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9jagobetta:
The Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, has said there was a need for uncommon thinking to end the power challenge battling the country.

He said, “We spent over two hours at the Monday Executive Council meeting deliberating on Nuclear Energy for the state and how it could be deployed in use in the state. That shows you we intend to address issues of Power. We sat down with one of the foremost experts, a Nigerian, who took us through all the protocols that are needed for establishing it. “In less than three years we can establish it, especially when we need not do distribution, but places like the Lekki Free Zone can have the Nuclear Power between 15 and 24 months.”
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Why do Nigerians like rushing in, where sane people fear to tread? Does Fashola know the amount of radioactive waste that would be generated from the use of nuclear energy? Is he aware of how toxic, such waste & nuclear emissions can be? Are they aware of the need for containment sites and the protocols for disposal of radioactive waste?

Why is it that they always choose Lekki for their shenanigans? Who have we offended in this Lekki, for goodness sake??

Oga, stop posting stale news in this section. This issue was raised in the House of Reps early last year and was swiftly debunked in the press some months later.

So what is your post meant to achieve? Mtcheew...

macof:
is the curse the only thing u picked up? And wat has it to do with colonization from the British? I never implied such

If u so interested abt verifying wat I posted...take to google..since u only accept internet age history

As if any history was not passed orally before being documented

Take the stress to go to old people, ask them questions...they know the history better than any half baked historian professor

Stop going round in circles. Just answer the question. According to your previous post, Ilorin was not conquered by the Fulani because you said Afonja asked Alimi to come & help him. That story has been debunked. A lot of research has been done on that and the facts have been published by various scholars.

Next, you claimed there was a curse and because of that Ilorin people would forever be slaves. I brought up the British conquest of the North and other parts of West Africa, to show that the conquest of Ilorin had nothing to do with your so-called curse, as other tribes in Nigeria were also conquered in a similar fashion by external sources.

Do you still want it to be broken down for you, into kindergarten rhymes so you can understand it?

macof:
sorry I don't learn history from books as much are without authenticity. I learn from the source

My Great Great Great grand father by whom I bare my family name was a war chief of Ido-Ekiti. he was picked among all the warriors from the kingdom to be trained in Ilorin..
The the story I posted before is known well in my home town and around former Oyo colonies

Take it or keep looking for internet age books and online article to teach you Yoruba history which would only mislead you

Story, story, .....story! Hahaha!

That is the problem with Nigerians... always rushing to elevate hearsay, into gospel truth that cannot be verified anywhere. A lot of oral traditions have already been documented. So if this story you cited here is true, some researchers would have taken pains to investigate and document it. How old were you, when your great great great grandfather passed on? Two? Did he relate the story directly to you?

I asked you a question earlier - "Don't forget that the colonial masters also conquered and ruled the North, as well as other parts of West Africa. Did the 'curse' affect the Northerners, too?" Am still waiting for the answer...

naptu2:
You don't know Sweet Mother? No mother's day in Nigeria is complete without it.

Each one of those songs was a major hit in Nigeria (number one on many tv and radio charts). They were also hits beyond Nigeria (Sweet Mother, Hello Africa etc were pan african hits. Hello Africa was in the top ten in several European countries). Not only were they hits for their time (that is, the year they were released and a few years afterwards) they remain major hits long afterwards, eg

No mother's day in Nigeria is complete without Sweet Mother. If you doubt me, listen to radio stations the next mother's day and see how many stations will play it.

Hello Africa is perennially associated with Africa. Watch and see if this song is not played at any major event that's associated with Africa (in Africa and europe). It was not only number 1 in Nigeria, but also number 1 in Austria, number 2 in Germany, number 7 in Switzerland and number 1 in many African countries. It was also a top ten hit across Europe.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_Afrika_(song)

Sawale and Baby Jowo are so good that, not only are the originals regularly played on radio, but they've spawned several cover versions (Feladey, Flavour, etc for Sawalele and Art Alade, L.t Shotgun, etc for Baby Jowo). Who would want to cover a crappy song?

These are some of the greatest Nigerian songs ever.

