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milehigh06: I have read with total shock and disbelief what Nigerians have been saying on this forum with regards to Ebola Virus,Nano Silver and The USA
What I find rather dis-heartening is Nigerians actually calling America names for choosing to send the Ampoules of ZMap they had to Liberia,Ghana and Guinea and when it became public knowledge that they had just 12 Ampoules and decided to send them to Countries with a greater level of urgency,people still went ahead to call America names.
Then came Nano Silver...hmmmmm have we actually thought out the fact that Nano Silver was developed in America by an American?We have Nigerians already claiming Nano Silver is a Nigerian drug and once USA came out against it,they resorted to what best they know,calling USA names without even doing any sort of research to know more about Nano Silver..How can an American develop a (drug) in an American lab but we in our infinite wisdom believe America does not want us to have the drugs because it was made by a Nigerian(false)

Learn about Nano Silver
By every description, Dr. Rima Laibow is controversial and combative. The American doctor ─ who said she has a cure for the Ebola virus disease and whose treatment is now made available to Nigeria by an unnamed donor ─ has been campaigning against the “conspiracy” of conventional drug makers. You guessed right ─ she is into “natural solutions”, or what is better known as alternative medicine. She sells things like “hemp oil” and “organic chocolate” as cure for illnesses. In fact, Nano Silver, which arrived Nigeria on Thursday, is not classified as a drug, because it is not so certified by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ─ the American equivalent of NAFDAC.

Read more at: http://www.thecable.ng/the-controversial-woman-behind-nano-silver-the-new-ebola-drug-being-tried-in-nigeria | TheCable

and then we had the ones running up and down asking people to have a bath in salty warm water...lmaooooo...wow!!!!actually,i know of a friend who said his mom called his brothers to even read fatih 10 times before taking the bath...wow!!!!

I am not trying to ridicule my country for I have no where but Nigeria to run to at the end of the day but when we have people who basically act like the leaders we vote for then you know some serious issues and also realize that regardless of who rules this country,we will get the same results

Thank you. Even though this story has been brought to everybody's attention a number of time, there still seems to be too much ignorance and unfounded hatred floating around. Dr. Rima Laibow's claims are indeed fraudulent (https://www.nairaland.com/1866693/ebola-fraud-nanosilver-lies-dr), but whatever one says it will never make a few numbskulls read and understand what they are reading. btw nanosilver was NOT developed by Dr. Fraud either. It has been around for many years as a surface desinfectant, pesticide etc.

lrguru: Since this drug is not from a black man/ Nigeria, the americans won't call it pesticide....smh. Anyways I don't blame them, I blame our MOH who only believes that a Nigerian can never find any cure to any disease.

I only pray this drug works and I also hope it does not have any electrical component inside o, cos japanese technology is electronically wonderful. We don't want any of the recovered victim to be operated with remote control

Nanosilver was NOT developed by a black man. Didn't you follow any updates about it? It was promoted (but also not developed) by US company that propagates bogus cures and hysterical conspiracy theories for everything

Libkid: bro lets take it dis way.they(white ppl)said dat ebola has bin in existence since 1976 right.my question is why has'nt d virus bin able to wipe out everyone since then since there were no cure then.there are some states in nigeria dat eat bat.why has'nt it killed them since.bro the fact is dat since they knew that ebola virus killed in same way as their new virus they linked the deadly virus to african origin.the 100 is a movie dat wil unravel d truth for ya.

