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gabrielniy:
The motive is relative to the terrorist group. My stance is, give Islamic states intellectual freedom, then we'll begin to see the eradication of terrorism.

I get surprised most times when people attribute poverty, unemployment, and other similar drawbacks to be the root cause of terrorism even though this view has been repeatedly contradicted.
A little research will attest to the fact that a whole lot of IS members are well educated and even enlightened. Ahmad Said Sheikh, for instance, who orchestrated the abduction and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, hailed from an affluent family, and studied at the renowned London School of Economics. Mohamed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 attacks, was a successful architect. The underwear bomber Umar Abdulmutallab is also well read and from an affluent family.
My brother, no amount of poverty and illiteracy can make a man blow up himself and other people.
The motive behind terrorism is the same for all Islamic group and until civilised people are bold enough to address this motive; the world will continue to be under the siege of Islamic terrorism

gabrielniy:
Al taq what? Have you ever wondered how these terrorists lay their hands on weapons? Where do they get the funds? Look around you, terrorism was not fully blown like this years back. It's not ignorance, rather objective examination at how the world arrived at this point. The Islamic states are easy to prey on because they have low intellectual freedom, most can't think. Why has terrorism remained in the Northern part of Nigeria, yet not in the south? It all boils down to power struggle and personal interest. Mind you, I'm not in support of terrorism.

You have valid points: symptoms of terrorism. Have you ever asked yourself the motive behind terrorism?

BrightEye:
Laddies beware, never die a virgin. Seriously there are terrorists up there, waiting for you.

Simply sarcastic I guess... Islam didn't promise Muslims human virgins in al jannah; Islam promised Muslim men extra terrestrial virgins called Houri.
Question: if gender is defined by body peculiarities and the body will decay here on earth; are there male and female in heaven?

gabrielniy:
I disagree that the problem is Islam. Terrorism is the opposite reaction to the foundation some western countries laid. Some people are benefiting from terrorism financially, those sect will never let it be eradicated. Terrorism is executed on the platform of Islam, but Islam is not the source.

What's the motive behind your comment? Willful ignorance or simply al taqiya?

madridguy:
This is a very sad situation. Many bad elements are just there to tarnish the good name of Islam. Let live and let others live as there is no compulsion in ISLAM.

Islam prohibits terrorism. Islam prohibits a Muslim from attacking innocent people.

Also, Islam does not support terrorism under any circumstances. Terrorism goes against every principle in Islam. If a Muslim engages in terrorism, he is not following Islam. He may be wrongly using the name of Islam for political or financial gain.

Same perfect line by any perfect Muslim. Al taqiya (Islamic sanctioned lies and denial) at work here. Only the gullible believes your line

The thief comes only to steal, to kill, and to destroy (Islam's main goal) but Jesus came to give life in abundance

Let him first disband his Hisbah religious police meddling in people's affairs in Kano. No civilised city uses religious police. Sanusi should stop being an hypocrite

Its an open secret that El-Rufai is one of the closest ally to Buhari beside Mamman Daura. In fact, he was so close to Buhari that at the inception of this administration, El-Rufai was acting like a Vice President.

According to insiders, El-Rufai's loyalty was simply for Buhari to endorse him as the next president in order for him to enjoy the vote of Buhari's cult-like followership especially in the north.

Many people believed Buhari will never make it back from his recent leave in London. There were reports of several secret meetings especially in the North on different strategies to adopt in the event of Buhari's demise. During this period, El-Rufai might have lobbied to be presented as Osinbajo's vice so he could have upper hand contesting in 2019 since Osinbajo is not power hungry and might not contest.

This move by El-Rufai might have angered Buhari and Buhari might be planning a major blow on El-Rufai.

The letter is simply a smart move by El-Rufai to later claim victim. Methinks he secretly nursed the ambition to become VP while Buhari was away thinking the President will not make it back. Now that Buhari is back and El-Rufai sensing that Buhari might attack him, he resulted to writing the letter so that in the event of Buhari attacking him, people will think it's because of the letter thereby painting Buhari black and turning El-Rufai to an hero.

In summary, it's all about 2019

Like I said in a previous post, the letter is simply a smart move by El-Rufai to later claim victim.

Methinks he secretly nursed the ambition to become VP while Buhari was away thinking the President will not make it back. Now that Buhari is back and El-Rufai sensing that Buhari might attack him, he resulted to writing the letter so that in the event of Buhari attacking him, people will think it's because of the letter thereby painting Buhari black and turning El-Rufai to an hero.

