charix:
Seeing this come to frontpage after two months makes me realize a silent protest on this site for two weeks would completely wreck it.
Imagine a situation whereby all users agree to not post even an alphabet for two weeks, this cheap forum would close down.

We the members make this forum, not the other way around.

Nairaland offers us an opportunity to share knowledge.

The model is not yet perfect but we are getting there.

At least we are on fp today.

Delay ain't denial

God bless bro.

Funjosh:
Very Good and Informative

Thank you Funjosh,

I advise you take a step today and become a farmer.

iNanaAma:
Tx.
Am interested in knowing the unused fridge technique.

Additiinally these insects am talkin about are seemingly from nowhere.
All they do is appear within the shells.

My first encounter with them was wen i lifted a shell and saw them in instead. The shell was light and there was no liquid in it.
The insects are very pale looking, almost colourless and so tiny you would think they are part of ghe liquid in the shells.
Aside the eggs, i have never encounted them before. They do not grow into larger insects or other recognisable animals.

They just consume the eggs.

They seem to generate out of "nowhere" because they are actually hatched larvae of some insects. Some insects lay their eggs in or on the shells so that their young ones will have a healthy start to life (at our eggs expense. We no go agree).

This is also the case when the fly lays its eggs in a mature snail and the "maggots" larvae kills them.

Do a restart of your farm.

Change the substrate and bio secure your pens.


...as for the "fridge incubator" ..... eggs can be put in trays (sandwiched between moist soil) and placed in the different layers of the disused fridge) .

What I am skeptic about is the need for air inflow.

A bowl of water can be put in there to maintain high relative humidity.

iNanaAma:
Hiii
Js reading ur posts. V educative. Kuudos

Wanna find out hw u protect against the tiny insects that parasite on snail eggs and hatchlings.
They infiltrated and consumed all my eggs.

Secondly can eggs be placed in the fridge for hatching?

Hello and sorry about the late reply. (I have been neck deep in new projects. Not that I am complaining. MORE PROJECTS ARE WELCOME!).

To your questions,

1. To protect Against flying insects, a layer of "mosquito or window netting" in addition to chicken wire will deter most insecta from accessing your pens.
For crawling insects, apply insect powder (Piff paff , Rambo etc) around the outer fringes of your pens. Engine oil can be messy .

Note. If you already have a huge infestation, I suggest removing your stock and sterilization of the soil substrate.

2. Do you mean a working fridge? No no no. Eggs require a temperature range of about 28-32 degrees Celsius. A working fridge will give you frozen eggs.
Note. I can see an adaptation for an incubator with an old disused fridge in my head right now. I might be able to work out a good one if it was all I had.

Please continue with soil and tray method or leave the eggs in the pen soil (after dealing with the insect problem).


Cheers.

MadCow1:
Using the refusal of the Governor to sponsor Muslims to Mecca as an excuse not to have a State End of year Carnival is Ludacris.



Saudi Arabia makes billions of Dollars yearly from these pilgrimages that are sponsored by the Government.

The Pilgrimage isn't fair to all as not 'ALL' muslims get to participate in the Pilgrimage, only those who can lobby the powers that be ever get to go. A State Fair/carnival gives equal access to everyone. Attracts Tourists and by default brings money into the State. Trade and Commerce will boom as both petty traders who deal in small items ranging from pure water to souvenirs will all make money. Hotel and Tourism will also boom.


But on the down side; The state of Insecurity in the North at this time is not encouraging at all and may have a great adverse effect on the carnival. Turn out will be low and even those who show up are literally sitting ducks for a Booko Haram Suicide bomber.



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We are a rectangular state abi?

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I go by the name of LordHugo...

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Shepherd or leader // Hunter or Hider
Whether a lawyer // Doctor or Teacher
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Airforce1:
This guy no get sense

If Tsibo (The person you say no get sense) put N20,000,000 for your career, i am sure you still wont blow.

All i pray for is a peaceful outcome.


Let's learn to accept court judgments.

drealaz24:
I shall be going into snail farming in less than two months time. I am just abt to acquire 3plots of land. snail farming and probably with plantain

pls highly experienced snail farmers shud signify. thanks

Have you carried out this project?

okith:
Very informative. Thanks LordHugo. Can you please give more information about the electric incubator?

Thanks again

Please call or whatsapp 0.8030964896 to order your electric incubators.

