Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 10:04pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
See all of you making noise here defending politicians that will play you all till they destroy all that's left of your souls. It is even clear right now self. Some of you do not have souls anymore, insulting and attacking each other negatively and with disdain, expressing hatred, etc.
Some are even forming professors, twisting facts and forming narratives. SMH
By the way, the takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban is inevitable, it was only a matter of when. So all your noises here have no content. |
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Politics › Re: Hushpuppi Mentions Linda Ikeji, Bukola Saraki, Dino Melaye As Accomplice(video) by Livelystone01: 4:58pm On Aug 01, 2021 |
Onepeople: Kemi and her hatred for Linda, even if Linda name is not mentioned, kemi must drag her into it.saraki is too wise to use hush for money laundering, I don't about dino, kemi is an APC supporter, I have noticed ever since this ABBA kyari news have been going on , have not said anything in that regard, she is after Linda, dino ,Saraki and daddy freez. But mr Freeze was always in support of Hush na. He even posted pictures of their meetings and talked about how Hush pays his driver better than government. I want him to say something now at least, he has always been questioning pastors when they spend, he should come and say something about this issue for once. Are you not surprised that someone like him who is normally fast to post issues online jas been silent since? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Wikileaks Founder, Julian Assange Loses Ecuadorian Citizenship by Livelystone01: 4:50pm On Aug 01, 2021 |
Mercisharelove: I have to point out to whoever is reading this, there's hope for you, don't ever allow anyone tell you there's no hope for you, your life is planned, you may have numbers of plans for yourself, but you see, there are concrete divine plans about to be unleash if you only you will believe that you are divine.
There is a physical part of you, and the soul part of you and then your divine invisible part. Harness those and dwell safety. Nice one sis. Keep the fire burning. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 3:13pm On Aug 01, 2021*. Modified: 4:23pm On Aug 01, 2021 |
DissTroy: Balls! Now this is it. There's no need to be veiled, especially on this thread. Even more so when your persona on here doesn't necessarily contradict your persona elsewhere. And, you are a clergyman of some sort? Now I understand.
Then again, nobody's asking that you emulate the attitude of anyone here. Asides Budaa, nobody on this thread is claiming to be a moral lighthouse guiding all our ships to some righteous harbour. Do what you will.
But if I am being honest, I'd prefer any people who are more spirited in approach to issues than lukewarm. Conversations get heated and sociopolitical debates already means you are choosing a side. Aren't Christians suppose to be neutral? Screw it: Does your Bible agree with all of the woke and queer campaigns of the Left? Do you believe those things? No, you've already taken a stand then. And the Bible preaches you should stand for what you believe in. The lukewarm, pacifist approach has never gotten anything done.
And, if I am being honest, I'd choose any of the spirited guys here who are passionate and vocal about what they believe in that you, a lukewarm person who's trying not to get on nerves by vehemently insisting on what he believes in for "peace's sake".