This is simply a smart move by El-Rufai to later claim victim. Methinks he secretly nursed the ambition to become VP while Buhari was away thinking the President will not make it back. Now that Buhari is back and El-Rufai sensing that Buhari might attack him, he resulted to writing the letter so that in the event of Buhari attacking him, people will think it's because of the letter thereby painting Buhari black and turning El-Rufai to an hero. Politicians sha...

EazyMoh:
Lol not today dude. Am not in a debate mood, so do whatever makes you happy. You are responsible for your actions, and so am I. Nobody died for my sins and definitely I ain't suffering for anybody's least of all you.
So go ahead and never be a Muslim.

Debate mood now activated?

Kudos should be given to the sixth Senate for preventing constitutional crisis like what happened during Yar'Adua era.

Flashback...

The Senate, on Wednesday, voted to alter the provisions of section 145 and 190 of the 1999 constitution.

The amendments make it compulsory for a president or a governor to transmit a letter to the leadership of the National Assembly or House of Assembly respectively to enable the vice president or deputy governor act “whenever the president is proceeding on vacation or is unable to discharge the function of his office.”

The bill also empowers the National Assembly or state legislators to pass a resolution, empowering the vice president or deputy governor to act on behalf of the president or governor if there is a failure to transmit such letter within 14 days of his departure.

The bill is sponsored by the Deputy Senate President, Ike Ekweremadu, and supported by members of the senate Committee on Constitution Review.
The idea to alter the two sections proposed for amendment came up as a result of the inability of the lawmakers to constitutionally get the president to transmit a letter when he was absent. This led the Senate to adopt a creative resolution, empowering Vice President Goodluck Jonathan to act pending the return of President Yar’Adua.

The House of Representatives has already considered a similar bill, seeking to amend the same sections. While the Representatives are contemplating a 21-day grace period for the president or governor to be away on vacation without transmitting his powers, the senate voted in favour of 14 days grace period.

The differences will, however, be harmonised by a joint committee of the senate and House before the bill is passed down to the state Houses of Assembly for consideration.

Speedy passage

The bill was first read by the senate on 17 February. The following day, the senate started the second reading debate on the bill. After three days of debate, when nearly all senators contributed, on Wednesday, the bill passed its second reading.

It was immediately committed to the committee of the whole senate. There, the senate considered the provisions of the amendment bill, clause by clause, after which slight amendments were made on the original proposal.

The bill was then put to vote and senators stood in turns to vote a “yes” or “no” for or against the alterations. Out of the 109 senators, 17 senators were absent from the sitting and 89 senators voted “yes” to amend the first part of the bill.

Two senators, Yale Mallam Kaka (ANPP Borno State) and Garba Yakubu Lado (PDP Katsina State) voted against the alterations.

Source: https://www.nairaland.com/403974/constitution-ammended-presidents-governors-must

policy12:
Y 10list? My only reason I can't be a Muslim is nothing but eternity.

You're right bro... The key to eternal life is Jesus Christ

EazyMoh:
Lol not today dude. Am not in a debate mood, so do whatever makes you happy. You are responsible for your actions, and so am I. Nobody died for my sins and definitely I ain't suffering for anybody's least of all you.
So go ahead and never be a Muslim.

Am not surprised though cos I know how you guys roll when the truth about islam is put to light

EazyMoh:
Wow only ten?

Am still expecting you to comment on each of the points

Who knows this song?
Momodu ki ns'Olorun Eniyan bi awa ni
Momodu ki ns'Olorun Eniyan bi awa ni
S'agbekerele Jesu S'agbekerele Jesu S'agbekerele Jesu Oluwa
Momodu ki ns'Olorun Eniyan bi awa ni

EazyMoh:
Wow only ten?