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W3xy1:
the eggs have started hatching.. Which type of food should i feed them with

Soft and fresh vegetables.
They need all the moisture they can get.

Pawpaw, watermelon.....etc

I had my mind on a flashsale for later this afternoon (D PS4 at 45% off. Yes! I De play game for old age.) BUT DECIDED TO START SHOPPING FROM THE HOT 2 BY MIDNIGHT.

1. I could not get the Hot 2.

2. I decided check for "other phones" if I could find a "normal good Friday deal". (Of course those "90% off " are limited) . NONE!!! just their normal prices in the usual fashion of 13% , 15% , 22% off. But of course we know say that na another "white lie". We know the price for market.

3. Noticed the main deals on offer (real deals) where in fashion and some small home appliances.

Lalasticlala , this is a developing story you need to push.

Modified- The best place to get deals are China based web malls. Gearbest , coolicool and aliexpress of course.

You can see "50%" and you will not experience heart attack trying to get it. Lol.

Make sure you hold your ATM card.

W3xy1:
my snails have started laying eggs. But the stuff are damn too small. Is this hw snails eggs are?

Those are snail eggs alright.

Give them a moist (not wet) soil to great on and you will be a snail daddy in less than 21 days.

easy66:
Thank A Lot For Your Lecture,It Is Very Interesting,But The Snails Lay egg underground how will i know when they lay them.thanks.

Use your fingers to disturb the top soil around the edges of your pen. The clusters of "gold" won't be hard to miss.

Also, anywhere there is an egg, dig further carefully. There are bound to be more.

plopapy:
For intensive and free range snail farm setting up, and management, treatment of all kinds of snail disease and infection, management and control, questions and solutions for u. call me at 08135634933.

Good morning sir,
Do you really treat snail "disease and infection"?

Please, I know you have experience in the field. You should be stating you can provide pest and predator free housing, best management practices , feed solutions and so on.

A "diseased or sick" snail dies more often than not.
I am sure you don't have snail drugs as is the case in treatment of other farmed animals.
Just my humble opinion and I might be wrong.

Peace bruh!

diddo:
Thanks a lot chairman. I have learnt a lot from your post and I have followed attentively. ill like to start up a snail farm, but my house is all concrete. is it possible to have a cage constructed, or do I use car tyres? or can you help me construct a cage? what will you recommend?

if I use car tyres, what do I place at the bottom, soil? and how do I prevent rain from entering?
where do I get snails from sef? what size is best to buy?

my total budget for this venture is 30,000 for the snails and d housing. thank you sir, hope my questions are not too many

I would advice you build pens with cement blocks.

I just finished a job upgrading a rotting wooden pen .

The pics will give you an idea.

NOTE- I RECOMMEND FREE RANGE SNAIL FARMING BUT YOUR FLOOR IS CEMENTED.
FREE RANGE SYSTEM CAN BE SETUP FOR PRIVATE USE ON ABOUT 5SQM. IT CAN FORM A GARDEN AND WOULD PROVIDE YOUR FAMILY VEGETABLES SUCH AS CABBAGES , CARROTS, TOMATOES ON A REGULAR.

FOR A PLOT OF LAND (60X120 FEET, A 15,000 CAPACITY CAN BE PUT IN PLACE. MODERN "STRESSLESS" FARMING. DECENT PROFIT MARGINS AFTER 8-12 MONTHS OF SETUP.

OR THE INDUSTRIAL TYPE FOR 20ACRES I HAVE ALWAYS DREAMED OF AND WORKING TOWARDS THAT CAN RAISE 1.8MILLION THEORETICALLY.

WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY IN ESSENCE?

...SNAIL FARMING CAN BE DONE ON ANY SCALE AND THE BASIC PRINCIPLES HOLD AS THE MODEL BECOMES LARGER.

Your 30,000 can build you 2 pens of 3blocks by 9blocks to 2blocks in height. That's 3x2 + 9x2 all multiplied by 2 (the height). 48 Blocks in all. Buy 55 Anyways!

2X2 wood lids framed with chicken wire and net mesh should form the pen cover.

Fill with sterile sandy loam and follow the other things you have learned on the thread.

Today is your lucky day mate as I usually charge for such information. (Who wants a competition anyways?).

Stay good.

Snail farming is a slow but stable way of making money. I can however maximise your margins by integrating mixed organic farming into the mix.

