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hammerF:
Doubting Thomas fighting us over Igala, u done hear am?

see:

Yes igala came from Nri but Nri forbade igala from paying homage to it...Nri was a spiritual empire not a physical that's why lasted so long for almost a thousand years.

Oh, you want to add Igala to your enclave now?? Hehehe... you chaps never cease to amuse me! Don't forget that almost 50% of Igalas are muslims, o!!

progress69:
As long as we remain a mono economy, we will keep suffering the consequences of that. I honestly wish oil prices can remain low for a long period of time, cos as soon as it starts picking up, the Government will shift focus on diversification again and concentrate in oil (easy cheap money). Reccession looks like a blessing in disguise to me, every one have been prudent in spending and havr stopped living the cosmetic lives we were living before now.

Is this what you call a solution? The high price of gas being faced by the manufacturers should continue, until you stop being a mono product economy? In which year will this happen? Kindly enlighten us.

You have been asked for a concrete solution to the problems that manufacturers are facing now, due to high gas prices... and you can only recycle the puerile kindergarten lines that govt appointees trot out, whenever this issue comes up! God dey!

progress69:
I don't have time for myopic wailers.

Dillars was alread 245 in the black market before the ineffectual buffon left office. Oil was still over $60 then. Oil dived to as low as $28 afterwards, u expect the naira to remain at 245 ur silly god left?

So what is the solution now? The current exchange rate has driven the price of gas upwards and the cost has become a burden for manufacturers. Kindly provide a solution to the impasse! Thank you!

Cire80:
I pity your teacher. You seem like a special needs student that requires special attention before you understand simple write up. Even after drawing your attention to 'some' and 'almost all' you still go back asking the same thing. do you think Ika is a single Kingdom that was founded the same time? I give up on you

Guy, you have tried your best to enlighten so many people. E don do. Let us hope one day, they will see the truth.

Trunquejnr:
This kind of lies makes it necessary for history to be integrated into the school curriculum

I agree with you!! 100%!

Daremee:
This is why Nnewi people have bad reputation of worshipping money. Money is the god of that town. Willie Obiano should have known better and reject this abomination of a Greek gift all in the name of an empty chieftaincy title

You don't say?!! Wow!

moonstar01:
THE WORST OF IT ALL IS THAT HE TOOK OJUKWU's TITLE. OJUKWU S CHIEFTAINCY TITLES ARE IKEMBA NNEWI AND ALSO DIKE ORA MMA OF IGBOLAND. MONEY CAN REALLY LEAD PEOPLE TO DO IRRATIONAL THINGS. WERE THESE TRADITIONAL RULERS DRUNK OR HYPNOTISED. NA WAA O FOR THESE PEOPLE

Interesting!!

FineWine94:
You are blessed.

What exactly makes him blessed? His asinine epistle that mimics a response? Did you read through all the posts on this thread before you came to this conclusion?

gerg:
The problem with these Igbo people is that they formulate a theory without any evidence to back up their theory and stick to it. See Igbos that don't know their history trying to rewrite other people's history. it's quite funny.

Edo is from Igbo, original inhabitants of Ife were Igbos so Igbos were the aborigines of Ife. Igalla was founded by an Nri prince and Attah of Igalla still pay homage to Nri. These are the kind of theories I hear from Igbo people and it really sound funny. I'm not surprised when you people also write stuff about Anioma. This is what you people know how to do best

I don talk say I no go laugh again today, but...hehehe...that comment you made which has been highlighted in bold type, is too hilarious for words!!

hammerF:
Not u again.. doubting Thomas.

lol!

gigabyte13:
The Nigerian jews will not like this your "act of apostle" story ooooo.

How on earth did I miss this topic??! How??! Better gist don waka pass, o!!

Olabestonic001:
You're suffering from a delusion of grandeur as well as persecutory delusion. Nnamdi Kanu has destroyed most of you guys reasoning by his Conspiracy Theories that has tampered with your persecution delusions.
Yoruba's loves Igbo.

ROFLMAO!!

hammerF:
ORIGIN OF THE IGBOS...

When next you quote, include the url link or source, so we can all read & verify!

Freedom2016:
It will be well with Awolowo that murdered 3 million children cold blooded abi. Hypocrisy of Afonja!