Gbam!! Gbam!!! Gbam!!!! Thank you for educating the clueless, my brother. I was aghast when I saw this MTV Africa's list!

Chai!! Arrant nonsensical compilation, (apologies to Chief Zebrudaya of New Masquerade)!

This is what you get when a TV station hires producers that are under 25 years as well as presenters that just clocked 19, calling them Vee-Jays, or video jockeys. No research, no survey, no tracking, no groundwork! Sheer laziness was exhibited on the part of MTV Africa, when they put out this list. They just rushed to their studio to draft a list of some songs that were launched less than 10 years ago, and their selection was done based on questionable ratings and queer criteria. (only God knows what criteria they used, sef!)

Talking about African songs, where is Mariam Makeba's "Malaika"? How come it didn't make the list? Joromi by Sir Victor Uwaifo, should also have been up there along with Sweet Mother by Prince Nico Mbarga and Omoge by Mike Okri.

What about Fela Anikulapo-Kuti's "Lady"? And Dr. Alban's 'It's My life'

Or even that song by Ivorian Zouglou artists Magic System, taken from the album of the same name "1er Gaou (or Lepa Gawu)'?.

Or I.K Dairo's 'E rora feso jaiye', that evergreen oldie? And the ones remixed by Paul Play Dairo, his son? They were not even considered...can you imagine!

Abeg, this MTV Africa's list is making me vex....big time!

When I touched down in Sir Seretse Khama International Airport in Gaborone some months back...guess which songs were wafting through the overhead speakers? Cardinal Rex Lawson's Sawale which was remixed by Flavour titled Nwa baby.

Chai! And MTV Africa the clueless station still goes ahead to churn out a list that makes no sense!

macof:
You should know that the founder of Ilorin is Afonja's grandfather, an elephant hunter from the metropolitan oyo villages. Afonja became a soldier in the Oyo army and was appointed Aare Ona Kankanfo (army marshal) of Oyo, when Oyo ruled most parts of Today's Yorubaland

Ilorin was the base of Oyo warriors, and also the northern slave camp. Fulani and Nupe slaves were at abundance to tend to Alaafin's horses and the army.
due to an argument with Alaafin Aole, Afonja sought the fulani Islamic preacher in Ilorin, Alimi to help get fulanis and muslims(Yoruba muslims included) to fight for ilorin's independence...afonja got his independence but lost rulership as he was killed by Alimi. Alimi became ruler as he was declared by the fulani, nupe, bariba and Yoruba muslims residing in the city.
Aole cursed afonja's descendants to be slaves like the slaves that helped their father, also he caused Yorubas to be used as slaves since his foreign slaves were freed..that's when Yoruba sons and daughters began to be taken by the Europeans

What is the source of this piece of historical tale you recounted here? Kindly post it so we can read & verify. Hearsay is not admissible...this is the internet age!

Anyway, you have made one thing clear - Ilorin was captured by the Fulani, who installed an Emir. The lineage of that Emir has ruled them till date. There was a heavy influx of Fulani warriors and families into Ilorin, that ended up settling there & inter-marrying with the people of Ilorin.

Kindly read the historical facts here:
[quote author=Nigeria-Usman dan Fodio and the Sokoto Caliphate]By the middle of the nineteenth century, there were thirty emirates and the capital district of Sokoto, which itself was a large and populous territory although not technically an emirate. All the important Hausa emirates, including Kano, the wealthiest and most populous, were directly under Sokoto. Adamawa, which was established by Fulani forced to evacuate Borno, was geographically the biggest, stretching far to the south and east of its capital at Yola into modern Cameroon. Ilorin, which became part of the caliphate in the 1830s, was initially the headquarters of the Oyo cavalry that had provided the backbone of the king's power.

An attempted coup d'état by the general of the cavalry in 1817 backfired when the cavalry itself revolted and pledged its allegiance to the Sokoto Caliphate. The cavalry was largely composed of Muslim slaves from farther north, and they saw in the jihad a justification for rebellion. In the 1820s, Oyo had been torn asunder, and the defeated king and the warlords of the Oyo Mesi retreated south to form new cities, including Ibadan, where they carried on their resistance to the caliphate and fought among themselves as well.

