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jom28gy:
What are trying to say?

Haroun13:
And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic." (Qur'an 61:6)


Yet you Christians say that spirit refers to man in the bible.

Pick one, then we can start from there.


Alright. So, you have 3 beings occupying this position, and all three are coequal. This claim has been dismissed 1400 years ago.

Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any deity. [If there had been], then each deity would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him]. (Qur'an 23:91)

Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah, they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah, Lord of the Throne, above what they describe. (Qur'an 21:22)


So, you really think that there could be 3 beings, coequal and powerful, and the universe would be in this much peace and tranquillity? Think again.
Verily, of knowledge, Mankind has been given little.


Depends on what you mean by holy spirit. Allah let's us know that the holy spirit is Jibril (Peace be upon him). And Jibril and Muhammad are two very different beings.
But if you are talking about the Bible passage, refer to my question above, answer it, then we can start from there.


Right. The people of Yahweh. Lut (peace be upon him) who has been accused of incest for example. What a book the Bible is. You say have 3 coequal, all powerful gods, yet they could not prevent their messengers from faahishah (immoral acts). That's why the bible is full of false, unfounded accusations against the prophets of God.
But, no cause for alarm, all those lies have been corrected by God, in the Quran.

sapele914:
If you could speak french you will be a better person equipped for the real world,I believe you know the world is a global village. You must force the children to learn,they will not forget what they know,learning Arabic doesn't take away anything from a child in future he or she may have to leave Nigeria say go to the UAE for work or maybe leisure and his little knowledge of Arabic will come in handy and give him a comparative advantage,You probably haven't lived anywhere outside of Nigeria?to grab what I am trying to say,please learn to think out the box,the mind is a terrible thing to waste,the world is yours. Go and ask those private schools why they are teaching Chinese mandarin?and why Lagos state has added it to it's curriculum.

MrHowto:
It has been so in many universities since 2011, so go hang yourself.

sapele914:
For your information Arabic is the widely most spoke language in Africa followed by swahili so what is wrong in been bilingual?you are no different from a bigot in the core North telling his children not to learn to speak english,two very ignorant animals in human skin.

Haroun13:
If you follow the true teachings of Jesus (peace be upon him), it will lead you to Muhammad. But you do not follow his teachings. But let's assume you did, but ignored the part about the messenger coming after him (because he preached that), and hence, refused to follow the last and final messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him), then yes, you are wasting your time.

Haroun13:
All the messengers preached the Oneness of God, all the messengers submitted in totality to God, in other words, they professed Islam (submission to the will of God), and Jesus (peace be upon him) was no different.

Haroun13:
Just like I said, all messengers preached the Oneness of God. That was the basic message. Though some other things would be different, depending on the time and place of the messenger, but the basic message of the Oneness of God was the same.
For one to say he has submitted to God, means to obey God in all respects. God sent Jesus (peace be upon him), Jesus proclaimed the coming of another messenger from God. Meaning that the moment the new messenger came, belief in him was and is a must. If you don't, then obviously, you have disbelieved in the statement of Jesus (peace be upon him) concerning the coming of a new messenger. In that case, would you still be following the teachings of Jesus in truth? I doubt that would be possible since you just ignored a major thing he has said.
It's like saying that the even though a new President has be sworn in, the former president is whom you would follow, as the present one. It makes no sense. (This is just a similitude on a much lower scale)

Haroun13:
I'm truly amazed at this statement, truly. A person who worships 3 gods, saying that they are one, even though I have never seen where 1+1+1 adds up to one, says that a person who acknowledges only one God, worships him alone not even through his messenger, is idolatrous? Please, be reasonable. Your statement makes no sense.
You can never understand the workings of God by using human standard. Muslims argument has always been that God does not have a wife, so he cannot have a son. Jesus existed before Mary, even before Abraham. He only came in human form to the world through Mary - whose DNA is Jesus carrying?

Another meaningless passage.