You're the only Muslim that the comment is related to my post so far
Yes 10... Let's start with the 10 above

1. Treating women like commodities – Muslim men have right to divorce their wives at any time. Muslims can change any of their four wives like cloth at any time. This makes them to have little or no regard for women as they treat women like commodities. The highest divorce rate in Nigeria is within Muslim dominated city of Kano
2. Islam permits Muslims to keep slaves – especially women as sex slaves. The Quran actually devotes more verses to making sure that Muslim men know they can keep women as sex slaves than it does to telling them to pray five times a day.
3. Islam encourages Muslims to tell lies for the purpose of protecting their religion – Al Taqiyah. Muslims use Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy non-Muslim countries. The bible made us to understand that the true God is truth but the devil is the father of all liars
4. The god of Islam, Allah cannot fight for himself – he needed Muslims to fight on his behalf.
5. Islam is the only religion that operates like cult group – they formally death threatens anyone that intends to leave the religion. Islam operates apostasy law
6. Islam is the only religion that uses captured loot, sex, and a gluttonous paradise as incentives to Muslims who engage in war
7. Islam is the only religion that fights every other religion and also fights itself – Example is Sunni and Shiites’ consistent fight. In fact, Fatima, Muhammad's favorite daughter, survived the early years among the non-Muslims at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died. She even had miscarriage after having her ribs broken by the man who became the second caliph Umar. The same Umar killed the first convert to Islam Sa'd ibn Ubadah.
8. In the last ten years, more than 18000 deadly terror attacks have been carried out explicitly in the name of Islam. No week passes without an Islamic terror attack in the world
9. Muslims cannot talk about their religion without mentioning Christianity or Judaism. Whereas, other religion can talk without mentioning Islam
10. Islam denied the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ

Oonirisa didn't use this entourage at the last Silverbird award night... In fact, Atiku shook his hands during the program. Why displaying this 'majesty' in a camp dedicated to the King of Kings?

Please take good care of your mum

Tytylion:
This niccur is just an attention seeker,how old were u when EME signed u,so when did u suffer that much.Jadanu

So EME signed him when he was in primary & secondary school sleeping in a shopping complex with his mum. Ode

The grace of God on Baba Adeboye can't be compared with fura

God will perfect the health of PMB

koma1:
Op compare it with pictures like this

otondo comparing edited studio work with phone-captured picture

[quote author=lalasticlala post=54109744]Grace and one student known as pastor samuel .......


...... Ya-Allah save us in d hands of evils.[/i]

A closer look at these two sentences showed the lecturer's attempt to add religious colouration to the entire episode.

A better story next time pls

Farmerforlife:
To rephrase your statement, I take it to mean that you have no logical points that would work as an argument. You see, this is why I do not often engage Christians in debate. They are very much trained to doublethink... one standard of interpretation for themselves, another for others. Also, they are too hate-filled to be able to reson objectively when it comes to opposing arguments against their cherished beliefs.

But thank you for your time, anyway.

Just go through what you wrote then you'll see why it's a waste of time reasoning with you logically

Farmerforlife:
Those who resort to insults usually have no logical standing to rely upon. Search yourself.

There's no point reasoning with you logically based on your antecedent

Farmerforlife:
Please try to make your points coherently and concisely. There is no merit in bringing up arguments from hither and yon. Open other threads for other arguments.

From what I can get there...

1. Your belief or otherwise in the Quran is not the issue here. I can equally tell you not to quote the Bible, which I believe is fabricated. You asked a question of Muslims, you may expect to be answered with the Quran. We Muslims believe that is the only authentic extant Divine scripture as of now. Any further digression into this will lead me to believe that you are deliberately trying to derail your own thread, which concerns the 'Divine' origin of the blood of Jesus.

2. Quite apart from the fact that all babies are faultless, the purity of Jesus is not in dispute with Muslims, we consider all prophets and messengers to be free of wilful sin, they cannot be otherwise, you are looking for an argument that does not exist. Jesus was merely favoured to be chosen as a prophet from his birth, and was therefore faultless from that moment. All other known prophets were called in their 40s. To us, Jesus was not faultless due to his virgin birth, but his earlier calling to prophethood. Yet all prophets erred unknowingly in different ways, and sought forgiveness for their errors. In Islam, we do not believe that being faultless or free from sin means a total perfection or inerrancy. No man is perfect, and Jesus was no exception. The attempt to make him perfect was merely to justify his alleged sacrifice. It is not our habit or our way to find fault with the prophets of Allah, but even your Bible attributes certain errors to Jesus (most of which we do not believe could be possible) like the sins of falsehood (John 7:6-10 among others), racism (Mark 7:1-23 among others), false promises (Luke 21:25-33 among others), anger (Matthew 23:17 among others), even the error of cursing an out-of-season fig tree unjustly. Yet, we do not highlight these when you seek to emphasize his supposed perfection because all prophets of Allah are honoured in our sight, and such topics are unseemly to us, so we leave the floor to you to abuse our prophet (ﷺ) because we cannot engage in such satanic mudslinging.

