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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:27am On Dec 01, 2015

razid:
Some are taking note of the potentials of Ondo. But again, why the fixation on Lagos? I think this investors are first and foremost after their pockets before any other altruistic considerations. Praying Lagos will not turn to another Ogoniland as a result of oil spillage in the nearest future. That will be catastrophic.

Lagos govt officials have succeeded in marketing their location as a preferred destination, to incoming investors. If you have ever attended any of the Ehingbeti conferences, you would discover that Lagos public officials are serious about attracting new businesses to the state. wink

I am yet to see anything tangible that Ondo State has done in this regard. They need to get off their backsides and go all out to attract investors into the place. Not just sit down and make speeches. undecided

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:17am On Dec 01, 2015*

InterloperX5:
You shouldn't have given him attention, their antics are well known on Nairaland . . . . .they throw some nasty comments and leg it in the hope you throw words back and loose focus . . . . . anyway that aside

Some of this project as discussed demands new money or new wealth to drive things up, government financies as it is now seems bugged down with recurrent expenditures and best project like this is formulated on a private public template to get things started asap, sectors of the economy like rail transportation and more importantly the very profitable axis like the Lagos Oyo Ogun axis for starters. . . .

Yes, new money is needed but why does it have to be govt money? Create enabling laws within a particular area that promote industry and lower the barriers to entry for new businesses or participants, invite investors to participate in that area and offer them like 10-years tax holiday, so they can recoup their money! shocked

Wasn't that what happened in the telecoms sector? Did govt give a kobo to MTN, Econet/Airtel, Etisalat and later Glo, to set up GSM? No! IBB merely deregulated the sector and passed appropriate laws to allow new entrants into the game, then capped it with a 10-year tax holiday.

MTN thought it would take 5 years for them to break even, when they first entered the Nigerian market. But they broke even the 1st year, and started making profits in the 2nd year. By the 3rd year, MTN Nigeria was contributing a sizeable chunk of profits to MTN Group Operations in Africa. undecided

They should do the same for rail, water transport, refineries etc! sad

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Autos › Re: 08 LR3...010-014 LR4..014 Benz E350 4MATIC...014 Avalon & more (4d chairmen) by laudate: 12:32pm On Nov 30, 2015

rickkychidex111:
It depends. If properly done well by experts...then it would be fine.

How much is the LR3 going for??

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:21pm On Nov 30, 2015*

InterloperX5:
Am yet to be fully convinced we have matured politicians in this clime, everyone kinda in it to clean out and point fingers once things go haywire, how on earth can a country be richly blessed in the soil, on the waters and good climate and still cannot stand on her feet never ceases to baffle me.

If i may go down memory lane, Copenhagen is the capital of Denmark and Denmark as a whole is made up of 700 little islands by leveraging on their marine power they literally built an industry out of water! from fishing to tourism to having the largest container shipping cargo (MEASK) birthed from their country tells me the endless possibilities coastal industries can give birth to if we really take it serious.

Then you have a country like Ireland with ferry services across the English channels, carrying everything from trucks, cars, goods, services and what have you, sailing is bout 3 hours from Holyhead to Dublin and boy o'l boy, those ships never run empty and they do bout 8 trips a day btw Irishferries and Stanalines. . . . . . .again smart folks leveraging on their coastal powers.

Like someone opined earlier, would't it be so nice we have some kind of coastal travel between Lagos and Ondo? the benefit to dangote refinery and the allied industries that will spring up as a result of siting same in Ondo can't be a thumbs down in anyway.

Thank you, oh!! shocked

I keep saying we have not scratched the surface of the huge potentials that exist in our waterways, and what we can achieve on different fronts, if we choose to focus on generating wealth and logistics solutions, using our water channels.

Take little Dover in the UK. Do you know how much they earn from those who use the waterways in their district? If there was a large ferry conveying cars from Lagos to Ondo, that could do the journey safely & efficiently in under 3 hours, what am I looking for on the road?? shocked

I would simply hop on the ferry, enjoy the cool breeze and escape the chaotic traffic and bad roads.