#EndSARS would never have happened with your kind. #EndSARS failed because of your kind. Nigeria is where she is because of your arms-at-akimbo approach. No reorientation or revolution has ever been achieved with your approach. Go through my post you will see I have never used the word left or right, but democrats and GOP members because I believe we are all being played by a class of people called politicians. And yes, I may not support some of the ideas of the Democratic party but I believe in some of them more than those of the GOP. If you are honest, you will understand that no man can stay neutral in analyzing this political dispensation because you must either not say anything or pick one side that you feel is better than the other. You cannot tell me that all who aligns with the Democratic party are not christians, likewise, there are also those who may not be christians in the GOP. Finally, I am not here to police anyone, I state my opinion and leave, not like my opinion will change anything in the first place. Those who fight on here do so on their personal desires. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 10:23pm On Jul 31, 2021*. Modified: 10:18pm On Aug 31, 2021 |
benalvino3: Na today I begin say budaatum is dishonest? I know he does not really care about the doxxing and insult because like I posted here, there are atleast twice he was excusing PrideofLincoln1 insult and I said he should feel free to join him. The same thing budaatum was doing, Livelystone01 tried to scold me while keeping mute about PrideofLincoln1. I don't have any issue with Livelystone01 but you guys should just know how crazy everyone can get. I am the only person that has been doxxed by someone on his own side why? Because I never one day supported his bs. Baba o, can you please stop mentioning me in this thread concerning scolding you, because I believe I replied and apologized to you yesterday if I'm not wrong, but it seems you may have what you want from me. Please state it so I will know it instead of the continuous repetition of something that has been touched. I don't know what you are looking for by mentioning my name every time even when we discussed broadly on the issue and Ii even told you sorry for mentioning you yesterday. Men are not expected to be repeating same line after it has been trashed. For your information, I am not one that does online wars, I am a practicing Christian both offline and online, so expecting me to act like the way it is here is off limit for me. I need to ssy this for another time and day, sorry once again for mentioning your name in the past, I believe it is because we normally discuss with your first name (Benalvino) , but saying I was scolding you is way off league. I lean towards the Democratic party on a normal day, drawing your attention to a discussion that relates to politics where we discussed without insults was my intention and only concern in this group, not trying to pick a side in your childish attitudes over here. The attitudes of some of you here is not one I want to emulate. NEVER! This is my Facebook profile so you will understand my personality, I am not one who desires to engage in the madness going on here all in the name of politics. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 12:14pm On Jul 31, 2021 |
The thread has been muddy for a while, but now it's like a stinking still water. It's oozing badly to calm people. Everyone wants to be a macho, everyone wants to claim victory, and for what exactly, if I may ask? Not that there is a trophy at the end, no award, no addition to your qualifications or standard of living, etc. SMH I have seen people disagree but I haven't seen the kind of hatred, pride, anger and whatever is negative attitude like it is here. This was what the politicians wanted all along. Create a sysyem where the people fight and hate themselves and coast to victory during election. Whenever the people are united, politicans will lose out big time, this is the reason they will highlight the diversities among a group in order to get what they want. You all are being played like chess pieces. Most of the politicians and analysts you support will secretly be laughing at you all. I rest my case.  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 10:56pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
benalvino3: its nice that you are in Port Harcourt. about seeing, I think I should look into that. Whenever you are ready let me know. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 10:21pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
Goodvibes007: No vex. You can continue doxxing each other. I think the issue is that lots of posters on this thread takes posts or contents too serious. It's not everytime one must reply to all posts.
I was just amused that even though Livelystone rarely posts here, but you still somehow called him out for being an hypocrite. Na waoh. Baba o, the thing tire me self. What I have noticed with some posters here is that you either show how hardened you are or you stay off. Try to stay calm, you will be called names. Me wey I dy try to build my small life o, I no get time to dy fight online. I see Ben as a friend, including everyone here, if I make a post and someone doesn't like it, I dont even complain, after all my opinion should not be a universal law. By the way Ben, I'm in PH, e go better make you tell me where you dy nake i see you or make I tell you where I dy make you see me. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 10:14pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
benalvino3: Goodvibes007 many of us you see attacking that old cargo was very patient with him. From the very first week I came to this thread he was insultive and I was forgiven, patient with him but I came to realise that you guys are weak and only shout when someone is trying to be reasonable.
Since I started getting on his nerve I have seen how emotional he is and sometimes he tries to avoid. But it's kinda late. It's the game he likes playing, me I am just baffled why he hates the game he likes playing.
