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It looks like the Airforce($579m) and army($501m, NAFEX rate) are getting the lion share

GabrielYulaw:
Again, it is not that simple. First, the subsidy you are talking about should not exist in the first place. Any chemical or petroleum engineering graduate or anyone with access to YouTube should know how to refine crude in his backyard. So, with that being the case, there's not supposed to be any subsidy at all because we supposed to have at least 10 refineries scattered around the country and be exporting refined crude.

As for the NEPA issue, I am not that knowledgeable about it. But listen, when we packed in to this house we are occupying, we used to pay 4K monthly in NEPA bills. It's been 4 years since we moved in and at the present time we are supposed to be paying 17k to 20k monthly, all in estimated billing. Our landlord has already ordered a prepaid meter since 4 years ago, but it has never been delivered. And bear in mind that the government said prepaid meters are supposed to be free, but I don't know anyone that got theirs free.

Of course, It is not in the interest of NEAP for people to get prepaid meters, cos that would reduce what they extort in estimated billing, And it is not even like light is constant, but at the end of the month, you better cough up whatever figures NEPA cook up or get disconnected. I spend at least 5K weekly fueling our gen and that is 20K monthly at least. I would gladly pay 20-30K monthly if that assures 24/7 power, but that is not possible in this Nigeria is it?

Let me ask you, if the electricity tariff is tripled right now will that guarantee 24/7 power all over the country? I don't think so. What that means is that NEPA problem is less about poor tariffs and more about stupid incompetence, intentional cruelty, corruption, gross avarice and unadulterated madness. We have been independent for 60 plus years and yet few places can boast of uninterrupted power supply. I lack words to describe the shame of this and the toll it takes on our overall economy.

As for the bloat in the civil service, eliminating it is something that has to be done. But before the FG can begin cut off the dead woods in the civil service let it first heavily slash its own expenses. I remember Buhari budgeting 80 million this or last year just to cut his hair. Can he in good conscience do that and then turn around to say that the civil service is inefficient and bloated? And there he is budgeting one or two billion yearly on feeding the people in Aso Rock. Na gold and silver dipped in the elixir or immortality them dey chop?
I just tire.

The CBN has released ₦64bn out of the ₦100bn to discos for the purchase of 6 million prepaid meters

https://dailytrust.com/amp/n64-8bn-cbn-bailout-restores-905mw-electricity

Now, that shouldn't even happen at all, as PHCN was sold to private entities, as a business they should invest a part of the profits they make on the business, but that can't happen because of subsidies.

every year they run at a loss, after this exercise which should last for about 2 years FG's directive is that they shouldn't bill you if you haven't had a prepaid meter installed on your premise.



https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/396838-just-in-nerc-sets-date-for-no-electricity-meter-no-disconnection-policy.html

lebuhsi:
would our Socialist labour unions allow us to cut the civil service? last year, Buhari's regime wanted to inplemement the Oransanye report, what did the NLC and others do?

we remove subsidies for a bit when oil prices went down when it started climbing and the price of petrol increased by default, didn't the labour unions threaten fire and brimstone?


Nigerians are not ready to enjoy the dividends of democracy because we don't know what we want.


look Electricity is, for instance, Gencos can generate 5,000MW of power how much power can Discos distribute?

For years they have been relying solely on FG bailouts when they need liquidity because Nigerians are not paying what they are supposed to pay for the power they consume.

Discos need to pay Transco, and Transco needs to pay Gencos, when the supply of money is not coming because bailouts come late, what do you think would happen across the Value-chain?

When FG wanted to raise tariff rates a bit so Discos can have the liquidity to upgrade their networks, buy spares etc and improve their service delivery, what did the labour unions say?

we can't have it both ways, electricity, petrol are services, if you want these services rendered, you have to pay for them

we do have chronic tax linkage, especially on the sub-national levels.

look at state budgets and you'll weep, some states have 90% of their budgets dedicated to recurrent expenditure, with over 70% of projected revenue expected from FAAC allocations, they basically just pay salaries.

Growth & development comes from sub-national levels.

It's not really about autonomy, it's fiscal independence, only 1 state has that. Lagos charts it's own policies on healthcare, infrastructure etc. Lagos even operates and funds it's own police force without any hiccups.