Nah... the only hypocrite here is you. Obviously, the Afonjas have cooked something for you to eat, which is why you are calling everyone you come across - an Afonja. Tell those who bewitched you and sent you on this errand, that it can never be well with them, for turning you into a pathetic, mentally challenged m0r0n.

Cire80:
When I say Edoid I mean they used to have more Edo words and sentences than they do now. Years back, the Ika word for door was Ekue but now everyone is saying Uzor. Road used to be Uwaya, everyone is also saying Uzor. chair used to be Aga(rah), bench agbara and short stool was ekete now everyone use Oche generally for chair. I can give you hundred lists of Edo words that was in use in Ika area about 2 or 3 decades ago that have totally been replaced with Igbo words. It's only the elders that still use some of these words.

The Ika we speak today is not the Ika of 5 decades ago. The Ika spoken in those period are highly mixed with Edo and Igbo word but now all the Edo words are fast disappearing

Cire80, you have really done justice to the topic, and I admire the painstaking way you have put your points across. You have made it clear, that the Anioma or Ika Igbo, have a dual heritage (i.e. Bini/Edo and Igbo). You have also highlighted the influence of the Bini on these Anioma towns. Don't worry, you have done your bit. Let us hope people will be able to free their minds, and understand your valid submissions.

I just wish Uchechukwu Ogah will behave like Dangote - focus on his company/commercial business, and turn himself into an international oil player, with financial clout. Politics will drain him, and may cost him the little goodwill he has in the public space.

Those with financial power, usually have the eyes and ears of those in government. Let him leave politics and concentrate on building a financial empire. He should take a leaf from Tony Elumelu, Jim Ovia etc.

hammerF:
Not a few but alot, i just mentioned few as examples.

The bolded is ur assignment. Go and research Bini customs, culture, traditional music, burial practices, marriage rites and try to find similarities with Anioma and Ondo Yorubas.

That should be a breeze, becos wat u dont find in Anioma, u will find in Ondo and of course some will be recent adaptation.

So na dis angle you wan bring inside here? E no go work. You are the one making assertions that Bini people have Ika Igbo ancestry. He who asserts, must prove! So go and do the research and come back and post your findings or evidence here. We would review it and validate it, if it is found to be true. We are waiting!!

hammerF:
DOUBTING THOMAS! SOONER OR LATER U WILL BELIEVE.

NO EVIDENCE? BUT I PROVIDED U WITH ALOT OF CLUES.

WAT EVIDENCE DO U HAVE TO THE CONTRARY?

What evidence??! The similarity of a few words that run through the Bini and Igbo languages? That is still not solid evidence now. Like I asked you earlier, if truly the Bini had Ika Igbo ancestry, where is it reflected in the customs, culture, traditional music, burial practices, marriage rites etc.of the Binis? Am still waiting for the answer..!

Adminisher:
Please read this biography properly. There is nothing of Excellence here. She is an architect who attended Howard University. That is a shitty university.
The Cambridge result was not so good and her career in Shell was because of connection. She was promoted beyond her competence to Director because of some "international connections" not merit.

The major failure of this " lucky" woman and her dumb boss Goodluck was they stole, did not repair refineries, did not build any LNG, did not do Brass LNG, turned Nigeria into a full blown fuel importer, did not develop the Niger Delta, rigged elections and tried to influence INEC

Bros, I read the biography. But even if she got the job in Shell through connection, she would not have lasted there for long, if she was not competent to some degree. Multinational firms have some tough standards and internal guidelines. Anyway, the main reason I posted it here was to enlighten the clown that kept saying Diezani was Igbo, when in fact she hails from Bayelsa. The silly clown has refused to be educated, and still keeps assigning an Igbo origin to the woman. Na wa, o!

hammerF:
ITSEKIRI ARE NOT EDOID GROUP. THEY ARE ACTUALLY IJAW THAT ARE MIXED WITH YORUBA.

ISOKO ARE IJAW MIXED WITH URHOBO.

BINI ARE IKA IGBO [/b]MIXED WITH [b]YORUBA.

Biko, stop this your theory that Bini people are Ika Igbo, mixed with Yoruba. There is absolutely no evidence to support this claim of Ika Igbo ancestry, with regards to the Bini. Even among their kings, none of them has ever had an Igbo name. Daalu zi!