When Ozumba Mbadiwe Avenue was being reconstructed by LCC in 2006-2008, it used to take about 2 hours to get through the gridlock from Lekki to V/I, before anyone could move on towards Ikoyi area. I often escaped from the madness by taking a 15-minute speedboat ride from Tarzan jetty at the Maroko end of V/I, to Queen's drive in Ikoyi. I usually got to work ahead of my peers, refreshed and relaxed, ready to take on my daily assignments. cool

My colleagues living in that axis who took the option of going by road, always arrived in the office exhausted, grumpy and irritable after battling through the traffic. cheesy

Business › Re: If I Were The Owner Of Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company by laudate: 12:04pm On Nov 30, 2015

write2obi:
Thread: If you were the owner of innoson vehicle manufacturing company

Answer: you are not
so chill and stop ranting

He is NOT ranting. He is offering sound marketing communications advice, which some people pay consultants in this field, huge sums to acquire. If you have nothing constructive to say, kindly 'eff off! angry

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:49am On Nov 30, 2015*

modath:
Venice & Amaterdam are old old cities that developed their waterways system before the advent of motor cars & only built on from that, so you are comparing apples & oranges & BTW black people and water don't mix well..

It is only those whose circumstances of birth put them right in the midst of water that evolved to being one with it, the ilajes, ijaws etc....

The reason many black people died in '05 hurricane katrina was cos folks couldn't swim..

&

Laudate, you completely ignored the "where is the funds to go over water," question

Waterways are still being developed in various countries, as we speak. The funds to go over the water can also be obtained in the same way the state govt got funds to construct toll-gates, LFTZ, and other construction projects sited on the land. Afterall, Lekki-Ikoyi bridge was built by Fashola in under 2 years, with which funds?? shocked

Apart from that, such bridges built can be tolled to recoup the funds, as experience has shown in the Lekki-Ikoyi bridge. If the Ikorodu-Badore-Epe bridge had been built as planned, part of the chaotic traffic experienced on Lagos island, would have diminished. undecided

The idea of building multiple bridges across various islands may not even be required in some cases (although it would undoubtedly be necessary in some places), but building solid concrete jetties and deploying safe, efficient ferries that can cut transportation time in half, would benefit a lot of commuters who decide to use the waterways. wink

Patrol boats carrying qualified coastguards and life-guards can also be deployed on the waterways. Getting rid of wrecks and water hyacinth that could damage propeller engines, can also be done to prevent mishaps and it does not cost an arm and a leg. undecided

Accidents on water can be prevented by ensuring only well-built and structurally sound boats are deployed to carry passengers from one location to the other. Such boats/ferries should have qualified life-guards on board too, while life-jackets should be made compulsory for any intending passenger. Because people do not know how to swim, they should not be discouraged from using water transport. Accidents happen on land too, so do we ask people to stop taking road trips? sad

There are folks who do not know how to drive, but that has not stopped them from taking buses and other forms of road transport to get to their destination.

Finally, several of those islands off the coast of Lagos, have a number of jobless youth that are excellent swimmers who can be trained as lifeguards and coast guards. In the past, the Ilaje people patrolled the waterways along the coast of the South-West. They can be invited to contribute their expertise in this area, once again. cool

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:36am On Nov 30, 2015*

modath:
EoD, No more no less....I'm going to give two examples to illustrate my position that both the leaders & the led deserve each other...

1. I have an aunt who has virtually abandoned her real biz to engage in "area godmother politics", her definition of a "good" leader is how much the said politician is ready to cough up to maintain their loyalty...

She's in her 50's & been in politics since forever, only changes allegiance as belle face, once i was pushed to ask her "infrastructures & good governance nko", she just looked @ me & smiled like i was a mumu & asked if i think Nigeria can ever be great again , said the country is spoilt beyond repair & each man is for himself...

I was hurt beyond words that day & you know why? She & her cohorts are the delegates that choose candidates in primaries...

2.A family friend is an engineer in an IOC/NNPC JV, said there was a community development scheme that the IOC was to undertake, refurbishment of classrooms & the small health centre in the community.... He said the project didn't see light of day cos the elders were distinctly split into two groups

Group A, wanted the company to pay them royalty before embarking on a project that is meant to benefit their own community while Group B claimed their own children were no longer of elementary school age & the funds for the said project should be shared to everyone to solve other needs....

He said the oyinbo men just kept asking the naija guys if there is mass insanity that the community need to be tested for cos they just don't get the kind of mentality that inhibits personal progress & development....

I'm disappointed with the slow progress of this admin but I'm still holding on to hope, & on the travel thing, IT IA UNFAIR the position people have taken, it is not like he is on vacation in the carribeans...

Shy, do an analysis of the places he had been to in recent days, they are all important, Gas exporting countries in Iran, Chogm in Malta, Climate change in france have one impact or the other on our policies ..

I believe the new year will come with new things...

90% of the people complaining actually are praying for the failure of the nation to mock the state of the nation...

Crude oil as at yesterday was 44.50$ P.B, no matter what we say or postulate, this nation is a mono exporting one & to diversify won't happen in 6mths, even 12 months is too soon!!!

