QuinQQ: You are the one being obtuse. We're discussing certainties in basic building blocks of life (QM), and you have declared: "Bro stop being silly...no aspect of QM says you cannot be certain", when that's exactly what aspects of QM say. See below again
Bro this what I got when I put in the same question. Why are they different?
As the underlined states you are certainly being obtuse.
This is the thing with you people, you start denying reality just to defend your god beliefs. How does claiming that reality is not real help your case for magic space wizard?
Bro why are you being this deliberately obtuse? Might there does not mean there is a probability that it doesn't exist. Why choose to be silly to defend this god? it doesn't make sense that you have to make up stories to defend a god you claim exists. It just shows you are deceiving yourself.
QuinQQ: HUP combined with other aspects of QM obviously. Mind you those tiniest particles of QM are the building blocks of everything. Just as in QM you're only talking probabilities NOT certainties, so also in macro life - there is a possibility what you're looking at exists, not certainty. There is no certainty anywhere
Bro stop being silly and google what HUP says. There is no aspect of QM that says you cannot be certain, don't be making up trash to defend your magic space wizard.
VaginaAcademic: If you grew up in a Nigerian home in the 80s, 90s, or early 2000s, chances are you heard one warning over and over again:
"Don't use white Maggi!"
Some families claimed it caused hypertension. Others said it could lead to stroke, blindness, or mysterious illnesses. In many homes, it was completely banned.
But here's the interesting part: most of those same families were unknowingly consuming the very thing they were trying to avoid.
So how did AJI-NO-MOTO®, popularly known as "white Maggi," become one of the most misunderstood food seasonings in history?
The Origin of the Fear
The controversy dates back to 1968 when a doctor in the United States wrote a letter describing numbness and dizziness after eating at a Chinese restaurant. He speculated that Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) might have been responsible.
The media quickly picked up the story and coined the term "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome."
As the story spread across the world, MSG developed a bad reputation despite years of scientific research that failed to establish it as the cause of those symptoms in the general population. Unfortunately, the fear had already taken root and eventually reached Africa, including Nigeria.
Why Nigerians Called It "White Maggi"
Unlike the familiar brown seasoning cubes, AJI-NO-MOTO comes in the form of white, crystal-like granules that resemble sugar or salt.
To many people, it simply looked like a laboratory chemical rather than a food ingredient.
That appearance alone fueled countless rumours. People claimed it caused high blood pressure, kidney problems, stroke, blindness, and even sudden death. None of these claims were backed by solid scientific evidence, but they spread rapidly through word of mouth.
The "Lazy Cook" Label
Another reason many households rejected it had nothing to do with health.
AJI-NO-MOTO is pure MSG, a flavour enhancer that boosts the savoury taste (known as umami) in food. Even a simple soup can taste richer with just a small amount.
Because of this, many experienced mothers and grandmothers believed using it was a shortcut. In some homes, it became associated with people who couldn't cook properly.
A good cook, they argued, should rely on fresh ingredients, crayfish, stock, pepper, onions, and long hours of cooking—not "white Maggi."
As a result, using it became almost a badge of laziness in some communities.
The Great Irony
Here's where the story becomes truly fascinating.
Many families proudly refused to allow AJI-NO-MOTO into their kitchens, believing they were avoiding MSG.
Yet almost every day they used seasoning cubes such as Maggi, Knorr, Royco, and similar brands.
What many people didn't realise was that these seasoning cubes often contain Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) as one of their ingredients.
In other words, they weren't avoiding MSG at all—they were simply rejecting the pure, unblended version while happily consuming it in mixed seasonings.
What Does Science Say Today?
Today, major international food safety authorities, including the World Health Organization (WHO), the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA), consider MSG safe for the general population when consumed in normal amounts as part of food.
While a small number of people may report temporary sensitivity after consuming large quantities without food, decades of research have not supported the widespread belief that MSG causes the long list of illnesses often attributed to it.
As with salt and other seasonings, moderation remains important.
Looking Back
The story of "white Maggi" is one of the greatest food myths many Nigerians grew up with.
A combination of global misinformation, local rumours, and cultural beliefs transformed a simple flavour enhancer into something many families feared.