Usman dan Fodio's jihad created the largest empire in Africa since the fall of Songhai in 1591. By the middle of the nineteenth century, when the Sokoto Caliphate was at its greatest extent, it stretched 1,500 kilometers from Dori in modern Burkina Faso to southern Adamawa in Cameroon and included Nupe lands, Ilorin in northern Yorubaland, and much of the Benue River valley

Read more at http://www.mongabay.com/history/nigeria/nigeria-usman_dan_fodio_and_the_sokoto_caliphate.html#yYrjUSquvWol7uea.99;
http://www.mongabay.com/history/nigeria/nigeria-usman_dan_fodio_and_the_sokoto_caliphate.html;[/quote]Your story about the so-called 'curse' is neither here nor there.... and the so-called curse was not responsible for the colonisation of Nigeria by the Europeans.

Don't forget that the colonial masters also conquered and ruled the North, as well as other parts of West Africa. Did the 'curse' affect the Northerners, too?

DRANOEL:
misguided one, murtala is a full blooded kano man (if u must know kano is almost 100% hausa) infact jigawa and kano r what you call complete hausa states!

babangida is a hausa man, i understand your confusion due to the fact that he is from a state that is largely nupe and gwari added to the fact the media has called him nupe and in some other fora gwari! he's family however is part of the migrants that settled in niger!

yar'adua is hausa and not the fulani people mistake him to be!

Haba!! Yar'adua family are complete Fulanis, oh! Don't let them hear you calling them "Hausa"!!

[quote author=From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]Family and Early Life

Yar'Adua was born into an aristocratic Fulani family in Katsina; His father, a former Minister for Lagos during the First republic, held the royal title of Mutawalli (custodian of the treasury) of the Katsina Emirate, a title which Yar'Adua inherited.^[5][6]

He started his education at Rafukka Primary School in 1958, and moved to Dutsinma Boarding Primary School in 1962. He attended the Government College at Keffi from 1965 until 1969. In 1971 he received a Higher School Certificate from Barewa College.[7] He attended Ahmadu Bello University in Zaria from 1972 to 1975, obtaining a B.Sc. degree in Education and Chemistry, and then returned in 1978 to achieve an M.Sc. degree in Analytical Chemistry.[7]

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umaru_Musa_Yar'Adua[/quote]

horlus:
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don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should overhaul in 24hrs. I meant that all this while we have been allocating so much to security. Even some non appropriated funds I learnt had been channelled towards security. That means security has been a big issue this past years. If we have sincerity of purpose by now shouldn't we have had these military helicopters before it got this bad. All this talk of no proper weapons to fight insurgency shouldn't have come up at all.
We need to be pro active in what we do in our dear nigeria. The fact remains that most of the issues we have in this country didn't start today and if we were sincere with ourselves we would have conquered them years before now. Meanwhile back to your question.
The military should fight but don't put dane guns in the hands of people's parents and ask them to fight insurgents ak47s. While politicians are looting funds enough to buy nuclear weapons. Let's continue to fight but put the right weapons in the hands of our soldiers. Fill their bellies with good food. Take care of their loved ones at home so they can have rest of mind on the battle field. And when they die in combat take care of the ones they left behind. God bless Nigeria

Ehm, the military should continue to fight..... with which weapons? The same ones they have not been able to buy from the international market because USA has not allowed the arms manufacturers to sell arms directly to Nigeria?

Please get real!!

If you want people to respond, then you need to do the following:

1). Post pictures of the interior;

2) Post pictures of the engine;

3). Post the VIN number;

4). Post the mileage;

5). Post the asking price (and kindly make sure it is not too expensive).

When people get the required info, if it matches their budget... they would call.

NobleG1: Stopping arms sells to an irresponsible government is the right thing to. Nigerian government is very corrupt, st*upid and incompetent.
The Americans Obama sent to Nigeria to help in BH problem, complained that working with Nigerian officials was very difficult because of their incompetency.

I see .... and so Boko Haram can continue its evil campaign.

With friends like the US, Nigeria certainly doesn't need enemies!