Freedom2016:
Because you are an Afonja and she hates you and your kind with passion just as PEJ...who also speaks Igbo, hates Afonjas with passion.

If Diezani or PEJ hates Afonjas, what the heck does that have to do with me? It is a free country. How far has their hate taken them? Who cares??! Even after making it clear that there are over 150 ethnic groups in Nigeria, you are still persisting in recycling this fallacy. If you do not provide evidence to show that Laudate is an Afonja, may it never be well with you in this lifetime and the next! Am waiting! Anuofia!

Freedom2016:
Keep fooling yourself. Tell her she is not Igbo and see...she Afonjas with passion.

You have read Diezani's life history, and you are still insisting she is Igbo? If she has a problem with Afonjas, what does that have to do with me? Your ignorance is legendary.

Freedom2016:
Shattap. I know her personally. She speaks fluent Igbo. Her name is "Diezani" meaning Good Land in Igbo. Don't fool by artificial borders and useless SS and SE creations. They are native Igbos in all SS states.

Nah... you are the one that needs to shut up!! So in your ignorant mind, everyone who speaks fluent Igbo is from Igbo land? Your cluelessness has no equal. Read her life history below and stop peddling falsehood.

Diezani Allison-Ma­dueke, nee Agama, born into a royal and wealthy family in the Epie clan from Yenaka community in Yenegoa local government area of Bayelsa State, lived up to that reputation of royalty, luxuriating in opulence fit only for a princess as she bestrode the corridors of Nige­ria’s power house, Aso Rock Villa under for­mer President Jonathan.

She was born on December 6, 1960, three months after Nigeria’s independence from British colonial rule, Diezani’s father, His Royal Majesty, King Frederick Abiye Agama was among the first set of Ijaw leaders to study abroad at the revered University of Southamp­ton where he studied Economics. A highly re­spected First Class Ruler, Agama was one of first set of few Nigerians that were members of the management staff of Shell Petroleum Development Company ( SPDC).

It was, therefore, little wonder that the young Diezani, the third of six children had the best of childhood in the oil-rich Niger Del­ta region where they were one of the first set of Black kids to have access to the swimming pool at Shell club, Port Harcourt.

In 1977 after her ‘A’ level, she left first for the United Kingdom and later Howard Uni­versity in the United States where she studied Architecture.

Having studied Architecture in England and then at Howard University in the United States, Diezani graduated from Howard with a Bachelor’s degree on 8 December 1992. She returned to Nigeria and joined Shell Petroleum Development Corporation that year. Getting a job in Shell wasn’t difficult for her like the un­derprivileged children of other people. Her fa­ther’s position in the oil giant was said to have made it easy for her to get a job there without joining the usual queue.

In 2002, she attended Cambridge University for her MBA. In April 2006, Shell appointed her its first female Ex­ecutive Director in Nigeria. She became the first female President of OPEC, elected at the 166th OPEC Ordinary meeting in Vienna on 27 November 2014.

She was named Nigeria’s minister of transportation on 26 July 2007 by the late President Yar’Adua as the only ministerial nominee of the then Vice President Good­luck Jonathan and thereafter moved to Mines and Steel De­velopment in 2008, and in April 2010 was appointed Minister of Petroleum Resources after Jonathan became the substantive President following the death of Yar’Adua.

Allison-Madueke studied architecture in Washington D.C. before returning to Nigeria in 1992 to work for her father’s old employer -Shell. Over the next 15 years she rose to become Shell’s first female director in Nigeria, completing an MBA at Cambridge University along the way, before she was appointed minister in 2007.

When she married the retired Naval Chief, Admiral Alison Madueke who had lost his wife three years previously in a medical operation,, she inherited five grown up children from Allison Madueke’s first marriage until she had her own child, Chimezie in 2001. http://www.africansuccess.org/visuFiche.php?id=1006&lang=en

Wow!! Almost 5 posts have been dedicated to a nameless stalker! When people make sly references to a person, but lack the guts to mention names - what are they called? Cowards!! Oh, this is so amusing to see. See envy at its peak - what a way to make a person famous!! Hehehe...

Freedom2016:
Go and tell her she is not Igbo, that day, you will regret ever being a divisive afonja.