There's a clamour for state policing, how many states can fund a police service?

primary health care is the state government's jurisdiction, for instance, FG has to take over that responsibility because most states can't meet their obligations.

GabrielYulaw:
We don't have a revenue problem, we have a transparency problem. What percentage of all taxes collected actually make its way to the government? 60%? 40%? And of this percentage that makes its way into government coffers how much actually gets utilized for what its meant for?

And do you think it's fair to ask a business man who has one or more generators in his shop, vigilante for security that he pays out of his own pocket, borehole for water and who has contributed money along with his colleagues in the same locale to tar the road to pay multiple taxes to the government?

Taxes are supposed to be used for development, but here they are mostly used for funding spending trips to Dubai by the elite. Do people in the Ghana or South Africa that you mentioned normally act as their own government by providing amenities for themselves? I doubt it.

And we are the poverty capital of the world, remember? Impoverishing people and then asking more of them to pay taxes to develop the country does not sit well with me. And even if the tax base is expanded as you say, what guarantee is there that most of what's collected won't just disappear into thin air?

I think money needed to really develop this country can be gotten by cutting down on government expenses. I'm talking 100k monthly for legislators and ministers, with nothing like allowances. Waste can also be reduced by modernizing the civil service. For fks sake why in this 21st century do we have something like messengers and why would 20 people be employed to do the work of 2 people?

Massive reform and trimming of government fat is needed I don't see it happening in this century. As for the subsidy thing, strength no reach to talk about it.

PS: a few years ago there was an outcry about plans by the FIRS to use like 200 Million naira to sew uniform for a few hundred workers. The people in charge of collecting tax wan use that kind money just to sew cloth and you think broadening the tax base is the solution to our woes? Nope. A very very very very thorough cleaning of the Augean stable is required.

would our Socialist labour unions allow us to cut the civil service? last year, Buhari's regime wanted to inplemement the Oransanye report, what did the NLC and others do?

we remove subsidies for a bit when oil prices went down when it started climbing and the price of petrol increased by default, didn't the labour unions threaten fire and brimstone?


Nigerians are not ready to enjoy the dividends of democracy because we don't know what we want.


look Electricity is, for instance, Gencos can generate 5,000MW of power how much power can Discos distribute?

For years they have been relying solely on FG bailouts when they need liquidity because Nigerians are not paying what they are supposed to pay for the power they consume.

Discos need to pay Transco, and Transco needs to pay Gencos, when the supply of money is not coming because bailouts come late, what do you think would happen across the Value-chain?

When FG wanted to raise tariff rates a bit so Discos can have the liquidity to upgrade their networks, buy spares etc and improve their service delivery, what did the labour unions say?

we can't have it both ways, electricity, petrol are services, if you want these services rendered, you have to pay for them

GabrielYulaw:
I don't think we as a country are gonna get rich and become like Dubai once more of us start paying tax. It's not that simple.

First, consider the fact that there are businesses in states like Lagos that pay from 30-50 different legal and illegal taxes every year to the federal, state, and local government, plus to agberos, Mami water, and what have you. I would say most businesses are already overtaxed as it is.

Plus the the tax collected from businesses and people too either disappear into private pockets or are embezzled by those in power. All the tax money that has been collected from us all compare what has been done with it to what could have been done with it.

Out there in markets, people making maybe 500 naira to 1k gross profit daily get mercilessly taxed. I'm talking about women with small basins of soap or okro who sit by the roadside and pay multiple taxes daily to touts and the local government just for the privilege of selling in the market. Seeing this kind of thing always makes me furious. Taxing the most poor and vulnerable among us is pure madness.

Second, businesses these days provide their own electricity, water, security and general amenities. They essentially do the work the government is supposed to be doing with the tax money it collects and in the end get taxed with nothing to show for it. That's total madness and cannot ever make sense to me.

Part of the reason prices is so high in Naija is the number of legal and illegal taxes out there that businesses are made to pay, which get factored into the price of what they are selling. Enter Keke for example and see how much the drivers pay in tax to the police, local government, touts, and everyone but Santa Claus.

So, saying we only need to pay more tax to become an advanced society makes zero sense to me. What's needed is a total reform of everything in this country. And that includes our brains, cos sometimes I'm not sure we are in our right senses, no offence meant.

