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Yoruba in Anambra

Sccarrr:
numbers of Igbos in Ibadan can start a country....
Oya drop another lie,no be one of your governor's made free buses available from Oyo to the East just last week? 😹😹😹
https://www.nairaland.com/8587003/abians-oyo-laud-gov-alex

The number of Yoruba in Anambra too can start a country

tymicjay77:
Average northerners dnt pay for most of these charges southerner and Easterners pay reason because there transaction is mostly physical cash, also you hardly see them work to receive salaries,except the educated ones..tho,this tax will prove a bit difficult to evade but they will actually being less affect compared to southerners and Easterner

Most big businesses across the country use banks. I think many businesses will be captured both in the North and the south. BVN is low compared with NIN Around sixty million to around 120 million showing that many people especially in the North don't operate bank accounts but most people with bank accounts in the south too won't be paying anything.

Tranquillity360:
You are happy your Nigeria soldiers which included Yorubas invaded Eastern region for no reason.

There were Yorubas in both the Biafran and the Nigerian army but both the Midwest and the Midwest did not allow aggression against Biafra from their land. Awo got all Northern troops to leave the west and there were no troops at all in the Midwest. The west and Midwest had to join the federal forces with their land when Biafra invaded them. They were initially working for Biafra

The North would have seceded if not given the PM position.

There is something Igbos gain in the current Nigeria and that is a high representation in government leading to appointments, government projects and etc. Compare NW population to SE and compare the number of states. If taxes were being used to run the country then the discrepancy will become more noticeable

Tranquillity360:
Still capping rub!bish.


So Nigeria soldiers of yorubas and Hausafulanis can choose a part to attack Eastern region, but Eastern soldiers can't fight back through region of those invading them.

Moreover your claims of Midwest not allowing Nigeria to attack Eastern region from there are lies.

Awolowo from the beginning of the war was part of Nigeria and fought against Biafra because of promise to make him Nigeria president by Northerners.

Biafra army didn't invaded anyone region, they fought back soldiers invading Eastern region from North and West.


Biafra army didn't start the war, they only defended themselves.



I asked you was Nigeria soldiers that invaded Eastern region Northern soldiers or Nigeria soldiers which yoruba soldiers was fully members?

I don't know why you can't give simple answer on the above question.

You have nothing against Biafrans invading the Midwest and west when no aggression was coming against Biafra from there. I have nothing against those regions pushing back against Biafran invasion and subsequently entering Biafra to end the secession. If you choose to invade other people's land why are you surprised they drove you back? Wonders shall never end. Nigeria was never one nation and everybody consider their land sacred. You are the one capping rubbish. It is indeed very very naive to think the Biafrans would control Yoruba land with 3k soldiers. Back then Ibadan was many times bigger than Lagos and there were still other cities

Mandate1:
wetin this taxation go cause. Has there not been taxation in Nigeria before now? There's no business in Nigeria that doesn't pay tax, either to the local govt or state. But you taxing cashflow is another dimension entirely. For every increase in tax on a business, the price of the average commodity or service rendered goes up. The final consumers bear the brunt of taxation. You don't tax cashflow you tax profit.

So if my business has cashflow of 1bn, you tax the cashflow not minding I make profit or not, then at the end of the year you still tax my profit. Absurd.

They can't tax cash flow and that is why you will need an accountant as a business. Your accountant will prepare your taxes and you pay and keep receipts. The FG only have right over VAT and CIT.

Ngozi123:
It has now been revealed that the Premier of the Western Region who died alongside Ironsi was deliberately assassinated due to his alleged involvement in that coup. It is said that he personally trained many of the main players in that coup. The coup plotists had intended to put Awolowo in power. He may not have had any direct involvement but may have been involved indirectly.

Igbo people have been carrying this blame for decades and have suffered because of it. It's an injustice of the highest order.

Colonel Fajuyi was killed because he was armed and he insisted on protecting his guest. According to reports they begged him and he refused. He was outnumbered yet would not allow the arrest of General Ironsi inside government house in Ibadan. They had to shoot him to get at Ironsi.
There was competition between East, West and North and there was no way Easterners would plan a coup and put Awolowo in power. It is not done anywhere. I see that narration as an afterthought. Somebody like Obasanjo only became head of state because General Mohammed was killed in a coup.
The best way out is for all groups to work for the dissolution of the country peacefully. Then healthy competition can commence.

Ngozi123:
From what I read, Yoruba leaders including Awolowo demanded that Gowon remove all Northern soldiers from the Western Region, using the threat of secceding alongside the East if they did not get their way. Another example of using the Igbos as a buffer.

Gowon initially agreed, opting to move all Northern soldiers from Ibadan to Kwara, which was on the border to the Northern Region but later rescinded this when he declared a state of emergency in May 1967. This was before the Biafran troops had stepped foot in the Mid-Western Region.