I hope our country will learn from this incident.... there are no permanent friends in politics, only permanent interests exist.

horlus: Thanks for this comment. A lot of people fail to realise that the problem with this country is structural damage from day 1. And before we can move forward we need to fix this things. Our military needs to be overhauled. Same with the government and relevant parastatals. Until we become serious with our democracy and national development we will continue to face issues like this.

Do you think that the military can be overhauled in a twinkle of an eye? Reform is a process and it can last for several weeks, or even months.

In the meantime, Boko Haram continues to ply its evil trade, killing and maiming innocent souls in the North-East while our military put combat on hold to conduct its internal 'reform' process.

What are your suggestions to this debacle?

arresa: Have you asked your own government where the $10 million came from?

Who authorized and appropriated the money?

Why are we sending such amount of money in cash to another country not only to break their laws after breaking our own money laundering laws, but also without a single government official with the money instead of some no name crew and a foreigner?

Why is your government buying weapons from a weapons from an illegal and weapons supplier with no weapons sales permit?

Lastly, America regardless of their shortcomings is still a lawful country and they right their wrongs unlike your own country, it's a country where corrupt politicians are prosecuted and sent to jail. They just sentenced a corrupt governor to jail for 17 years.

Did you read all the posts on this thread before posting this comment? or did you just hit the keyboard before digesting the facts?

just asking....because there is no point repeating the obvious.

Ah, Ekiti people just fall my hand for this issue. Why nah??

There was no need at all for the violence. Couldn't they have taken a leaf from the Niger Delta militants? They should just have kidnapped the judge and any other judge that was expected to preside over the said tribunal. And they should have kept those judges till after the swearing-in ceremony of the new governor, before releasing them to go and sin no more! Yes!!

That way, the whole issue would have been resolved!

No curfew, no burning of houses and no violence!

olafolarin: Ilorin is bring sold to the North by the Sarakis.
Most Kwara inhabitants are Yorubas with little mixed Fulanis.
Except for geogrpahic location,I see no reason why Kwara should be called
North.It has more with SW than with North.

Because they speak Yoruba, abi ?? Please go back & read the history of Ilorin and how it was established, before you make such sweeping statements.

Lordlexyy: That's my community and you are absolutely right. Ette is purely an Nsukka town. The intermarriage between the three tribes you mentioned is largely responsible for this crisis. Also, a large portion of the Idomas and Igalas who migrated there years ago due to the proximity of ette community and their villages contributed to this mixture.

Here we go again! Ette is an Nsukka town?? Since when? I did youth corps in another town, quite close to that place oh!

Please let us be careful about generalising....their traditional folklore contains references to the fact that they descended from the Igalla people.

zendy: This is all rubbish talk from lazy people in Kogi who cannot develop thier resources. It is common knowledge that the Anambra river basin is rich in oil and gas deposits. The two oil wells that Orient oil are currently operating on are in Aguleri otu. Is Aguleri in Kogi? FYI Orient oil is a fully licenced petrochemical refining and oil prospecting company which the Anambra state government has invested close to 3 Billion Naira to get it where it is. So instead of you lazy youths of Kogi putting your government to task about what they are doing to develop whatever resources maybe found on your lands,you people are busy conducting 'cross border raids' into Igbo land to reap where you did not sow.

Erm, Oga please be informed that the oil wells where Orient is currently operating or conducting its' exploration activities, cover more than 3 states. Those wells are located in Anambra, Kogi, Enugu and other state boundaries. Kindly read the rest of the story here:

[quote author=Kogi Reports.com]Kogi Oil: Experts Want Technical Committee on Anambra, Kogi Dispute

Geographically, the Anambra Basin literally sits on top (north) of the Niger Delta and like the Niger Delta, cuts across several states, including Anambra,Benue, Delta, Edo, Enugu and Kogi. The basin, also like the Niger Delta, has been divided into blocks and awarded to various companies with work commitments enshrined in the various agreements signed. That of OPRL is a Sole-Risk Agreement with a commitment to build a refinery.

