₦airaland Forum

Damolux01:
Watched it at Marina for #500 last week

BoboYekini:
30 minutes from Lagos by road? Are you sure about this? And directions would be very nice, thank you.

matrixme:
By speed boat. Please take note

Qelvin:
Laudate pray tell, would the outcome had been any different if the Midwest invasion didn't take place, the killing of Biafrans began right from the moment Nigeria fired the first shots, are you overlooking the fact that Nigeria struck first and the response they got was expectedly reactionary as well as desperate...my guy all logic is thrown out the window the moment you invade my territory with guns and armoured tanks, a desperate man will do anything to survive, morality unfortunately has no grandstanding in war, didn't Awolowo teach you that when he starved millions of innocent children to death? figure it out..I'm out of here

Eshinwaju:
Rantings of a juvenile mind...

Ngozi123:
. Seek help. I can't say that I know much about obsessive tendencies but I do know that it can lead to a terrible fate. I would ignore you if I thought that you were just a troll but I really think that you need help. As a concerned citizen, I feel that it's my duty to help you .

Here you go: http://m.wikihow.com/Get-over-an-Obsession

1bkaye:
@laudate
E kushe o

Note: People who claim you're obsessed with them have spent almost the last 20 minutes discussing you amongst themselves, it is well

Ngozi123:
LMAO . I've honestly tried to ignore him but every time I open an Igbo-related thread, he is there spewing his nonsense or supporting other anti-Igbo rhetorics. He really disgusted me on that Issele-uku thread thread. That was absolutely abhorrent.

Ngozi123:
I really want to know the root of his hatred for Igbos. I wonder... did an Igbo woman break his heart? Did an Igbo man scam him out of his wealth? Did an Igbo classmate of his outdo him in all of his subjects at school? It must have been something terrible .

Ngozi123:
He will not listen to you no matter how much you try to explain to him or how good your argument is. You're making sense but his hatred for Igbo people is so great that it severely clouds his judgment. That's how he earned his nickname .

Qelvin:
You can make light of it as much as you want, could care less cause your attempt at satire is weak...you believe what makes more sense to you, I believe mine from my own side of the divide...at the end we both reinforce the reasons why Nigeria was never supposed to be one, and that's the ideology every right thinking Igbo paddles right now.

Qelvin:
Let's put it this way, maybe you can see the bigger picture better...I'm on my own, you come to my house and attack me relentlessly, I decided to strike back...but seeing that you are stronger than me, I decide to hurt you back where you are most vulnerable, maybe attacking your loved one and taking hostage of what you love most, you now have what is mine and I have what is yours, remember I didn't start the trouble...you did, so how I'm I in the wrong for taking a stand to save my own head?

pazienza:
[s]Thank you!
go f.v.c.k yourself you Slag, you stay on every thread a damn topic that relates to Biafra or Igbos, if that's not some sickening obsession then I don't know what else it is, your archives are there to see...you are active on about 60% of post about Igbos, you need to die quick already,oniranu.


60%? That's the understatement of the century.
"It" is 100% on all Igbo related threads and even any Igbo related post. [/s]

Qelvin:
I don't believe anything I read online, all the witnesses dead or alive should have written their own versions of what happened, I have learned not to take anything that relates to the unfortunate events of 1966-1970 with a mole of seriousness because it was a time hampered by too much anger, pain, and hatred...anybody could have recounted anything that made more sense to him in order to either led credence to his/her ethnic sentiments or just told plainly outright lies on account of speculation, even the American history is riddled with half truths, and we know they are far more efficient in preserving their own history, you should ask yourself why the civil war and the coup isn't taught in details in Nigerian schools, it should be a syllabus of its own.

Qelvin:
In war every form of neutrality is truncated the moment you invade another man's land, the Midwest was there for the taking because it was still deemed federal territory at the time, if Nigeria didn't fire the first shot at Ogoja and Garkem, there won't have been a Midwest invasion.
Ore saw no significant battle, Biafran troops stalled there thanks to Victor Banjo who was the worst possible character to even lead an attack of such importance in the first place, it's like asking a demon to lead an army of demons to upstage the devil at the gate of hell...very absurd...in war time and momentum are very important, we lost that by failing to press our advantage and paid the price by buying the Federal side enough time to reorganize and counter attack a force led by a clueless traitor.