Your 2nd example is a classic recital of the malaise that pervades many of our communities, especially in the coastal areas. I already shared on this forum, the experience that Ben Murray Bruce had, when he wanted to repair the stretch of bad road leading off the Lekki-Epe Expressway at Jakande Estate, to his Silverbird Office in that district. sad

The community leaders and youths in that area demanded a bribe of 20 million naira BEFORE they would allow him to start any construction work on that road. They forgot that once the construction commences, they would be engaged as direct labourers on the site, their community would be opened up, ease of access would promote small-scale businesses located in that axis as more visitors would flock to the area, enhanced business opportunities through an improved road network would increase revenue flowing to the area, etc.

They ignored all these and focused on the short-term gains they could get from the bribe that would be 'shared' by elders in their community. shocked

Ben Bruce simply relocated the operations of his firm out of that area and moved back to his Silverbird Galleria in Victoria Island. That road is still in a state of disrepair even as we speak, and it gets heavily flooded during any little rainfall. sad

A similar greedy mindset runs through some coastal communities in the South-West and I keep wondering why this has been allowed to go on for so long. Apparently, it was one of the issues cited by Dangote, in moving his proposed refinery out of the Olokonla area in Ondo State. However, I am yet to get the full details on this. undecided

There are ways to negotiate on-going benefits that could accrue to host communities as was done a few years back, by a gas processing company in Kwale, Delta State. The host community gets 2.5% of profits generated by the plant, and are also entitled to a community development levy charged against trucks that come in there to load gas products from the plant.

Every quarter, the money is ploughed into community development projects like roads construction and maintenance, health care centres etc. undecided

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Autos › Re: Help Armed Robbers Stole Our Car by laudate: 1:07am On Nov 30, 2015

Sorry, o! Was a tracker installed on the car?? She can get the tracking company to immobilise the vehicle if it is in transit. They can tell her the location of the car too, so that the police can ambush the thieves.

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:51am On Nov 30, 2015

ShymmeXS:
Ondo has oil - so siting both the refinery and sea port there would help the state develop.

Then that will also open up Lekki/Epe to Ogun waterside all the way to Ondo's coast.

But these clown are just too darn stupid - all they care about is greed and airbrushing everywhere/everything.

They lack foresight.

It is not just the state that would develop, but adjacent South-western states would benefit, too! cheesy

Ondo is right at the border with Ekiti and Edo, while Ogun state lies next door. Ogun is a stone throw from Lagos. Can you imagine the potential spin-off of businesses, jobs, income etc., that would come on stream, if that kind of project starts operation? huh

What are the representatives and senators from that axis doing? Why aren't they screaming for help and raising dust, so that the Federal Government can take a second look at this project??

Why isn't the Ondo State Ministry of Trade working with NNPC to create awareness about this issue and resolve it?? Who are the board members of the OK LNG facility?? shocked

Do you remember what happened to Brass LNG when ConocoPhilips pulled out?? Jackson Gaius-Obaseki the Chairman went round the world scouting for investors to buy up Conoco's equity so that the project could continue. Oando eventually raised funds through a consortium of banks, and bought over those shares. The Brass LNG is now back on track! angry

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Politics › Re: Dear Igbos, We Don't Hate You... We Are Not Your Antagonists by laudate: 12:41am On Nov 30, 2015

ocelot2006:
Are you trying to stoke the flames of another tribal war? Be truthful about what you read. There are NO ultimatums, just a number of lines we dont want crossed by the SE secessionist. Other than that barcanista is simply trying to reach out, hence the reconciliatory tone of his post.

True!! sad

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:37am On Nov 30, 2015

scholes0:
[size=14pt]Lagos Unveils Africa’s Biggest Deep Sea Port in Badagry[/size]

[size=14pt]Contractors Begin $1.65bn Construction Works On Lekki Port[/size]
https://www.hopefornigeriaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Lekki-620x270.jpg
Website: http://www.lekkiport.com/
Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_at_Lekki

ShymmeXS, Laudate and Aareonakakanfo .... that is what our leaders are doing. to the detriment of other regions of our commonwealth

Can you imagine what kind of revenues, progress and development would have accrued to people of Ondo state if this kind of project was allowed to take off, in the coastal part of the state?? Ahhhhh...... cry

Lord, give us men with vision and character!! angry

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 12:30am On Nov 30, 2015

scholes0:
This is Yorubaland and surrounding area of allied groups, the most urbanised country in Sub Saharan Africa. Notice that most of our big cities are inland in the tropical forest, with a few in the Savannah like Ilorin, Saki, Kishi, Fiditi Etc ...
The coastal area has just lagos, and the Ijebu Cities as only noticeable settlements of note. The Ilaje area does not even any major have motorable roads linking into it , in an area with massive potential. Why can't the Olokola FTZ be developed? This will bring settlement and development into the area and we would be spoilt with choices.
Western Oyo is also scanty with lots of free land. Why cant people like Adenuga and the rest of them build an industrial park there or something?