Edit: It's okay not to agree or be insulted by the last sentence. I apologise. But just spend a day in a place like Lagos and I'm sure you will understand what I mean.

Nigerians don't need to pay more taxes in my opinion, what the FIRS and other revenue collecting agencies need to do is broaden the tax net.

Nigeria has a tax to GPD ratio of 6.3%, which's a travesty for a country our size.

look at our peers for instance say S.africa which stands at 30%, Ghana at 14% etc

Nigeria has a revenue problem, not a debt problem. If we can get even 20% as tax to GPD, it would greatly improve capital spend without the risk of expanding our debt and debt servicing obligations.

The State constitutes a big chunk of capital spending, but over the years recurrent expenditure has trumped capital expenditure due to low revenue collection and quite frankly stupidity, with the infrastructural deficit we have, we should not be spending ₦1trn every year paying subsidies that are only for PMS alone, the figures for electricity is outrageous.

some years we spend 70% of our budget on recurrent items.

Ghana with a lower GPD per capita than us operates a fully deregulated downstream sector, why the hell can't we?


We should pay more taxes, we should stop shouting "democracy" while at the same time clamour for a pseudo-socialist state.

joscofelix2:
you want make bubu teach you in the langage wey you go understand ni

Na hastag we go use, no be fight

Xbee007:
We need to stage a protest.

NAF Bring Back our Videos.

No be lie

lebuhsi:
I just de fear say birds wey de on ground go de overworked.

PDMs of those F-7s are still ongoing, so the A-jets, L-39s, and MI-35M/ps are always on rotation.

Let's use the supplementary budget to get our remaining sky hawks please, even if na 3

The A-29s would taste blood, earliest by Next month.

CAS go sweet oh, Make DHQ bring back our videos

SamuelAnyawu:
I think the NAF response time has improved a lot. Even small checkpoints once they call for air support bird don show sharply.

I just de fear say birds wey de on ground go de overworked.

PDMs of those F-7s are still ongoing, so the A-jets, L-39s, and MI-35M/Ps are always on rotation.

Let's use the supplementary budget to get our remaining sky hawks please, even if na 3

EricBraven:
Seems they are feeling the heat from this offensive

For people that can still access Twitter, look at the number of child fighters in their ranks, Attrition is really hitting them hard.

https://twitter.com/ottotgs/status/1411726573007478788?s=19

I de really feel for Kanuris, the future of at least 3 generations is totally lost in this madness.

BREAKING: ISWAP/JAS REAPPOINTS NEW LEADER


The new jihadist coalition formed between the the so-called Islamic State of West Africa Province (ISWAP ) and old members of Boko Haram JAS faction has a new leader.



Sources confirmed that Amir Abbah Gana aka Ba-Lawan was reappointed by ISIS core to lead the coalition that emerged from rival JAS fighters who recently pledged allegiance to ISIS Core under the leadership of Abu Ibrahim Al-Qurashi.


New commanders selected from both factions were also appointed days after the Nigerian army launched successful operations against the jihadist sect in Northern Nigeria.

The new appointments were spearheaded by the Interim Council of the ISWAP-Boko Haram terrorists’ group, headed by one Abu Mus’ab Al-Barnawi. Sources say the loss of key commanders from military air strikes precipitated the jihadist group to quickly réorganise it’s leadership structure which has been under suspension for months.

ISWAP restructuring is reported to be in line with a recent directive from ISIS Headquarters in Iraq.


Read more>>>> https://eonsintelligence.com/details/601137928/breaking-iswap-jas-reappoints-new-leader-2115060070

DubaiLandLord:
Why is shura arab babes a big man thing? What's special about them wey be say they are only meant for big man

No be so

SamuelAnyawu:
It’s fine if it’s Gusau. Most NGOs have gotten funding towards that axis. My organization self wanna deploy me there, but I heard no be happening town (If you know what I mean )

When renting a house in Gusau Abeg look for where NGO or bankers stay. Please never stay close to the entry points. I once saw a cheap house in Maiduguri entrance from Damboa, I didn’t stay up to 5months after a Boko attack. I coughed out better money go stay Old GRA.

I’m still considering relocating there shaa as I’m in a deep field location and not Maiduguri.