Ironically, countless homes that banned AJI-NO-MOTO continued using seasoning cubes containing the same ingredient every single day.
So here's the question for tonight's discussion:
Did your family ban "white Maggi"?
If they did, what reason were you given?
Was it said to cause stroke, hypertension, blindness, "wash the stomach," or something even more interesting?
Let's hear the stories.
We used to dump the stuff in our food back in the day in boarding school. I loved it and was kinda sad it got a bad rep.
QuinQ: The principle is just one aspect. Combine with other aspects of QM. The operative word is "uncertainty", you can't be sure of anything. Can you be sure a particle you're observing actually exists. No you can't
Bwahahahahahahaha! Bro you have no clue! HUP doesn't say you can't be sure of anything. Stop yapping ignorant trash and google what it is before you respond.
Bro you are just making shit up as we go, it's obvious.
BTW what other aspect of the very measurable QM applies to this your god that you said cannot be measured.
QuinQ: Ever heard of Heisenberg uncertainty principle? Same applies to God. In fact same generally applies - you'll never be absolutely sure of anything
Bro, Heisenberg uncertainty principle is not mumbo jumbo, fairytale like your god is. It merely seeks to explain how quantum particles behave. Besides you said your god can't be measured so how does the HUP apply? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
If i may ask. How many countries do you know about the welfare of people existing there and who are those giving you first hand information?
I will first answer. There is no country on this planet where my fellow believers in Christ are not preaching and teaching so they tell us what is happening in the most interior part of all these countries so as to know how we can help those who have become members of our faith.
Now answer the same question!🙂 How many countries do you know about the welfare of people existing there and who are those giving you first hand information?
How do you help? Do you give them food, shelter or clothing? Do you alleviate their suffering in any way?
Gabrielshow26: Fair point. Still, there are things that are not feelings induced... They just are. While there are people that base their beliefs on feelings there are others that have experienced it. It's not advisable to compare sleep with death.
God is truth and logic is a medium of attaining such truth. The belief in God has its own rationale and it's not based on feelings induced by the works of chemicals in the brain. Well, not to generalize it, at least my belief isn't based on my feelings.
Do you accept that something can be logical and still false?
WatchYourSix: Its clear u just want to answer question with question to evade addressing the point…:: if u dont want to respond why the man’s change of life doesnt sit well with you …..its fine …..
Bro I don't even know how his life changed so how can it sit well or not sit well? How Am I supposed to respond to something I don't know?
WatchYourSix: Yeah… ur question triggered my question because I was curious as to why a man’s claim of positive change of life didn’t sit too well with you…
How did you get that it doesn't sit well because I asked how his life changed?
Godspowerpro: Psalm 150:6 KJV [6] Let every thing that hath breath Praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.
Most Christians know about the feeding of the five thousand. Almost nobody notices the feeding of the four thousand is a completely different event with a completely different meaning.
The feeding of the five thousand occurs in all four Gospels — Jesus feeding a Jewish crowd in the region of Galilee with five loaves and two fish, with twelve baskets of fragments collected afterward. The number twelve would have carried immediate resonance for any Jewish reader — twelve tribes of Israel, twelve disciples, twelve as the number of completeness for the covenant people.
Feeding Five Thousand Mark 6:34-38, 41-44 KJV [34] And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things. [35] And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed: [36] send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat. [37] He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat? [38] He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes. [41] And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all. [42] And they did all eat, and were filled. [43] And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes. [44] And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
Then in Matthew 15 and Mark 8, a second feeding miracle occurs. Four thousand people. Seven loaves and a few fish. Seven baskets collected afterward.
Feeding Four Thousand Mark 8:5-9 KJV [5] And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven. [6] And he commanded the people to sit down on the ground: and he took the seven loaves, and gave thanks, and brake, and gave to his disciples to set before them; and they did set them before the people. [7] And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before them. [8] So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets. [9] And they that had eaten were about four thousand: and he sent them away.
