benalvino3: Bayelsaowei will tell you they have not been at war with the US. I can list time and time again they attacked in United States (army, citizens, embassy, etc.)
benalvino3: It does not matter. Trump himself said he will do to war with Iran in the 80s. So what he said about Obama in 2011 is just his personal feud with Obama.
Right now, he is doing the right thing.
Kindly show me where he said he would go to war eith Iran in the 80s.
Motorists plying the Jere-Abuja road were left stunned on after thick white foam was seen bubbling out of the ground. The unusual sight drew crowds, with some drivers parking to investigate while others went downhill to confirm if it was really foam or something else. Residents are now asking what could be responsible for the strange occurrence.
QuinQ: I finf it unbelievable that a somewhat intelligent person cannot see that if 25% is the rate for everybody, then the rate in the particular group we're talking about (settled families without issues) must be far smaller than that. See it spelt out for you below.
As for "eugenics", today is NOT 1940. See below
Bro how is the law going to distinguish what a settled family is? Why does the law remove the right of a man to dispel any doubts he or anyone else has about the paternity of his children? Abi you think the law is a mind reader? LoLz.
Technology is not the problem, it is HOW it is implemented. And you want the state to do it. The state MUST use FORCE to implement such a thing.
You are just refusing to consider anything that opposes your idea. I think I am satisfied with the discussion, I won't be responding to you any more.
QuinQ: He keeps talking about the state taking away rights like it's a new thing. How does it concern the state what you do with another consenting adult behind closed does? But the state will jail you 14 years for it! How does it concern the state that you grow Marijuana in your room and smoke it? But you'll go to jail for it! This particular law is just to discourage (not force) men from going on expensive unwarranted DNA fishing expedition of teenagers that can only lead to broken homes, fatherless children, and destruction of trust within the home. But instead encourage them that those are already their children despite the 5% chance they're not, and they should instead focus on raising them to maturity!
You have Nazi in the brain. So if Nazis had tried AI, that means it is taboo to humans forever?!
Bro you keep bringing examples of things that were not legal in the first place. Selling or growing marijuana was not legal nor was homosexuality relations so there was no right being taken away. Even if it was the case that they were legal and the right was taken away do you think it is a good thing for the state to take away rights?
DNA testing of minors is legal but you want that right taken away because whatever weird idea you have in your head.
Bro you are fascist adjacent and it is very clear. You are not appealing to people to consider this, you are asking the state to take away a right. That is what fascists do.
The Nazis tried many things both good and bad but you my friend went to pick the bad ideas and are complaining when told you are peddling a bad idea. LoLz.
basilico: Good question. Trump appointed Cris Wray on recommendations from former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. A greenhorn entering the WH gets recommendations from his allies on whom to appoint. Trump sure made bad appointments ,worst being Cris Wray and Jeffery Sessions. Other bad appointments include John Bolton and Bill Barr. Mile Pence the traitor stands heads and shoulders above them . Senate has rejected many presidential nominees like Merrick Garland during Obama time . Matt Gaetz couldn't pass Senate last year. as AG. Senate has not filled . 38 US Attorneys have not been vetted by current Senate ,a feature that allowed James Comey and Big Tish Letitia James cases to be thrown out
Senators horse trade on appointments,, doing this gives them boners. Cris Wray passed Senate confirmation 92-5 ,which tells you the Democrats and RINOs wanted him.
Chris Wray the Trump appointed FBI director appointed Nikki Floris but somehow it is our problem?
QuinQ: I actually didn't just guess. I looked at this statistics shown below (1-4%), then combined it with the one you showed (25%), to arrive at the less than 10%. Common sense.
Never mind lebels or what Nazi's did, just tell us (without name-calling or insults) why it is bad to try to eliminate bad and disease-prone genes from the human gene pool through gene selection, then tell us how you'd rather do it.
Bro is there a worldwide government capable of banning DNA testing? I dunno why you want to play the ostrich on this.
Wow! He is still on the eugenics track. Men I now have confirmation of what kind of person you are.
QuinQ: You keep citing 15 pages and labeling things and saying what Nazi's did - without presenting any argument whatsoever! You write, "The issue here is he wants the state to curtail the rights of EVERY MAN", doesn't the state usually curtail your rights when it is deemed in society's interest? Can you grow and smoke Marijuana in your room? Can you sex or marry a 16 year old? So talkin about the state curtailing rights is no argument.
Like I said, never mind lebels or what Nazi's did, just tell us (without name-calling or insults) why it is bad to try to eliminate bad and disease-prone genes from the human gene pool through gene selection, then tell us how you'd rather do it. Just state your own points as I do, and repeat them if necessary so no one can pretend not to understand - just as I do!
