₦airaland Forum

iamoyindamola:
Congratulations bros
May you never lack what you will need to take care of mother and baby

Amen bro.

If you dey around and less busy next week monday, you fit show for my side.

DeadPresidents:
Congratulations, Larride. MUFC ladies new potential signee just dropped

This is good news

You gerrit. Either football or Tennis. 😎

Thank you.

BlueRayDick:
But does the constitution grant this speaker this same privilege or he’s acting out of line ?

It doesn't. The NASS do as they like. While the Executive must present its budget for the NASS for screening and approval, the NASS own budget is a secret.

Those guys in NASS are rogues.

My wife give birth to a bouncing baby girl this afternoon. Both mother and child are in good health. 😎

BlueRayDick:
Na the political rascality wey we dey talk about be this .

I think most of these guys see themselves as equal with the executive; so they believe if the president can have several Special Assistants what stops them in the legislature from doing the same ?

I’m sure the appointments is more of compensating people that worked for him. For example the two media guys he appointed from punch and independent newspapers were most likely writing articles in their respective media organizations extolling his virtues while he was vying for the speakership seat

Funny enough the President is having just 20 SA and he must forward the number ot SA he intends to appoint to the NASS for approval. The constitution grant the President the privilege between 15 - 30.

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raudmeuter

I messaged izzou on whatsapp this morning, his messages are not delivering.

He's probably just taking some offline time or maybe baba don japa.

Hopefully he's okay wherever he is.

afrodoc:
[b]

That is called putting the puci on a pedestal. Some men build the puci up to be this great Greek goddess called Pussilia and worship it.

I've responded to your mail.

aieromon:
Nov 2022


https://saharareporters.com/2022/11/25/nigerian-court-dismisses-pdp-suit-seeking-disqualify-apc-gov-candidate-cross-river-otu

Feb 2023


https://punchng.com/acourt-dismisses-cross-river-pdp-gov-candidates-suit/

Thank you for this.

afrodoc:
Gawd have mercy!

How can you be lazy in writing your country’s constitution?

Here it is. 😂

afrodoc:
It can apply to NASS because members of NASS can be Nigerians by naturalisation and not only by birth.

That section 182 has no place in the constitution. Section 177 has already stated clearly that only Nigerians by birth can be governor so why is another section (Section 182) which has nothing to do with Nigerians by birth doing there again?

That section will never apply to anyone.

Do you know what, let’s do an exercise.
Can you give me a scenario whereby a candidate is Nigerian by birth thereby fulfilling Section 177 but is also not Nigerian by birth and acquires dual citizenship thereby susceptible to disqualification under Section 182?

Or better yet, simply describe to me any scenario in which Section 182 disqualifies anybody.

Na copy and paste them do.

Infact if you check for President, you will see the exact same provision listed there. 😂

afrodoc:
NASS is different. Nigerians by naturalisation are allowed to be in NASS.

Only Nigerians by birth can be governors. If Section 28 does not have to do with Nigerians by birth what is it doing in the governors criteria?

That's what I'm saying, That section 66(1) a, it's practically the same thing with section 182 (a) with exact wordings.

See the screenshot.

afrodoc:
Once again the people who framed this constitution need to be flogged. Meanwhile the lawyer explaining it just went round and round without clarifying specific issues. No wonder our lawyers frame confusing laws.

The only explanation I can give for the “Subject to Section 28” in that Section 182 which will exonerate Hamzat is that they meant people who are not Nigerians by birth can’t acquire dual citizenship elsewhere and still run for governor.
If that’s the case then Section 182 is superfluous as Section 177 already states that only citizens by birth can be governors.

On face value Section 182 states that if you voluntarily acquire the citizenship of another country you can’t run for governor.

Prior rulings have to viewed in context because while the constitution requires governors and presidents to be Nigerian by birth, it allows representatives just to be Nigerian (by birth or otherwise).

Even for NASS, there is same provision as section 182. In Section 66(1), it says the same thing that section 182 says.

Spy360:
No.

Section 28(1) talks about the forfeiture of citizenship for a person not born in Nigeria or of Nigerian parentage. Key word forfeiture.

Section 182 talks about someone who voluntarily swears allegiance to another country.

Hamzat may not have forfeited his Nigerian citizenship but he has voluntarily sworn allegiance to another country of which he is not a citizen by birth.

There's a reason why that section 182 refer back to section 28 in the beginning of the sentence meaning the section 182 is not standing alone.

As a Nigerian by birth, you can hold dual citizenship whether voluntarily or citizenship by birth. You are eligible to stand for elective positions.

afrodoc:
Yeah it looks clear to me the more I read it.

