₦airaland Forum

meforyou1:
what am i complaining about exactly? Chief layi said what we have been telling you since. That lagos is not yorubaland. Lagos is not part of SW. Landgrabber

The same Chief Layi Ajayi-Bembe whose family members have come out to say he is not Benin, as their ancestry is purely Awori? Is it that one?

Malawian:
unlike you, i don't deny my identity.

Neither do I.

meforyou1:
cry cry. Lagos is not yorubaland. Simple

Yeah...we know. Just like Onitsha, Nsukka, Asaba etc., are not part of Igbo land.

meforyou1:
haba. It is now historical tie? U had been denying the truth since morning. Now it is a historical tie. Before tomorrow, u will coin another expression

OK, continue carrying Benin-Yoruba issue on your head like gala. Benin and Yoruba people have mutual respect for each other and know how to settle their issues away from prying eyes. They both share a common ancestor called Oranmiyan. But you know what? Some things are way beyond your grade level. Restrict yourself to resolving the Benin claims over Onitsha. Even the Igala have more rights over Asaba, Nsukka, Ossomala etc., in Ala Igbo. Isn't that sad?

Gotze1:
Is that Arabic language, or you dey fear?

It is Igbo. I told you before that Malawian is Igbo.

Alexis11:
This kind of claim will only fuel tribal tensions in Lagos..... Yorubas may be more hostile now.

My advice for anyone is not to say this among the Yorubas in Lagos.

And I want the Binis reading this to take caution; The Igbos that are supporting you on the thread hate you guys as much as they hate the Yorubas.
#Peace out!

The Edo people know the Igbo inside out. Don't worry, they will not be deceived by the efforts of the Igbo internet warriors to use their propaganda, to cause divisions on this board. Benin-Yoruba relations is centuries old. The IPOB Jews cannot change that overnight, no matter how hard they try... Ovbi'edo are smarter than that!

TheKingIsHere:
The real lagosians know the truth, the annoying thing is that people from osogbo and Ibadan are the ones twisting the story to suit them

Lagos belongs to the Benin Kingdom that's why the obi of Lagos goes to pay homage to the oba of Benin

Yeah, the same way the Obi of Onitsha goes to pay homage to the Oba of Benin, and the same way the Asagba of Asaba and the Igwes of Nsukka and Ossomala go to pay homage to the Atta of Igala. It makes sense!

baysol:
You know what you thieving ipob co-conspirators talking is cheap. Come to lagos if you really have balls and take over lagos. Very soon you peoples that are staying now will be shown the door and don't think there will be chief Awolowo to save your sorry asses and no 20 pounds again oh you children of beggers. Lobatan.

Oga, you are backing up the wrong tree and making false accusations. Check my antecedents on NL. I am definitely not IPOB, in any shape, fashion or form. Kindly be guided. I have absolutely nothing in common with them.

TheKingIsHere:
Where are those clowns I was telling them that the real owners of Lagos state are the binis.

You can't hide the truth neither can you alter history that is known to all.

What does an Igbo boy like you know about Benin-Yoruba historical ties??

Malawian:
You beat us black and blue? Yet gallant Biafran warriors were in edo for weeks, even had a garrison in Auchi while prevailing on the Oba to let the Beni fight for their liberation? The people you beat black and blue will have nobody to hold down edo state, it was only when the bini won't fight that we retreated to Onitsha, and you know what happened to your 3rd marine commandos in Onitsha. Like i said, read your history and forget tales by moonlight

Chukwu biko!! Which kind of tales by moonlight are these??

meforyou1:
the town at stake is lagos. Where an authentic lagos indigene has told you that core lagosians are binis. When the issue of onitsha arises on a different thread, we will go there and trash it out.
For now, dont be so bitter about the truth. Its better that you have learnt the truth today from a very educated lagosian, and not those illiterate root drinkers that keep lying to you people every night about fake histories that dont exist.

Oga, nobody is bitter. The same questions being raised about Lagos also apply to Onitsha. Zik made it clear that the real owners of Onitsha are the Benin people....why are you now complaining??

Omofunaab2:
Eti-osa is Edge of the Lagoon or Lake .. ... Sea is "Agbami" in Yoruba while ocean is "okun"

Oh OK....thanks.

tibaonnet:
Against the background of claims by former Works Minister, Chief Femi Okunnu, that he shares a Benin ancestry, former Minister of State for Defence and Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) stalwart in Lagos State, Senator Musiliu Obanikoro wednesday denied that his progenitor was from Bini kingdom of Edo State.

Obanikoro, a strong aspirant on the platform for the PDP in the last governorship election in Lagos State said rather than the mis-information, the legendary Obanikoro family in Lagos hails from Awori – Idiluwo-Ile in Ojo local government area of the state.

The renowned Lagos politician was caretaker committee chairman, Surulere local government, substantive chairman, Lagos Island local government, former commissioner and senator that represented Lagos Central senatorial district and later he was appointed as minister during the president Goodluck Jonathan era.

