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DeepSight:
Culled from an old post of mine.

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Just yet another detour/ stop-over. I am inspired by my own analogy of a song.
Is a song a physical thing?

Not at all, otherwise you would have to show me its atoms / molecules! A song can only be represented or conveyed by physical things. It can be conveyed by musical instruments, it can be written down in the language of musical notes, it can be written down in multiple technical and human languages even, it can be recorded onto physical instruments - a tape recorder, a compact disc, a computer drive, in all of these forms it will appear as informative code of different kinds: smash and destroy all of these things a million times over, and yet you would not have touched or harmed the song. The song remains completely immaterial - even when it is sung by a person, what you hear are actually informative codes which float along sound waves and reach your ears to be transmitted to your brain. If you like grab those sound waves, squash and distort them in any way imaginable, you still will not have touched the song. The song is completely immaterial, a child of the mind and often of the soul as well, you cannot account for the existence of the song or even the nature of the song using physical reference points alone, this just remains impossible.

This is something to dwell deeply upon!

So LordReed when you talk about "seeing" images on the computer, that is something we can liken to the analogy of the song - none of the "images" you are seeing are in fact the thoughts which are being expressed, if you like edit or delete them, the thoughts will not have been destroyed, what you are seeing are merely physical designs which form a code which you have been educated to recognize and interpret in your mind. Therefore you are not seeing immaterial things. It is another absurdity to say that you can see an immaterial thing. Your list of absurdities is growing and somewhere in this thread I will compile them, and when I do, I trust that they will probably provoke you to claim that you never said any such things - whereas you did.

https://www.nairaland.com/6942843/matter-mind/2#109468961

I am not sure what you are trying to convey but you seem to be contradicting yourself. You say a song is immaterial, but you can hear it just fine while rejecting that the image on your computer screen is immaterial yet can be seen. Very contradictory.

I just went over the things I said in that thread, and I still stand by them. What is more likely, as evidenced by this post, is you will tie yourself up into pretzels trying to overthink what is very evidently reality.


BTW what do the words "virtual reality" convey to you?

Dtruthspeaker:
Satan incarnate, keep Lying and proving that Satan is truly your father.

Dumdum keep showing you are just a dumb blockhead.

Dtruthspeaker:
Dimdim, you are still saying what I said with your head "causing things" aka stimulation and deliberateness.

And of course diviners aka witches can pray because they are still human beings but witchcraft is conjuring and divination and and not prayer.EOS (End of Story)

Dumdum who said anything about witchcraft? Stupido.

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you are Lie, Satan. Your redefinition of divination and is very the meaning of conjuring.

And you have seen the meaning of Prayer which is "a solemn request for help which you see in Elisha.

And thank God you confess the Truth that Elijah was "praying" when a prophecy was "given to him". Not him trying to take it by his will and force which is witchcraft and conjuring and incantation, as the witch did to Samuel's spirit.

So you Lie, Satan's prophet!

Dumdum conjuring is causing things to manifest out of thin air. Go look in a dictionary you ignorant dunce.

Diviners also pray so you aren't making any point. Fact is they use various means, whatever those means are.

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the devil incarnate now deflecting and saying "nonsense" because he sees he still cannot counter this, even after all these past years, since 2019.

Dumdum you didn't counter what I said only to spill nonsense.

Dtruthspeaker:
There is no other evidence needed to be given in Proof of God besides the fact that no thing in this world we know, created itself exactly how the Toyota Camry did not know build itself, so you are talking rubbish.

Says the one saying nonsense.

Dtruthspeaker:
1) Exactly how we say i never swallow my physics textbook when we were preparing for ssce those days.

2) Divination has to do with conjuring and stimulation. Prophecies come naturally without any provocation or participation by the prophesyer.

3) Incantation is the same as divination and the virginity bible condemns it. Which is why Catholics are not Christians but mordernized witchcraft and juju things.

Prayer is simply "a solemn request for help or an expression of gratitude and a meansof of communication.addressed to a Person.

Nope. Divination is seeking knowledge beyond human capacity by using certain means, the same with prophecy. Elijah bowed himself in prayer to get a prophecy. Elisha asked musicians to play to get a prophecy. Saul was moved by music and began to prophesy. There is no difference.

Incantation is the speaking of words to invoke the spirits for aid, same with prayer. Again, no difference.

Vinnie2000:
Bro, God is NOT a myth.

Just like you cannot explain some Natural phenomenon like Bermuda triangle, existence of the sun,etc
Dat's how you cannot fully understand his Personality, Ways and actions.

There is nothing like Bermuda Triangle, that's just another myth. The existence of the sun can be explained.