Saraki was able to scale on that technicality of his UK citizenship not being voluntary.

If the courts are fair e be like say Hamzat’s stay will be a very brief one.

I doubt it doc.

The beginning of that section 182 says subject to Section 28.

Here is what section 28 (1) says:

"Subject to other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship of or nationality of a country, other that Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth."

Meaning you only lose your citizenship if you are not a citizen by birth then go ahead to acquire or retain another country citizenship.

Hamzat is a Nigerian by birth, he can hold dual citizenship and contest for elective office.

Spy360:
That of Saraki was no voluntarily. He was born in the US. This guy voluntarily took up another citizenship.

Pictures culled

Again, the only way for a Nigerian by Birth to renounce his citizenship is not by taking another country oath of allegiance. The process for renouncing the citizenship is laid out.

As long as he remains a Nigerian by Birth, the Case is dead on arrival. What you are posting is for someone that becomes a citizen by naturalization or registration. Not for citizen by birth. That's the reason that section is referring back to section 28 of the constitution.

iamoyindamola:
I just checked naija no get restrictions

Nawa

Your citizenship by birth is sovereign oo.

Spy360:
He is not losing his citizenship, he is losing his qualification to contest for deputy governor.

Saraki was Governor with dual citizenship, when he became Senate President and APC wanted to use it against him, here is the position of the Supreme Court.

iamoyindamola:
But he is not a Nigerian by birth

He is. His parent are Nigerians

afrodoc:
You are right. The only way a Nigerian by birth can lose his citizenship is if the president approves it. So as a Nigerian by birth the only way you can lose your citizenship is if you agree and the president agrees.

The question is can you be a dual citizen and still be a governor. The constitution seems to be muddled about it and it appears to me that you can’t, but it seems from precedence that is not the case.

You can hold elective position as long as you are Nigerian by birth even if you have dual citizenship. Example is Bukola Saraki who was born in the UK.

You only get disqualified if your Nigerian citizenship is by naturalization or registration.

DeadPresidents:
You can renounce your citizenship boss. Certain countries (like the Netherlands) have that as a prerequisite for Naturalization.

You’re right about the process being stressful (and mostly not a good idea) but it is possible

Yes it is possible but unless you actually go through the process, your citizenship stand even if you acquire another country citizenship.

afrodoc please see DM when you come online.

eph12:
That deal is not closing anytime soon.

My theory is that the Glazers want to intentionally fvck the club before they finally leave it. Probably for all the sticks and abuses they have received.

Na Ogun go kill them.

livelongprospa:
This Hamzat matter is abit confusing.
He informed INEC in 2018 or 2019 that he had sworn allegiance to the US.

Now my question is, is there anywhere in that process that means you have renounced your Nigerian citizenship especially by birth abi GRV just dey clutch at anything?

A Nigerian by birth can't lose its citizenship.

The process for a Nigerian by birth to lose its citizenship is long and tedious and it requires your application to be granted by the President of Nigeria.

Saraki has dual citizenship

I think Willie Obiano does also.

Moreover like you said, Hamzat clearly stated it in his INEC form that's he's a citizen of USA.

Roland17:
They are in rebuild mode so they need to shed those heavy contracts.

Well that's another way to look at it.

Hohenheim:
Lmao cp3 to the warriors

CP3 and Steph 😂

Roland17:
Celtics receive: Kristaps Porziņģis, 2023 & 2024 first-round pick

Grizzlies receive: Marcus Smart

Wizards receive: Tyus Jones, 2023 second-round pic

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1671733585865494529?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Looks like Brad Stevens learnt a thing or two from Danny Ainge about roster construction and piling picks

So Wizard are losing both Beal and Porzingis and getting Tyus Jones?

That GM should be shot on the blokos.

OasisX:


......my hatred for Alex Otti eh.

Give us Sanwo-Olu news today joor.

afrodoc:
Did you graduate from a private uni or public uni?

Please check your mail.

Olowunl01:
That's a NO. So in essence the 7:1 difference is the cost of the risk you faced going to state Uni.

If Unilag is upgraded to have similar conducive environment & risk of strike eliminated - be rest assured that it would command more premium than Redeemers.

That can never be the 7:1 difference when those who attended public uni can still compete with those that attended private uni even with the strike.

raumdeuter:
If you finish Covenant first class and you don't go teach yourself for NIIT, New Horizons or humble for Yaba with everyone including public Uni students you go take that first class go lecture ni

Unilag guys are hot cake

raumdeuter:
And what was the difference in quality of both graduates after 4yrs? was it ratio 7:1?

Of course not.

We did a debate with both school department fielding their best, judges were from Unilorin and we won them twice.