Please do not get your "information" from movies. ebola has not eradicated everbody since then because
1) most outbreaks occured in very remote areas in which it was easier to contain it. It probably also helped that people learned about it eventually and started to recognize it early and then react appropriately rather than running away from isolation centers or looting them out of ignorance . Also keep in mind that ebola has not occurred in West Africa before. That's why it was spreading for several weeks before it was even recognized as what it is (bad start). That it DOES occur in WA now, however, does !!!NOT!!! mean it is new, manmade or a weapon. It has simply spread there as viruses tend to do.
2) ebola is NOT very contagious and oubreaks CAN be controlled efficiently and they have been so far
3) not everybody who gets infected dies. Around 50% in this current outbreak SURVIVE (and NO, it is NOT due to any secret magic cure)
4) while ebola is a zoonotic disease (one that jumps to humans from animals) this does NOT happen every time someone eats a bat!! It's a RARE occurrence. Furthermore NOT every bad carries ebola.
5) this is NOT a "new" virus. However, viruses mutate. It's just what they do. You'd have reason to believe it was manmade if it did NOT mutate (refer to article below).
6) what has it got to do with any facts whether or not the person who said something is "white"? Did you even READ the original post in this thread? If you did you would have seen that many of the co-authors of the newest study are NOT white. Authors and abstract of their study here: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2014/08/27/science.1259657

Here is a also a new useful article from a CREDIBLE source http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6200/989.full.pdf

KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SPREAD OF EBOLA WHEN YOU SPREAD UNFOUNDED CONSPIRACY THEORIES. If people mistrust hospitals, quarantine/isolation centres etc. for using them as "lab rats" and such bullshit, guess what they'll do? Most likely run away and spread it to 50 more people.

why is it so popular to ALWAYS point fingers. Shouldn't we instead complain that naija needs donations at all? Don't you agree that we should not only have a functioning country but also certainly be able to do this all on our own? Let me just remind you of the 50 BILLION $ not accounted for recently? Let me also remind you that this was not the only time billions and billions have "vanished". Billions that were STOLEN from the Nigerian people. You know and I know what the real problem is. Please stop blaming the US for everything our leader thieves are to blame for!

Good evening all
Only few here seem to be willing to EDUCATE themselves. Instead you "believe" this or that, or are of this or that "opinion". Based on what? The only thing all these idiotic conspiracy theories are based on is your laziness to educate yourself. Yes, laziness. It DOES take an effort to read through a few facts, true. It's a lot easier and maybe more exciting to smell foul play in everything and spread paranoia.
I'm not even going to start giving any facts here. I have tried before. Nobody reads it.

[b]Let me just tell you this. IF you prefer to believe those hysterical, paranoid AMERICAN (oooh the irony!!) sites that are the origin of all this misinformation, then please DO IT RIGHT. If you follow these conspiracy theories, as a logical result you MUST
- never again take any modern medicine because it will invariably be developed by "evil scientists"
- never again go to a hospital when you are sick because all that is also developed by "evil scientists"
- never again complain when your children die of preventable diseases after your laziness made you believe that science and modern medicine is evil
- in fact you should also stop using the computer you're using as well as the internet. Same for cars, airplanes, television.... They were developed by "evil scientists".
- and most importantly: never, ever demand for an ebola cure or vaccine again, because it will invariably be developed by "evil scientists".
- live with the potentially disastrous results of everybody's laziness and ignorance, but then DO NOT COMPLAIN.[/b]

And now PLEASE, read the facts instead of listening to a few hysterical Americans (btw there are several of them spreading their bullshit on Nairaland).

mags5222: Why are all your post derailments? You can never stay on topic regarding my post. If anything you come off as ignorant close minded and rather stup*d.

I clearly have never been anywhere else? LOL speak for yourself because you don't even know whats going on in your own homeland. You can't tell me that I'm ignorant and I've never been anywhere when you have shown yourself to be what you accused me of. You don't need any medical qualification to know about health and diet. You must be one of those Nigerians that became Christian or Muslim. I'm still trying to figure out if your first sentence is based on sarcasm. As stated Polio used to affect Americans until it was eradicated.

little do you know

mags5222: LOL look at this weak idiot. What does being a doctor have to do with simple freaking protocol? Paranoid bull? welp i wish this was the case but it isn't. The funny thing is you again can't disprove anything that I've stated. haha. But what can i say? You're a sheep that only knows how to follow rather than lead.

