₦airaland Forum

Kukutente23:
Our tax to GDP figure is not correct i can boldly say. There's a bigger taxation that occurs in the informal sector and of course there's a huge amount of indirect tax in the system that's not captured.

Agric based states should be allowed to tax agric products if we want just taxes. If not, agric derivatives should be taxed and shared with agric inputting states. That's what I think so be fair and just

I absolutely concur

FourQu:
Igbos have too much money. We build empty mansions in our villages so that whenever nigeria collapses we will live like kings at home just as we are living like kings away from home right now

We don't mind, you shouldn't too

Where many of you have since died and living those mansions desolate,we know many of your children who always say they would rather live and die in Lagos than go to the east because they have lived all there lives in the city and can't imagine living in those savage,dead beat villages.

FourQu:
It's okay. We buy their lands and become their landlords there

They pay us rent, and we pay 1% of it as tax

Everybody (especially the igbo man home and away) is happy 😊

Most of the land you claim you bought only have 99 years leases on them and your children are still coming back to re buy those lands when your current leases end.

You are paying tenement on those buildings,vat on the materials you used in building them,employment for the indigenes of that state who would work on your site,more development to those places you develop and more taxes that are still coming while your region is replete with countless mansions that adds no value to your citizenry at home.

Kukutente23:
States should rather be allowed to determine what to tax. Even if agric processing plants are built, the output will still go to other states. For example, a state in the core north that wants to import machinery will do so through the southern ports. But their agric output which is resource based will not yield any tax for them.

Oil is not dwindling. Our oil resources have been and is actively being mismanaged. Trump is even more pro-oil than Biden. While taxes are important, our tax profile has seen an uptick since APC came in but how many of it can be accounted for? Even today, more of our income comes from non-oil sources like tax, agric export, duties etc

You are quite apt with your inference,however, we still have one of the lowest tax to GDP ratios on the continent.....a state is free to choose what it taxes as that as always been the case,if a state is comfortable with it's paltry allocation from faac,no problem.

It's a states ability to develop and retain human capital that would determine it's economic development and sustainability...... states in the north are earning nothing from direct taxes while a state like Lagos is benefiting enormously from it's location and commercial hub of the country.

GetSenseNow:
Any state can suck their citizens dry in the name of collecting VAT and revenue, but the important factor is what that VAT is being used for. What's the essence of posting huge VAT while your GDP and GDP/capita is very poor.



And for those gallivanting on this thread, VAT and IGR have never been statistics for measuring development. GDP and GDP per capita are, so stop disgracing yourselves

Those states at the lower base of that chart,are you saying they are better advanced than those at the top.

South east for instance with those paltry figures compared to the potential inherent in that region says a lot is wrong that means Lagos ,fct,rivers for instance earns more money from taxing the Igbos in their domains than their states of origin would.

WorkTheTalk:
Lagos: N249.77bn

What did you expect when all the important companies in Nigeria have their head offices in Lagos, and pay VAT there, instead of their production and consumption bases?

Just imagine oil companies exploring, drilling and doing oil transactions in Akwa Ibom State, but go to Lagos state to pay VAT just because their head offices are in Lagos. It has always being a lopsided arrangement to cheat the minority.

At the end, you would hear some illiterates telling people from other regions to leave Lagos, and go back to their states not knowing that majority of the development in Lagos came from those states.

If those regions were conduceive for those oil companies to stay,they surely will,I bet you were to young or wasn't even born when shell was head quartered in warri,delta and mobil was in eket,akwa ibom before hostilities from the locals drove them out..... dangote refinery was also initially billed to be sited in the niger delta before he ran away with his capital to Lagos.

FourQu:
I love as south east is taking last in anything that has to do with tax or revenue

We can't be paying from our sweat then share over half of it with the remaining states and then these government thieves in power will be looting the remaining

But also remember that according to your supremacist ideologues, South easterners are the most dispersed people in Nigeria and you should know that other states are benefitting from their sweat to the detriment of their region....that means Lagos or Abuja for instance earns more revenue on every Igbo in their domain as against Anambra or imo.

That doesn't benefit the south east in anyway if I must say.

Kukutente23:
VAT is a consumption tax. How Kano which has almost same population with Lagos will have consumption tax of about one-tenth that of Lagos is a mystery. What is obvious is that VAT collection is a formal system and the less informal the system of a state is, the less VAT that is collected therein.
Another issue is if you say VAT should be zero on agricultural products but should be paid on processed foods, then states that have massive agric output will be shortchanged while those who produce using agric inputs will have higher VAT. This idea coming from a govt that has removed subsidy from fertilisers and has been the poorest at offering support to farmers both crops and animals since 1999 is tardy.

Those states with high agricultural output would do well to attract investors for agric processing for both local consumption and and export.....the north has very huge agricultural potentials.