Well go check that side if the coast clear and there are good babes and alcohol I might ditch my deep field. Tho it will cost me more as I’ll miss my Shuwa Arab babe here

Shuwa Arab babe, Big man thing.

No wonder you no de reason relocation, something must kee a man

joscofelix2:
over 30-35 iswap dead 3 guntruck captured

Nice heads up, Oga Josco

DubaiLandLord:
Everybody that have read about the US military sabi all these things una dey talk.

Make una just stop comparing US war in Afghanistan to that of Nigeria war in the North East. We can't take on the Taliban's like the Americans did.

The Taliban is not a terrorist organization like ISWAP, they were the ones that defeated the Warlords and united Afghanistan. They were the legitimate Government before the Americans kicked their ass and the Pakistanis are still supporting them as you dey read wetin I dey type.

Baba, wetin you de even argue sef?

NA v BH, American forces v the Taliban.

What good is it when you win a battle and lose the war? The Americans have practically admitted defeat by redrawing their troops

DubaiLandLord:
Can the Nigerian military fight in a far distance country like the US military is doing? Nigeria have been struggling at her backyard for years, you're here using the war the Americans are fighting in far away Afghanistan to console yourself

Abeg make una stop this comparison jawe

Is just like comparing Milo to peak milk

The Taliban were in control of Afghanistan before the Americans came in.

As Toju said, the Americans can move major resources and equipment to your doorstep within a matter of hours, seamless logistics could be supported not only by their strategic bases near you but also by aircraft carriers and other naval assets.

so, "far away Afghanistan" isn't far away at all by American standards.

the equipment the Americans have over in Afghanistan alone is more the total equipment in the stocks of the Nigerian armed forces, serviceable or not.

lionel4power:
Lol you don't need to drop email.

Anyway, you're the highest ranking forum member so far. Even higher than myself

I just confirmed this

Thanks boss!

Mumu De find quote shey na here you de chop?

BlackBaron:
We are talking home turf.

How many of these groups are attacking FOB, Police stations and so.

Organised crime exists in most countries, some worse than others but we've not heard overrunning outpost or police stations without swift responses.

Gangs and so, surely aren't going to be poking a bear in the face cos they know what happens next. Let's not start polishing our failures to deal BH a bloody nose as a phyric victory cos Uncle Sam or others failed to defeat hostile forces in a different country.

Write something better, still a foreign territory.
They also failed in Vietnam. Show me a brigade, company sized group effectively a mini state inside the countries controlling swathes of space like the terrorist groups here.

Since we were talking about Afghanistan, more than10 years after the declaration of the War on terror, and hundreds of billions of $ spent, the Taliban still controls more than 60% of Afghanistan, their territory keeps expanding everyday on account of the recent losses suffered by Afghani troops.

America's war on terror has been a colossal failure in Afghanistan.


We have been able to roll back BH and contain them, the insurgency in it's closing phase, this phase could that years if not decades as we can't simply kill them all, the ideology has to die first.

lionel4power:
Welcome to your new rank oga!!

I didn't drop my Email address, how did you identify me?

AskiaHarem:
Exactly some Africans Fetishize Westerners and see them as gods with no fault. I dropped an innocent critic of the Western lead war against the Taliban & American domestic issues and you how fast they came out to defend there masters/gods? Pathetic and embarrassing.
African for ever behaving like naive, complacent, and credulous Betas

The Americans pride themselves of being invisible, having not lost any war.

But, they and their NATO allies have lost this one.

The British were the first, then the Soviets, now the Americans, Afghanistan prides itself as a country too that has never lost any wars, thus the paradox.


Losing to some rags heads, with Ak-47s and dirty sandals, when you have seemingly unlimited resources would always be a shocker to all the "hot-heads" both bureaucrats and politicians in Washington

Their misadventure in Afghanistan would teach them something atleast!

"keep your damn d*ck, in your pants! It's not always a pissing contest!"

lionel4power:
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Oga mi

BlackBaron:
Ah, this same tired analogy all over again. Troops operating in a foreign country with limited knowledge of local norms and customs versus local army fighting in his territory. Didn't Buratai once declare Sambisa was cleared.

Tell us how many terrorist groups are operating in those countries controlling large expanse of land, killing and testing army bases every fortnight.

Logic escapes some of you here.