Doxxing all those nonsense you guys were doing was okay till you guys started getting doxxed. Livelystone01 saw what was going on but I was the one he tried to scold instead of the oldcargo I drew your attention to your previous comments about a particular topic and you came out with a debate on how to discuss it which we did openly here. You dropped your points and i did mine, we got to a stage where it ended without any conflict whatsoever. Please tell me why I am fake because of that? There are others i don't mention here too, why not ask me to respond to everyone here so as to show that i am not fake? One thing I don't do will be to get into argument or efighting with anyone over here so as to prove myself. Na me quote you sha. I think you have been so used to the wars going on here that anyone who doesn't operate with you in that dimension is fake. I stopped following this thread regularly because y'all got so poisoned to the fact that you felt accepting the points of others make you look weak. Now you are drawing me back to this thread. Na wa! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 9:09pm On Jul 30, 2021 |
benalvino3: True. Tdotbluejays1 attacked me once because I was giving ibime praise for being open minded and reasonable. he said i was looking for recognition from ibime . I felt it was because he felt he should be getting all the praise. the Guy was the one i thought was the beacon of reasoning on the left in this group but. in as much as ibime can utter leftwing stuff, he is not really a radical. they have attacked him several times for the crime of making a reasonable statement and argument. edi287 is another person that aligns himself with them but i respect him for not easily swayed when they try to drag him back into the plantation. and its like AmazonTopaz is the Granny goodness of the left in this group who tries to produce parademons for their Oga Mr. bush rat. She will always get emotional when edi287 talks sense or does not follow their group think. but these days AmazonTopaz seem nice and i dont know what happened but she seem more tolerable which I like. I think while Raudeuter is right leaning, he is the most neutral person in this thread.
budaatum only problem is the fear of telling the other guy that he is right 
the good thing about us on the right, we don't berate anyone who has his own opinion. livelystone01 while I respect his trouble free mentality, he can be fake and hypocritical sometimes. all of us are hypocritical i know, but the problem is the way one is hypocritical. Baba o, abeg tell me where i take be fake o. At least make i learn. Thank you |
Politics › Re: Abba Kyari Speaks On Hushpuppi's Allegations by Livelystone01: 4:16pm On Jul 29, 2021 |
Masanto: Something is fishy, Hushpuppi paid directly to the seller but the Clothes were delivered to your office? Why cant the seller waybill directly to him if there is no tie between you and Hush. Abi him de run Escrew service? ...also found something very funny with his statement. The cop used the word "we" a lot just to cover and hide himself from the front. Instead of him to keep shut and wait, he is making a statement that will complicate his case when he eventually gets arrested in futuret. How will his lawyer come up with an alternative statement to free him when he has made an amateur statement in the media already. He of all people should know that the media never forgets An ordinary investigator will destroy this statement in court, not to talk of professional lawyers. He should have met with a good liar like Lai Mohammed or asked him to speak on his behalf. |
Politics › Re: Hushpuppi: Arrest Abba Kyari - U.S. Court Orders FBI by Livelystone01: 3:40pm On Jul 29, 2021 |
IGBOSON1: In Nigeria....let him venture out to a sane country (not the likes of Kenya), and we’ll see how far! What that guy failed to see is that Malami has few years to be there. Kyari on the other hand, he is already confined to the shores of Nigeria for life. Whenever he leaves, he would be arrested immediately. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 2:50pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
Appleyard: Sensible all through.
The world today is far from normalcy. The more we humans evolve along an avalanche of civility, the more we move closer to self destruction. Man is an irony such that I sometimes wonder whether the Creator himself even understand us. We want the 'best' but at the same time crave the 'worst'. Well, that's a topic for another day. 
You were right about racial ideology vis-a-vis the United States. The self-acclaim bastion of democracy in modern human history. Yeah, the US waste no time in lecturing, sanctioning and even declaring wars on other nations for not respecting democratic principles especially in the area of human rights, when itself has very little or no respect for coloured people on it's soil.
Here is a country whose political, social and econonic institutions thrive on covert racism. Even in 21st century America, a black kid who sees the police, turns his back and run simply out of fear get multiple shots from behind, but if the kid was white, the police would, in most cases, only just give a chase or even let them be.
Of all the developed nations of the world, it's only in 'democratic America' that a criminal black man is mugged, stripped and threated like a slave, and sentenced twice for similar crime committed by a white felon who can work into a church, kill black worshippers and after his arrest, the police buys him a burger.
