[quote author=LegendHero post=132957331][/quote]Something is wrong here. Population estimates for Lagos is about 21-25 million how can then there be 25 million voice subscribers? You mean the babies are also subscribers?
jesusjnr2020: It's glaring he's had a major shift in his religious beliefs and is no longer an atheist. At least he said himself that he believes in the teachings of Jesus, so why don't you give him a benefit of a doubt as you did when he was sayjng the otherwise?
Purchasing a compound for the mothers of his children doesn't prove the otherwise. Even if he truly repented, it doesn't change stop him from being the father of those children. You don't want him to take care of his children?
The same compound he is going to live in. Guy that's a harem not evidence of repentance.
Don't worry shey the same way you went silent on Kanye is the same way you will go silent on Elon when you see that this all empty noise.
davillian: now mention one gospel artist that has done a song about smoking and drinking
All the ones that preach against addiction. I am not going to be able to name a specific one because it's been so long since I listened to gospel music but I know that I heard some back in the day.
davillian: it depends on the type of music you sing a gospel artist cant draw inspiration in a club or in a room filled with girls and boys smoking and drinking but wizkid phyno davido burna boy can
Why couldn't they? You certainly can use it to preach against the ills of smoking or partying too hard.
jesusjnr2020: So what do you think the Christians were saying all along which were coming to pass, that make those in question admit such things, other than what Christ Himself said would come to pass in the last days? Even the people I spoke about, never said they were now Christians or now believed in Jesus teachings so Elon Musk is actually a few steps ahead of them, to the point of becoming a member and top partner of Christ embassy this same year. But you're still waiting for him to just admit it's such things Christians as Pastor Chris have been saying that made him have a change of heart, right? Well keep waiting as always if you like.
That's how you were here when I came with the teachings of Christ, but you were forming odeshi and Michelle came and overtook you right before your very eyes. This is several years later, you haven't still learnt your lesson, now Elon Musk of all people had left you behind in atheism because of the same teachings of Jesus, and you're still waiting, lol. Well continue to wait. Na you wait pass.
Where did you get this picture from?
LoLz. Dude you claimed you would atheism on Nairaland but instead there are more of us now than back then so no buddy na you dey form. Me, I am just here to laugh at folk like you.
It's been 1990+ years since the purported soon coming Jesus was prophesied, I ain't holding my breath for that one. Already wasted 25+ years on that rubbish.
jesusjnr2020: Did you hear me mention Becky Enenche anywhere? You only heard Paul Enenche but you came and started mentioning me because of what his wife said. You must have forgotten about a true man of God in the bible whose wife told him to "curse God and die" lol!
Btw if you heard me correctly, you'd have heard where I said, I hardly heard Paul Enenche preach the antichrist gospel of prosperity, not that I never heard him do so. For Oyedepo and Ibiyeomie, it's the otherwise.
As for tithing, it is permitted in the teachings of Christ as a matter of less significance in the law (Matthew 23:23), but prosperity preachers take it as the most important just as the covetous Pharisees used to do, to the extent of threatening people with (early) death or hell fire because of tithes, or to say things like, "Jesus died young because He didn't tithes", "Job's riches weren't secured because he didn't tithe" , "Adam touched his tithes" and all manner of heresies just to get people to part with their money at all costs.
So I think that's another angle that distinguishes Paul Enenche from the likes of David Oyedepo and David Ibiyeomie even though he also preaches about tithing.
You have to be kidding me. You actually think Becky Enenche will preach a message her husband doesn't subscribe to? You are either in denial or just clowning. Given what we know about how Dunamis has operated so far I can confidently say she would not do such a thing, unless she wants Dunamis or her marriage to scatter and there is no sign of that atm.
When has Oyedepo ever said "Jesus died young because He didn't tithes", "Job's riches weren't secured because he didn't tithe" , "Adam touched his tithes"?
jesusjnr2020: One thing you should understand about salvation is that it's one thing to be saved and another to stay saved. Even Smith Wigglesworth, a preacher who is said to have raised the most dead people in living history, once backlided to the point of even stopping his wife from going to church. It was the same wife's rigidness God used to restore him and he never forgot the important thing his wife did for him. That's a man God used to do a lot of miracles yet backsliding how much more someone like Kanye West in the entertainment industry?
Elon Musk himself should prepare to face a serious storm that will shake his faith to its very foundations and make him want to quit even if he truly repented, especially because of the threat his conversion poses to atheism because of his influence.
