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vicenzo:
[s]Not really. I pity your poor hateful soul.
I mean, it must suck coming from an insignificant ethnic group you can't even be proud of in a faceless forum like this. And having to live off Igbophobia by gate crashing on every Igbo related thread or post.

I pity you. It must be a miserable situation for you.I understand why the Igbo are the main target of your hate.[/s]

vicenzo:
[s] Then why are you on every Igbo related thread on Nairaland, when you know you are full of Sh.it and can't deal with your shit when thrown back at you?[/s]

vicenzo:
[s]No one needs to insult you. Your mere existence is an insult to nature and rationality.
How else do we explain the obsession of a non Igbo with every Igbo related topic, especially when we consider the fact that this obsession is hate driven?
Guy, you are due for a serious mental examination.

You won't die, if you stay off Igbo matters[/s].

vicenzo:
[s]Says, the lost soul that sleeps on Igbo matter 24-7, arguing irrationally on things he knows next to nothing about.
And when his folly becomes too glaring, resorts to posting denatured Igbophobic arguments made by equally ignorant fellows like him that had already been debunked.
You are a boring person, how exactly can you live with yourself?[/s]

carmag:
if you look at it this way, Igbo biz man residing in the North birthed his kids over there so at the maturity of those kids they must have understood both Igbo and housa languages by the time they arrive Lagos either for schooling or buz purposes they would as well grasp some Yoruba language

this picture is just one scenario out of many...so he may be right

vicenzo:
[s]Dude. There is nothing good about a slimy, Igbophobic fellow like you, who crawls around the internet looking for Igbo related topics to spread his Igbophobia[/s].

vicenzo:
[s]So says the bitter being that spend all his online time on Igbo and Igbo related matter. A person from an insignificant useless ethnic group, so insignificant that he is ashamed of identifying with her, even on internet[/s].

vicenzo:
[s]Dude, even fools might be mistaken for wise ones, if they keep silent.
If only you can spare this forum of your folly by keeping silent, it will be a better place[/s].

vicenzo:
[s]What contributions exactly? Who demanded for your opinion here?
You are neither Igbo nor Anioma. So, what's your business here?[/s]

vicenzo:
[s]Don't waste your time on him.
Dude is suffering from a serious rabid case of Igbophobia.

He is always on every Igbo related thread, offering Igbophobic opinions and supporting those with opinions he deems anti Igbo.
Leave him for me, I know how to handle him. He is a regular customer of mine.[/s]

vicenzo:
[s]Lol, is that the only aka you know? You probably see Pazienza in every Igbo that torments your slimy arse.

Stay off Igbo/ Igboid related topics, and vicenzo wouldn't have to quote you.
Keep dragging your slimy self into all Igbo related threads like a vulture to a carcass, and be sure to get tormented as usual.[/s]

PabloAfricanus:
Sorry but do you ever have an opinion of your own?
I appreciate your wanting to contribute but do so intelligently.
I could be completely wrong in all the points I raised and I am very aware of that.
But I notice you are either cheer leading or side quoting and never for ONCE contributing any original thought, opinion, narrative or perspective to any Igbo themed thread.
Can we hear your own narrative? We are all here to learn you know.

vicenzo:
Nothing interesting about those heap of gabbage.
Just figments of the writer's imagination with no credible sources to back it up.
Nri history are well documented. For someone to even suggest that Nri is of Igala origin is the highest height of ignorance.

carmag:
you forgot that northern migrants usually settles at a specific location where only housa language are spoken and those of them who must hawk their businesses or a job as a gate man struggles to speak pigeon English not to talk of language of their host

Cire80:
I tell you all they do is give direct Igbo translation to any words they come across. It's so funny. This people will argue with you about your age. Very strange people

UtuhMbadike1:
....Our ancestors who share boundaries with Otolo taught us that Anaedo has within it more varying tribes than could be counted in one hand’s fingers. Even Otolo, Anaedo’s leading clan/quarter, isn’t a homogeneous group and this is no secret. I won’t call names because you know this to be true as an Anaedo person.

Instead I will give here three mentions with which you may not agree—but that wouldn’t matter:

1.
Anaedo is linked to Ndoni/Ukwuani/Ndokwa (around the Aboh area) via a certain figure known as Mmaku and without whom the Nnewi monarch may not exist today. It is believed that Anaedo’s use of “Obi” is directly connected to this forebear. This isn’t debatable as it’s the widely accepted version of Anaedo history.