Overall, it looks to me that Awolowo was much more involved in this issue that first thought. How did he know that the East was going to seccede if he wasn't involved in prior discussions about it?

I also think he had a hand in Nzeogwu's coup or else why would he demand the removal of Northern troops in Yoruba land? Doesn't that seem a bit paranoid to you if his hands were clean?

Northern soldiers committed a lot of atrocities in the west. They attacked Igbos and even killed the governor of the west during a coup. They only took advantage of Nigeria because the west was not their territory and we were not colonized by them. If not for Nigeria what would Northern soldiers be doing on Yoruba soil?. We have known the Hausa for centuries and they have never crossed their boundary. Those would have been the arguments advanced by Awo and Gowon obliged as the other option would be to kill Awo and he would not have been able to contain what would have followed.
How could Awo have had a hand in Nzeogwu coup? Was he in the military? He was accused of planning his own coup and the people he was accused of working with were the Ghanaians and not anybody in the Nigerian army.

Ngozi123:
So, you're saying that the Yoruba soldiers in the Nigerian army had refused to fight the Biafrans until the Biafrans had invaded the Mid-West?

Can you please provide evidence of this?

@pazienza

The Yorubas and the Midwesterners had refused assault on Biafra from their land. They asked all Northern soldiers to leave in the west and they did. Only Gowon was remaining in Lagos. There would have been Yorubas fighting Biafra from the North just like there were Yorubas in the Biafran army but Yoruba land did not allow any assault on Biafra to originate from their land and so did the midwesterners

gidgiddy:
You guys like to deceive your selves. Singapore land size is not up to the smallest state in Nigeria, Lagos. Singapore has just 6 million people, but has a GDP bigger GDP than Nigeria. The Singapore passport is the most powerful in the world and allows the holder to travel to almost 190 countries Visa free

What is the point of this your Nigeria of over 200 million people, world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth? What is the value of your Nigerian passport?

It is far better to be a small country like Singapore that is working, than to be a big country like Nigeria where nothing is working.

So what makes GDP of Singapore higher than Nigeria if not unnecessarily high cost of living? Do they eat more food, have more houses or cars or what? What they have is fake GDP

Ngozi123:
Are you saying that Yoruba soldiers had refused to fight until the Biafrans entered the West?

Soldiers from various backgrounds were stationed all over the country.

Yes that is what I am saying. There were no Northern soldiers in the west and there were no troops at all in the Midwest. The people that attacked Biafran troops in the Midwest were civilians. There were Yorubas in the Nigerian army and there were Yorubas in the Biafran army.

Justiceleague1:
You yorubas are very much complicit...your diabolic romance with this retrogressive north have also contributed immensely to the stagnated state of the country!
When other people from other tribes said exactly what this northerner said,you called them haters of the country,haters of the north...but you yorubas know it's the truth....your govs knows it hence that 2021 parley!
And see how the guy is trying to prove so hard that he's actually a northerner because he knows people like you and others aswani dotherightthing roger3d softmirror maasoap martincorridon blackpantherxxx burob elsudani will definitely call him and impostor and Ipob...
God will save us from betrayers

The western Igbos fought Britain for over thirty years over land and the British did not accuse them of betrayal. Why do you accuse the Yoruba of betrayal because they defended their land from Biafra?

Jim

Justiceleague1:
You yorubas are very much complicit...your diabolic romance with this retrogressive north have also contributed immensely to the stagnated state of the country!
When other people from other tribes said exactly what this northerner said,you called them haters of the country,haters of the north...but you yorubas know it's the truth....your govs knows it hence that 2021 parley!

The western Igbos fought Britain for over thirty years and the British did not accuse them of betrayal. Land is sacred. Why do you accuse the Yoruba of betrayal because they defended their land from Biafran invasion?
And see how the guy is trying to prove so hard that he's actually a northerner because he knows people like you and others aswani dotherightthing roger3d softmirror maasoap martincorridon blackpantherxxx burob elsudani will definitely call him and impostor and Ipob...
God will save us from betrayers

Christlike01:
Would there have been a civil war if Mr. Azikiwe had not stupidly opposed the secession clause in the Constitution as proposed by Chief Awolowo? Believe it or not, the faulty foundation laid by the likes of Ironsi, Azikiwe, Ojukwu, Nzeogwu, and others is what Nigeria is still standing on to this day. You will understand all of this the moment you stop allowing emotion to rule over you.

I believe there would still have been a civil war. The civil war was largely because the Gowon coup was not successful in the East. The Gowon government created a state for the eastern minorities and Ojukwu did not recognize it. That led to the civil war but even without that other things would have led to it

Tranquillity360:
You dey cap nonse!nse and lies told you by your parents.