The location is the first key. Mark 7:31 specifies that this miracle occurs in the region of the Decapolis — the group of ten largely Gentile cities on the eastern and southeastern side of the Sea of Galilee. Jesus has just healed a deaf and mute man whose friends brought him in an episode where Jesus uses physical gesture and saliva — healing methods more familiar in the Gentile world than in Jewish practice. The crowd that has been with him for three days eating nothing is a Gentile crowd.
The numbers are the second key. Seven in Jewish numerology was the number of completion for the nations — God rested on the seventh day, bringing creation to its full completion. Seven loaves, seven baskets — the language of completeness for a people who are not Israel but are equally fed by the same hands.
Jesus did not perform the same miracle twice by accident or because the tradition confused two memories of one event. He performed it once in Jewish territory and once in Gentile territory, with numbers that said, to anyone who was listening carefully, that what he had done for Israel he was also doing for the nations.
The same bread. The same miracle. Different numbers that meant everything.
GODSPOWERPROJECT
When is any Christian alive today gonna repeat this miracle? Has your god become powerless or like I can say with a high degree of confidence, doesn't exist?
jesusjnr2020: "Not From A Christian Home, But Met Jesus, He Changed My Life" - Maxence LaCroix
In his first official interview, Chelsea's new signing, Maxence LaCroix, said he wasn't born into a Christian family but he met Jesus a few years ago and Jesus changed his life.
Until Peller's wedding I had never heard Ochacho associated with Peller so hearing he gifted Peller a 400m house I was very doubtful it was real. And this just serves to solidify my thoughts.
basilico: The elites of the left know what they are doing.Want a fractured divided society which makes it easier to win electrons. The foolish liberals follow them blindly even when the elites are pushing a real absurdity.
Yeah the ones asking for more inclusion are the ones dividing society not the ones shouting go back to your country.
QuinQQ: Of course, you ought know better. This is spiritual energy, an invisible, non-physical life force that animates living things. It is also known in various traditions as chi, prana, life force, etc
raumdeuter: While a Black guy endorsed by Trump for governor won the primary against 3 white guys
James was already a House of Rep member, he is a well established politician. Hassan had the "misfortune" of having a Muslim name, he literally had to do a video stating he is not an immigrant nor is he Muslim.
To show you that the racist dog whistles are working on Republicans, the black former Muslim Trump endorsed lost the primary in Michigan to a white guy who raised less than $2000. LoLz.
Tomiwa3108: Hello Nairalanders I got this new nexus freezer Nx160hce on about 4 days ago , and I noticed that the freezer freezes at the top to the middle part while the lower part is cold but not freeze yet , although it haven’t run for over 6 hours straight due to the power supply . It is still going to freeze to the lower part as time past or I should return it
There are usually no cooling channels in the bottoms of refrigerating units so the cooling comes in from the sides. Your unit is operating normally.
raumdeuter: You are quite d u ll which is why its easy to deceive you. Even an article you brought, you couldn't read properly, A perfect leftist who cannot read and make logical conclusion
Bro you're a n u m p t y asking ridiculous questions because it is breeze blowing between your ears. My joy though is that Quislings like you are not many or in a position to stop these people from receiving their due.
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raumdeuter: Never thought I could see this type of cluelessness in real life but here we are. The left has them in huge numbers
Bro 3 fingers right back you. You would win gold medal in the clueless Olympics and if they were handing out Nobel prizes for cluelessness you'd be the first recipient.
raumdeuter: If you have have characteristics that match the individuals being found its legit to ask you questions whether you are later found innocent or guilty
If a young boy of between age 20-30 commits a crime, its not sexist to question every boy between that age range
Its basic common sense which leftists like you do not have.
All these emotional rants do not apply in real world. Its the extreme lack of logic, poor education and emotional responses
What kind of vapidity is this? What has age and sex got to do with racism for the love of Andromeda?
raumdeuter: Educated people know that when majority of illegal immigrants have a particular characteristics, then the majority of those arrested will have the same
You are already a lemming to the left which is why you dont think
Yo n u m p t y there are citizens and legal residents with the same characteristics, which only serves to highlight the racist nature of the policy but it is just breeze passing between your ears so how will you reason.
Family › Re: Why Government Should Ban DNA Testing Of Minors by LordReed(m): 7:22pm On Aug 09