Money goes where it is valued, and where it will prosper. Money has wings. What are the citizens of Ondo State themselves, doing to attract investment into the state??

Since Shell and Chevron pulled out of the project in 2013 citing lack of progress on the project, eight years after its inception as well as non-commitment on the part of the Federal Government to pursue the completion of the project and also the non-passage of the Petroleum Industry Bill, PIB, new investors have not been found to take up equity in the project.

So its progress has been stalled.

“The OKLNG Project Company was formed in 2007 by NNPC, BG, Chevron and Shell. BG and Shell withdrew from the project in June 2012 and July 2013 respectively. NNPC was duly informed of Chevron’s decision to withdraw and the divestment process is being managed in accordance with the provisions of the Shareholders’ Agreement governing the project.”

The LNG project
The Olokola LNG project was originally designed to consist of a marine berth for offloading LNG, along with four LNG trains each with a 5.5 Million Tonnes Per Annum (MTPA) capacity.

The first phase of the construction was designed to complete two of the trains, and the second expected to complete the other two — resulting in a 22 mtpa capacity.

The OKLNG project was initiated in 2005, with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, as the major shareholders, with 46.75 per cent stake, BG — 14.25 per cent, Chevron — 19.5 per cent and Shell — 19.5 per cent.
BG pulled out from the project in 2009, following which Chevron increased its stake to 22.74 per cent.

The Memorandum or Understanding, MoU and shareholders’ agreement for the company were signed by parties in 2005 and 2007 respectively, Final Investment Decision was billed for 2007, production and first shipment of LNG from OKLNG was scheduled to commence in 2009, while phase 2 of the project was scheduled to conclude in 2010.

A source at OKLNG said the project, which is the most cost-effective LNG project in Nigeria, if allowed to come on stream, would have served as a major contributor to Nigeria’s economy development.

According to the source, a number of projects already undertaken at the site, risk being abandoned, such as the pioneer camp among others.

The source said, “The project was going ahead of schedule, all of a sudden, funding ceased.”

The source noted that the plan of the project was for gas producers/owners to send natural gas to the facility where it would be converted to LNG for a fee and pumped into owner ships for sale. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/08/10000-jobs-at-risk-as-chevron-shell-pull-out-from-oklng/

Till now, the Final investment Decision (FID) which should have been taken in 2007 has not been done. this is part of what led Shell & chevron to throw in the towel, 2 years ago.

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:58pm On Nov 29, 2015

ShymmeXS:
That was the project I was alluding to at the beginning of the thread. They moved it to Epe.

Ondo/Ogun didn't treat their indigenous folks shabbily - but these greed thieves in Lagos treated their indigenous folks like the savages in the Avatar movie. They didn't even give them a chance to negotiate with Dangote and get either compensation or resettlement - the wicked thieves just sent the military there to kick folks out of their ancestral lands.

It is actually in Ibeju-Lekki area, where the free trade zone is located. I want to go to bed in a good mood tonight so I won't even touch on the shenanigans of land grabbers in that area and the way Tinubu and co took their lands away with impunity, leaving them with very little in exchange. sad

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:52pm On Nov 29, 2015

scholes0:
SouthWest leaders are stupid and visionless.
There was an OK free trade zone that was supposed to be cited in the Olokola area of Ondo/Ogun states. The present Dangote refinery under construction around the Lekki axis was supposed to have been cited there.
Instead of them to have put enough pressure on the guy and the other involved chinese investors to ensure that the Olokola area is developed, they allowed them to move it to Lagos state, when we know very well that Lagos is already teeming with enough commerce and industry.
Why must we put all our eggs in one basket, what kind of visionless leadership is that?

We need another developed coastal city in Yorubaland. Southern Ondo state in the Ilaje Axis would be my location of choice, or somewhere in Ijebuland.

Gbam!! cheesy

I have said it before over and over, if Nigerians do not exploit the potentials of their waterways, they would lose out on a huge source of revenue and an efficient way to ease transportation for the masses.

