Lexusgs430: I feel my UK knowledge & experience is now completely uploaded to this thread + more knowledgeable people, so time to take a back seat....... 😁😂
budaatum: They can't obviously teach all history, but they do teach a lot of history here, at least compared to some places. And there's always libraries and books and telly where a lot of history can be seen. There's even a whole month dedicated to Black History, so I'd even go as far as claiming quite a lot of "British colonial racist past" is taught, which really can't not be taught since some pesky kid from India or Kenya or Jamaica or Nigeria or even Ireland would raise the "British colonial racist past" as a topic in class and cause it to be discussed. And the intention of teaching about it is so students learn to not be racist and stupid now.
Below is from the history curriculum.
You mean the whitewashed history they teach in school this days. The only place they get to know the truth about their history is on social media.
budaatum: "Liberalism or advances in thought are not always guaranteed to change" anything.
Education, however, the sort of education that promotes the development and use of the mind to think and reason, does change a lot "the underlying nature of the human being" or at least that of most who are successfully educated, and the British do educate their young well.
Still, 2029 soon come. Well see then if we are as ignorant as electing Reform would suggest we are or if we've overcome the xenophobia that made us leave Europe.
Britain is not France, and the UK education system is class and it is location and it is how knowledgeable one is to know to chose it and definitely not egalitarian at all. You will however learn history whatever school you go, and be shown the ignorance of past racism and the predominant preferred attitude today.
You'd even be asked to sign up to antidiscrimination laws if you wanna work, and nothing makes people align better than hitting money in their pockets.
The closest Britain would get to Trump is Boris, I reckon.
They dont teach certain history in schools here. Especially history that talks about British colonial racist past.
AgentXxx: He has been terminated yesterday and my manager told me the reason which he didn’t tell me earlier. He slagged me to some colleagues at work using offensive words like C*** etc and those one reported to HR which is automatic termination according to HR policy. I was even pitying him before I was told his offence and I let him leave with some IT peripherals I purchased for him. He did send me a text this morning apologising. We are out looking for a replacement.
erico2k2: From my personal experience, I can tell you this for free, ,The UK employer give less attention to your certificate, They focus more on Experience cos most of your interview questions will be case studies. So how do one give answer to a case study when they don't have any personal or gone fru situation where they could use such as a case study?. Unless such job is at entry level then I don't know, PS .Some Employers even go as far as even saying things like UK experience!
Zarha and others with interview experience, i need advice on how to answer their behavior questions. Did an interview with them that didn't pan out well. I need pointers in answering their question. Are there any buzzwords to use ?
Schoolhike: Make sure you understand essential criteria very well, understand the behavioral questions to be asked, have scenarios to explain them all.
missjekyll: Is anyone else sort of hiding their face in both hands and peering in between their fingers at the goings on in France and US?
What if Marine Le Pen wins? I understand why macron called the elections but if brexit taught me anything,it's never call people's bluff. You ll always lose to the populists especially if they are racist and anti-immigration. France and Germany are the pillars of the EU.what will become of the EU?
What in the world were those 6 US supreme court judges thinking? Presidents are not kings and should not have immunity. They just validated an argument agent orange pulled out of his fundament. Can Biden fight this election?
The only consolation is the centrist government we hope to vote in on Thursday . Andrew Marr thinks that with the rest of Europe voting in freaking fascists, we will see an influx of business and cash as the only sane country in the mad mix. That's my glimmer of hope.
jedisco: Another is the cliché common in certain nations- 'we need high skilled immigrants not Bleep'. The entitlement with which its said leaves me wondering. Like immigrants are groceries on a shelf to select and pick from as need be. Who then retains the 'bad fruit'? Odd thing is that many nations brand themselves this way which manytimes flies in the face of what the do.
An economy needs the skills it lacks - be it in care, teaching, nursing, IT, masonry, drivers e.t.c I dont know of any nation that can easily absorb 1000 brain surgeons or astronauts.
P.S. this is not saying a nation should not target the skill they need but blaming poor economic outcomes on the 'quality' of immigrants they take reeks of an absurd entitlement and classism.
In a way the highly skilled worker they meant are our politicians that brings stolen funds into their economy to buy mansions and pay for their kids tuition from crèche to university.
missjekyll: Japan just released 3 immigration friendly visas. Did you know that? They ve accepted that to remain on the cutting edge,you need to let in the world.
I wouldn't advise it for any chocolate skinned person though. I hear the racism is madt.
Zahra29: I would say that governments like Italy, Hungary and the hopeful French contender, Le Pen, are right wing governments, but it's a subjective point in any case.
I do agree that this government has been too dependent for too long on cheap foreign labour. I've been saying that this model isn't sustainable, and I welcome Labour's pledge to prioritise training, mobilisation and retaining of the domestic workforce and hopefully stop the over-reliance on foreign labour. "Over reliance" being the operative word.
AgentXxx: So many suprises and I would wonder what the future of the Briton Next Generation is (Because he has many friends who are unemployed and would prefer the Universal credit and the twice a week Music Gig they get)😒
I enrolled him in a course that would let him use the Saas platforms we use in the organisation, My guy was asking me “does he have to do it?” 😂
The future is not looking bright from my lens. I pity Nigeria and other African nations. One day they might just put on their colonial 🎩 and decide to colonise us and we won’t be able to stop them.