OPL 915 lies across the states of Anambra, Edo, Enugu and Kogi, with about 50 percent of the block in Kogi, while the remaining states share the other 50 percent. There are four wells drilled on the block by Elf Petroleum – Anambra River-1 in 1967, Anambra River-2 and 3 drilled later in 1984. The company in 1985 drilled Oda River-1. The three Anambra River wells are located in the Anambra State part of the block, while Oda River-1 was drilled in Kogi State. No wells have been drilled in the territories of Edo or Enugu States.

OPL 916, on the other hand, is located immediately south of OPL 915 and covers Anambra, Edo, Delta and Kogi states, with about 80 percent of the block in Anambra State. Like OPL 915, the block has four wells drilled – Nzam-1 (1954) and Alo-1 (1976) both by Shell, while Elf drilled both Okpo-1 and Iji-1 in 1985. According to reports, Alo-1 found gas, while others have ‘dry’ reported as their current status. All wells except Iji-1 are located inside Anambra State. Iji-1 is in Delta State.

The present controversy is caused by the attraction of the 13 percent derivation fund that will start accruing to Anambra State as an oil and gas producing state. If the Anambra River field is entirely situated inside the territory of Anambra State (and this can only be revealed by the seismic data currently being acquired, and new wells that will follow), then all of the benefits will go to the state. On the other hand, if it extends across the state’s boundary, then some aggregation of reserves on both sides will be used as basis to determine what belongs to each state.[/quote]

Akexstinger: Stop spouting like a rocket, who told u anambra spent money in developing the oil wells? Do u know the difference between a well that has been explored, drilled, cased and capped? For your info, those wells were drilled and cased by federal government "Elf total,Mobil" in the late 1960s n 70s, and after discoveries that the crude oil from these drilled wells were not in commercial quantities, the wells were not fully developed, they were cased n then abandoned. So where is the anambra money coming into this? And besides, who says building a refinery means u are the owner of the wells or that u have reservoir in ur place? Or don't u know the difference between refining and drilling? And that any country can go into refining business even if there is no crude oil deposit! We have japan, aberdeen, and so many countries where they have refineries, PTI and yet they don't have crude oil deposit.

So if anambra spent millions of dollars in building a mini refinery, that is their own cup of tea, as far as we are concern, those wells are in kogi state. Kogi state can decide to build their own refinery later at their own time pending when they feel like exploiting the wells to the fullest capacity. Its all about going to into MOUs with china, singapore, japan and u will have a mini refinery in 8 months just like niger republic have done. So please spare me that issh of anambra spent money. Ibaji is my local govt.

Er, point of correction. Those oil wells are located in a sedimentary basin that actually straddles the boundaries of 3 states (i.e. Kogi, Anambra and Enugu state).

While you have made some valid points, it must be pointed out that the oil still needs to be drilled, before it can be refined. The communities in Kogi state where part of those oil wells are located, have also accused the Anambra Orient Refinery workers of polluting their farmlands and fishing ponds with their exploration activities. Kindly read part of the story here:

News Diary: The people of Kogi State who share boundary with Anambra State where there have been lingering boundary disputes have once again disclosed that they are more concerned about access to their farmlands and fishponds and not the presence of oil as is being insinuated.

Kogi State Deputy Governor and Chairman State Boundary Commission,Yomi Awoniyi,made the disclosure at a presentation to the House of Representative Joint Committee set up to interface with parties involved in the alleged encroachment of some parts of Kogi State by Anambra State and to carry out investigation into activities of oil companies in the disputed area.

The Joint Committee meeting was sequel to a motion brought before the House and referred to the Committee’s of Petroleum Resources (upstream) and that of Special Duties.

While noting that oil was only discovered somewhere in the present day Bayelsa in 1956, disclosed that as far back as 1922, documentary evidence of colonial times showed that the first crisis between Kogi and Anambra was over the disputed areas where forest reserves under the Kabba province were being encroached upon to establish Anambra Forest reserves.

The Deputy Governor also said as far back as 1994 there were already efforts between communities in Kogi and Anambra states to use ethnographic references to resolve the areas of dispute in favor of Kogi State,said the inability for the people to access their farmlands and fishing ponds is the state’s concern and not oil. http://newsdiaryonline.com/kogi-says-tussle-with-anambra-is-over-farmlandsfishponds-not-oil/