Elon Musk hasn't repented,what are you talking about. Someone that just recently purchased a compound for his baby mamas.
jesusjnr2020: Check the thread and you'd find it after I stopped keeping you silent. I think I took it too far though with my "harvest" of replies to your comments even though I was very angry.
davillian: what brought dbanj down he disconnected from the roots of his music which is Nigeria... if your music comes from a certain lifestyle, place or certain people once you disconnect it would be hard to have something to sing about.... mind you this does not happen with all music though some you sit at home think a d write music i dont know how really explain this... eg can you hear mo gbo no feli feli in America? no you cant its how those women selling hot moi moi call attention of thier market to people dbanj heard it and turned it to music.
Yeah but that has nothing to do with that "lifestyle". A good song writer draws inspiration from all that is around them and then tailor it to your audience.
davillian: its possible once married you stop certain lifestyle and those lifestyle is were the music comes from...
That was before the advent of Social Media. What artistes need is visibility which was why they needed to be seen at clubs and shows but with Social Media you can cover a lot of ground without that "lifestyle". Look at Beyoncé, her visibility is always high because of her SM presence yet she is married and a mother.
jesusjnr2020: Wait a minute. What were you thinking? Check the context properly and see what it was about incase you misinterpreted it to be something else.
I want you alive and saved not otherwise.
Your words:
jesusjnr2020: Lol! You don dey cry, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
But since that didn't work on you u, I'm going to ensure you get a full harvest of the whole loads of rubbish you've been sowing.
jesusjnr2020: Please don't try to shift goal posts here. This is still about one of those "skeptics, including world-famous scientists and secular figures" you asked me to mention, and I mentioned Elon Musk and also brought proof.
I know this came as a shock to you as it was to me so please don't pretend. The signs are that glaring bro. Na only you remain so stop making flimsy excuses. Repent and believe the Gospel. Jesus loves you.
As for Kanye West, my interest in him began during "Jesus walks" days when he did something revolutionary in the music industry after he didn't quit despite several record companies rejecting him just because of that song, so don't speak what you know nothing about. I always saw that xfactor in him, and i knew it will speak sooner or later, so not too surprised when that happened, and won't be surprised if it happened again. It's not easy to be saved and still stay saved in the entertainment world even if one was sincerely saved, so I'm still praying for him regardless.
You are the one shifting goal posts. This was what you said:
jesusjnr2020: Even many skeptics, including world-famous scientists and secular figures who mocked and easily discarded our preaching, have begun to admit that only the Christians seem to know what's going on.
So the difference is very clear now from anytime in the past with respect to endtimes expectations.
Where in the video does Elon admit any such thing?
Guy you are on a long thing on this Kanye matter but let's be seeing na. LoLz.
jesusjnr2020: Lol! You don dey cry, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
When I chose to ignore your foolery, you perhaps thought you were untouchable, but now you know that I tried to use silence as the best answer to a fool.
But since that didn't work on you u, I'm going to ensure you get a full harvest of the whole loads of rubbish you've been sowing.
You know witches and satanists use humans for sacrifices right?
That's an idea of the craft you're currently learning. Perhaps you haven't gotten to that stage yet...
jesusjnr2020: It's a quite similar feeling I usually had whenever I heard Paul Enenche speaking despite hearing that Oyedepo was his mentor.
He appeared to have a different mindset from Oyedepo from the way he sounded and acted very differently apart from a few occasions.
I hardly heard him teach the antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing as was the usual of David Oyedepo and that David Ibiyeomie )who has proven overtime to be a much worse version of David Oyedepo). Hence when I see them together I wonder how they possibly agree despite the glaring differences, however didn't allow that association to affect my opinion of Paul Enenche, because I am not one driven by personal sentiments but Truth.
However Paul Enenche left early to start his own ministry, which perhaps helped him not to be stifled as David Abioye, but to shone brightly and impact the worldore or less to the fullest.
So could David Abioye have also done same thing?
Going by what later happened to him (enforced retirement) despite his loyalty and unwavering service to Oyedepo ministry all those years, the answer is probably in the affirmative.
God bless.
Are you joking? How do you think Enenche built Glory Dome? It was not his personal money, it required the usual cajoling preachers use to elicit funds from believers including tithing.
Also having sat under Bishop Abioye's ministration in the past, I can tell you categorically he fully subscribes to the "antichrist prosperity gospel and its heresies about tithing".
jesusjnr2020: I have heard several atheists here say good things about Jesus, even heard some of other religions do the same, but never heard any atheist say, "I believe in the teachings of Jesus"!
If you've ever heard any kindly share the link of just one and I will believe you, because no one can say that and still remain an atheist.
It's impossible because that's one of the major requirements of being a true Christian. Even many so-called Christians don't believe in the teachings of Jesus so to that extent Elon Musk may even be more Christian than most Christians were, if he really meant it.