LoLz. Is this an argument? You like the state taking away what is already your right?
I didn't know you like Nazi ideology. You should have lead with that so we know where you are coming from.
Calling something Nazi ideology is an insult? Bwahahahahaha! Bro you ain't ready for this I tell you.
ValeeLove: the fact that I have information on ground today doesn't mean I have to produce a book right away. My point is producing the book later on doesn't mean the information wasn't obtained from first-hand encounter.
Bro how do you KNOW Matthew and John wrote the books?
ValeeLove: I'll have to get back to you on this, but from what I know the greek word there is a verb and not a noun, meaning he was most likely put in charge during Herod's reign before he officially became an actual governor.
Bro Herod was not alive in the first century. Can you see how you are having to revise the words you claim are from eyewitnesses and divine inspiration? You don't even have confidence in the words as they are written because they contradict facts.
correctguy101: The bolded is true even in my case. The child I regard as my first son isn't my biological child. I took him and his mother in back in the day. We are no longer together but the boy is still with me.
But I sure wouldn't accept it if she were to get pregnant with another man's child when we were together. It's just too much to ask from me.
If such matters are forced, I doubt there'll ever be happily married men or fathers for that matter. I know women would thoroughly abuse such. Men would suffer.
It could even spiral into most men refusing to father any child.
The implications and consequences are numerous.
Exactly. And QuinQ wants the state to do the forcing. That is fascist territory.
ValeeLove: so who did and what evidence do you have to back it up?
The authors are unknown. There are several other reasons why we can't simply trust that the books were written eponymously. For one they were written by supposedly unlearned men in Greek. Next the earliest manuscript found so far are dated to the 2nd century so the authors can't be verified.
Now you tell me what evidence you have that they were written by Matthew and John.
[quote author=EmmyMaestro post=140048798]“I’m 41, single and searching” – Lady offers ₦10 million reward to any man who marries her
A Nigerian woman has stirred reactions online after publicly announcing that she is searching for a husband, promising to reward the man who eventually marries her with ₦10 million.
In a video shared on X (formerly Twitter), the 41-year-old said she is still single, attractive and open to finding love, urging interested men not to hesitate to approach her.
“I’m finding a husband. I’m a 41-year-old woman. If you see me and you find me interesting, toast me. If you see me and you find me attractive, toast me. I am single and searching,” she said.
The woman also described herself as wealthy, well-connected and financially stable, insisting that she has not “expired” and is still ready for marriage.
She encouraged any man who believes he is compatible with her to send her a message and begin the process of wooing her.
“I am wealthy, I am rich. I am well-connected. If you’re a man and you think you can do this with me, come to my DM and woo me. I’m going to accept you,” she added.
She further revealed that after their wedding had been properly consummated, she would gift her husband ₦10 million as a token of appreciation for marrying her.
The lady concluded by inviting interested men to post their pictures in the comment section so she could choose from them, adding that time waits for no one.
Her unusual marriage proposal has since generated mixed reactions across social media, with many Nigerians sharing their opinions on her offer.
“I’m a 41-year-old woman, if you find me attractive ask me out. I need a husband” —Woman says. pic.twitter.com/YJoN2p7HYH
correctguy101: Come on, I've told you before in another way. There's a reason for selective breeding.
And as an animal different from the rest, humans truly have a just cause to do selective breeding.
You can't decide to do it anyhow like common animals. Even in the animal world, some do choose who they mate with. Let alone humans.
Why do you think that happens?
Ya claims are not founded on solid grounds. Sorry...
Lemme share something real personal. But before I choose to have a child with any woman, she must have records that are encouraging even if you check to the third generation... My reason is simple. My Uncle...
The old boy married in the 70s one fine girl. But she has more than one person in her family that has succumbed to madness, and she's showing signs as the years pass. Today, she's semi crazy.
So how I no go wonder the pool I'm mixing my own genes with? That's why all these things gained credibility.
There are stupid women out there who go find and make out with psychopaths and total inhumane animals, whose idiocy springs from defective genes. So make we accept them too?
By my Creator, stop please. You know how many loonies dey outside? then some woman that says she's a wife would now make me take care of the child of a loonie? What if the child inherits the defective genes?
The peace of any man is self given, not even the children he has could make that possible. All they can be is an addition to the peace a man already has.
If not for my privacy I would have posted some pictures. But let's leave it at that.
Lordreed, what do you truly think about this matter our op brought up. I would like to know if it's possible for a man, aware of these possibilities to decide to be ignorant of such an easy matter as this and be happy....
I personally feel it's impossible.