Koro, as he is usually called, contended that the narratives of the eminent Lagosian, Chief Okunnu, that Obanikoro was from Benin was wrong, stressing that while he personally had a link with Benin through his paternal great grand mother, who he said hailed from Eletu-Odibo family, “the first Obanikoro was not from Benin.”

According to him, “Chief Okunnu said Obanikoro was from Benin. We are not from Benin. We are from Aworiland. We are from Idiluwo-Ile in Ojo local government. Personally, I have Bini blood. My paternal great grand mother was from Eletu-Odibo family. Eletu-Odibo came with the Oba of Benin to Lagos. She was the daughter of Ogabi Eletu-Odibo. But, Obanikoro was not a Bini man. He was an Awori.”

He noted that “the descendants of Chief Obanikoro, among who are Ajayi-Bembe, Ogunlana Arewa, Abisawo Otun, Osadeko, Aregbe and Oyerokun, were conscious of their Awori root.”

I beg, let me laugh very well first. I thought Ajayi-Bembe said he was a descendant of Obanikoro of Benin. But Musiliu Obanikoro another direct descendant of the same Obanikoro has just rubbished his claims! Lagosians are funny, I swear!!

Where is Fisifunkododada to settle this matter??

meforyou1:
why do you yoruba people just like lying. Im tired of reading numerous warped, bold-faced lies yorubas are dishing out on this thread. Calling the lies history. Lagos is a bini enclave. All these lies u are saying awori, ijebu, egba etc are all lies. A british-educated esale eko man, whose father owned lagos lands, has told you he is bini. Take it like that because it is true.

The same way an American educated politician like Zik told your people that Onitsha is owned by the Bini people? OK, sorry - I should have allowed the Yoruba people to give you an answer to that one.

Malawian:
Naaaa,forget the tales by moonlight your fathers told you, after killing thousands of you and fearing that the Yoruba people we came to liberate could become "monuments" like those stones in Ore,we simple retreated to Edo state,and when their people also refused to fight for their freedom, we helped them declare a republic of Benin before returning to the east to roast your 3rd marine commandos in onitsha crossing. Read your history. At least, the Edos had a republic for at least 24 hours, but what republic has the Yoruba ever had in their god forsaken slavish lifetime?

You helped the Edo people fight for which freedom? Did the Edo people ever tell your folks that they were in bondage? Guy, take time o! Stop this revisionism. It was greed, expansionist tendencies and clueless strategies that took your soldiers to the old Midwest region during the war. And they were soundly dealt with by the Edo underground civilian resistance. By the time the federal forces appeared, your soldiers fled in different directions like headless chickens!

FisifunKododada:
And the Oba of Bini knows nothing about this generation of Yorubas - so we are even. If he chooses to be silent then he is giving tacit support. O pari!

You really should be addressing your concerns to Akiolu. If the Oba of Benin chooses to be silent, why can't Akiolu speak? Isn't Lagos his territory any more?

Xda59:
Based on the evidences provided so far, Lagos belongs to bini. What does etiosa, eko, oshodi etc mean in yoruba?

No, Lagos island or Isale-eko is part of Yoruba land. No respectable Bini person will drag Lagos with them, except the attention seekers.

Frederick2017:
Oga Etiosa is my name and I'm a bini. We know we own Lagos but we just watching the funny land grabbers. When time comes to claim it, na one day e go take us to collect our land. It is a very easy something

Oga, your name cannot be Etiosa. It is likely to be Etinosa. And Etinosa means "Strength of God”, in Bini language. It is totally different from Eti-osa, which is a Yoruba word.

Xda59:
Based on the evidences provided so far, Lagos belongs to bini. What does etiosa, eko, oshodi etc mean in yoruba?

Well, you have to ask the Yoruba people, because these words all have meanings in their language. I am told that Eti-osa means "by the sea " or "by the river."

macof:
Eti osa - edge of the lagoon

Eko - means camp in bini, also means farm in Awori

Oshodi - a Yoruba corruption of a Tapa name. The founder of Oshodi was a Tapa man from modern Niger state, he was a slave but grew through the ranks

Sorry, I didn't realise you had even responded to his question earlier...

FisifunKododada:
Who is preaching? I am stating my position very clearly. If the Oba likes let him not respond. As long as he is okay with the consequence of his silence. Which is he will continue to gba bode from now till he stands up and act like a man. As for the head chief of Idumota - he is limited ONLY to Idumota and he knows it.

You clearly know nothing about how the Oba of Benin responds to issues. Direct your concerns to Akiolu. Why are you so silent about him? Isn't it his territory that is being disputed by one of his subjects??

Xda59:
Akiolu has said it in the past that Lagos is Bini. No questions asked.

And Akiolu's claims have been refuted by more knowledgeable people using historical evidence.

poseidon12:
Interesting piece of history. I didn't know that Lagos belongs to the Bini and not Yoruba. The Bini need to be more assertive in reclaiming what is there own.

Yes, the Bini definitely need to be more assertive in laying claim to Onitsha, while the Igala need to be assertive in laying claim to Asaba, Nsukka, and Ossomala in the SE.