So this isn't about any universal principles or laws because Elon Musk has always known those even while proudly posing an atheist, but coming out to say he believes in the teachings of Jesus, means he now believes in Jesus' teachings about being the Son of God, the endtime signs and everything else Jesus said on His teachings, which are in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, and that means he's no longer atheist.
I spoke to you about the timing, and you could see when he also came out to say this especially after what happened at the Olympics which was an eye opener for most of them. It's beyond glaring that there's been a shift in his beliefs which he's gradually revealing gradually and I think there much more from where that came.
So I wasn't surprised seeing a recent trending post about him being announced as the top partner of Christ embassy.
As I said earlier, it's left to be seen how sincere he is, but from what he himself said openly about believing in the teachings of Jesus, Elon Musk is now no longer atheist according to Elon Musk, himself.
If you like believe it or not. It will never change that fact.
When was the first video about Elon you posted taken?
Remember how you boasted so much about Kanye West? By now you should be wary of boasting so much about celebrities professing belief in Jesus. Most of them have an agenda. I have no doubt Elon like Trump knows how to say the minimum it would take to make gullible believers to look at them favorably. Kanye tried it but wasn't so successful. You know how you can know these people are just talking, check their lifestyle. Elon is still carrying baby mamas about and you think he is now a disciple of Jesus. LoLz.
Winnin009: Bro, let me give you an instance of the top of my head. The Hormone regulation pills taken for the period of the trasnsition are covered by health insurance. A good percentage of america are on govt medical insurance. That translates into million of dollars set aside for gender transition pills.
Now you do see how the government funds its? The materials that are used to educate kids about this crap in public schools; that's money from the government coffers.
I'm sure you get the idea now.
LoLz. Dude you are so wrong. The government does not cover most of US citizens Healthcare. The government provides Medicare for people 65 and above, none of which are going to be performing any gender reassignment surgeries. The government funds Medicaid through the States for adults and children of low incomes. Less than ⅓ of US Citizens are on Medicaid so not a majority like you seem to think. And since it is governed by the States not all States cover gender reassignment surgery. Since it is not purely a federally funded program it won't stop the states that cover gender reassignment surgeries from covering it if they decide to cut Medicaid. And I bet you if Republicans gut Medicaid they'll see a heavy backlash from their own supporters.
Winnin009: You seem to under estimate these guys for you to relegate them to Health or Education. They're in every sector, even entertainment and fashion. If you wanna affect such sub organizations masking under federal ministries, best way, in my opinion is to cut the finances. The funds leaves paper trails. Shey Trump has vowed or he has already banned gender transition as it is?! Next is to suffocate the agencies funding the trash in schools and in places they ought not to.
LordReed: Name any US Federal program that gives money to LGBTQ or gender transitioning.
jesusjnr2020: I couldn't find a particular video made by 2 of such ones I spoke about.
I never knew I was going to have to use that to prove anything later on, otherwise I would have saved the link. However I don't think that would be necessary any longer, since it couldn't get any better than Elon Musk, widely regardless as an atheist, scientist, chief exec of arguably the world's leading tech companies, world's richest and one of the most famous and influential secular figures around, etc. ironically shifting ground from atheism to Christianity, which reflects in his realigned position and views, including politically.
I spoke about how the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics was the major eye-opener for these ones who didn't take warnings from Christians prior to that, and Elon Musk was one of those who openly voiced his concerns about that event.
This does not indicate that Elon Musk now believes in Jesus or the warnings of some Apocalypse brought by Jesus coming again. Those Christian principles he mentioned are some of the most universal principles for societal cohesion. Any civilization that wants to progress must institute some form of those principles because we are social beings and work better that way.
Besides this are so things atheists have said from time to time without acknowledging Jesus as a deity or that prophecies of the end are real so find another one that really exemplifies what you said cos this ain't it.
Johnnoah1st: Hey everyone, I’ve been struggling with something and would appreciate your advice.
I’m in my late 20s, 5'11", with curly hair, a fit and athletic physique, and I’ve been told I exude handsomeness. I’ve noticed a recurring issue: after we have sex, they seem to leave without much thought.
When I try to play the "ignoring game" to see if it keeps them interested, it feels like they interpret it differently. Instead of drawing them closer, they seem to feel unbothered and even triumphant, as if they’ve won something by walking away. They don’t show remorse, which leaves me confused about what I might be doing wrong.
Is it my approach, or is there something deeper I need to address? How can I change this pattern and build meaningful, lasting connections?