Answer the the two questions below 👇 👇


Was it Nigeria soldiers that attacked and invaded Eastern region or Hausafulanis soldiers?

Was Yorubas part of Nigeria soldiers?

Nigeria was attacking Biafra from the North and the Midwest and west did not allow Nigerian soldiers to operate from their land. Col Ejoor clearly stated that he will not allow aggression against Biafra to pass through the Midwest. Awo made sure all Northern soldiers vacated the west.
Biafra should have focussed on the North and not on declaring the Midwest republic and invading Yoruba land. Even civilians in the Midwest attacked Biafran soldiers and to have expected the Yoruba to submit to 3000 Biafrans is rather strange. Again Awo was not against Biafra but was against the Biafrans colonizing the west. If you were him would you have submitted your land to Biafra? If you were the Midwesterners would you have done the same?

Any Yoruba fighting Biafra from the North. That was his business. There were Yorubas fighting for Biafra.

Tranquillity360:
Tr!ash.


So Zik opinion was greater than that of your awolowo and those of leaders the north.



1967 when their is second chance for that what did your awolowo do?


Since over 50 years Yorubas and Hausafulanis are ruling, what stop them from doing the right?

Even from the screenshot you posted, you failed to mention the stand of your British master and the owner of Nigeria.

The Yoruba and Awolowo have never and will never been against Biafran independence but in 1967 they had to defend their land from Biafran invasion. They were not going to go from British to Biafran colonialism. Stop expecting people to have taken something you never would have taken

Wages in Nigeria are less than ten percent of what is obtainable in western Europe so things should be cheaper here because of cheap labor. Beer in Nigeria is maybe ten percent of the price in Britain

Tranquillity360:
But was not against Nigeria soldiers which comprised of Yoruba and Northern soldiers to invade East?

Biafrans invaded the west and Midwest and they pushed back which resulted in the invasion of Biafra. Prior to that they refused their land to be used to invade Biafra and there were no Northern soldiers in the west or Midwest. Nigeria was only attacking Biafra from the North. Do you expect the west and Midwest to submit to Biafra without a fight? Put yourself in their shoes

gidgiddy:
Better to be a small country of 6 million people like Singapore that has a larger GDP than Nigeria

Its about quality of life, not population

That GDP is because of high cost of living. There is nothing Singapore has more than Nigeria but when your per Capita income is more than 100k dollars then your GDP will be large but the size is fake. In Nigeria today a GDP per Capita of 3k dollars will mean the country is doing very well because that will be 15k dollars a year for the average family of five and that is enough in Nigeria

manuelkel:
When was our last census conducted? I'm sure this Nigerian stats is based on estimation and approximations.
Nigeria inhabit up to 300M citizens if you check well.

NIN is around 120 million. BVN is around sixty million or so

writeprof:
How many Northerners do you think have bank accounts? Find out the number of branches of notable banks in the north...not Abuja, Kano, and Kaduna.

PBAT policies are primarily to milk the South more than the North.

Talk of electricity bill increment...How many places do you think they pay for electricity in the North? For one whole year as a corper we didn't see any one come to give electricity bill or talk about light why there was light.

Yes total BVN in Nigeria is strangely low but the people who have accounts will pay. There are hotels and banks in the North and farmers who sell over twenty million naira a year. The taxation is targeted towards those who use banks

coputa:
Don't you know people can boycott bank transaction,infact people are removing their monies from the banks now

Big businesses can't operate outside the bank. Even a farmer selling twenty million naira a year can't operate outside the bank

Goodmarlian:
But the same awolowo was against the civil war whose aim was to break the same Nigeria he never wanted as a single entity isnt that double standards forget he is a hypocrite.

Wrong history. Awo was only against Biafra invading the west.

The right thing is to allow community policing including state and local governments

wirinet:
And how will that work? Do you propose splitting the country along pre amalgamation lines, or pre independent lines?

All ethnic groups have right over their lands. What is pre amalgamation line? All regions were British constructs

Typing:
True talk. Let Bayo Onanuga and other Southeners pay the tax. Count us out

For example how can an account turning over one hundred million naira a year avoid tax if government wants to make it pay? Such an account can not avoid the tax. Those who can avoid tax are small holders. Then start paying tax now because dependence on oil can not last forever and Nigeria can break up anytime

Everybody will pay. Nobody can avoid it. It is good to start paying now in preparation for breakup which will eventually happen

When Nigeria breaks up, the North will need to do catching up with the west and with the right leadership they will catch up.

Is it a good thing for a country as big as Nigeria to be dependent on like 2 million bpd of oil? No. By the end of the first quarter of 2026 like 70 percent if not more of government revenue will be from non oil sources. That will be a good development and a step in the right direction. Then the new tax law has not increased VAT. It is still 7.5 percent

How can Turkey help? They are too far away. Only the US can help attack the bandits