Oil is dwindling and the revenue generated is also under threat in the coming years,no country can survive without taxes considering our abysmal GDP to population ratio....those countries we all like to run to for greener pastures all depend on taxes from their citizens,that's why things are working there.

Bestmanfornow:
Yoruba government you guys keep throwing it out we know what you guys are known for Oluwale, na only propaganda nothing more soon you guys will be out, Propaganda no infrastructure that's what your leaders uses in brainwashing you guys, once the throw it out gullible minds start jubilating

Do you know how many business decisions that can be made based on these data alone......that same ekiti gov now wouldn't have any excuse to be complaining about paucity of funds,his people can easily hold him accountable but if you are contented about the low revenue generation drive if your govs,that's your problem.

Seefinish:
is like if don't compare IGR generated by southeast with that of southwest, you don't have peace with your poverty.
Tell me the impact of IGR generated by Ekiti on Ekiti state.

Only if you know how much your govs needs those revenues .....you complain no schools,no hospitals,no good road network,no security.....where do you expect the govs to get money from.

It's a good thing this data are being publicised so people can better hold their govs accountable.....the tide is changing and states will soon have to be seeking revenues to take care of themselves.

Ppogbae:
Every single state should be doing these on a massive scale. We have such an infrastructural deficit in this nation, considering our massive population

That's what we keep telling those dim wits who can't see beyond their noses......tinubu is the one that should do everything.....the govs have played a very detrimental role in keeping this country underdeveloped.....now if Lagos is working,they would say Lagos is only developed because it was a former capital but the empty heads don't know what state the FG left Lagos for Abuja and how much over population that state is battling,same is happening to Abuja now......if the previous govts in Lagos where as inefficient has the other govs,do you think Lagos would be where it is today.

Bobodee09:
Once it is in there region they will praise it to the heavens but if is in another region they will tag it waste of money or white elephant project.


Shior.

Very pathetic lot!! Come see them criticising the one Edo gov flagged of today.

God1000:
All I can say is that Obasanjo was right about everything he said.

The insults from the presidency is totally unacceptable, Under Obasanjo, Nigerians were buying cars and building houses everyday, but now Nigerians are selling everything they have just to feed, this government is the worst in the history of Nigeria.

INEC chairman should not be appointed by the president

Because you aren't buying cars or building houses doesn't mean people aren't.

Samunique:
Tinubu high headedness and mis governance will soon be his undoing.

You mean to say you don't see anything good in the presentation by the firs boss?

unitysheart:
As much as this is fine, northern states shouldn't benefit that much from VAT raised through alcohol beverages and similar substances.

You people should stop over flogging this alcohol issue with the north,how much is total vat from alcohol,is alcohol the only vat earner in Nigeria....there are far more goods that would equally earn the north a lot more money.....

SmartPolician:
There's no modification made to the tax bills that won't see Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt getting the most vat because they are the core consumers in Nigeria.

Even Ogun State, which has many industries, cannot stand a chance because most goods produced in Ogun State are consumed in Lagos and across Nigeria.

Just as the middle class is quickly varnishing, there's no conscious effort to distribute the wealth of Nigeria. We are still living with the "grab as much as you can" disease.

Your analogy isn't quite correct,what it means is that govs would now strive to develop their states economies by providing basic infrastructure, education,health care and most important of all, security.......a state like Ogun or oyo can attract people who feel overburdened with taxes and living in Lagos by guaranteeing those things listed above....many people are already migrating to Ogun from Lagos and this is a plus for the economy of ogun state and all the govt needs is to ensure their are good road infrastructure,health care and security.

hisexcellency34:
But states banning and destroying beers can have VAT

It the tinubu reform goes through,there wouldn't be any question about this,you only get vat on what's consumed in your state.....if alcohol isn't consumed in your state,u get no vat.

Tinubu should actually be praised for this because his Lagos would be getting less than they are already getting if the reform goes through,that is genuine statesmanship if I must say.

Fiscus105:
As if, only you have nuclear weapons

As if, you and your fellow Russians, are immune to nuclear weapons

As if, others can trigger their nuclear weapons, wherever they are being kept.


Continuing doing gragra dey go!

It's a deterrence tactic that has worked since the beginning of the cold war,that is what as checked the world from sliding into unnecessary world wars.....it's a clear message to the west to reconsider their support for Ukraine with long range missiles to attack russian territory......you can now see why voting out the Dems was a good thing.

gbaskiboy:
We still have great artists whose music span decades and they are still in the industry and they are happily married.

How many....even davido don dey feel am!! Person wey jus mari yesterday o.

highchiefpee:
How are men more vulnerable in domestic violence?

It's easier for a woman to kill a man than vice versa ....except you aren't sleeping with her or eating her food anymore.