But what you are now left to grapple with is the truism that there were three waves of migration which formed the population of the Ukwuani people. The first wave originated from the Benin Kingdom, and in Ukwuani today they are called Umu-akashiada, Ebedei, and Akarai. Then there were the second set, arriving Ukwuani from Nri, and they include Umu-obarauchi, Ndoni, Onya, and Adawai. And then the final wave, involving Benin conquerors and they include the Aboh, Amai, Umukwata, and Ogbe-ani in Utagba-uno clan. The Igala are also present among the Ukwuani. How, now, can you factually and successfully debate the genealogy/ethnicity of Nnewi’s foremost forebear—in the person of Mmaku? He hails from an ethnically diverse place, and could be anything from full Igbo to full Edo/Bini, to multi-ethnic, etc. We may never know. Aboh, his place of origin, is primarily inhabited by the Ukwuani group of Bini/Edo origin. Now put that in your back pocket, and let’s fill up the two remaining front ones.

2.
There exists in Anaedo the Orsu and the Isu—the truly aboriginal Igbo—and let me explain how: Anaedo, as mentioned, was formed by folks arriving from varying directions and origins. There are even those from Agbaja in Abatete—and although the Abatete peoples agree that their town was founded by Okolie Otie, the man’s origin remains disputed. So you will perhaps also have to figure that out: the true origin of Okolie Otie, which to me sounds Aro.

What I am more interested in, is proving to you the existence of both the aboriginal Orsu and Isu in Anaedo—both genealogically and culturally. True intellectuals see beyond the superficial State lines. They get atop their emotions and look facts/markers in the eye. They subdue their Anambra nationalism in search of the truth, because State lines are recent and only skin-deep. The Orsu presence in Anaedo is represented by the “Awor-Oraifite people”. All “Awors”—Awor-Oraifite, Awor-Omamma, Awor-Ezinifite—are unmistakably linked to their ancient Orsu homeland of the aboriginal Igbo—i.e. the Awor-Idemili area of Imo-Anambra border.

With the Orsu presence explained, here’s Anaedo’s Isu connection: the Isu are arguably the largest Igbo tribe and, along with the Orsu and the Orlu peoples, forms the preeminent aboriginal Igbo group.

Sometime in the past, the following remark was shared here on Nairaland, by an Anaedo indigene who, in my unbiased view, has been consistently intellectual with his submissions:

“The Isu founder of Igbouzo was called Umejei, which is interesting, because I noticed in John Alutu’s book that a lot of people in Nnewi’s early history had the prefix ‘Ume’ in their names. I’m convinced it was some of the aboriginal Isu elements in Uruagu who fled during the Isu dispersal that crossed the Niger and founded Igbouzo. I’m not sure mainstream historians have fully recognized this yet, because they keep writing that Umejei came from the Isu north of Awka (Isu-Anaocha).” Link: https://www.nairaland.com/1829096/brief-history-nnewi/4

Now, whether Anaedo’s “Isu” is “indigenous” to Anaedo or migrated from Isu-Anaocha or from some other Isu base, to my Utuh-Mbadike ancestors and elders there’s only one Isu tribe in Igbo-land, and they are found predominantly in Anambra, Imo, and Abia States. As mentioned, they are the largest of all aboriginal Igbo tribes, and are related to the Orsu and Orlu peoples. All three tribes (Orsu/Isu/Orlu) have their ancient/original homeland in the same Orlu axis of Imo State.

3.
To conclude:

Recall that “Ume” prefix mention by our Anaedo intellectual? Keep it in mind, and then read the following Wikipedia excerpt:

“Azia [town in Ihiala LGA] was named after the founder and the father of the inhabitants of the town, Azia Alamatugiugele who according to oral history lived about 1,400 years ago (470-585 A.D). Azia, Orsumoghu, Mbosi and Isseke were the sons of Osunano by his first wife who is the owner of the portion of land that cuts across Azia and Orsumoghu known as Ama-Lolo (Lolo’s farm land). Osunano in turn is a son of Igbonano. Before the coming of the white men, there was a region of the Igbo country called Igbonano. A conglomeration of clans, Igbonano was supposedly located in the area now occupied by some thirty autonomous communities from both Anambra and Imo states. These communities on the western axis of Anambra-Imo border area, till today still have many things in common e.g. similar names of idols ... a set of ozo title prefixes: Ezike, Dara, Duru, Dim, Ume, Ezeani, Ezeahia, Ezeloma and Okpara) etc.”

