Haylel: If, by reacting differently to a circumstance you can stop feeling depressed, then tell me how clinica depression is real.
Not always. Some people are unable to regulate the hormones that make for healthy emotions, that is why they need antidepressants. They don't give you medicine just because you are feeling sad. Also depression is not circumstances based, a person can have everything and still have depression.
Haylel: Depression is clinically viewed as a mental health disorder. That's a completely farce, it ain't real. If you are feeling depressed, it's no different as you feeling excited or being angry. How that managed to confuse you is beyond me.
You'll need to show me in the DSM where depression is listed as a mental disorder. I asked you to define depression, can you do that?
You yourself preceded the statement with "if" , then you go ahead to say "where does anybody get that choice?". That's a clear conditional statement, how don't you get simple things like this because of your default "whatever comes out of that guy is trash" mindset?
Then it is pointless since it is not a choice we can make.
If that choice was possible, every man won't pick the fat, lazy, dumb and sorry version of themselves. So, given that you can pay with your time to get most of those features you would like to have (as you can with a click in video games), why don't you do it?
Video games are a fantasy. It's a problem if you can't distinguish between fantasy and reality.
It's not going to change any day.
It probably will after both you and I are long dead, the technology is still in its infancy. It will be like someone in the infancy of television saying it will never be in virtually every home.
haaaaaa..... shit!
Atheists ought to understand sentence structures better. Are you telling me you don't understand the context there? Don't be petty because you want to score cheap points.
What context again? Does he have kids or not, what context do you need to answer a simple question?
Yes. Having 8 year old kids think or feel they are a girl within and therefore need to morph into one artificially is indoctrination.
LoLz what has that got to do with knowing what LGBTQ is? Have people not been feeling that way before now?
What is the meaning of indoctrination?
He's being objective. The world has been run that way. They higher a man climbs on the social ladder, the easier it is for him to run harems on girls who are themselves willing to be associated with him. If women do the same, the society sees her as more of a prostitute.
It's the way of the world and Tate does swing that way.
But, i get, he just has to be painted a misogynist despite the fact that women don't have problems with being baby mamas.
Naa he's a misogynist who doesn't want that part of the status quo to change. If women are empowered will they go into some man's harem?
Haylel: Depression isn't real. That's the truth, there's no need for some cooked up expertise before any rational person can come to that conclusion.
LoLz depression isn't real but people can be depressed? Can you get any more contradictory. If you knew what depression was you wouldn't be saying this so tell me what is depression?
Is this supposed to be a rebuttal? You've just said nothing.
He said if you could choose to build yourself from the ground up. Where does anybody get that choice?
Nah. I and 5.55 billion others are fine with eating the fresh plants and animals. What you just said up there didn't take anything away from his take on veganism and vegetarianism.
I didn't say you aren't fine with it, I said it will change some day so saying it's some kind of immutable law is nonsense.
This has nothing to do with what he said.
It has everything because he said "my kids".
That was no conspiracy. Are the kids not being indoctrinated with lgbtq? So, where is the conspiracy?
Totally a nonsense conspiracy. Educating people on different forms of sexual expression is not "indoctrination". Do you even know what indoctrination is?
The ladies have enough brain cells to decide if the terms are in their favor. Some are cool with being baby mamas, and some are happy with being night stands. Why will you take paracetamol for another woman's headache?
It's just hypocritical trash. He is taking paracetamol for another woman's headache but I am not allowed to do same? LoLz. What is his business if a woman chooses to have multiple partners like he wants to have multiple partners?
Haylel: Hope you know his use of "matrix" is just a term he uses for "those in the top echelons of societal power". I still don't know what sounds like a movie there. Why don't you point out the exact take that is bullshit?
I've reread the post and there's nothing to see. He was obviously trolling skydiving. I don't know how that got you triggered.
You will have to be clear on what particular he said about Allah that is trash. You are just being random, how do you want me to assess your claim that he speaks trash if you continue being vague?
You obviously didn't read it well. I clearly wrote ocean, you don't skydive in the ocean buddy.
Even if you say it is metaphorical it is still bullshit since he himself is plugged in to "those in the top echelons of societal power".
I stated why clearly already. That passage promotes seeing women as secondary class persons. Doesn't matter if they said Allah said it, its still misogynistic.
HardMirror: as for the second part of your quote. The people that killed her are cowards. They are insecured and weaklings that cannot take insults. It is unfortunate but i have no pity to give. She was warned but she continued to post stupidly.
I think we should pity even the stupid. Fact is we are not always going to behave wisely every moment of our lives. I don't want to be murdered just because I said something stupid.
HardMirror: and where did i say you should not call him out. I am refering to those trying to silence him not you. Get your facts straight
There is no grand conspiracy to silence him. A platform will take off anyone they feel is detrimental to their platform. They aren't setup to "count bridges" as we say in Naija.
Haylel: You only mentioned 1, which was his take on reading books.
In your first response, you were vague with the line "most of his matrix talk are crap". Which of his "matrix" talk are crap, cause he has said so many things about the matrix.