Fear women!!

richiemcgold:
Whenever I come across situations like this, one question I always ask myself: "can I ever lay my hands on a woman?"

This is the only point I would support a divorce.....a woman should be able to endure any other thing but violence shouldn't be tolerated at all.....her family should go rescue her before they kill each other ....funny thing is men are even more vulnerable in domestic violence issues.

Salewa97:
Kwankwaso don dey act like a bitter Ex.

Watch him become the prima Dona of those obidients .... watch as they start calling him the best leader in Africa after Nkrumah!!

Very pathetic lot.

Kukutente23:
Imagine how bitter and hateful the Lagos axis was that they flew out of their region to another region and chook mouth in their local affairs just to spite a sitting southern president.

What manner of bitter politics is that? No wonder their entrance to the national scene has brought nothing other than bitterness to the nation.

Bitter people can't produce anything good even if you give them dangote sugar

If it were to that easy,let your obi too fly into Kano and align as appropriate to spite tinubu.....let's see how successful he would be.

sirpharrell:
It is people like this Elder Edwin Clark that are misleading Governor Fubara. Where in the constitution did it state that members will IMMEDIATELY AND AUTOMATICALLY lose their seat if they defected to another political party?

Are the Rivers lawmakers the first people to defect in this country? I expected him to mention just one example of a lawmaker that immediately and automatically lose his seat upon defection. Even after the Rivers lawmakers, several lawmakers have defected in this country. Which of them lost their seat IMMEDIATELY AND AUTOMATICALLY?

This is where Governor Fubara shot himself in the foot. As long as no court of competent jurisdiction has declared their seats vacant, those guys are still members of the Rivers State House of Assembly. The failure to recognise this fact is what has led the Governor to make so many mistakes in breach of the constitution.

That was same way he mislead GEJ!!

Mirasteel:
This is the reason why Americans voted for Trump, with Trump in power, nothing like this will ever happen.

That's why many of us supported trump over those hysterical Dems!! We noh want that amala girl.

Bobloco:
The Labour Party has existed long before Peter Obi joined, and it will continue to exist after him. Peter Obi did not form the Labour Party.

The former governor of Ondo State, Olusegun Mimiko, won a governorship election on the platform of the Labour Party long before Peter Obi ever considered running for president, let alone joining the party.

So, this gaslighting attempt to make it seem like the Labour Party begins and ends with Peter Obi is misguided and will not succeed.
A complete distraction

The elections are long over, and when the election is over, governance begins .Tinubu is president. His "bolekaja" economic policies are causing untold hardships and pain for Nigerians.

The X user who posted this, and you who brought it here, should channel your frustrations and anger towards Tinubu. Peter Obi is not responsible for your frustrations and anger.

Bloody hypocrite....we all thought you were screaming ellupee was the next best thing after bole and fish......why are they failing so badly accross various states and regions,it means one thing and that's not having an effective structure.....and you are all the ones disturbing our peace and lying to yourselves that obi won the 2023 elections.....how,who,with which structure?

Mynd44:
It isn't a big deal though. Night just mean the gubernatorial candidates are not popular.

It even happens in the same election cycle, APC lost Ebonyi at the presidential election but won the gubernatorial election

PDP lost presidential election in Enugu but won the gubernatorial election, same with Oyo.

Heck APC lost the presidential election in Edo but won 2 senate seats there

It's not same thing......you could see the representation across various regions....it's the structures that we are talking about......if anything we all expected LP to build on the popularity they already had by getting candidates up for the smaller elections.

LP shouldn't be about one ma alone,his ideology and philosophy should also reflect on other party members,that's if there was any in the first place.

SisterAnn:
Kwankwaso knows how and where to press the mumu button of his horde of Alimajiri.

Well, the Lagos lackeys above me are already rolling in the mud with him.

And obidients too watch them to start calling kwankwanso the best politician and next president because he seems to be antagonistic of tinubu.

Iceberg3:
No single koneheaded structures invited!!!

Nobody wants pickpockets around 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Didn't you see achike udenwa there,I bet you don't know who he is.....for your info,there also wasn't any Yoruba politician too.

babajero:
When Yorubas supported tinubu to remove the man who truly love them and Lagos state in the person of Ambode I knew then that some Yorubas are nothing but empty vessels.

I guess you missed the part he mentioned the gridlock was caused by ongoing road construction.....I know it was deliberate of you,but your tomfoolery is being reckoned.

sweetjohn:
And if he didnt become president. And so? will it stop you and hyour tribes men from suffering? will it make PO and his children suffer the shege banza? Like i said earlier, Abokis are more intelligent than you and your tribes men bc you guys are so useless tribalist

But I ain't complaining!! If you were so well off as you claim.