I’m open to any insights or suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Choose better. If you are choosing people who you are only interested in having sex with or them having sex with you then don't be surprised. Find someone who you establish a connection with BEFORE you have sex with them.
akpaan: Trump’s joke about a third term is just so typical of him. throwing out comments that get everyone talking, even if it’s just for a laugh. It’s wild how one offhand joke can spiral into debates about democracy and the Constitution. The guy knows how to keep people on their toes, that’s for sure. But in politics, even jokes don’t go unnoticed, and the reactions say a lot about how on-edge everyone is. Makes you think about how fine the line is between what’s said in jest and what’s taken seriously.
Except Trump supporters often tell us he doesn't joke, that he says what he means.
Winnin009: You seem to under estimate these guys for you to relegate them to Health or Education. They're in every sector, even entertainment and fashion. If you wanna affect such sub organizations masking under federal ministries, best way, in my opinion is to cut the finances. The funds leaves paper trails. Shey Trump has vowed or he has already banned gender transition as it is?! Next is to suffocate the agencies funding the trash in schools and in places they ought not to.
Name any US Federal program that gives money to LGBTQ or gender transitioning.
Winnin009: Personally, I think Musk is after a different agenda. He's out to dismantle the lefts' LGBTQ and gender change shit. Musk was directly affected. Remember he said he was deceived by some left woke folks to sign away his right to a say in his child gender change. He was really pained by that shit. Musk hasn't always been a big fan of Trump but Trump is the biggest anti-woke agenda candidate in America... Musk is in my own opinion, using Trump to get at the left and their shitty agendas.
He would have sought a different portfolio then. He would have either gone for Health or Education but he went for the one that involves money. Go figure.
Now, I am going to make an exception in my usual approach. I usually try to communicate based on logic and with premises that build an argument. However this question you have asked, I sense is a sincere inquiry and not an argumentative one. And even if it happens to be argumentative, I have decided to approach it differently. So in this instance, I will make an exception and simply share my personal experiences with regard to your question. In doing so, I risk being seen as perhaps deluded or even psychotic but no matter, I am not one to be bothered what people think of me. So here goes.
In terms of dreams, a spiritual dream is recognized by its very nature - it often comes out of the blue and out of sync with the petty matters of everyday life. Our nature is such that as we sleep off, all the matters in our minds begin to play around in our subconscious and often crop up as dreams of this and that everyday matter. These dreams are run of the mill and are of the physical and mental realm only. Dreams which involve the spirit are often strikingly different. In my personal experience these elements tend to pop up:
1. The dream is strikingly real and feels like something that has happened in real life, not just like a dream
2. The dream often involves symbols, and very often other-worldly creatures and beings unknown to this world
3. The dream presents you with abnormal powers and capacities
4. The dream predicts the future with uncanny accuracy
Since I was a child I have had a steady flow of dreams which predict the future with staggering accuracy, and this has become a normal part of my life. It is way too consistent and way too accurate for me to ignore or deny it, so much so that I know that there is little that can happen around me which I do not see ahead in a dream. I have repeatedly told people around me exactly what will happen in their lives in a short while, or who will die suddenly, and unfailingly it comes to pass in staggering detail. This kind of thing enables me to know that these are not run off the mill dreams, which often just involve spatterings or memory and daily activities playing around in one's mind.
Let me move deeper. At a point, I began to have the ability to be lucid in my dreams. This is called lucid dreaming and it is a state where one is in a dream and one is aware that it is a dream. When I began to master the art, I would recognise that I am in a dream and then be able to take control of the dream and go to spiritual locations and observe events and places which one cannot access in the waking world.
This led me to gradually begin my first astral travels, because I realized that in that state, I could begin to float in what appears to be a world-ether and go to varying places and interact with other beings. I realized this was real when I began to go to places far away from my home and the next day, be able to recount to the people there exactly what transpired where they where, and who did what, etc - with accuracy. This has left people around me doumfounded and I know its something very real - it's not a trick of the mind.
Let me add that I am not special in this regard, almost everyone has these capacities, people just key into them at varying levels or not at all.
The spiritual is very real. However these things are beyond what can be argued or proven with normal logic and certainly not with science as we know it. Maybe a day will come when we will evolve to a level of science that addresses such things. Let me stop here.
Try and see the movie "Behind her eyes" on Netflix. It gives a very clear idea of the sort of thing I am talking about in terms of astral presence and astral travel.
Thanks for your reply. This is a lot to take in so I will take my time to respond.
Christianity Etc › Re: Robots Unveiling By Elon Musk: Where Iron Meets Clay In Daniel 2:40-45(Video) by LordReed(m): 11:58am On Nov 21, 2024