FisifunKododada:
If the Oba did not send them the Oba should say so. If a thief is caught and he claims to be from your household - would you not disown the thief if you you believe he is not from your household? The Oba silence is tacit support and until he steps up and do the needful he will continue to gba bode as far as I am concerned!

Did Ajayi-Bembe ever say that the Omo n'Oba sent him to make any claims on his behalf? Oga, you can preach this sermon till tomorrow, but the Oba of Benin will not respond. Like I said before, the person who should be responding to Ajayi-Bembe's claims is Akiolu. It is his territory that is in contention.

FisifunKododada:
Then you are not giving the Oba good advice. If someone goes to the market and uses your name to buy credit without your permission. Then your silence is seen as accepting the debt.

Where did he use the Oba of Benin's name to buy stuff on credit? When did the Omo n'Oba send Ajayi-Bembe to buy anything without making payment? And who even offered to accept the debt? You have used a wrong analogy, sir. Oga, the person who should be responding to Ajayi-Bembe's claims is Akiolu. It is his territory that is in contention. Period.

Malawian:
Odi nma.

Bodi aye?

Ofure. But what gives you the idea that I am a Bini person? Am not. I have friends and extended relatives who got married to indigenes from that side.

Malawian:
Ogwucha kwa ka oha m n'onu, oburu na unu nwere isi abuo, jee ruo ihe obuna na those One mile corridor ka anyi fu. Oo na oburo zi kwa ala ofe nwannu ka o bu? Hope you are okay now.

Igbo man. Kedu?

sophoccles:
That old man is not ashamed to spew a lot of rubbish on national media just because of politics. He is an "agba-iya". He said he is Bini, he said he is also Awori.But even a child knows that Awori & Bini are never the same.

Nobody is disputing the fact that the Bini once maintained a military garrison on Lagos Island at the height of their powers, which is why the "Eleko" did not and should not wear a crown, he was never from any royal lineage, he was simply a war chief, a garrison commander.

If Bini actually settled Lagos the so called indigenes (including the garrulous Chief Ajayi-Bembe) would actually bear Bini names. But they eventually withdrew, leaving the land for the aboriginal inhabitants - the Awori. It's the same way you see relics of Roman civilization/administration in parts of Britain today. Do we now say the Romans own Britain?

Epic response!!

FisifunKododada:
Both the local champion of Idumota and Mr. 'I am a bini man' Ajayi are both dropping the Oba's name. Let the Oba call them to order. Otherwise his silence is an indication of tacit support.

Oba of Benin's silence is not an indication of tacit support. It is an indication that he does not wish to drawn into meaningless issues, or get involved in any petty, needless controversy. He did not send Ajayi-Bembe on any errand. The man is on his own.

Let the Oba of Lagos Rilwan Babatunde Osuolale Aremu Akiolu rebuff all claims to his territory, by setting the records straight. After all, Ajayi-Bembe is his subject, living within his domain on Lagos island, not so?

FisifunKododada:
He is claiming Lagos for Bini that is more than enough - so if Oba believes in his mission he should keep quiet. If he does not he should speak up. If some Yoruba man goes to any non-Yoruba part of Nigeria and claims the land for Yorubas, we Yorubas including our traditional rulers will disown him without hesitation. Nigeria's survival depends on the peaceful coexistence of the various tribes. That is why ipob pigs are working over time to sow inter-tribal discord everywhere. If the Oba does not stand up now and act like a grown up - he will gba bo de in no time.

Guy, the Oba of Benin will never put his mouth into any petty controversy. The fact still stands that Ajayi-Bembe was not sent on that nefarious errand by the Oba of Benin.

When he made his controversial statements, he never claimed to be speaking on behalf of the Omo n'Oba, or as an emissary of the Oba. He has not even been acclaimed or recognised as a Benin indigene, by the Ovb'iedo. He just calls himself one - this is a person that is well-known to be a Lagosian Yoruba indigene, o! The person who should call him to order is the Oba of Lagos, since he is making claims about his own domain, right within his territory!!

Please face the IPOB-Igbo clowns squarely, and give them a befitting response. Whatever Ajayi-Bembe thinks or says is his own business, and not the headache of the Oba of Benin!

Leez:
begging for freedom??
more like d ewedu goblins begging for unity

Thanks for letting us know you are an ewedu goblin...

FisifunKododada:
Then if his claims are false and the Oba did not send him on an assignment then the Oba should disown him. If someone goes to the market and stills in your name - will you not disown the vagabond? Or you will say its a petty issue and allow your name to be dragged through the proverbial mud?

Did Ajayi-Bembe tell you he was speaking on behalf of the Oba?? Or does he bear the same surname as the Oba, or was he made one of the Benin chiefs or courtiers in the Oba's palace?

FisifunKododada:
Read the article again. Mr. Ajayi clearly identifies as Bini. And as for the ipob pigs from ala-potorpotor Yorubas will remain their eternal nightmares

Go back to my previous submissions. Anybody can call himself what he likes. It does not mean that is his actual identity. Let him tell everyone where his Igiogbe is located in Benin!