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londongal03:
you must be into women!

Just following nature's expectations.

I shouldn't be into men.


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cordj2:
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Thanks a lot Mr R., looking forward to more business with you.
Have a blessed day...everyday!

oduz:
Kudos Mr Ugo

Thanks You Sir!

W3xy1:
i cant get limestone but can i feed them with natural chalk instead?? nzu in ibo language

Nzu is not Pure Calcium carbonate which your snails need.

Nzu is a clay. Kaolinite i think (If my Geology is still fresh).

EverestdeBliu:
sorry I meant DAY. Like the ones Op posted

It is not economically wise to buy hatchlings.

Buy breeders and grow your farm is you are interested sir.

ViktorMartins:


Actually, from your last point; you have taken a closer look at the apex? What does that give you? A.M? Or A.A?
What's the essence of adding the radula part? Ask him his mortality rate and you will know why you should use logic instead of texts!
Nah! A silt-loam soil doesn't kill off eggs easily, where did you get that from?
Cutting pawpaw into slices doesn't help the snails? Oh, really! I belief you need to deal practically with these things than just lifting things outta someone's else publications!

Have a wonderful week ahead, Mr. Lordhugo

Take a trip down my profile.

Never assume.

Accepting when you know not is the beginning of knowledge.

and yes, i own snail farms. (farms as in plural).

internetpo:
pls advice what's the solution to ants attacking the snails. My sister's farm is having a problems of ant infestation and they killing the snails. the pens are made of wood and these black soldier ants live inside..

The housing is not pest secure.

remove the snails, pack out the soil substrate.

you need to seal up the pen ground. the ants burrow up from their nests into the pen in search of food.

You can heat the soil substrate by placing and tying in nylons and heating in huge pots or drums with water. Steaming is the key.

Replace soil in pen and reintroduce snails after cooling.

ViktorMartins:


You might be right but I think the hutchbox is too tall hence my suggestion
Shelter? He is already using an hutchbox, they have shelter already and I advise he plants coco yam if he wants real covering; covering is different from shelter bruh!

First of all, none of what you said above corroborates with your original comment below...#

JJKADRY. Nice try but I noticed you didn't cut the unripe pawpaw into small sizes, it will save the snails a Lotta strength when eating.
Again, that soil looks sordic maybe it's your camera resolution tho, try and get moist silt-loam
Finally, what breed is that? It looks Archachatina marginata to me, is it?

In your first bolded, cutting up food does not help snails in any way. Baby snails or adults. The scratch with tiny teeth on their tongue called a radula. It is the strongest organic matter in the whole world. (google and be educated).Chopping up feed will only accelerate decay.

In your second bolded, a soil that is silty-loam is too water retaining and will kill off eggs easily. The OP has a sandy-clay soil. It would help him to get increase the organic component of his soil substrate anyways.

Lastly, you mentioned those look like A. Marginata. Marginata hatchings are bigger and darker. I am sorry but even though the camera is blurry, such a hatch number (at the same time from the same clutch) can only be observed in A.A populations. A.Achatina it is.

Happy sunday

W3xy1:
how many times should someone feed them daily or weekly to avoid overfeeding

Sorry for the late reply sir,

You should feed only when feed is exhausted in the pens.

You should also remove rottening foods and replace with fresh feeds.

Its best to understand them and give them a day's worth of feed at a time.

ViktorMartins:
JJKADRY. Nice try but I noticed you didn't cut the unripe pawpaw into small sizes, it will save the snails a Lotta strength when eating.
Again, that soil looks sordic maybe it's your camera resolution tho, try and get moist silt-loam
Finally, what breed is that? It looks Archachatina marginata to me, is it?

I am sorry but the OP is totally correct in using a large contiguous slice of pawpaw.

1. The flat planar areas help the young snails in moving around quicker.

2. The huge size of pawpaw has a large surface area. Less amount of area for bacteria to work on. Simply put, decay will be slowed.

3. The huge slice also serves as shelter for the young snails. This is especially true of using cabbage leaves.

EverestdeBliu:
what's the cost of the year old snails?

We should be careful not to mistake age with price.

I discussed price under the premise that the snails were raised under 'organic and innovative methods'.

For a well "farm raised" 1 year old snail....350-400 is achievable.

Snails from the wild or improperly fed and managed would take 2 years to attain that size and hence, market price.

For snails, size is price...not age.