Someone once told me that from Lagos to Ondo State via the waterways is just a journey of 2 and half hours. I don't know if his estimates are accurate. Why can't an interstate ferry service be developed?? It would beat having to stay choked up in Lagos-Ibadan expressway traffic, just because I want to get to Ondo by road. sad

Ever since I can remember, the bitumen in Ondo state has been a subject on the pages of newspapers. What has been done to actively market and exploit this resource? Very little. It is just so sad. undecided

Dangote's refinery should not be the only one in the South-West. It was reported recently that Buhari has issued licenses to 65 private investors to set up modular refineries. What has Ondo State government done to actively get some of them to site those refineries in Ilaje area?? Lagos State has a Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources charged with actively seeking investment opportunities that would enable the state tap into the oil & gas sector. What is Ondo State with its potential oil wells doing?? shocked

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:44pm On Nov 29, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
Thanks.Ara oko ni mi So I heard Osun state recieved just 55m for september.I want us to discuss this.Scholes0 continue snubbing the thread
[size=15pt]There is no money to rely on from Federal allocation – Aregbesola[/size]

You are still in tune with current trends...don't worry! cheesy

Anyway, I am glad Osun is looking at other sources of revenue. What they need to do is to devise and articulate a strategy for getting people back to the farms. They should take the following steps:

1). Work with the Federal Ministry of Agriculture to acquire or designate vast tracts of land as farming settlements in each local government area, where Osun citizens can get access to the farmlands at little or no cost; sad

2). Invite foreign and local food processing companies and entrepreneurs into the state, to process part of the farm produce at source, so that it does not go bad after harvesting due to poor storage and logistics;

3). Work out a logistics structure with haulage firms for getting the farm crops to markets in neighbouring cities at an affordable cost, quickly and efficiently. undecided

4). Create massive awareness among the populace in the state on how they can become successful farmers and fishermen, by following certain prescribed steps to get access to farmlands, tools, fertilisers, business advisory support and other inputs.

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Politics › Re: Supreme Court Upholds Right of Female Child to Inherit Properties in Igboland by laudate: 11:31pm On Nov 29, 2015

allcomage:
your question is not complete,fine tune it to get answers.

If you feel it is incomplete, it means you did not understand the question because it was quite explicit. undecided

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Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:28pm On Nov 29, 2015*

Aareonakakanfo:
Smh

Oluwa Glass Company-0

Ceramic Industry at Ifon-0

Idanre Hills-0

Ofosu Forest Reserve-0

These are projects that can easily make Ondo state the most prosperous state in Nigeria

Laudate how do you enclose your post?

At the beginning of the post, just type [quote]Then at the end, simply type [/quote

Politics › Re: Supreme Court Upholds Right of Female Child to Inherit Properties in Igboland by laudate: 11:16pm On Nov 29, 2015

DerideGull:
A married Igbo lady enjoys whatever she gets from her husband's inheritance. When she dies , the custom does not allow her body to be buried in her father's compound but in her husband's family land. It is pure idiocy for the so-called supreme court to dabble into the custom of the people. What stops the idiotic supreme court to rule that the girls should bring their husbands to settle at her father's compound.

So what happens if the Igbo lady is unmarried, and she loses her father?? shocked

And the father did not leave a will, before he died?? huh

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 11:08pm On Nov 29, 2015

Ok, I am back. Am sorry, but Oluwa Glass Company Plc is currently closed down. This company was one of the largest producers of glass sheets in Nigeria in the Okitipupa /Igbokoda axis of Ilaje area in Ondo State.

It got its raw materials from the abundant silica sand and quartz in that area. In its heydays when the likes of Volkswagen Assembly Plant in Lagos, and Peugeot Motor Plant in Kaduna were still churning out thousands of vehicles for the Nigerian masses in the mid-80s to early 90s before they went under, and were recently revived under GEJ's automotive policy, Oluwa Glass used to manufacture windscreens for both firms. undecided

Here is an article I saw recently on the status of some industries in Ondo state. It also lists the fate that befell Oluwa Glass Plc.

PDP can’t retain power in Ondo | The Nation Newspapers |

Omooba Abayomi Adesanya is the Publicity Secretary of the All Progressives Congress (APC) in Ondo State. He spoke with DAMISI OJO on preparations for next year’s governorship elections and others partisan issues.

Q: You always describe the Mimiko administration as non-performing. What do you think the APC has in stock to change the tempo, if it comes to power?

A: My criticism of this administration has been constructive and issue-based. Exposing the ills and anti-people policies of Mimiko’s government. He runs the state like an emperor and with deceit. Our governor has failed in all his electoral promises. His regime has been a dark period in the history of Ondo State. Nothing is working.