Lessons/cultural markers from the excerpt:

1) The “Ume” prefix in ancient Anaedo was a cultural feature shared by the Orsu (Azia is Orsu) and Orsu is related to Isu. But beyond the Orsu, the “Ume” prefix is equally commonly used in the entire Nnewi South LGA.
2) The Orsu also bear the prefix “Dim”, which we know is Ikemba Ojukwu’s choice affix (Dim Odumegwu Ojukwu). Another popular Dim in the region is “Dim Agwu-agwu of Ezinifite Nnewi South”.
3) The Nri claim that their Kingdom was founded 900AD, while the founder of the ancient Orsu town of Azia (Azia Alamatugiugele) is said to have lived before 600AD.

Finally:

When you realise that Anaedo, by some definitions, includes Ozubulu (or parts of Ozubulu), then you must equally take into account that parts of Ozubulu is inhabited by a clan originally from my own Utuh-Mbadike.

There you have it. Anaedo is large, and far from being a homogeneous land geneologically and culturally.

I probably won’t have more to share with you guys on this, since you aren't paying for my time.

asuustrike2009:
If the likes of MTN ,Airtel e.t.c can easily deduct your airtime without paying you back,they the disc dancers would do the same when prepaid metres are fully in use across the federation.

UtuhMbadike1:
I am greatly surprised by the content of this discussion. It’s proof of how drastically the beliefs of the Internet world could differ from the realities of the true world.

I am Nnewi South and here’s our general view of the Nri: My ancestors believe the Nri to be immigrants. We have an unmistakable view of them as being “other”—i.e. “foreign/non-Igbo”. This isn’t contestable among my folk, but is not at all negative because in Amichi, my maternal hometown, the Nri are invited to “cleanse” the land, most likely from nearby Oraeri although there is also an Nri community within Amichi itself, called “Umu-nri Ebenasa Amichi” and located right on the borders between Amichi, Osumenyi and my hometown of Utuh-Mbadike. Amichi has its centrally located Eke market, but the Umu-nri Ebenasa has its own small Nkwo market—and there’s a palpable element of isolation to that Nkwo market (full name: Nkwo-Agu Umu-nri Ebenasa Amichi).

The story is much deeper than that, but I know for a fact, as a man who grew up next to his ancestors, that the Nri are secondary settlers wherever they are found in Igbo-land. Amichi is an Okotu town related to Osumenyi, Ogbodi, the Adazis, etc. and I am a “nwadiana” there, hence I am aware that my mother’s people, as the true owners of the land, are not excited to intermarry with folks of Umu-nri Ebenasa of the same Amichi.

There’s consensus across the entire southern Anambra—from Nnewi through Aguata and ending in Orumba—that the Nri were “foreign-turned-Igbo”. I am therefore surprised to discover here proof of what seems a serious attempt to elevate the Nri at the expense of their own hosts. And when a debater linked to Nri says here that “Igbo and Igala are related” I hope he or she is aware that 1) it isn’t a flattering declaration to any Igbo person who is clear about his aboriginal identity; and 2) the right statement would be that “the Nri and Igala are related/cousins”.

To the Igbo of the interior, the Igala is as foreign as the Bini. The Idoma is in fact closer. And as you can imagine, we are just as clear as to the origin of the Onitsha folks and of most of their neighbouring towns. Ancestors, modest and tolerant, may not speak frequently of these heavy matters to the young, until a need arises—for example on the question of marrying into a certain clan; that is when they sit you down and tell you who is who in your State, local government, and town.

I will just end by pointing out that if wealth accumulation and modesty—the two hallmarks of the true Igbo entity—are held up as the ultimate standard for counting or discounting one as “purely aboriginal Igbo”, then the Nri and most of their northern Anambra hosts are clearly immigrants from a different ethnicity/nation. The two wealth belts of the Igbo—1) from Anaocha/Idemmili down to Nnewi and ending right around Orlu; 2) the Bende area of Abia State—clearly leave out much of the Nri and their northern Anambra hosts. While they evidently are among the noisiest and the least modest of Igbo folks.