Reread that post. I mentioned more than just matrix stuff.
Any of his take on matrix is bullshit. There is no fucking matrix. I dunno why people can't distinguish between a fucking movie and reality.
"Depression is not real. Feeling depressed is real. So, you can feel depressed, but you feel depressed and that is a natural, biological, evolutionary trigger for you to change something in your life.
That’s your own mind telling you ‘you’re unhappy about X’. If I went to jail today, I’d be depressed because I’m in jail. I haven’t caught depression, I don’t have a disease, I’m just upset with my situation.”
Just like any layman's take on what is a serious psychological and sometimes physiological problem in people. You think that temporary sadness that comes on someone due to unfortunate circumstances is all there is to depression? Tate is not an expert in this matter I dunno why you think his layman view is so profound.
ON DOING THINGS BY FEELINGS The Person who goes to the gym regardless of how they feel will always beat the person who goes to the gym when they feel like going to the gym.
Typical motivational quaint speak. Nothing a 1000 people haven't said before him.
ON MASCULINITY If you could choose to build yourself from the ground up… Like from a video game, just tick characteristic boxes and build yourself, nobody would choose to be a liberal soy boy. Nobody would choose to be a small weak guy who has to cry when he gets upset.”
Yeah because people choose how they look in the womb. LMFAO!
On Veganism and vegetarians
Why am I supposed to feel guilty for destroying an animal so that I can grow when every single thing that’s ever existed ever has destroyed something else to grow. What, I’m going to come along and be Mr. Nice Guy and I’m gonna undo the laws of the universe.
You think because you sit there and eat tofu that you’re somehow changing the basic universal constants of the reality we exist within. You’re not changing sh*t. You’re a dork.”
“When you’re saying ‘I’m a vegetarian or a vegan’, you’re saying ‘I deny reality, I deny one of the most basic fundamentals of reality’ which is for something to live, something else must die.”
Who says it is a fundamental part of reality? Who died for you to be born? Nobody died to enable my existence. If in due time we can completely skip eating plants and animals while meeting all our nutrional needs what of it?
On LGBTQ "I'm not anti gay, I'm not anti transgender, I'm not anti any of these things. But what I am anti- is, if you believe the kind of sex you like to have are sex that won't bring about reproduction, good for you. But don't come to my kids and try to program your LGBTQ agenda into them, they are my kids, not yours.
Leave the kids alone!"
Does he have kids?
Typical conspiracy theory bullshit. "They are coming for our children!" even with no evidence that children of gay parents are themselves any more likely to become gay.
ON BOUNDARIES WITH WOMEN
"If I have a chick, even though I know she won’t let them smash. Even though I know she knows what they’re about. Even though I know she’s loyal to me.
If you want me to truly love you, you are my girl. And no one’s gonna be allowed to even try. Even though I know you won’t let them… If you wanna go to the club you can go with me.” Out of respect for me, it’s not jealousy, it’s territorialism."
Why is mutual respect a bad thing? You want to smash as many ladies as you like but don't want the ladies to do likewise. Is that not hypocrisy? Besides the mechanic doesn't even play out. All the ladies you smashed and dropped who is going to have them if not other guys? Or you expect them to remain celibate because you are no longer smashing them?
Ps: There are 100 more takes but time won't permit to share.
HardMirror: hahahaha. And here you are susceptible to mainstream media. What were u expecting of me? To be a libral sissy? To support that people should be silenced because i dont like what they are saying. Do you know i have no pity for deborah that was killed? You know why? I speak hausa and i listened to what she said. I have lived in sokoto for 2 years. We live in a world where people are animals first before they are people. Why did she say what she said when she knew the consequence in her society? This is exactly what tate talks about. We cannot be defending idiots blindly. I am an atheist 100% and i am 100% liberal to the extent i think people like tate must not be silenced. Let us hear everyone. Only weaklings want to shut others up like the feminists are doing
Where did I say Tate needs to be silenced? Do you think calling out bullshit is silencing? So you calling out the bullshit of religion is you silencing religion?
You can disagree with someone without becoming inoculated to their suffering. Deborah was foolish but her death was a murder and miscarriage of justice. No-one, absolutely no-one deserves to die for expressing their views on religious figures. As a 100% liberal I would have thought you'd agree with that.
maverick1995: Honestly, Andrew Tate has helped me in so many ways I can't imagine. His stance about different aspects of life has helped me reshape my thinking pattern. LordReed, you're this way because you're yet to know how the world works. Have you researched?; Don't you know the west are controlled by a special sect (what he refers to as the matrix). Don't you know that the media is their tool?. Honestly, you are mentally blind if you think this world is a fair play-out. There's a bunch of shit you are yet to understand. I recently read about different sets of creative inventions killed in their embryonic stages because of these same organized group of control freaks (take time to search YouTube about the inventor of a car running on water). Think about Michael Jackson - you think what they said killed him is the truth?.. nah.. what about Kanye west?.. have you checked what is going on with him?; Same shit, the fucking Matrix!!! And Andrew is very correct about women.. Most guys now are just too stupid for pussy. I'm currently listening to his lecture on business & guy ..... He is a beast!. I've done one week of implementation & I'm seeing results.