Ondo State has about 11 state-owned industries or more, but today none is working. Oluwa Glass Factory, Igbokoda, with 5,000 workforce is moribund, Okitipupa Oil Palm Plantation with about 1,600 staff strength is dysfunctional, Owena Mass Transit is in extinction, Ifon Ceramics is history, the state Forest Reserve (afforestation) has been deforestated, Owena Dam and the water cooperation that usually supply pipe-borne water to every home in the state is now a dream.

The ever functional General and Specialist Hospitals, Clinics and Maternity Homes built in all the villages and towns across the state now exist in the imagination, Bolorunduro Timbre is gone, to mention but a few.

All these we are going to resuscitate and bring back to life when we get to power. Resuscitating them will create thousands of jobs opportunities to our teaming jobless youths. The APC government in Ondo State will build confidence and hope for the people. We are also targeting between 300 and 500 kilometres of roads in each of the 18 local government areas of the state, to open up the rural areas. We will also abide by our party’s manifesto to the letter. Kindly read the rest here: http://thenationonlineng.net/pdp-cant-retain-power-in-ondo-4/

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:54pm On Nov 29, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
Laudate do you have any info regarding Oluwa glass company?I know say you dey always sabi that kind thing

Ah...please give me a few days to conduct a search. The company is based in the Okitipupa area of Ondo state. They used to manufacture sheet glass, but I am not sure if they are still in operation. undecided

Kindly let me check & get back to you.

Politics › Re: Supreme Court Upholds Right of Female Child to Inherit Properties in Igboland by laudate: 10:47pm On Nov 29, 2015

Ikengawo:
So you think were a 1 man 1 bungalow tribe like your own?! LOL look at this post. So in you home men dont have enough possessions to share between their wife and children. Children inherit yoruba slaves. Fool

Ehn?? LWKMD!! grin

Na so di matter pain you reach??! Oh, which tribe do you think I come from?? Abeg, tell everyone here.....

And then you made me laugh even harder when you said 'children inherit Yoruba slaves.." Re-ea-ally?? shocked

Was that what you inherited when you were growing up? huh

Anyway, since am not Yoruba, I guess you would have deeper insight into such matters than I do! cheesy

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:39pm On Nov 29, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
No tchin tchin.I never knew this

Laudate please tell her to take it easy on us.Awa o gbo Yooba oo

Hehehe.... cool

Egbon, no fall my hand abeg! If you say you don't understand the language, what do you want someone like me to say?? shocked

Do you know how many CDs I consulted, to decode the first sentence in her post?? cheesy

Politics › Re: Decongesting Lagos, Allow Rivers Seaport by laudate: 10:28pm On Nov 29, 2015

Army seizes eight boats, 2.3m litres of stolen diesel | 28 Sep 2015 | : Country: Nigeria

TROOPS of Operation Pulo Shield (OPS) of the Nigerian Army in Port Harcourt have seized 2.3 million litres of allegedly stolen diesel worth N3.45 million from an illegal bunker site in Rivers State.

The petroleum product was siphoned from the pipelines belonging to the Nigerian National Petroleum Company (NNPC).

Maj.-Gen. Alani Okunlola, the Commander of the operation, formerly known as the Joint Task Force, disclosed this to newsmen on yesterday at Tamunotonye Ama in Ogu-Bolo Local Council of Rivers State.

Okunlola said that two suspected oil thieves were arrested at the bunker site, while several equipment used by the operators of the illegal bunkering were seized during the raid.

“On Sept. 23, troops of Sector 2 of OPS of 2 Brigade Army Port Harcourt stormed Tamunotonye-Ama community and discovered a very large bunkering site which operates illegally.”

“Troops during the raid discovered and seized eight large metal barges laden with stolen Automated Gas Oil (AGO), commonly referred to as diesel, while another 23 empty barges were also seized.”

“Two of the eight metal barges have estimated capacity of seven tanker trucks each,” he said.

The OPS commander told newsmen that other items found at the site were 44 large plastic tanks, 22 illegal pumping dumps, 18 pumping machines, three speedboats, two outboard engines and a lengthy hose.

Okunlola said that investigation into the activities of the operators of the illegal bunker had begun.

He said that the investigation should reveal how they were able to operate in the area without being spotted.

The OPS commander said that under his command, the operation had increased the frequency of raids in a bid to end oil theft and illegal bunkering in the Niger Delta region.

The site is located near the Onne Sea Port and the Onne Oil and Gas Free Zone where several multinational oil and gas companies are operating.

Link: http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/09/army-seizes-eight-boats-2-3m-litres-of-stolen-diesel/

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:19pm On Nov 29, 2015

Aareonakakanfo:
Hmmmn who's this mignone character. The name sounds cool One of Modath's people?