We lost the Midwest but Muritala paid the price at Onitsha and Abagana, losing almost 10,000 troops just to capture a town is a pyrrhic way to console yourself as a commanders, little wonder he quit and returned to Lagos a defeated man.

Qelvin:
All conjectures and no valid link to facts, your crime detective skill is riddled with speculative nonsense, educative guessing does you no favors on these one. I hope you do know that the attitude of the Northerners at the time was one of revenge, the counter coup was swift and brutal in its execution, I have no doubt the Northerners did not leave any room for your debriefing logic when all the soldiers involved in the coup were arrested...as far as the average Northern soldier was concerned at the time, if you were Igbo..you had to die regardless of whether you were a witness to the executions or not, this is just a very likely scenario if you were to picture the tense atmosphere at the time...and you have to also take into consideration that the Northern.grudge against Ironsi was that he failed to bring the coup leaders and participants to justice; thus we can infer that no official form of confessions were even released after the coup, so I just debunked your witness No 2 theory with a more plausible fact.

As for your witness # 1 theory, I'm glad you admitted women like to talk, and don't forget also EXAGGERATE, a heart broken woman recounting her tales of woe will surely add one or two scenes to her own story that will make sense to her, it's more of a instinctive wave of self preservation that deductive truth, so we can agree to disagree that in part, whatever conversations played out on the night of the arrest of Lt Col Pam was a likely scenario from a rational point...just the same way a good writer can come up with an imaginative dialogue to fit a scene and piece it together as a good plot for a story, hardly any detective skill involved in it.

Qelvin:
I said provide a veritable source that all that conversation happened, isn't that the bone of contention? I know some yorubas are smart but stop disgracing your people here.

Qelvin:
go f.v.c.k yourself you Slag, you stay on every thread a damn topic that relates to Biafra or Igbos, if that's not some sickening obsession then I don't know what else it is, your archives are there to see...you are active on about 60% of post about Igbos, you need to die quick already,oniranu.

Talking about citing sources, I'm I supposed to waste my time countering what I have already read from several books already? If I were to cite a quote from Madiebo's book in lieu with my standpoint, what difference will that make to someone like you who insist Alabi Isama's own version has to be right because he was at the war theatre in Ore, Madiebo's book still remains a best seller, go to Amazon and read the thrilling reviews about it from people all over the world, for a book that was written in the late 80's, it's sustains a lot of respect due to the in depth and balanced account of what happened on both sides, you have no right to tell me to get off your mentions, it'd best you stfu and don't respond at all.

Qelvin:
Crime detection does not draw it's conclusion on mere speculation, the facts on ground have to be existential, concrete, and on basis of rationality proven to be true. On that note what we read here reeks of someone's statement or report that wasn't even present in all the scenarios that played out,who was present to witness all these events and conversations right from the time Pam's house was besieged and when he was been taken away?

ImperialYoruba:
In that case there's nothing special about Biafra fighting and holding Nigeria and its allies back for three years. That was not an Ibo feat of brevity and strength,since there were Yorubas in the Biafran force. Your Biafran effort was backboned by Yoruba inclusion.

Qelvin:
Lol...the oyinbos followed the Federal forces, like they weren't any foreign correspondent in Biafra too abi?

Qelvin:
Element of surprise can make a small force look spartan buddy...for the umpteenth time the Midwest region was a buffer zone and was deemed neural at the outbreak of hostility, so it's very much conceivable that the region would have fallen very easily to the Biafrans cause it wasn't heavily defended, the Biafrans SURPRISED the Federal side as they didn't even see the invasion coming, and when it did the Nigerian side were pretty much in hasty retreat, the Biafrans had the momentum of surprise,speed, and a degree of good Intel...that was why the entire Midwest crumbled like a pack of wild cards when the Biafrans struck, and such was the success of the invasion that the Biafrans covered far more ground that they even anticipated, Ore was there for the taking but Banjo decided for reasons best known to him halt the attack, even your Alabi Isama reported that Biafrans had the momentum, cause he was with the Biafrans before he defected to the Nigerian side... the Nigerian troops were surely not better trained, Igbos always had the best crop of military officers right from the post independence era to ...Nigerian soldiers were simply better equipped, and that alone didn't save them when they were wiped out by a small Biafran force at the botched river crossing attempt at Asaba three times.

raumdeuter:
I've lost touch with the former politics crew like desola, ektbear ilekeidi etc

Me I don lie low. I just came out to politics for the remembrance of my great uncle

Aare Samuel Ladoke Akintola

Ajalagbe omo kuloodo Yaagbo yaaju omo kara who was killed by those Ibo soldiers led by nwobosi

Dedetwo:
When you cannot get the rank of a soldier correctly in a narrative, how on earth can you understand the intrigues of the military parlance in the goofy and feel-happy story? No wonder Nigeria seems to head down the valley.

logica:
Guy, leave these historically deficient entities to be "doubting". The full transcript of the investigation done by the Nigerian Police is freely available on the Internet.