There are over 150 ethnic groups in Nigeria, and at last count this number had increased to over 275 tribes. Only someone who flunked history, geography and social studies in school, would address anyone who disagrees with him as an Afonja. If Diezani was born in Ala Igbo, then state her village, town or local govt area in the SE. Otherwise, get your ignorant, imbecilic cranium off my mentions!

omonnakoda:
The Gazette

Government Notice No. 1207/1966 ordering the release of Awo on August 2, 1966.

Please scan and post the gazette here too, sharp-sharp! All the press reports that were scanned and included by various respondents in their posts on this thread, were just so interesting. Ah, that is the beauty of facts, figures and research. Wow!!

There is an interesting book written about Lagos titled POSSESSED, and the author is the former Attorney-General of Lagos State, Olasupo Shasore. Even though I have lived in Lagos for many years, I guess I still do not know enough about the city. Shasore's book contains interesting aspects about the city of Lagos, from its history down to its political antecedents from the 19th to the 20th Century.

When you have read Olasupo Shasore’s Possessed – A History of Law and Justice in the Crown Colony of Lagos, 1861-1906, you would no longer be in doubt regarding the special status of Lagos within the Nigerian context.

While it has never been in question that the Kingdom of Lagos by far predates modern-day Nigeria, it has perhaps never before come out so glaringly that Lagos was indeed an independent, sovereign nation-state before the British invasion and bombardment of 1851, more than half a century before the term Nigeria was coined by Flora Shaw.

To do justice to the subject matter, the author divides the book into eight chapters, namely, The Lagos Kingdom in the Law Courts, 26 Upper King Street – Legal and Traditional Settings, Bombardment and War on Lagos 1851, The 19th Century Treaties, To Do Justice to this Place – Legal History, Challenge To Authority – The Eleko, Land and Property Ownership, and The Sun Sets on The Colony of Lagos. He goes further to add an ‘Afterword’ and ‘Appendices’ as well as reproduce pictures and documents that not only embellish the work but also aid the reader’s understanding of facts.

The beauty of Shasore’s account lies essentially in its close attention to detail – no detail is too minute to escape the thorough researcher in him. The author records that by 1850, Lagos had an estimated population of 30,000 people who predominantly spoke the Oyo dialect of what was to be later widely referred to as Yoruba. The small port city-state was a monarchy ruled by the Ologun (or possibly Eleko or later Oba), and its political power structure rested on this dynastic line, a line that had by this time been in continuous rule for over 200 years. And so, Lagos is not a ‘no man’s land’, and to continue to bandy such falsehood reflects “poor learning, ignorance and mischief”.

The contribution of Lagos to the making of modern Nigeria comes out clearly in Possessed. Having severed itself from the Benin Kingdom and asserted its independence by discontinuing the payment of tributes to the Oba at Benin, and having by this time acquired great prominence and wealth, Lagos proved too powerful to be challenged by any local authority. It took only the superior naval power of Britain to subdue Lagos, but not without stiff resistance from the Lagos Africans.

The British bombarded Lagos in 1851, and in 1861 took active possession of the island city-state with the fraud called the Treaty of Cession of 1861. With the establishment of formal authority, it became, effectively, The Crown Colony of Lagos, “with a flag, its own constitution, government and subjects, some 53 years before the establishment of Nigeria”.

The need to harness the resources of Lagos would in 1906 lead to its forced amalgamation with the Southern Protectorate, and in 1914, the absence of funds to run the Northern Protectorate necessitated the creation of Nigeria through amalgamation in order, it would appear, to run the whole country with resources from Lagos.

So, whether in the pre-colonial, colonial or post-colonial era, Lagos played – and continues to play – “a prominent, inevitable, eminent role” in West African trade and society as well as in the making of modern Nigeria. As Shasore argues, “Without Lagos and the events that led to intervention in its internal affairs, the entire atmosphere for amalgamation may not have been contrived. In some ways, Lagos is the mother city.
http://naija247news.com/2014/10/book-reviewpossessed-a-history-of-law-and-justice-in-the-crown-colony-of-lagos-1861-1906/

bigfrancis21:
Akpanya people are native Igbos. The people of Akpanya speak Igbo as first language, and not Igala except they travel out of the town. The natives are Igbo Christians but there are many Igbo settlers there who are Muslims who converted to Islam and migrated from other areas to the tow due to religious freedom there.