Cripples? I wouldn't know since people have access to a pretty decent diet there for certain illness that used to plague people are eradicated. Altho I do feel sympathy for the cripples, this is something that used to plague AA because of the environment in the US.

yeah you certainly wouldn't know any of this because there are no polio cripples crawling on the streets in the US. I can't even blame you for your ignorance since you have clearly never been anywhere else. It's just that you don't have the qualification to talk about any medical topic, and yet you do.

Nairalanders, I just want to make you aware that we have a number of Americans on this forum who are aggressively spreading mad conspiracy theories about ebola (for example here https://www.nairaland.com/1841203/ebola-lab-engineered-disease read the full thread please to see what I mean). While they claim that their motivation is good (they want to "help" us), their theories are crap. They are fanatics and obsessed with their conspiracy theories. Their theories are 100% UNFOUNDED even though they claim to be in possession of the ultimate truth. They often sound like raving lunatics, but sometimes the things they say could certainly mislead gullible people to believe them. They tend to quote various incidents from the past that they connect to the ebola outbreak even though there is absolutely no connection. In their statements it becomes very clear that they actually know NOTHING. They just want to see an evil conspiracy in absolutely everything.
They don't seem to understand that they are putting lives at risk with the shit they are promoting. Futhermore I have seen too many racist statements from them to believe that their intentions are good. Even if their intentions ARE good they are still misleading people because their theories are UNFOUNDED no matter how much they believe in them.
I'm asking you all to carefully check the facts before you believe anything. Let's use common sense please. NOT EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY!

mags5222: Your response is overly emotional but this is no surprise because you have shown how stup*d you are. In south Africa just what 30 years ago? There were mass vaccinations. The Bill Gates foundation right now has set up a vaccination program for black women men and children, birth control also. LOL you are too dumb. Polio cripples? Majority of illness can be prevented through simple diet sanitation and plenty of Vit D

yeah sure. Now you are a doctor I guess? Keep bringing out your paranoid bullshit with no evidence, and please go tell the cripples crawling on the streets, you heartless jerk.

mags5222: You didn't make a point person because you're unintelligent. Do you realize that because of the spread of this socalled ebola right now, that they are talking about brining in vaccines?. But you don't have a clue about that right?? You're a simpleton. When an epidemic happens they will do anything to curb the epidemic rather medication or vaccination. This is a fact.

well you dumbass clearly don't have even a 1% clue about the way things function or rather often don't function in West Africa. Good luck enforcing any vaccination in these countries. And btw maybe you should go tell the polio cripples at every major street in Nigeria about how evil vaccinations are. Seriously you are just a massive a**hole with zero understanding or empathy

mags5222: You really are this simple? What happens to other places in Africa that has epidemics? Hell when there is an epidemic anywhere what happens? You can't be this simple minded. All it takes for people to get sick in order for the leaders to bring Vaccines inside the country. Come on? You're probably older than me.

great explanation. Thanks for proving my point. F**ng dimwit

mags5222: LOL of course you can't even figure out the simplest of things so you need someone to hold your hand. Why don't you stop being stupid. You come from a line of great people, use the damn noggin and get a clue.

explain how vaccinations will be enforced in countries like Guinea please? I know you've never been anywhere near Guinea or any other African country, but since you know everything please do enlighten us?

AIRDIG: Which kain factori dem manufacture this "mumu" from.
See me see gbege, talk sey I educate you now now. Na im I done turn "american kid"
Classic Buffoonery!

You wey get CLUE, see as you be.
Mr. "come to Africa". Abi you don forget say some vaccination are MUST for schools and travels, Hello! Yellow fever immunization in any one?
BTW Lagos - Nigeria is in Africa

clap for yourself that you found a pidgin translator. Fact is you are an arrogant american kid. I'm looking forward to your explanation how vaccinations will be enforced in countries like Guinea where a "state" practically doesn't exist and where much of the country is more or less inaccessible.