Welcome to the commonwealth my sister

She is an ijinle babe. Can you imagine? She even put in the accent marks! shocked

Politics › Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by laudate: 10:17pm On Nov 29, 2015

mignone:
e ku deedé ìwòyí oo gbogbo omo-olú-ìwà-bí. orí mi n wú bí mo se n ka àwon ohun ìjìnlè wònyí lati owó àwon t'èmi.
to the question, I think 'omoluabi'- "offspring of distinct virtues", depicting that which d Yoruba culture&tradition represents; IMO
ìwà loba àwúre, ìwà rere yo gbè wa o; Àse!

Alright, it took me about 4 hours to decode what you wrote up there using my trusted CDs, learning aids and a dictionary, but it was well worth the effort. E seun pupo.

Politics › Re: Decongesting Lagos, Allow Rivers Seaport by laudate: 9:49pm On Nov 29, 2015*

SUPERBOMBER:
Well, it does not end in building seaports but ensuring that those seaports are adequately utilised to improve the ecenomy of the Niger Delta people. There are ports in Port Harcourt and Warri but they are neglected.

Government should deliberately create policies that would divert like up to 40% or more of imports from Lagos to those states.

That aside, let us hope the proposed deep seaport does not end up like the proposed deep seaport at Ibaka in Akwa Ibom state which has remained on paper for eternity now.

Tonyebarcanista, Truckpusher, HopeAthand, Goodboiyy.

Guy, try to know the details of an ongoing practice, by conducting your research, before casting aspersions on anyone. You cannot discharge petroleum products without adequate infrastructure like storage terminals and loading/discharging facilities in an area.

Oil discharge facilities in Warri and Port-harcourt ports were rendered inoperative from the days of the militants and the high spate of kidnapping, in the delta. Owners of private fuel depots also reduced their operations to minimal levels, due to undue harassment and incessant theft by such militant groups. undecided

Today, Automotive Gas Oil (AGO) or diesel is a fully deregulated product. Nothing stops anyone with a DPR certified storage depot, from importing the product and storing it in tank farms located in Port-harcourt or Rivers State. But how many folks are doing so?? The militant groups that steal crude in the creeks and refine them in local metal barges, have destroyed the diesel business. Get to the outskirts of Port-harcourt. You will find the off-spec, crudely-refined diesel available for sale at 95 -97 naira from these boys.

Masters Energy owned by Sampson Ogah built one of the biggest tank farms in Port-harcourt. It has the capacity to store 30,000 metric tonnes of diesel, 60,000 metric tonnes of Premium Motor Spirit (PMS) or petrol, 20,000 metric tonnes of Dual Purpose Kerosene (DPK), etc. Why isn't he importing these products and storing them there?? The militants in the Niger-delta area made life difficult for his business operations in addition to creating situations that led to theft of petroleum products from their tanks at the jetty in that area. So would you blame him for not storing petroleum products there?

Sea Petroleum and Gas (SPG) has a large tank farm located at Koko in Delta State. Why has the owner of SPG been unable to store petroleum products in their tank farm? Rainoil has a jetty and multi-product Tank Farm in Oghara, Delta State which is owned by Gabriel Ogbechie. It is capable of storing 50 million litres of petroleum products. Have you asked him why he is not storing and selling PMS, diesel and kerosene from there?? huh

There are 23 storage depots in the country. In Lagos alone, over 18 private fuel depots and tank farms are located in the APAPA area. Almost half of them are owned by Igbo businessmen and oil traders. Why didn't they site those tank farms in the South-south or the South East in order to reduce the gridlock and congestion in Lagos? The CEO of Integrated Oil & Gas Depot is Emmanuel Iheanacho the former Internal Affairs Minister; the owner of Eurafric Oil is Tony Onoh; the owner of Ibeto Petrochemicals and fuels is another Igbo man. The late owner and founder of Ascon Oil Terminal was George Enenmoh from Asaba, but the depot is being run by his family now. Chika Okafo of Chicason Group owns A-Z Petroleum which also has a large petroleum products terminal in Apapa. The list goes on....

Now, if Lagos has such a huge concentration of private tank farms, more than any other coastal state, where do you think most of the fuel coming into the country will be off-loaded? huh

And that is why the largest concentration of road tankers are found in the Apapa-Oshodi Expressway axis leading to the area where these private depots, are located.