AgentXxx: lol you guessed right. Young chap(25) been out of school for over three years, been collecting Universal credit and following a music passion where he gets 50£ for a gig that comes twice a month. First job and he seems not ready and prefers his unemployed life.
If na one of us Dey do this, na to carry am go for deliverance or ruqyah because he sure say na curse. 😂
Zahra29: Not really. It was when the ONS migration figures were released that the full scale of the levels of migration became apparent and the proverbial hit the fan.
Once again, how was the government making money from people who bought CoS and then had no jobs when they arrived in the UK and so could not pay any taxes? Unless the agencies gave the government a cut of their significant racketeering proceeds?
Zahra29: Erm do you remember when you were on the health visa thread many months ago, pleading advising people not to pay for sponsorship, citing its illegality etc and the amount of abuse you received? (I was afraid to step in and support you 😂). That is one of the ways thousands of people got in - buying CoS off the many sham agencies without even having a care job. Agents/main applicants also arranged for sham partners and dependants to be added to the applications and several thousand got in this way also. Even Sky did a report on this, the practice was common in the south Asian countries.
Boris' govt said they only expected about 40k migrants to come in via the route, in the end it was at least 5 times that amount due to the route being abused and the initial naivete and complacency of the govt (e.g not performing background checks on agencies before granting them sponsorship licenses). That's how the numbers got to where they are now and the strict policies and checks recently introduced which have led to many agencies losing their sponsorship licenses.
Were they not keeping track of the numbers of visa issued? The truth is they needed the money to stabilize their economy. They got the money but don't want the people Typical colonial tactics
AgentXxx: I informed my Manager from the start too (though informally during our 121) but I have been documenting it in a HR platform we use called Culture Amp after all of our weekly meetings but during last week meeting, another twist came in as he claims to have suffered depression and was on anti depressants for years and music is what makes him focus and he suffers mood swings which have left me clueless on how to handle his case. Mental health seems to be most excuse used in here. Wallahi, I don tire .
Let me guess, this fella is not one of us in Kendrick voice.
Zahra29: So every country that wants to control immigration is akin to Hitler? What about when Nigeria expelled the Ghanaians years ago because of fears they were taking all the jobs etc?
To the bolded, these are exactly the measures that the government has recently introduced. Students were not an issue (the Chinese have the highest proportion of students - over 300k - and they are highly valued especially as they have a reputation for attending the red bricks) until the number of dependants exploded and it became obvious what the game was. Same applies to care visas - wasn't an issue until all the fake cos and high number of dependants, some of them sham arrangements. Now that dependants in these groups have been banned, migration figures have already dropped and are forecast to fall significantly. Labour has pledged to stop NHS recruiting from red list countries such as Nigeria, Zimbabwe etc. That will effect another drop if it's implemented.
20, 10, 5 years ago, net migration was averaging 200k and that was regarded as too high. It's quite naive to think that the government and majority of the electorate would not be concerned/alarmed at recent net migration levels of 750k, especially when they estimated that a high proportion of these are "economically inactive".
Would like to see the numbers of illegal migrants.
abuhusna1: Family members would have to go back home if cos not from nhs. My friend just got his dependant visa rejected and that of his kids. Only the wife has visa sponsorship. The only mistake they made was not applying for post graduate visa before the wife switched.
What is happening - I find myself agreeing with you more often these days 🙈😂
Your comment is spot on. The reality is that the struggles and priorities of a recent immigrant are in most cases very different to that of a Brit, and this directs the type of jobs they do.
Sure, a number of Brits are work-shy, benefit scroungers etc. However many are just strategic about how and where they work. For example, it makes more financial sense for some to work part time than to pay for a child minder, after school club etc that ends up costing more than the extra hours worked. Others don't do overtime because the additional income tax erodes much of the gains made, so they instead prioritise spending time home with their family. Many won't work in care, warehouses etc because they see these jobs are too taxing especially when they can earn similar or more in a "sit down and drink lots of tea" type of job. It's not always about how hard you work, but how well/smart.
Not doing some of these jobs also gives them time to engage in jobs that require brain power.
Resurgent2016: It's not untrue generalisation. As you rightly mentioned, many of the client facing roles are brits dominated. They are typically less stressful than the backend roles, more flexible and there is a big advantage there being local
Backend roles requiring more grit, resilience and spine, the young brits are not much interested
An example - the average pay of train drivers in £60k, some even earning over £100k a year. Yet the train companies can't find enough young recruits to take up the role and the average age of train drivers is 50 years old.
Even if the train companies increase pay by 20%, I can bet you they will still struggle to find young brits willing to take the job.
You would hear them moan about the condition of the job as though those that did it years back had a better condition of service.
Even the junior doctors with average salary of 50K and two recent pay rise have stuck to a demand of 35% pay rise. Their more senior colleagues settled for what the government gave them and have moved on.
It's an inconvenient truth that the political parties would rather sweep under the carpet.
Salary is not the only the motivation to hire immigrants or people with immigrant background. Young brits are spoilt silly. and by immigrant, even people from other european countries tend to display more willingness to do the hard and dirty jobs than brits
Any business that has long and demanding role will go bust if they only can hire brits, I can bet that one
This is so accurate, the government can go ahead offer the best incentives ever, brits won’t do certain jobs. This is why doors are opened for immigrants to fill in those blanks.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:42pm On Jul 24, 2024
Typical colonial tactics