The Abrahamic god is a myth, none of the things that are attributed to the god cannot be evidenced, just like Sango.

Dtruthspeaker:
Typical of Satan incarnate to Lie by twisting facts! Thank God the whole world sees that no Christian practices juju nor drinks blood and the eats flesh beyond that everyone in the world has called food and wine and not juju.

Is communion not the blood and flesh of Jesus? Also what is the difference between prophecy and divination? What is the difference between incantation and prayer? There all the same thing called by different names.

Righthussle:
Yes. It preaches that members should increase their tithe to 35% monthly despite the hardship so that when Jesus will come soon or latest next week Tuesday, they'll all go with him to enjoy their mansion in heaven.

How did I fall for this rubbish before self.

We like stories with happy endings so all the things the people suffer in the story are worth it because of the happy ending. See the Cinderella story, she had it good then something happened and made everything bad. She gets the help of a good spirit and meets her savior, who thereafter whisks her away to live in a palace. Is that not the Christian story in a nutshell?

Omooba77:
What can Church do for members during this Hardship?

Buy food in bulk like the way cooperatives do. Get the members to buy slots for themselves and others so that those that don't have can get something.

Dtruthspeaker:
Clear proof that those stupid people thought Christianity was a different type of Juju practice

But it is a different type of juju practice. You Christians drink blood and eat flesh.

Vinnie2000:
True.

But the comment of the Lady shocked me, that 'God has NO influence in the affairs of humans and anything you get in life is by luck'.

This statement from a Christian (frustrated by Tinibu's bad govt) is a Drift to ATHEISM.

I agree, it might be a drift towards realizing the Abrahamic god is a middle eastern myth just like Sango is a Yoruba myth.

MrPresident1:
There is no prophecy that I have given on this Nairaland that has not come to pass like clockwork, its just that the living cannot do anything to help the dead; you can only bury the dead away or fray the jackals and vultures away.

American country needs its Jesus, Donald' Jesus Christ of American country' Trump, they need him for their healing and salvation and elongation of their prosperity, but he is the one letting who was taken away, and this generation shall not pass till all these things are fulfilled.

You have been exposed for the charlatan you are. Bwahahahahaha!

Vinnie2000:
With the way Nigerians slammed Mrs Remi Tinibu and PFN body on their Prayer solution for the Country's problems,
It is now clear most of us are getting Less Religious.


I was very shocked when I read a story of a Lady (A Hardship frustrated Christian) on Opera news.
She said 'God does NOT Have a Say in Human affairs. Everything you get is just by Chance and Luck'.

So I ask
*Is TINIBU AND HIS HORRIBLE POLICIES CAUSING NIGERIANS TO BECOME ATHEISTS?
Or Most are just naturally tired of being Christians or ChurchGoers?🤨

Drop your comments.

Nplfmod.

They may not be atheists but they are realizing that prayer is not the magic wand it has been portrayed to be.

gaskiyamagana:
Noise that is salvation for your soul?

Even if I believed in that nonsense, what have you said that is constructive in this thread? Nothing. But lemme give you the opportunity, what is a soul? Why does it need to be saved?

chatinent:
I'm eager to know: what actually is the criteria for revealing suspects' faces by the EFCC? Because most times, esp when foreigners are caught, the don't reveal their faces. But they do to nationals. Other times, they are told to be snapped faced back. ..I mean on the same degree of crime.

Do some enjoy better immunity than others? Does the law respect other people other than the "cant-be-arrested politicians" we already know?

I think the difference is quite clear from the pictures attached. At point of arrest their faces are not shown, after arraignment/conviction their faces are shown.

Allotrope69:
As a teacher in this particular sch, I and my colleagues have been completely dissatisfied with some of the school's anti-worker policies.

There's no decision or policy that favors the teachers. We are always at the receiving end of every decision.
For instance, as a form Teacher and also a teacher of Mathematics, I must ensure that my students eat their foods(Lunch). I must monitor them closely to make sure they don't take their foods home. They must finish their food.
If any student absents himself/herself, I must call the parents to check. Failure to do so would be akin and tantamount to insensitivity and lack of care for my students. These are JSS3 students we are talking about. But if the teacher is absent due to one reason or the other, same parents would not bother to check on the teacher even if they are aware.

Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

Some parents also try to bully teachers cos they are backed up by the school owners. After all, a customer is always right. If a Parent contracts u to have a private lesson for their child, and such parent refuses to pay you at the time they should pay, and u dare ask for your money, u could be in hot soup. The parent might call the school owners to report that you're harassing them and you will get the blame. In fact, the school owners tell u what to charge them.

The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).