There is no doubt that the propagators of Nri flag-waving are driven by their own painful and in fact understandable need for a permanent resolution to their dilemma of “an Igala origin vs. Igbo identity”. For, the Igbo who are certain of their aboriginal status are usually the most modest and confident of us.

Mind you: my ancestors of Nnewi area do not detest the Nri one bit. But they see them for who they are: migrants from Igala-land who are now fully integrated into the Igbo culture. And we of southern Anambra aren’t alone in making this distinction; I recently spent a few days among the clan of the Eziowelle, Abba, Nimo and Abagana (Njikoka and Idemmili North) and these folks strongly distance themselves from their neighbouring Nri, implying rather diplomatically that “the Nri are from somewhere else”.

Globally, a culture’s purest people are found in the geographical center. As such, one who cares of the purest Igbo kind—least tainted by an outside influence—should look, for example, at an eastern Orsu person. It gets no purer than that, and there are also other such examples.

And lastly: Dear Abagworo/Abagoro, you are in the right and have my full backing, bro! Keep making that noble case. It takes a dangerous degree of bias to look at the attire of the traditional rulers of Nri and their northern Anambra host communities, and not realise by instinct that they are akin to those used by the non-Igbo cultures across the waters or, more importantly, to fail to notice the blatantly immodest and un-Igbo loudness of those regalia. https://www.nairaland.com/1491012/ndigbo-integrated-eri-nri-brother/4#51394578

YoungRichRuler:
The way people used to talk about Covenant University makes me think Deeper Life will come up with 100K as School fees per session.

OP Abeg go and research other private universities owned by churches maybe you will see anyone within 100k range

As if Universities abroad are cheap to attend

opal4real:
Most likely is the catch there and I subscribe to this due to the igbos migrant style.
A typical igbo will grow in Aba, serves his uncle in Benin then another cousin in Kaduna and finally settles into imports in Lagos. They strive to master d local language although their heavy accent always give them away.

Nnaabros:
Infact, you're most likely to find people who can speak virtually the three major languages in Nigeria ONLY AMONG THE IGBOS

DecemberIV:
Very valid points, but in the age of social media, if you allow bigots, ignorant and unexposed people to tell your story, it will only reinforce the negative stereotype.

One who has never been in the North would just swallow the skewed statements on this thread and assume the North is entirely one backward region lacking modernity and development

KevinDein:
So let's get this straight, you believe the pics posted by the earlier poster is of little relevance and should probably be ignored but the WORDS being typed by your fingers hold more water and should be taken seriously because you are who again?

ImperialYoruba:
Im 83yrs old actually. The OP is even older than i am judging from the material in the opening thread.

Nnaabros:
Infact, you're most likely to find people who can speak virtually the three major languages in Nigeria ONLY AMONG THE IGBOS

Ishilove:
It's not Igbo o. It is Igbira and my native name is Oiza

Trendirabingi:
[s]but ur stewpid ass wouldnt stop qouting....lol...such a slowpoke,.. ...after 2 days, u wake up, rub ur spittle infested face, pick ur nose and start qouting again...i can only imagine how dumb u are....u must be really hurt...tufia...quote me again....lolz..mtchew ..u will..maybe in four more time..mumu[/s]

5 unfulfilled promises of the Jan 15, 1966 coup | Six years after Nigeria became a sovereign nation, the country witnessed an unprecedented development, which still haunts it 50 years after.Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu, a major in the army, led some of his colleagues to overthrow a civilian government.

The casualties of that coup d’etat, which occurred on January 15, 1966, are Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, then the prime minister; Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto; Samuel Akintola, the premier of the Western Region; Festus Okotie-Eboh, the finance minister, among others.

Between then and now, Nigeria has witnessed at least eight coups and the objectives given for carrying out the coups were not achieved, meaning that military intervention is far from the solution that a country needs. In this piece, we highlight five lessons that Nigeria ought to have learnt from the first ever putsch.

COUPS DON’T WIPE CORRUPTION OUT

In his speech, Nzeogwu said the aim of the revolutionary council was to establish “a strong united and prosperous nation, free from corruption and internal strife”.