If anyone tells you that racism is a thing of the past just because the Jim Crow's slave era is no more, well, tell them to wake up from their delusive sleep. Racism is well and alive in the US, just that it's in its covert form; in democratic institutionalized uniforms. Apt. Nothing more to add. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 9:01pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln2: Thanks Livelystone. I can drive from Downtown Chicago to my home in Oak park which is 72% white and in the process, i will drive through many neighborhoods including White, Hispanic and Black neighborhoods and you will see young people outside playing sports that are available to them in their vicinities. My Oak Park has a big swimming pool and i can say 90% of the youths there are Whites because that's what is available to them. It's jst few years ago they start putting tracks, Baseball fields, Basketball fields and Football fields too because we jump on the city mayor that the city belongs to us all irrespective of our color or gender. Thanks for the clarity. Information is one way that guarantees sound judgment. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 8:56pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
benalvino3: I believe that the sentencing is a problem. They should do more studies as to why blacks get more time. That might be racism. I have seen complains about that but I haven't looked into it. But there are other cases where offenders and criminals are being released by the court and they went on to kill people. That's the reason situation in Chicago.
As for racism, it will never go away, there will always be someone that is a racist.
The race issues you see today that was not this bad during Bush and Clinton is as a result of the media and politicians making everything about race. It divides the nation and increase racism. There are groups hating each other because of what they are being told. Your last paragraph says it all bro. The politicians everywhere will always take advantage of current issues to rile up their bases. But concerning the race issues, we have seen clearly that it exists in reality even if they are not permitted on paper. Thanks for your engagement so far, I'd be glad to engage on other topics that are hot today if you can. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 8:15pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln2: What happened with sports in America is that certain sports are generally loved by Black teens and certain sports are loved by White Kids. It's not uncommon to go to any Black neighborhood in America and see Basketball courts, American Football fields, Racetracks and baseball fields everywhere and if you go to lilly White neighborhoods, you see hockey rings, swimming pools and lacrosse fields and sometimes you see 9 hole golf courses there. It's what you have in your neighborhood that will get your attention hence Blacks dominating those Sports and vice versa. Now Black are getting into the White Sports too and they are showing that they are capable of excelling there. I remember when you can hardly find a Black Quarterback in the NFL and now my Brothers are dominating the Quarterback positions in the league. Now this is why i don't like talking much on some issues, especially when I don't have all the facts. Now you have given a clear answer as to why there are more whites in those sports and blacks in the others. It is normal for a guy who have something in his yard to be good at it if he trains consistently. Well done. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 8:10pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
benalvino3: Your first paragraph says hardwork pays and if African Americans can't work hard they should not be complaining the system is there to put them down. Nigerians holds the most degree than any other ethnic group including Asian Americans. Nigerians are professors and lecturers. They are very successful becauase of the hardwork they invest into their career.
There are white people who are not getting it easy and their situation is no different from the next person. What's most important is their qualifications.
About athletics, no one is telling blacks they can't do anything. In the United States, they have good PE and sports programs embedded in their schools. They discover the strength of athletes there and help them decide their career path. That's not to say they are not going to streets and ghetto to harvest talents who are not in schools, they do that also but to he an athlete from the schools they require a good grade from you and if you are lacking then they may kick you out of the sports you are interested in and have you focus on your grades.
During Malcolm X, time was hard and bad for blacks but things has changed.