How can a Proprietoress who was once a teacher in someone's sch boldly tell her staff that their Future end here in her sch, and that the students are now the future. And that the children will be more successful than the teachers? . It tells a lot as to how she sees and perceives her employees and reason she mistreats her staff. She has placed a limit on us that we can't go beyond where we are.

See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

This is not a school, it's a breeding ground for incompetence and corruption. That proprietress is a failure.

gaskiyamagana:
Public forum for Tesla Robot like you or those who want to learn?

Those who want to learn ask questions. Obnoxious arseholes like you are just here to make noise.

gaskiyamagana:
If it unclear to you here, go to Italy and ask Pope. Stop disturbing us here.

LoLz. He thinks I give a shit about the pope. If you didn't realise, this is a public forum so I'm not "disturbing" anybody. If my question is tormenting you, log off and go play outside.

Can any of you abortion deniers explain how abortion magically changes because the mother's life is in danger, doesn't it magically mean it is not a human fetus you are killing? What then is the difference between killing a human fetus because it is endangering the mother's life and killing it because the pregnancy is unwanted.

GloriousGbola:
Macron will likely become the defacto leader of nato. They know what's up especially with vladdy putin disrupting the air space and planting bombs on cargo planes. They will get the last us support they can between now and January and after that, they are on their own.

It's just sad.

IbeOkehie:
This is a nonsensical proposal that shows a fundamental understanding of the real, long term and historic underlying issues that led to the Ukraine War. Impossible that President Trump put this out as a proposal. Nonsense, until there's an official acknowledgement.

First and foremost, PERMANENTLY STOP all transfers of USA money or any kind of aid to Ukraine and use the money to militarize and completely seal off the USA Southern land & maritime borders AND conduct a mass deportation of all illegal immigrants. That's the first order of business and that's what he promised!!!!

Good Luck to Nigeria.

OK the proposal didn't go hard enough is your problem. LoLz.

LordReed:
Ukraine too probably.

It begins.

HardMirror:
democrats are no better. I can present a lot of evil that party does, but no need.

Glad that fake as woman is sent packing. Next time the democrats should give us an intelligent woman of color not this idiot that only reads from the teleprompter.
I really have a lot i could say about the democratic party. The mainstream media and kamala but no need.
Trump won against all odds and that is what matters to me now.

Well, we'll see how it goes won't we. As it is I am too numb to even talk about US politics anymore.

RSAV:
Experienced parents please comment.
My 3 year old daughter, she would be 4 years old in Feb, is sharp and very bright.
It only happened occasionally that she would pee on herself. Usually when engrossed in cartoon.

However, it the last 4 weeks, it has become an everyday occurrence.
She would even poo on herself!

I've talked to her, yet no serious change.
I just had a baby boy few weeks ago. Could this be responsible for the change in my daughter? If yes, how best can it be handled? It's already affecting her in school.

Sounds like attention seeking behavior. She is seeing how you are all taking care of the baby and wants the same treatment. Let her know you love her and the new baby won't change your love for her.

samwheel:
Scammers in the lord

The day I gave up on Christianity, church and whatever is the day Tinubu became president despite the numerous prophecies (predictions) from many notable MOGs.

One of the scammers in the lord even claimed that the winner's name is in the Bible and his whole sheeples (congregations) were jubilating

They won't learn. Once they hear "God said" na so them go begin folo folo.

COOL10:
Bro, I didn't forget you oo. Don't worry I'll send you the toilet paper to wipe your tears and blow your nose, you hear? Don't cry too much.

Too numb to cry bro.

AmazonTopaz:
America is doomed

Congratulations to the idiots.

Ukraine too probably.

Heartbreaking loss for Democrats. Republicans have majority in everything. Cooking begins.

Righteousness2:
Everywhere is Just so Tensed!
Frustrations, Depression, Anxiety, Confusion, Fears, uncertainty, etc are all Bubbling and Boiling together.
You Just know this World is about to Explode.
You just feel and see that the World is like a Time BOMB about to EXPLODE

When i see what is happening in our world today, i begin to imagine the Mind blowing EXPLOSIONS of Madness, Lawlessness and CONFUSION that will be on this earth after the RAPTURE of the Saints..

Folks! Settle the Matter of your Eternity now that you Have the Opportunity.
Sort out your SALVATION with Fear and Trembling.
Amend your Ways , BELIEVE AND SURRENDER to the LORDSHIP of JESUS CHRIST.
Live Prepared!! Live Ready!
The Trumpet is Fixing to BLAST

Jesus was supposedly crucified with 2 thieves because it was a very peaceful time bah.

The party of family values, folks.