Also, the people of Eke Avurugo (Afulugo) in Kogi state speak Igbo as first language. The village of Odolu is bilingual in both Igala and Igbo.

Yes, there are native Igbos in Kogi state (in Igalamela and Ibaji LGAs). Let us learn to keep facts straight.

Visit this thread if you need more information: https://www.nairaland.com/3443446/igbo-speaking-communities-kogi-state

greatjoey:
The indigenous Akpaya people are migrant from Egume in Dekina LG of Kogi state and are complete Igala and they are true descendants of Atah Ayegba of the blessed memory. The Igbo they speak is as a result of inter marriage and close neighbourhood between them and the Nsuka Igbos. The on the other hand ate descendants of Atiele Omidoko, and are freeborn of Igala. Though, there arr Idoma and Igbo residents of Ete too. Those Idomas know that they migrated from Benue state so also the Igbas as it might interest you to know that Ete is a town in Kogi state and neither Enugu nor Benue. I am from that community and I am an Idoma guy.

How interesting!! Anytime they say that Igbos are the indigenous people of Ibaji in Kogi State, I always laugh!!

AK6464:
Nice one but still incomplete, Nyifon, Agatu and Abakpa, all in Benue State are missing from the list

having Igbos living and doing business in Benue doesn't make Benue one of the Igbo states, pls edit

True!!

Noblesoul123:
This is for the information of tribal bigots who think Nigeria operates on a tripod of Igbo, Hausa & Yoruba

God bless you! Help me to tell them, especially the IPOBian crew that thinks anyone who does not agree with them comes from the South-West!

greatjoey:
My brother, there is no indigenous Igbo in Benue and Kogi states. The only links are that Igbo of Enugu and Ebonyi share boundaries and cultural ties with Benue state, and Anambra, Enugu, and Delta Igbos share same with Kogi state. Note also that there are indigenous Igala tribe in Enugu, Anambra and Delta syates.

In fact, people have debated this issue several times on NL.

Nnamdd1:
A Comprehensive list of all the 371 Ethnic Groups in Nigeria.

Mine is 165, What is Yours?

Source: http://www.naijahelm.com/2016/12/complete-list-of-all-371-ethnic-groups-in-nigeria.html

Wow!! And last time I checked, I saw a list of just 150 ethnic groups. Now, it has grown to 371 ethnic groups. We are really blessed as a country!!

Orikinla1:
I project that "The Wedding Party" will become the second Nigerian movie to gross over US$1Million since the 1977 box office hit, "Bisi, Daughter of the River" directed by Joseph Abiodun Babajide, aka Jab Adu who passed away in 2016. His movie played at more than 300 cinemas for three years in Nigeria.

There are millions of Nigerians who will like to see "The Wedding Party" during the Valentine week next month.

I heard a lot about Bisi Daughter of the River, while growing up, but never got to see it. I heard it featured Patti Boulaye, the famous British singer of Nigerian descent. But I do not think we ever had up to 300 cinemas in Nigeria, at any point in time.

Some of those old movies should be brought back and shown on TV.

hammerF:
Found it!

Have u conducted any research to scertain that Igbo cultural influence did not survive or thrive, yet u claim Bini influence on igbo? This is a double edge sword.(speaking from both ends of your mouth without the middle part.)

It is very good u use the word Ghato, it is even more igbo and it mean "will be stuck" in igbo. I hope u know that word Ise means exactly the same thing in Bini as it does in Igbo?

Kpere is a yoruba word. it points to longevity.

Guy, just hold it right there! 'Ghato' may be a word that exists in Igbo language, but it does not mean the same thing in Bini language!! Would the Bini use a word that means "will be stuck," in their salutation to the king? Ise means 'Amen,' and is also widely used among several ethnic groups in the Niger-Delta, not just by the Igbo.

If Bini descended from the Igbo, then Igbo cultural influence would have existed among the Bini, and it would be quite obvious to third parties, especially when it comes to customs, traditions, names, traditional music, marriage rites etc.

hammerF:
Yesterday, u are from Kogi and a yoruba man, today u are a Bini man. U sure say u no get multiple personality disorder ni?

Actually, BornStunner1 is as Edo as they come! Another of his compatriots is kingOvoramwen1.