But corruption is far from over in Nigeria despite the efforts of successive governments to rid the country of the menace. The problem of corruption is even getting deeper, proving that the the coup failed to achieve what was perhaps its most important aim.

THE ENEMIES ARE STILL WITH US

“Our enemies are the political profiteers, the swindlers, the men in high and low places that seek bribes and demand 10 percent; those that seek to keep the country divided permanently so that they can remain in office as ministers or VIPs at least, the tribalists, the nepotists, those that make the country look big for nothing before international circles, those that have corrupted our society and put the Nigerian political calendar back by their words and deeds,” Nzeogwu said.

The coup leader made it clear that through the support and assistance of Nigerians, the so-called enemies would be defeated. One look at the polity and all these people are still intact.

THE NIGERIAN SHAME STILL A REALITY?

Whether the coup plotters meant it or not, one of their objectives was to make the citizens “no more ashamed to say that they are Nigerians”.

But the present realities show otherwise. Fifty years after that event, many Nigerians do not have patriotic spirit. While many countries which were at par with the country in the 60s have since joined global economies, Nigeria is still grappling with numerous challenges, leaving many with nothing but just associating with the country through identity. In any case, too many Nigerians are not proud of their nationality; not that they are unpatriotic, they’re just finding it hard to pinpoint how their country is serving them.

REFORMATION OF THE SOCIETY

As a measure to check immorality, the military regime of Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, which seized power after the coup, introduced death penalty to prevent excesses such as looting, arson, homosexuality, rape, embezzlement, bribery or corruption, obstruction of the revolution, sabotage, subversion”.

Has the maximum sentence restored orderliness into the country? Everyone has the answer!

OPPRESSION EVERYWHERE

“We are not promising anything miraculous or spectacular. But what we do promise every law-abiding citizen is freedom from fear and all forms of oppression,” Nzeogwu had said.

Like other promises, the short-lived regime could not liberate the people in the exact manner it promised, and signs of oppression, even by the military itself, remain commonplace.

The plotters of that coup hinged their action on marginalisation of their ethnic group. Incidentally, there is a renewed campaign against this same ‘marginalisation’, with attempt to resuscitate the Republic of Biafra.

Nigeria’s unravelling over the past decades has shown that coups are far from the solution to any of the country’s problems. Hard to say if Nigerians have learnt this lesson, but time will surely tell.

Copyright 2017 TheCable. _{Permission to use quotations from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to www.thecable.ng as the source.}https://www.thecable.ng/5-unfulfilled-promises-of-the-jan-15-1966-coup

Orikinla1:
Stop calling her his wife.
He has not paid her bride price.
She is just his trophy girlfriend and baby mama.

SLIDEwaxie:
e be like say dem use the name 'BUHARI' curse una.. e be like say the name no to stop to dey give u 'daymare'.

When ur bothers dey blow up gas pipes, una dey hail them...

Now, yeye set of people wey dey shout their praise come dey complain of hardship!

E no go better for any wailer wey complain!

But if the name still dey worry u, what are u waiting for? Pls help make this world a better place!

Wiseandtrue:
His former wife is inspiring him.

chimere66:
Fani Kayode and his pretty wife Precious today paid a visit to Ooni of Ife.Fani Kayode couldn't hide his excitement as he met Ooni.He said....
Source: http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2017/01/fani-kayode.html?m=1

Afam4eva:
Traditional rulers are really suffering wearing heavy clothes throughout the day in the name of royalty. How about wearing T-shirts and shorts once in a while.

solbil:
Yes, there is a Hausa quaters in Otukpo and i think MKD too, but they have them there as settlers, pure and simple! The Igbo presence in Benue is not different from the Igbo presence in Oyo, Ekiti, Sokoto and J'bourg, fact!

I still ask the same question again: WHAT LG IN BENUE ARE THE IGBO AND THE HAUSA INDEGENOUS TO? IF YOU CANNOT ANSWER IT, THEN SHAME UNTO YOU! YOU IPOBS NEED TO GROW SOME SORT OF SELF ESTEEM AND BECOME MORE CONFIDENT IN YOUR OWN SKIN AND IN YOUR OWN 41000sqkm. YOU DON'T HAVE TO OWN THIS WORLD TO BE A GREAT MAN, SO STOP CLAIMING WHATS NOT YOURS!!