Take south Africa for example, there was a time blacks were not allowed to get the same level of maths. But as I said things has change and it is left for everyone to take their chances. Cool reply bro but let me say this fact. Ideologies hardly die when there are willing people ready to front it. Racism may be dead on paper, but there are silent voices operating in it today. Court judgements and cases sentencing are examples. How do you explain different sentencing for same crime between two different people, let's say black and white in the US today? Can we also relate this to what is happening in Nigeria today? Because racism is just an international term, there is a whole lot of "isms" playing out here locally. The Igbos are hardworking, yet they are still talking because it is the right thing to do. Truth is, there is no level playing field anywhere in the world where a tiny little dot of "ism" exiat, that's what I am talking about in the US. Things might be normal on paper, but the reality on ground is way different and unless you are trying to ignore that, I don't think anyone can help and make things better. One of the reasons people are fighting against racist abuses on the media today is because they might be texts today, but if not checked now, who knows what might happen when they pick up arms and begin another holocaust tomorrow. Finally, it is difficult to understand the pains of someone who's putting on a shoe with pins inside. Unless you try it on, you'd shout at him to stop making noise. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 7:54pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Enugurangers: You may also want to check out the sports Blacks dominate. (Sprint, Relay, Basketball, e.t.c). These are sports where a child from a poor black ground can participate in without costing the parents an arm and a leg.
There is a reason blacks don't dominate sports like Golf, Hockey, Lacrosse, e.t.c
It's an entire topic on it's own
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2021/mar/29/black-athletes-genetically-superior-myth-sports You have a point bro, like I said, times have changed and things are getting better for the blacks, albeit, slowly. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 1:19pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
benalvino3: Its alright. You can reply whenever you like. I will respond. I had a debate once with GalaticHorde and the debate was about qualification and how Nigerians are doing better than African Americans. Nigerians are black and most times are on student visa and as a result Nigerians had to put more efforts. There is a reason Indians dominate computing in almost everywhere they go because they are qualified and they get employed.
Before anyone can say discrimination or systemic racism, look at the qualifications. Asians are on top of the food chain and they are not whites. Stereotypes builds as a result of performance by one ethnic group.
Being under represented is not becuase of uppression. It could be a case for a country that does not function like Nigeria.
What do you think about athletics? Blacks dominate right? They are over represented because they are good in that aspect.
So let's look at qualifications. Nigerians live in a rigorous system here and when they travel, they see opportunities and grab it because they are seeing results for their hard work. Also, a Nigerian who is over there knows why he went, to better his life and family, therefore, he will work double to meet up with his targets. Most Nigerians work 10hours for peanuts here, they'd rather work 12hours nonstop over there tohave a better pay to meet up. As for the area of athletics, I think the reason the blacks are dominating it is because of years where they were pushed into that corner by segregation and words of negativity concerning other areas of education. Imagine a man who has been always told he cannot do anything in engineering and other areas, what do you expect him to do now that his esteem has been crushed?, He will just face his talents and see how others like him are doing better in that area. I think the blacks are more respected and accepted in the field of athletics from the time where systemic racism was at its peak and it has stuck with so many because that's where they are valued. It is a self esteem issue. (I like you to watch or read about how Malcolm X was discouraged by his white teacher that he would do better as a waiter instead of being a lawyer. Thank God he found his mojo in prison) But now, most blacks are moving into other areas and that's a good thing. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 11:03pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3: Systematic racism was laws and policies put in place to keep blacks down. Today, modern day America has abolished those laws.
But if you know any systemic laws that discriminate against blacks list them out let's discuss it. You are right bro, on paper, there is no law that encourages systemic racism (which I know as of today), but we know that's not what is at play on ground. It's just like Nigeria where the constitution seems fair on paper but on ground, the Easterners (Igbos) are suffering from another reality. They are underrepresented in the nation in so many areas beginning from the number of states, to other areas where this government has acted in line with the marginalization they are crying against. But to be fair, I accept that there is no law on paper for systemic racism in the US, except there is one I do not know about, but my take is about what is being practiced on ground. Sorry for my late reply, I was so busy and also went to church this evening. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 4:56pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3: CRT argues that race is not biologically grounded and natural but is a socially constructed concept that is used by white people to further their economic and political interests at the expense of people of colour.
Is race biologically grounded or not? Do you accept the CRT definition of race? If yes why? If not why not?
