₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
Not when it began, when it happened. Did this incident happen in 2026 or when

Yes 2026.

QuinQ:
Not in the way you spin it. The essence of God is sustaining his creation and energy is part of that. Read what I wrote from the beginning!

Bro why lying korokoro? You wrote "God is energy, that's the essence of God." What kind of lie is to say you were saying something different?

Are you so discombobulated that you've resorted to lying?

raumdeuter:
Headlines always deceive you

When did the discrimination activity happen

It doesn't matter when it began, CURRENT black employees were affected.

QuinQ:
I said energy is from God and energy is of God and God is energy. Never said energy is the essence of God

Bro was it your ghost who wrote:

QuinQ:
This is what I mean by convoluted. God is energy -,that's the essence of God. That's what sustains his creation!

QuinQ:
Here are the qualities of God below. Ask your questions framed by these attributes and we will see who is getting a lesson in reasoning:

Outside time and space: God is immaterial and exists outside our reality, outside time and space.
Omnipotent: God is all-powerful and has total control over the universe.
Omniscient: God knows everything—past, present, and future.
Omnipresent: God is fully present everywhere at all times.
Eternal: God has no beginning and no end.
Immutable: God never changes in His character or purpose.

It was the same you who claimed energy is the essence of the god wasn't it?

QuinQ:
This is beyond ridiculous. You are asking these kind of questions about God that exists outside everything you know! Why not ask if he brushes his teeth?

God is way beyond anything you can conceive of

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Bro answer the question and stop dodging. Are you not the one claiming you know the god exists? LoLz.

Bro your responses are so weak. I expected better from someone who claimed to defeat me.

DMCA:
Leave my QuinQQ delulu darling alone.

QuinQ is getting a lesson in reasoning. LoLz.

RealityKings1:
For you, Time exist the moment you were born. Then what happens when you are no more? Does the change stop or does it continue?

How does this answer the questions I posed to you?

The questions again: How can it be beyond and yet act in time? That is an incoherent position. Time is a measure of change. How did it do anything if there was no change aka no time?

QuinQ:
If the big bang did not come from nothing, it means there is something beyond the big bang. Right?
It is not everything I confirm to you with AI. You ought know intuitively that there is something beyond Big Bang. Infact there could be a multiverse.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Bro the universe is ALL that is. There can be no outside. ALL means ALL.

Your god exists nowhere (spaceless) and at no time (timeless), your god doesn't exist at all. LoLz.

QuinQ:
God is the unchanging source of changeable energy and all there is

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahha! BRO! YOU claimed that energy is the essence of your god. How is the essense of your god changing and the god remains unchanged?? Is this logical to you??

Meanwhile lemme destroy this talking point. Does your god have thoughts? Was there a point in when he decided to make anything? Answer o don't dodge. LoLz.

QuinQ:
You were already asked how do YOU yourself know anything. Descartes only knew he existed - that's it, nothing else! Do you know better than Descartes?

Bro you can't ask a question as answer to a question. I am not asking how you know things in general I am asking HOW you KNOW that it is a god living in a timeless, spaceless locus.

QuinQ:
Yaba Left, notice how I'm beating LordReed black and blue with pure logic. He'd later claim he didn't lose. Just follow

LoLz. Bro you are floundering. Is this how you make yourself feel better? Bwahahahahahahaha!

QuinQ:
It is actually the opposite. The time that u tie to change is an illusion. So is spacetime. The only time that exists and that will always exist is now. There is no past or future - everything is contained in now. It is not like space that cannot exist without measurement!

Here we go, The retreat into solipsism. You guys can't help yourselves. Wherever a theist gets cornered on fundamentals of the universe they retreat into solipsism, the "universe is not real", "time doesn't exist", "energy doesn't exist". LoLz. SMH

QuinQ:
See question. HOW do you yourself know anything? Certain things make logical sense. It DOES NOT make logical sense that the universe has always existed - which is your position!

Bro stop dodging the question. You are becoming an artful dodger. LoLz.

HOW do you KNOW. Logic is not knowledge.

QuinQ:
Are we now in elementary school? Energy can change but is never destroyed

So your god changes then?

QuinQ:
I already told you, I use Google to show you that MY already arrived-at conclusion also has support!

Once again, we can only say what makes sense to a human being, what is logical. We can't say what is finally true. For example, it doesn't make sense that the Big Bang caused itself from nothing. Therefore the logical thing is that there was something before that

Please answer the question and stop dodging. Ask AI if there is an outside to the universe and come post the answer here to support your claim as you said.