Andrew is the man I never saw or had.. he speaks eloquently & intelligently. He is well built physical, has enough cash & very Very business savvy.. Dude!, Open your eyes.
I am sure I have more years on the earth than you and have had tasted more extremes than you but sure let's embrace the bullshit because he has cash. LoLz.
LoLz. Nope I am not happy. I thought your escape from religion via rational thought would make you less susceptible to this kind of nonsense but I guess you'll live your life the best way you see fit. I wish you good luck on your journey.
HardMirror: i dont need to. The man found a character that works for him. It made him rich, made him popular. You much understand that this man is living out a character. I have listened to him talk about his story and realization of how he could break out to become rich. You need all these pieces to understand what is going on. He found it and he is using it. Why i say only a fool will idolize him, but i really think he is a necessary evil as i have said before. He says a lot of things that needs to be said and most people are afraid of saying. Even the islamic quotes. We need people to say these things cos they are real and we cannot pretend they are not. People believe these things, so let him say it. Let people cry and whine about it. In the end he is clear that if you dont like aomething then do something about it. So if you dont like it then challenge him and others like him. But we must not stop them from speaking in the first place.
So you became a fan? Or why is your topic calling on Andrew Tate fans?
HardMirror: you did not know cos you are just learning of the guy. I know it was laughable when i said the videos are deleted from the internet. You have no idea how much they are fighting to cancel this guy. To the extent the man cannot even use banks again. All banks in the US refuse him service. Any way as said before not here to convice anyone. Follow what the western media wants you to believe
This is why I say he is a conspiracy theorist. How is everyone fighting to cancel him but he is on Piers Morgan?
Do you know why all banks in the US refuse him service?
OLAADEGBU: I can see that you don't want to play ball here. Ok. Let's look at the evidence in question.
With my limited knowledge and physical senses I have the evidence of God's existence as is posted on this thread.
When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I couldn't want a better evidence that there was a builder than to have the building in front of me. I don't even need faith to know that there was a builder. All I need are eyes that can see and a brain that can think.
The same principle applies to the existence of God. When I look at creation, how can I know that there was a Creator? Creation reveals to me that there is a Creator. I couldn't want a better evidence that there is a Creator than to have the creation in front of me. I don't need faith to believe in a Creator, all I need are eyes that can see and a brain that can think.
"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20).
But if I want the builder to do something for me, then I need to have faith in the builder. Likewise God, for
"Without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" (Hebrews 11:6).
If you need to know more about God you need faith based on His Word and World.
Read my question again
LordReed: Why if you say a god created it is the vast universe so void? This solar system we are in has 8 planets and 7 of them has no life as we know it, why?
OLAADEGBU: What evidence? You need to become an atheist.
If you are thinking of becoming an atheist, beware. The first step is easy, but it's not so easy to walk the walk.
You will have to ignore design when you can see it everywhere: in the universe, the atoms, the birds and the bees, the clouds and trees, the seasons, the human body, fish, flowers, fruits, feet, and even fungus. And of course, there is the amazing-looking human eye. Everywhere you look and everywhere you can't look with the human eye you will see incredible design.
Now here's the really difficult part. You will need to believe that everything man-made: cars, computers, and candies were made by man, etc., but deny that everything in nature--cattle, camels, and cabbages, etc., were made at all. It came from nothing, with no Maker.
Once you have done this, crown yourself as being intelligent. Then you will need to find other atheists who believe as you do, and they will confirm to you that you are indeed intelligent. You will also need to believe that evolution is true and that you're an ape and therefore you are not morally responsible because apes have no moral absolutes. Never forget to always give God a small "g," and learn believers' phrases such as "Evolution is a proven fact," and "I have no beliefs in any gods."
Do these things, and you will be able to call yourself a "new" atheist. How cool is that! Well, not really. You can't be a true atheist because you need absolute knowledge to say that there is no God. Besides, you intuitively know that He exists. Still, for sin-loving sinners the benefits of atheism are great in this life. But not the next. So you are really not an atheist, and to keep with your sinful lifestyle I guess you will just have to pretend to be one. Or you could simply check out the link below:
HardMirror: exactly why you are jam talking. You do not even know the volume of content of this guy that has been deleted from the internet. You have no idea. You think you qould just google and find? I am wasting my time replying you. Cos you are just jumping into this and reading stuff you can find from google. There was a time youtube would ban your account for just mentioning andrew tate and you are expecting to find videos. These are videos i have watched and many have watched. The feminists are always out cancelling anything they dont like relating to tate. Most of these videos dont last a week online.
As said before no point replying you. Believe what you want. Not that i want to convince you anyway.
LoLz. Everything about him is banned but I can find direct quotes of him saying trash.
Romance › Re: Andrew Tate Fans Gather Here by LordReed(m): 1:59pm On Dec 23, 2022