Qelvin:
I have a far better knowledge of the Nigerian civil war that you do, all you did was post a except( could be just some article for academic research and discourse of someone who never witnessed the actual war, but culled his/her version from what was presented as fact by a pro Nigerian standpoint) I have your time today, please debunk my so called lies with actual accounts of both Nigerian and Biafran officers and men who saw action and wrote their own versions of the war.

Qelvin:
Why should I take Alabi Isama's own version of the Midwest invasion over the quite intriguing version of Achuzia's own in his book titled "Requiem Biafra?" I have cross checked various journals, articles, and correspondents from various creditable databases online and even books written by principal actors on both sides as well more balanced versions from prolific foreign observers who covered the war,and the versions all differ in one form or another...so I'll definitely not settle just so easily for anything I just happen to read from either the Nigerian or Biafran side to be honest.

Dedetwo:
Because you do not know both Iluyomade have not made rank of Major during the Ore debacle.

Dedetwo:
This crap you seemed to adore as gospel is a total junk without semblance to military doctrine. It is a shame that caliber of soldier such as Lt Col James Pam had to hurry to phone to tell Gen. Ironsi that coup is underway simply because of sounds of gun shots in his compound. Unless he, Lt Col James Pam, had prior knowledge of the coup, the act of calling his GOC to inform that there is coup because a gun shot was heard in his compound amounts to court-martial offence.

Dedetwo:
R. Iluyomade was not a Major during the debacle and could not have commanded a platoon. The man's actual involvement was as a courier. There were two Iluyomade and were brothers.

tunlex01:
I will give you just one - Skye! Find out others

livgenius:
They can get housing for example. It differs by bank
I live with parents. But how much will rent be? Max 300k for a one bedroom in a good area. I don't work in treasury. I earn a very good salary

tunlex01:
Always say what you know. Some banks in this country currently pay within 250k - 300k to entry level. Get your facts right. That your bank does not pay doesn't mean other banks don't.

HAH:
Banking this days is nothing but suffer head because of what I hear from former colleagues, I worked in a bank for 12 years and left in 2013 as a DM and a branch manager. I started in 2001 with a monthly salary of about 100k, we were the highest paying bank then my friends in NNPC and CBN were collecting 20k monthly I was like a king but this days even ordinary civil defence recruits get paid like bankers.

Along the line as I get promoted every two years till 2009 when crises started and we were stagnated, no promotion, the pressure getting higher, the abuse from mgt getting high too,my friends in NNPC, civil service and others that were seeing me as big boy then are now ogas, they get more than my salary of about 650k from allowances for travels and salaries, I realised I have reached my limit in the bank and not everyone will be MD or AGM so I decided to take a bold step and resigned to start business, Men it wasn't easy to be an entrepreneur, I started regretting my action but cannot go back so I continued to struggle. With resilience success came

Today am 41 and I have about 20 permanent employees and 25_30 casual workers and I cannot even accept being an AGM. Banking is a good step for a young graduate to start from because they will train you well and the work will teach you resilience, also because I worked in bank with good pay I have all the basic thing of life like houses.

My advice to aspiring bankers is please enter with an exit plan unless you are related to owners of the bank or can kiss arse well.

Nothing is as good as hard work

livgenius:
Someone is talking to u from his personal experience and you call him a liar

Take home every month may be lower but when you add allowances, upfront payments, profit sharing, u will definitely make up to that a month.

And bank pass bank. The bank I work at, entry level make up to 200k a month on average

Also some banks have better graduate programmes than others. Graduate programme employees make at least 400k per month on average where I work. I have only worked for 1.5 years and I have savings over N5m

Sometimes remember that you don't know everything and try to listen when people try to educate you