Logic is not about what makes sense to a human being, it is about what is consistent with reality.

Nobody said the big bang came from nothing, so you are just strawmanning here.

QuinQ:
First of all you use AI more than me. I THINK! That's what I'm good at. I'm NOT good at regurgitation.

I already answered this. I asked you, how do you know anything? We don't know anything finally. It is either something is logical or it is not.
It is logical that whatever caused the Big Bang is outside the Big Bang!

Bro I am not the one always quoting AI summaries and putting AI screenshots that's you. Meanwhile you still didn't answer the question. What you are good at is dodging.

Logic is not knowledge. Logic is used to maintain consistency.

There is no outside to the universe so your answer is not logical.

QuinQ:
This is what I mean by convoluted. God is energy -,that's the essence of God. That's what sustains his creation!

Great. So does energy change?

LordReed:
Ask AI (your favourite method) if there is an outside to the universe. LoLz.

Meanwhile are you conceding that you don't KNOW, that you are merely conjecturing this god?

QuinQ these questions.

QuinQ:
I find your reasoning rather convoluted. Are you saying God only creates what he doesn't have??
Why can't God create "energy" via the big bang

You find it convoluted because you don't want to reason. If your god created energy then energy didn't exist until the act of creation. Which is nonsense because then it means you are saying your god existed WITHOUT any energy until it was created.

Energy existed before the big bang so it was not created. Meanwhile was it not you who said energy cannot be created?

RealityKings1:
Whoever made the system, exist outside of all timelines

How can it be beyond and yet act in time? That is an incoherent position. Time is a measure of change. How did it do anything if there was no change aka no time?

QuinQ:
You keep saying this. We KNOW time, space, and matter started with the Big Bang. God is before that therefore he is timeless, spaceless, and immaterial!

The question again HOW do you know? You conjectured? You guessed? You have evidence? HOW do you KNOW?

QuinQ:
Yes of course. Very defeated. It has been proven that universe can't be eternal

LoLz! Is that why you keep dodging questions?


You still haven't answered the question bro.

RealityKings1:
Human thoughts and conception is conditioned to be limited to what it can observe

Ok so you don't know you are just guessing.

raumdeuter:
Systemic racism is when there are laws or institutions that intentionally discriminate based on race
There is no systemic racism in the USA where I live

Bruh

RealityKings1:
Good point.
The controller is always outside the main system

How can there be any outside of the universe if the universe is the sum total of all that exists?

LordReed:
Ask AI (your favourite method) if there is an outside to the universe. LoLz.

Meanwhile are you conceding that you don't KNOW, that you are merely conjecturing this god?

QuinQ still waiting for an answer.

LoLz. How are you finding the discussion? Do you still think I was defeated? Bwahahahahahahaha!

QuinQ:
What does this statement mean?:
If you claim your god created energy then it means your god exists without energy

Bottom line, yiu can't point to anything and say this is height. Likewise energy. They are attributes we assign to things

Yes MEASUREABLE THINGS.

My question is where did energy come from? You CANNOT say your god created it because it will mean your god existed at some point without energy which would be a dumb claim. And you cannot claim energy always existed which will invalidate the necessity for a god. Either way your case is screwed.

CoolUsername:
This is a self-defeating argument. One event preceding another already means time exists. To say something preceded the big bang is essentially saying that time existed before the beginning of time. This is incoherent.

Even if it was the case, it just means time is infinite and still defeats his argument.

QuinQ:
But scientists and mathematicians have determined there are upwards of 12 dimensions, yet it is impossible for you to conceive of there being more than 4.
We KNOW we don't know about 99% of what there is to know.

physical space and time had a beginning (the Big Bang), meaning whatever caused or sustained them must logically precede and sit outside them!

Ask AI (your favourite method) if there is an outside to the universe. LoLz.

Meanwhile are you conceding that you don't KNOW, that you are merely conjecturing this god?

Nostalemate:
Nice...@LordReed you were contacted via the WhatsApp number you gave in your email reply but you ignored the message there in.

Shout-out to all chess players on nairaland earning big via the game.

Oh sorry I was occupied by so many things. I will respond.

QuinQ:
We intrinsically know there are things we don't know and can't even conceive of. Example, diagram below is how things really are; but we can't conceive it. Another example, illusion of time - only now is real. Another example, illusion of free will

Bro you just keep dodging the questions. How do you know it exists in this no place, no time locus? Don't dodge.