3. If your reference to his resistance to temptation was in general, then, as I stated earlier, all prophets and messengers of Allah must of necessity, be free of disobedience to Him. Jesus' resistance to temptation was therefore nothing special. Righteous people disobey satan on a daily basis, how much less a prophet who was protected from wilful disobedience and sin by Allah Himself?

The point remains that...

1. There is nothing to show that Jesus was in any way perfect, or that his blood was so. In fact no man is perfect, and Jesus was no exception.

2. Even if we accepted that he was, there is no substance to your premise that it was due to Divine sperm which resulted in his blood. Blood does not originate in sperm. DNA tests are made using saliva, not blood, and a baby may inherit the blood group/type of either his father or his mother, depending on which gene wins out, but his blood is all his own, originating in the embryo alongside the development of the embryonic blood vessels.

Ignorance is a disease. Willful denial is a more chronic disease

Ladies must be sure that their partner is seriously committed to the relationship before getting too excited.

Know how serious he proves to be before chasing other interested men away

You will be there playing one nonsense Miss Faithful while he is there playing Master Unfaithful, fooling around and flirting with other girls including his exes and He will come back and tell you he loves you with that same unfaithful tongue...

To the Guys...

How can you just stand at the door to a lady's heart - not going in and also preventing others from going in.

Guys should be matured. If you wanna get down with a lady, just let her know, if it is just sex you want, say it. If it is a fling you want, say it. If it is friendship you want, say it. If you want to marry her, say it..
Stop playing around with people's feelings cos you won't like it if someone do the same to your daughter or sister...

My ladies, once you smell unseriousness on your partner's part, please jump molue or fly out the window... Stop waiting to get dumped....widen your views and leave before you are left behind....
Enough of playing the Mumu...
Stop leaving a pretentious life of Miss Faithful and fall into the wrong hands of a chronic cheat....

Know your worth!!!
Know your value!!!

No man is doing you a favour by getting into a relationship with you.... You are complimenting each other....


It is very painful when a good girl gets treated badly by a random guy, it ruins things for other guys that want to treat her like a queen....

And for you guys, if you are looking for what to break, there are bottles, plates and other breakable things but a lady's heart is not one of them.....
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h. What about the great achievements of Islamic civilization through history?

Islamic achievements in the fields of art, literature, science, medicine, etc. in no way refute the fact that Islam is intrinsically violent. Roman and Greek civilizations produced many great achievements in these fields as well, but also cultivated powerful traditions of violence. While giving the world the brilliance of Virgil and Horace, Rome was also a home to gladiatorial combat, the slaughter of Christians, and, at times, rampant militarism.

Furthermore, the achievements of Islamic civilization are pretty modest given its 1300 year history when compared to Western, Hindu, or Confucian civilizations. Many Islamic achievements were in fact the result of non-Muslims living within the Islamic Empire or of recent converts to Islam. One of the greatest Islamic thinkers, Averroes, ran afoul of Islamic orthodoxy through his study of non-Islamic (Greek) philosophy and his preference for Western modes of thought. Once the dhimmi populations of the Empire dwindled toward the middle of the second millennium AD, Islam began its social and cultural “decline.”
Credit: Gregory M. Davis

g. Is it fair to paint all Islamic schools of thought as violent?

Islamic apologists often point out that Islam is not a monolith and that there are differences of opinion among the different Islamic schools of thought. That is true, but, while there are differences, there are also common elements. Just as Orthodox, Roman Catholic, and Protestant Christians differ on many aspects of Christianity, still they accept important common elements. So it is with Islam. One of the common elements to all Islamic schools of thought is jihad, understood as the obligation of the Ummah to conquer and subdue the world in the name of Allah and rule it under Sharia law. The four Sunni Madhhabs (schools of fiqh [Islamic religious jurisprudence]) — Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali — all agree that there is a collective obligation on Muslims to make war on the rest of the world. Furthermore, even the schools of thought outside Sunni orthodoxy, including Sufism and the Jafari (Shia) school, agree on the necessity of jihad. When it comes to matters of jihad, the different schools disagree on such questions as whether infidels must first be asked to convert to Islam before hostilities may begin (Osama bin Laden asked America to convert before Al-Qaeda’s attacks); how plunder should be distributed among victorious jihadists; whether a long-term Fabian strategy against dar al-harb is preferable to an all-out frontal attack; etc.