Yes it is possible for a man to be aware that a child may not be his and still choose to raise the child. But the issue here is QuinQ wants the state to curtail the rights of EVERY MAN. Look now he even dreams of a state powered eugenics program. The last time we heard of something like that it was from the Nazis. Basically QuinQ is dreaming of a fascist state that forces men to father children that are not theirs. Do we need to elaborate all the ways this is a bad idea? After 15 pages of sound arguments to the contrary?
But never mind all that. what do you think of this below? Don't you think we ought be able to override our animal instinct with reasoning? Why must a person's particular genes survive? How does that benefit the person?? What do you think of this: the best women's eggs are fertilized with the best men's sperm and children mass-produced and distributed? That way evrryone experiences fatherhood and motherhood and all the children have great genes! Just say what's wrong with the plan, don't insult or call me names!
So you just guessed? You didn't look at any actually data, you are just basing your opinion on a guess!
If I talk now you will say I'm insulting you.
And to top it off you want a eugenics program. Do you need me to explain why a eugenics program is a bad idea? Not to talk of why you would choose a program similar to what the Nazi wanted.
QuinQQ: But this includes everybody. Our target audience (stable homes where the man has raised the teenager from infancy) will be less than 10%. But I commend your diligence verifying it. Most people take statistics thrown at them at face value.
The question is how do you know? Are you just guessing?
QuinQ: Now that many people have agreed with me, I want to state some of the points clearly so that (hopefully) everybody will agree with me.
**1) Birth DNA test is best because it makes this debate mute. But unfortunately we don't have that
**2) A man who has raised and loved a child from infancy to teenage IS HIS FATHER and ought focus on properly raising the precious child to maturity, instead of spending scarce resources on UNWARRANTED DNA FISHING EXPEDITIONS!
**3) Nothing wrong in the state enacting laws to encourage him do just that.
**4) 90% of DNA test cases, the husband is the biological. So we're talking about 10%. Different if the tests were free and unobtrusive. But no, they're expensive and involves the children and their mother who now know their father lacks trust in them. And lacks love for them too because if you love someone you won't be out trying to prove they're not your child! Those are enough to break up a home even if it turns out the father is the biological!
**5) Efect on society as a whole ought also be taken into account. Unwarranted DNA fishing expeditions on teenagers raised from birth can only result in possible broken homes, destruction of trust within the home, and fatherless children that'll likely end up menace to society!
**6) Govt's duty to protect life and property is not helped by broken homes and fatherless children. The main aim ought be to prevent destabilization of families and allow children be raised with both a father and a mother.
**7) Assuming test is negative, the biological will not suddenly appear!
**8} Even if you land in the 10% it is not the end of the world. Remember people pay millions for a child and others fight tooth and nail for custody. Getting a healthy child for free is not the worst thing in the world.
**9) Also remembe that throughout human history there had never been DNA tests yet we're still around and kicking. And sometimes, unbeknownst to the father, the most successful of his children is not even his biological child but he gets all the accolade as his father and the child carries his name and proudly references him as his father. How is sperm more important than that?
**10) If you study the screenshot below you'll know that many people (maybe including you) are NOT biologically related to some of their ancestors. What difference has it made??
**11) The only father who has testified on this thread wrote: "After.after the love and bonding with my children from pregnancy to infancy to adolescence, many times we've shared love, sufferings, laughter, pains and joy together then one idiot from nowhere wants to drag me to go and do DNA, as how naw?"
Hopefully everyone now agrees with me. If you still don't, all I can say is I'm sorry for you!
ValeeLove: its been said by scholars that they were multiple census and two which Quirinius oversaw. One before he was governor and one when he became one.
It explicitly says when he was governor. Herod the great died at least 10 years before Quirinius became governor so it is impossible for the story to be historically accurate.
Which leads me to conclude there was no divine hand involved in the crafting. These are just stories being told about a beloved character to promote his legend.
QuinQ: And can you please tell us why you can't stand on your own two feet? Why must you drag "we" into it?? See, you're too adversarial about the whole thing, using words like "clueless", "myopic", "puerile", "lost in dreamland", instead of simply stating your points! Which is actually a sign of someone with no cogent argument. This is a discussion, a debate, not some fight. You present your points and if someone doesn't get it or pretend they don't get it, you present it again - exactly what I do! No need for insulting or adversarial tone!
Unlike you I don't arrogantly think the ideas I dreamed up while navel gazing are supreme, I can recognise when people have excellent points. Lots of people have given you well thought out and well written rebuttals to anything you have to say and instead of considering it you just repeat your already thoroughly defeated idea.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 3:54pm On Jul 19