AIRDIG: If you cannot refute any of the claims highligted; why are you hyperventilating?!
Funny how all the claim highlighted (The Tuskeege's, The Guatemala's, Project SHAD's, Project 112's, The Willowbrook's, The John Perkin's) were classified as conspiracy theories by folks like you for over 30 years. Before US govt declassified the documents less than 15 years ago and offer apologies.

Ignorance they say is bliss
Mr. " CNN says this, BBC says That" Pick up some good book on political economics and you would be pleasantly surprised of what you can learn.
All I can advise you for now, is to

KEEP CALM
AND
STOP DENYING HISTORICAL FACTS

Don't worry, it will soon get to the part when mass vaccination against ebola will be made compulsory. Wait for it

Your statement "it will soon get to the part when mass vaccination against ebola will be made compulsory" makes it sufficiently clear btw that you have NO CLUE about the reality in Africa (let me generalize "Africa" here). NO CLUE. Again: I can only suggest that you visit countries like Sierra Leone and Guinea. Come to Naija too. I'm sure you'll understand what I'm saying then.

AIRDIG: If you cannot refute any of the claims highligted; why are you hyperventilating?!
Funny how all the claim highlighted (The Tuskeege's, The Guatemala's, Project SHAD's, Project 112's, The Willowbrook's, The John Perkin's) were classified as conspiracy theories by folks like you for over 30 years. Before US govt declassified the documents less than 15 years ago and offer apologies.

Ignorance they say is bliss
Mr. " CNN says this, BBC says That" Pick up some good book on political economics and you would be pleasantly surprised of what you can learn.
All I can advise you for now, is to

KEEP CALM
AND
STOP DENYING HISTORICAL FACTS


Don't worry, it will soon get to the part when mass vaccination against ebola will be made compulsory. Wait for it

oh another arrogant American jerk kid? As if you knew anything about history. As if you knew anything about Africa. CHAIII!!!

So are you coming to Nigeria, arrogant little jerk?

JonBee1: Nigerians like most black are plugged deeply into the matrix.
It is the world that has been pulled over our eyes to blind us from the truth.
You have been talking to slaves. Like everyone else they were born into bondage. Into a prison that they cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for the mind.

You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. You are trying to free their mind, Mags5222 ( just like Cap28, Airdig, Igboson2011 etc). But you can only show them the door. they are the one that has to walk through it.

You have given them a Higher learning 101; a taste of real education of the world around them; Let them refute the info below:
-The Tuskeege experiment on Blacks, sponsored by the U.S. Department of Health. http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/clintonp.htm
-The Guatemalan Syphilis experiment. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/health/research/02infect.html?_r=0
-The STD experiment on Africa American in Alabama
-Project 112, a biological and chemical weapon experimentation project by the US Dept of Defense from 1962 to 1973. Authorized by McNamara
-Hepatitis experiments on mentally disabled children at The Willowbrook State School, approved by the New York Department of Health.
-The secret human radiation experiments conducted from the 1940s-1980s, The Clinton govt declassifies information and issues an apology
-Confession of an economic hitman. http://www.economichitman.com/

US Government's Human Experimentation Apology: They're Only Sorry They Were Caught. Countless examples prove atrocious experiments are routine

Nobody was denying that such terrible things have happened and therefore nobody will try to refute them. They HAVE happened. Nobody was denying that China and others are after our ressources. We KNOW that, thank you. We don't need some American kids to tell us, seriously. However this simply has NOTHING to do with the current ebola outbreak. I'm really starting to wonder what the agenda of all you Americans who are flooding NL with your conspiracy theories is. I guess you are not aware of how you are putting people's lives at risk. It's funny how you claim you want to "help" us while at the same time you spew out your racism nonstop. We are not "plugged deeply into the matrix" as much as you think we are. Many of us were not lucky to get any education, but most of us still have some common sense. And maybe you should watch less movies and have a look at reality. I invite you to come to Nigeria and actually LEARN something about Africa rather than spouting out your nonsense from the other side of the planet.