$1trn down the shitter, and over ten years fighting the Taliban without success tells a different story

cutievik:
You dey undergo press training...I see you Mass communication student

Omo x10

Senior Special Adviser, Mass casting affairs

Illumined939:
Even the cameroonian soldiers dare not come to the place I'm domiciled. They know they won't return alive. The boys are being trained,
and will soon be unleashed to send your soldiers 6ft under.
Will you come, so I dash you some Cameroon toto?
Cameroon Toto sweet o

you forget that when you started ranting, you uploaded your photo on your profile, a lot of people have it I'm sure, you are not Anonymous

joscofelix2:
they is a new unit in the battlefied this guy have being bleep the ass of iswap.this guy are different from 72 st/sf.i think afsf is back up to 5o iswap dead in airstrike and miliary mop up

The new SF unit I can independently confirm, I didn't want to say anything so I don't compromise on their safety.

They moved from Buni Yadi last week to rotate the SF units in the theatre, please put them in your prayers guys.

If the story of him been caught in Cameroon turns out to be true

PMB be like : Eh Mr Paul, about that favour you owed me

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.africanews.com/amp/2018/01/29/cameroon-receives-ambazonia-leader-46-others-deported-from-nigeria/

"Desert Warfare" why is English so hard for you guys?!

komekn:
It's not irrational it is not entirely implausible.

Because this government is thrives on blatant impunity and bare faced lies.

Add to that the most important unit of measurement for capacity and competence is perceived loyalty to the regime. Which in itself is anchored on tribalism, nepotism and religious affiliation.

Finally, the President is the commander in chief and executive head of the nation. It's his responsibility to ensure compliance, he had oversight.

Essentially the BUCK STOPS WITH PMB there is no excuse or evasion.

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youghs:
I don't think this is correct. Probably just an estimate. Our daily consumption is 52million upward, I even saw a report a while ago saying it has gotten to 95million litres per day.

This is from the DPR brother, although I'd have to admit, the data is from 2016

I found something more recent

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2020/02/nigeria-consumes-38-2m-litres-of-petrol-daily-dpr/amp/

Still roughly the same.

youghs:
The main advantage of local production is job creation and reasonable rate of inflation, local production doesn't necessarily reduce price but stabilises inflation rate.

For instance, compare the percentage change in the price of cement from 2003 till 2021 Vs %change in the price of Rice during the same timeframe, you'll see a very huge gap.

If we have been refining PMS since 2003, I'm sure the price of PMS will not even be close to 100naira per litre today.

Dangote refinery isn't going to end importation tho as it cannot meet total demand. But if we can secure the borders and end smuggling, it will be able to meet total demand.

It can and will meet local demand atleast X2 over, Nigeria's consumption of energy a day(including smuggling) is 428,000 barrels per day (B/d), with PMS consumption of 38,200,000ltrs

https://www.dpr.gov.ng/national-fuel-situation-status-report/


Dangote's refinery is a 650,000b/d refinery, 53% of refining would be dedicated to PMS

That is 7.51billion litres a year, do the maths

https://nairametrics.com/2019/08/01/petrol-to-gulp-53-of-dangote-refinerys-daily-production/

DubaiLandLord:
I believe all the states in Nigeria should be connected first before we start connecting other countries.

Or will Niger be funding the railway lines in their country themselves?

I do so too, but it's not like the FG is spending any money to build the railway to Niger Rep.

There is an original plan to build a standard gauge railway from Lagos to Kano, the Abuja - Kaduna, Lagos - Ibadan sections being completed are part of the route.

Maradi - Kano railway would be funded by banks from Europe facilitated by the company carrying out the project, Mota Engil.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/443294-german-banks-eu-agencies-to-fund-kano-maradi-railway-ambassador-tuggar.html

Also kicking-off this year would be the rehabilitation of the Eastern railway corridor, from Port Harcourt to Maiduguri.

The commencement of the Coastal railway has majorly been held off by ferocious local opposition to Chinese equity, Ameachi even complained bitterly about this

https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/news/nigeria-has-been-waiting-year-53bn-chinese-loan-ra/


But there are talks of getting the loan from a Western bank instead, https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-10/nigeria-taps-stanchart-to-replace-china-loans-for-rail-projects

negotiations could take years and cause delay, politicians are very stupid.