Why I crossed out number 3 is because it fell in line with crt definition of race. Notice he does not differentiate groups. This is more in line with the race is a social construct narrative. And if we go by this definition a racist is the oppressor towards the oppressed. According to crt whiteness is oppression and blackness is victim hood. If this is the case then someone like Obama can be racist because he was part of the system which they label whiteness. First of all I have said I'd never talk about the CRT because i don't understand what it is, I haven't even taken out time to check it out and I won't because it has become a political weapon. Also, before I say more i want to ask if you understand or know that systemic racism exists in America. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 2:00pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3: Definitions of race
1. any one of the groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits regarded as common among people of shared ancestry.
2. a group within a species that is distinguishable (as morphologically, genetically, or behaviorally) from others of the same species
3. Race is socially constructed, not biologically natural.
From all this definition. Cancel out the one you disagree with and why.
Also, define what you think racism is. Racism... 1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. 2. a belief that a race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences pproduce an inherent superiority of a particular race. 3. The system oppression to the social, economic and political advantage of another. Also, systemic racism which is more or less of an issue today is seen as a deeply rooted prejudice, combined with institutional power and systemic oppression of certain groups of people." Please cross out the things you disagree with and give me your take on the above. I agreed with your definistions of race. |
Sports › Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo And The Milwaukee Bucks Are 2020/2021 NBA Champions by Livelystone01: 1:42pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Youngmike1994: He knows how to use his lenght which is attacking the rim That I noticed. |
Sports › Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo And The Milwaukee Bucks Are 2020/2021 NBA Champions by Livelystone01: 1:28pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
rayvelez: Its truly a beauty cos i can't just believe it from two games down and win the championship is just unexplainable i was waw. I was watching game one and two and asked myself how the Bucks were going to overturn this game when they are not too good with three points throw and Giannis was missing some free throws too. In game 3 and 4, I saw the aggression and knew it was what they needed. Aggression and Giannis became more of a beast each game. This game 6 just solidified his place as a hall of famer. |
Sports › Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo And The Milwaukee Bucks Are 2020/2021 NBA Champions by Livelystone01: 8:52am On Jul 21, 2021 |
Commentor: 50 points....no be beans. Sometimes, i imagine how he gets his numbers because he's not a consistent three pointer like Durant and Curry but then I also know that he's a very powerful forward. The Bucks are very disciplined. How they came from two games down to win this championship is truly a beauty. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 1:11am On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3: We can discuss this further if you are interested.
We can start by understanding what race and racism is. I can discuss with you. Just drop what you think is race or racism, I'll reply your mentions. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 8:47pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3: Don't see it as group, see it as individuals. And there are people who risk their lives or make huge donation for others yet remain anonymous so it does not remove attention from the ones in need.
In CRT, it focus more on the systemic structure of the society and also race is a social construct which means racism is a matter of oppressors and the oppressed. Ben, there are people who'd risk their lives like you said, but when it has grown to become more people with the same agenda, it becomes a group with same ideology which may become cunning or weaponized if it is not checked. Racism and almost every issue that of discussion today became so as a result of social construction. Racism is real buddy, I'd support your claim if you say it (Racism) is weaponized today which is true. As for the CRT, I have not and will not make any claims, I haven't studied it neither will I study it because I see it as a weapon on both sides. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 6:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3: Its nice you brought up this argument the way you did. Others will be shouting coon, kkk bla bla bla without saying any tangible thing.
In life, there are people who use people, sometimes they do something for you because it benefits them but THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. Critical race theory has made it to always be the case which is why I said it's stupid.
Let's say democrats(white) promise minority free cash($300) every month. According to Crt it's racist because this advancement only occurs because it benefits the dominant group. But the same people making this argument will turn around and call Republicans racist for telling the blacks to pull themselves up. At the end if whites do anything for blacks it's racist and if they don't do its racist. No matter what they do its racist.