rhames: rhames:

I do not blame the uS for their stance. But I blame our useless , hopeless and dead brain leaders whose only focus is how to corner the country's resources and lack of focus. We thank God that Nigeria is a able to withstand the pressure and take a giant leap for the black race.Whatver anyone cares to say or do about Nigerians, we are still African and our brothers keeper. And we will continue to be the pride of the black race for centuries to come.

You are blaming the right people bros

Annual number of severe cases: 3-5 million.

Annual number of deaths: between 250,000 and 500,000.

Remember, that’s every year—not a one-time shot.

When it comes to seasonal regular flu, the World Health Organization issues no scare reports, no dire warnings, and the press mentions nothing. Zero.

And you know why that it? Because the death rate with influenza is typically very low. In the flu pandemic 2009 around 0,03% as opposed to 50-90% in ebola. So if 1000 people contract the flu, on average less than 1 will die (mostly the elderly who are already very weakened). In ebola 500-900 will die. The spanish flu pandemic in 1918 was a more aggressive subtype with a 2% death rate. It killed up to 50 million people worldwide. Do your math what would happen if hundreds of millions were infected with ebola. You simply can't compare these. Ebola is much less contagious than influenza, but it kills much more of those infected. It is certainly NOT hysterical propaganda if ebola is taken very seriously. It's worrying that all the conspiracy freaks are promoting just that. And I'm starting to wonder what THEIR agenda actually is. Are they even aware of the potential result of THEIR propaganda??

I'd like to add another aspect here. While I agree that Boko Haram etc. (don't forget 419!!) dont do much for naija's image, I think much more of the negative image comes from personal experience people have with Nigerians. I can only speak of what I have seen with my own eyes though.
In Europe, for example, 90% of Nigerian immigrants behave TERRIBLY.

1) they present themselves as asylum seekers which invariably includes a zillion lies, but they actually know that they have no chance to be accepted as refugees. As long as the procedure is running they benefit from the asylum system which was set up for real refugees and costs taxpayers millions and millions every year. Sure, there is often no other way to get in. But do you really expect the taxpayers to like this?
2) then they sell cocaine everywhere on the streets.
3) at the same time they are after countless women in order to get married because they know they will not be accepted as refugees.
4) While there is nothing wrong about getting married as such the things they do to these women are bad. They don't even see them as humans but as a ressource that needs to be exploited to the max. I guess you all know the game. In the end most find a woman who is willing to marry them out of love (from her side, whereas from his side he only pretends to love her with lies, lies and more lies).
5) once they are married they change and show their real ugly colours. Many of those wives do everything for them, but still they treat them like shit.
6) as soon as they have papers they abandon their wives (and often children) who have fought for them, but only after having cheated, beaten and betrayed them a million times.
7) they very rarely even make a minimal effort to learn about and to adapt to their host country and its mentality
8 ) they commit too many crimes abroad, some of them in order to live up to the expectations of a greedy family at home that refuses to acknowledge the realities about life in Europe

Such behaviour is a main reason for the increase in xenophobia in many European countries in the past years. Brothers have told me that women would run away screaming if they told them where they come from. Seriously.
I don't think our image will improve if we don't improve. As long as we only try to have a good image without actually living up to it it simply won't work.

mags5222: And you besta believe CDC contradicts itself. They say its unknown than they say they think it derived from freaking animals than they say they believe its a sanitation issue. Well NO duh!

It's because you're too damn dumb to understand anything, because you know NOTHING about most basic biology and you are obsessed with believing what you want to believe. It's ok. I think everybody on here has seen what a lunatic you are, there's no need to go on.

tonyayo1: Interesting...

Dr. Rima live on nairaland...

Now we'll know the real truth.