All messengers were unique and lived exemplary lives. If you want to know what true trials are, look at the life of Prophet Ayyub (Job) (peace be upon him), the trials he went through. Though, I don't know what lies have been fabricated against him in the bible, since the bible is fond of that, like the lies fabricated against Lut (Lot) or Dawud (David) and other great prophets of God.
Or look at the life of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Haroun13:
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain. (Qur'an 4:157)

deepwater:
Seun, please explain, why the Muslim folks do not have to swear
"I believe that there no god/God but JEHOVAH."
"I believe that JESUS CHRIST OS THE ONLY SON OF God."
‘’ הוא לא כאן הוא עלה''

Before commenting on Christian thread, Christian folks can I get a 1000(signatures) likes for this petition to be fully implemented, this is completely not acceptable and we cannot afford to keep quiet on this any longer.



IYKE926, if you open a thread for this, it would never reach FP, they would ban you for life, the way they wil hit the gravel self your system / phone casing go crack. Mind you my moniker would be banned very soon, for asking for this in the first place. This guys are bad like that, so if you do not see me soonest, just know i have paid the price for asking It is a cult in here bro. Just look below, three (3) comments hidden already

yasolan:
Seriously, u typed a study carried out in Malaysia and u want me to believe that, come on be gentlemanly and show me the study

WORDWORLD:
Lagostokd, How are you doing? I hope you are doing fine and your family too. I wish you all good health, happiness and abundance of provisions to sustain life, make you live happily.

There is this quote in the Glorious Quran which commands as thus:

"O ye who believe! If a WICKED PERSON comes to you with any NEWS, ascertain the TRUTH, lest ye HARM people unwittingly, and there afterwards become full of repentence for what ye have done" Q 49 : 6.
 



A study carried out by who in Malaysia?



Some halal cerifiers such as which certifiers?



Who are these Muslims?



"the same Imams" should mean that these "SAME IMAMS" have got identity. WHO ARE THESE IMAMS?

yasolan:
No proof no back up no links, tell me another thing please

ColdHeatt:
O P, may God judge you based on the validity or otherwise of this claim of yours; and your intention.

koladebrainiac:
wow so those guys just getting richer while stamping foods

IbnSultaan:
Cooked up islamophobia story no facts n source
Mynd44 pls do the right thing against the hate inspired topic

PapaBrowne:
But it's not only Halal that operates certification systems. What about Kosher certifications? What about Globalgap? What about Fairtrade?
I think it's all fair!

Haroun13:
I hope you are posting for knowledge.
Lying is a sin, and a major one, no doubt. But Allah, (Glorified and Exalted) is He has created us, and knows us better than we know ourselves, and has made life easy for us. In a matter of life and death, something which is normally prohibited could be made permissible.
For example, when fasting, deliberately eating food during the fasting hours is a grave sin. But if it becomes a matter of life and death, then one can eat, and it is no sin on him.


When you make claims so bold, you have to back them with authentic Islamic sources, but you will never find authentic sources to back the above claim, and I will have to declare you a liar. No offence though.


I'm really marvelled at the posts some people write. How can one use deceit to spread truth? This makes no sense.


Like I said, provide your proofs, and you can never provide them, so, I declare you a liar.


Do as above.


So you've also been conned into believing that makr means to deceive. That's too bad.
But just so you know, makr or the inflected forms, means to plan, or plot, that is why there is makr as sayy (evil plot, or plan), as in Quran 35:43. And there is the plan of Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He).
Finally, I don't think you have read the verses you quoted, but just the usual copy and paste. Because if you did, perhaps you would see the truth. And while reading, you should check for notable translators like Pickthall or Saheeh International, Yusuf Ali, etc.

nototribalist:
If they like let them bomb and kill themselves there, we don't care. When they started by killing my Christain brothers their people were applauding them. But look at how God works

fiizznation:
Lad, Buhari a fulani man granted the interview to a BBC hausa broadcasting network. What is the wrong action there? You want him to speak English to them or what?

joe4real12:
Nice one!
Vs 20 to 23 summarizes it all.