Now the CRT itself is being pushed by democrats, in their school which is part of the systemic structure CRT says is used to keep black people down. If white teachers are pushing it, the systemic structure put in place are use to push it, is it not the case that critical race theory itself is used to keep the dominant race dominant? Because what you and I are discussing is about The truth is, no group will ever want to help another in this life if they won't gain anything at the end of the day. Me I haven't said anything about the CRT because I have not fully grasped it. In short, I have never focused on it. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Livelystone01: 3:34pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
benalvino3: Calm down and let's talk. Be civil so you believe this
Race and racism are “materially deterministic,” that is to say, race and racism advantage the dominant group and therefore any racial advancement or racial equity measure will only occur if it benefits the dominant group (in the case of the U.S., white Americans).
AND YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE? YOU REALLY THINK ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS BLACKS ONLY OCCURS BECAUSE IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF WHITES AND TO KEEP THEM IN POWER(DOMINANT) ? Bros, I try to be silent whenever I scoop out time to be here, even though I read comments but I need to call your little bias to light about the CRT. (I have my reservations about it though but I have never made any comment on it until understand the whole issue) You see your comment I highlighted in block letters, it was a bullet from a smoking gun you pointed at yourself and other GOP supporters here. Before now, you people claim that one of the reasons the Democratic party is fighting for the blacks is because the party is using them to further their evil agenda. That the party need the blacks in order to carryout their aim of winning elections and that the blacks are being controlled by their narratives. Now, if the whites in the Democratic party are using the black to further their agenda, isnt that the same as only supporting the blacks because they will gain from it? Isn't that the same with your highlighted quote above? Make I hibernate again.� |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Winners Pastors Were Sacked By Daniel Breakforth by Livelystone01: 3:18pm On Jul 20, 2021 |
paxonel: If that is the basis for the sack then it is justified. You can't abandon your primary duty to pursue something else and at the same time expect growth. The truth is that the pastor who ran to the media is cunning. There are many new winners branches opened today and not all have enough members, so if it is about offering or tithe, thousands would have been sacked. I am always skeptical of people who run to social media to cry about their personal stuff. If the pastor is a good christian, he would have been worried about what his actions would draw towards the body of Christ in the first place. Also, most if these young graduates are using the unemployment problem in this country as a means to apply as pastors in LFC because they know that the church pays your rent and gives you monthly stipend. Many of then woukd never have been pastors if they had jobs in the first place, this is why they are unproductive or passionate about their tasks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo Sacks 40 Pastors 'For Low Income From Their Branches' (Video) by Livelystone01: 12:49pm On Jul 18, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: If true, It wouldn't be surprise because this is a sad but true reality of what the church has turn into these days.
Not much different from the world to whom the church was sent.
One man who I had great respect while growing up was Benson Idahosa. If I'd be honest, I respected him more than God. If God says a thing and he says something else, I would easily take what he says over that of God. So when I see many Christians do same today with their church leaders, i understand where they're coming from because i've been there and done that myself.
One day in late Nineties, a bishop in Idahosa's church, when there were just three of them, who was a family member lamented seriously about how it had become about how much money they brought to the headquarters in Benin City where Benson Idahosa was still in charge.
Although I wasn't yet saved at the time, I wasn't very comfortable with that news, as Benson Idahosa was a man i looked up to with great respect, and that didn't sound very nice in my ears.
It was clear that he had drifted from what he used to be, and began to chase the riches and things of this world which Jesus says chokes the Word and make it not to bear fruits to perfection in one's life.
It was that glaring that after his death his church made it a mandate to go back to their founding principles of evangelism being their supreme task.
So when i speak the way i do about the loss of focus of today's church leaders concerning the things of God, that they now prioritize the lesser things like tithing, I am not speaking because I just want to speak, but I know what I'm talking about.
It's the sad reality of what the church has become today.
I pray the church gets back to the ways of the early church where it was all about God.
God bless. Someone like you make criticism looks beautiful. This is how a critique is supposed to speak, not someone who has hidden hatred. The truth is that the church needs critiques in order to be kept in line, the pastors are humans and they need to be reminded of their mission, but these people criticizing should speak without bias. |