You expect "truth" from a liar?

mags5222: You're a freaking idiot. Go ahead tell me where they told you it comes from, because according to CDC they don't even freaking know.

Owe I believe in science I just don't take the shit that mainstream scientist be trying to peddle. DIFFERENCE! And something must be wrong with the education system in Nigeria because you people are fucking stupid! How can you not know whats going on when you live on the fucking continent?

as I said, it's a waste of time. Just because you fail to read sources other than your conspiracy blogs and don't understand even most basic biology doesn't mean it's wrong.

mags5222: Thanks for proving my point. At the beginning of the video that I posted regarding the CDC it stated that many illness is are caused by malnutrition and sanitation issues. No one is arguing against this fact. However they will label people that has so much as a cough with a disease or virus. But you're too stupid to research anything instead of taking peoples word at face value.

None of my questions have been answered, how the heck can they develop a vaccination for something that they didn't even know where it comes from? Again when presented the evidence people deny deny deny.

Proving what point? you have no point. All you do is ramble nonsense. They do know where it comes from, and since the virus is known since 1976 they had enough time to research it. Since you don't "believe in science" though it would be a waste of time to go on. Something must be seriously wrong with the education system in the US.

dalapo: Either it doesn't exist and is all a hoax or the evil white people developed it to kill Africa

MAKE YOUR MIND UP

There's a simple way for them to find out whether or not it exists. I'd suggest all conspiracy freaks go to an isolation center and help them clean up blood, diarrhoe and vomit unprotected, then report back to us after three weeks (if they're still alive, that is).

mags5222: Sit your stupid arse down you brainwashed mind controlled drone. You don't even know something as simple about freaking history, what would you know about a virus that pop out of no where that Europoids cant even freaking explain, but some how some way they created a vaccine?

well I'm sure you can explain it if the "Europoids" can't

mags5222: SMFH thanks for proving my point. No answer back about that terrorist group aye?

this thread is about ebola being a manmade disease (NOT). Now shut the f*** up, raving lunatic

mags5222: That are stable or unstable? Figure out the ling because I can tell you now that Boko Haram is being used to create destabilization in Nigeria.

The US government fund radical groups to destabilize countries. From Libya to Egypt to Somali. I suggest you get this book confessions of an economic hit man.

google Nigeria's history, slowpoke

mags5222: So destabilization of African countries are nonsense? Or you under belief that the people are just bleeped up and inferior and this is why they haven't advanced?

man your stupidity is unlimited. Can you name more than 3 African countries that WERE or ARE stable? FOOOOOOL. Why don't you get your ignorant ass to Africa and learn about it rather than talking shit here

mags5222: Oh You're wrong, show me evidence that proves me wrong, about everything I've presented than I'll retract my comments. The truth is you can't. I have enough evidence that I have been exposed to know exactly whats going on. Africom Agenda 21 Bill Gates and his little Vaccination program Rothchild the Banking system. There is no way you can dispute because this well known. Chemtrail Big Pharma etc

Ok not well known but for anyone who is concerned about whats going on in African countries in America the middle east South American countries central American and Mexico. It is best to be clued into everything not only to warn people but for protection.

na wa oooo u dey kolo no be small tin

mags5222: And you're a clown who can't refute anything I've stated so you resort to ad hominem because you have lost. You're obviously a brainwashed bobble head, who lacks current knowledge of whats going on in the world.

LOL as I said before I am not even TRYING to "refute" any of your bullshit. There's no point doing so because you are OBSESSED. No evidence anyone here could present would make you THINK. Which makes any effort in this direction a total waste of time.

mags5222: Because your arse can't! End of story you can't dispute it because its all true. Destabilization of African countries Bill Gates and his vaccination plan for Africa the grab for African resources..

you're a hopeless case, obviously not capable of being objective and questioning your confused beliefs anymore. You're in a state of hysteria. As I said before, better take your medication.