Atlas Cove is the major offloading point in Lagos waters through which petroleum products are discharged into NNPC's depot at Ejigbo in Lagos and Mosimi in Ogun State. From these depots the fuel is meant to be pumped through the pipelines to depots in other parts of the country. undecided

Every other month, you hear of pipelines being vandalised or damaged, who is responsible? Do you think anyone would be stupid enough to pump fuel through any existing pipeline today, when he knows the pipeline is in imminent danger of being vandalised and he could lose millions of naira worth of petroleum products, if this happens? shocked

The Calabar port was meant to be an alternative loading & discharge port for storage of petroleum products but unfortunately, the draft at that port is too shallow and the waters have not been dredged for ages, so any large ship coming there would run aground.

Please let me just stop here. Anytime I think of the infrastructure challenges in the oil and gas industry which have been worsened by the activities of vandals and militants, it makes me sad.... cry

Politics › Re: Supreme Court Upholds Right of Female Child to Inherit Properties in Igboland by laudate: 8:53pm On Nov 29, 2015

Ikengawo:
Daughters inherit what their husbands leave for them. Once you marry a woman shes a member of your family and inherits property from that specific family. In this way marriage is based on the mans ability to be a provider and not his waiting to benefit from the death of the daughters father. This is why Igbo land is more organized and developed than you're shit whole Southwest. There's no government in nigeria and you have no ability to enforce this trash that only nairalander know aboit

Daughters inherit what their husbands leave for them?? Re-ea-ally?? shocked

That is a new one. What then happens to the sons of the daughters' husband, when the husband dies intestate? So the sons of the daughter's husband are not entitled to inherit anything, if the husband leaves the property for his wife?? shocked

Culture › Re: Detailed List Of Hausa Dialects And Places Spoken. by laudate: 8:42pm On Nov 29, 2015

Fulaman198:
Yes, but an old thread

Yeah...but the info is still quite relevant and very educative. undecided

Politics › Re: Who Is Capable Of Been The Igbo President Of 2019? by laudate: 7:33pm On Nov 29, 2015

Episteme2:
Ihejirika, OUK, Ekweremadu, Rochas, Peter Obi, Anyim Pius Anyim.

Peter Obi the ex-governor of Anambra, appears to be the best candidate on the horizon.... cheesy

bry8ted:
Pat Utomi (most preferable)
Ben Bruce
Rotimi Amaechi
Rochas Okorocha

Ben Bruce is NOT Igbo! angry

Politics › Re: Supreme Court Upholds Right of Female Child to Inherit Properties in Igboland by laudate: 7:28pm On Nov 29, 2015

nobilis:
And you think you're qualified to stand in judgment over others?
Just take a look at how u comfortably spelt the words in bold font above wrongly.

Which school did you attend?
How many "tastes" did you pass?
I wonder why you want to check the qualification of the "Juges", when your own qualification is in question.

Don't you think your WASSCE result should be withdrawn by WAEC?

Ah so na dat one you see, sef. cheesy

What about the part where he stated "ulta virus" with cockiness, instead of the Latin word 'ultra vires'? Nothing wey person no go see for NL....

I truly feel sorry for his daughters, if he has any. His archaic sense of reasoning, must be causing them pain. undecided

Politics › Re: Supreme Court Upholds Right of Female Child to Inherit Properties in Igboland by laudate: 6:50pm On Nov 29, 2015*

SegunAdewole:
You assume that i am Ibo but i am not. I'm only looking at things in perspective. Ibo women are the most educated and have the highest standard of living even better than our yoruba women, have you asked yourself why. Do.you know that many Ibo fathers will rather educate their female children to tertiary evel on their lean resources and send their sons to learn a trade. What inheritance is greater than that?
If a father spends so much to educate his daughte, he has the right to expect her to become great tommorow and help the family. doesn't he?

Hehehe..... let me guess. sad

You conducted some kind of analytical research into the number of female Igbo students vs. female Yoruba kids that graduate from different schools all over the country, reviewed their educational qualifications, plotted the results into a Gantt chart or a Pivot table, then extrapolated the figures from the chart, before arriving at this conclusion you spewed out above?? shocked

Or how did you arrive at this hypothesis? A lot of folks would like to know.... huh

Because it is unclear what perspective you are talking about, and people would like to know what exactly informed this perspective.

najoke:
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GBAM!!!!
Welcome to BIAFRA.....where the girl child is a means to an end.

Ba-aa-ad boy!! cheesy

Una no go kill person with laugh for here!! grin

kazmanbanjoko:
Hmmnn, what of family of only girls. Will they introduce a third party or what.

Good question!! Now what is the answer?? huh

I have seen two cases where the father's brothers ended up inheriting the properties of a deceased man who died intestate, and left behind only daughters. undecided

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