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jesusjnr2020:
So why did you say "sure" when you don't agree that an eyewitness of an event can have an eyewitness when he's giving an account of the event?

Because I don't understand what you're still busy arguing about what I never said after you said "sure".

jesusjnr2020:
Lol! You're still not getting it?

Who said anything about scribes?

I'm speaking of the human carriers/bearers of these stories from generation to generation, including the eyewitnesses of eyewitnesses of eyewitnesses of the eyewitnesses of the actual events according to my explanation. They were yet present at the time and the story in the manuscripts tallied with their general belief and tradition, hence their general acceptance of it.

Dtruthspeaker:
You already don gree say you be Satan pikin, so as even you know say soul no dey fireproof, e mean say Satan plan no make sense na. Nothing to vex.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is how stupid you and your father are!

jesusjnr2020:
There can be an eyewitness that saw an eyewitness saying this.

jesusjnr2020:
Lol! You're funny oh. Eyewitnesses of eyewitnesses of eyewitnesses etc.

HellVictorinho6:
Please, resend to xyz429555@gmail.com.


That's my email.


The one in my profile is for someone else.

I used another person's phone to open this Nairaland account.

LordReed:
Check your email.

jesusjnr2020:
I said it's the overwhelming belief of those who were there at the time. Those closer to those closer to the eye witnesses themselves. That's also my position on this matter.

jesusjnr2020:
There are obviously lots of questions, uncertainties regarding what happened in between, but the overwhelming belief is that what was translated into the Bible aligns with what was in the original manuscript of apostle John and this is where I stand.

HellVictorinho6:
Why did you stop answering me?


Are you angry with me?

Moh247:



Ellon Musk played a smart one....

He knows BOTs and fake account would swoop in on the poll to have him removed as Twitter CEO

Now he would ban and block all the mumu that want to sack him as the CEO of his 40 billion investment

Imagine a Landlord says any tenant that doesn't want me as a landlord, tell me and I will leave the house for you

Or

Buhari tells anyone of his minister who doesn't like him should speak up and he would step down.... EFCC go fvck you up badly

.

Dtruthspeaker:
See, proof that this devil, the marketing director of atheists here in nairaland is fully possessed by Satan.



God is causing the devils to reveal themselves.

Dtruthspeaker:
Proof you are Satan's avatar as I have always said you are.

Dtruthspeaker:
To use them to insulate himself when he gets to volcano sorry lake of Fire

jesusjnr2020:
So you agree they originated from the original manuscript of apostle John.

If they didn't have the story as some claim, it must be that it was omitted, hence the manuscripts with the story were generally accepted because it was as it should be. Remember those alive were closest to the generation of the eye witnesses of those things, so it's hard for them to easily accept those with the story if not true.

The only way to prove it wasn't in the original manuscript written by John is to provide the manuscript, if not park well oga , let me continue to see road with the Words of Jesus in the Bible which I believe was 100% inspired of God.

jesusjnr2020:
So tell me, what's the difference between between 2000 and 1800 years later? If that of 1800 years ago was available, why not that of 200 years earlier?

Moreover, were did the rewritten manuscripts originate from if not the original?

jesusjnr2020:
Well if that be the case, it's quite unfortunate because that's the only manuscript that you could use to prove to me that anything was added to or omitted from what was originally written by apostle John, because anything can happen along the way.

jesusjnr2020:
Do you mean the one written by apostle John himself?

jesusjnr2020:
That it was an addition to the original, earliest, oldest manuscript of the Gospel.

You know why I brought the bolded up na. Are you not the ones that keep asking for proof of the Unseen to believe He exists?

Dtruthspeaker:
Aquarium and fish bowls have shown that fishes in water are standing on land, even though the fish is still in water, therefore land based.

You really have nothing valid to say as usual.

terrezo2002:
These days you see people selling their souls to the devil. They will sell their souls for money, fame etc.
Why will anyone even think of it?

Dtruthspeaker:
The records says you are a liar.



"Water stands on land not on air."

(Another useless endless somersaulting until you are the last to respond)

OLAADEGBU:
Scientists Discover Hidden Code Within Our DNA...

Scientists have discovered a secret second code hiding within DNA which instructs cells on how genes are controlled.

Ever since the genetic code was deciphered over 40 years ago, scientists have believed that it only described how proteins are made. However, research now indicates that genomes use the genetic code to ((write)) two separate languages.

Scientists discovered that the second language ((instructs)) the cells on how genes are controlled

The second language remained hidden for so long because one ((language)) is ((written)) on top of the other, scientists said.

Scientists already knew that the genetic code uses a 64-letter alphabet called codons. The research team discovered that some of the codons can have two meanings – one related to proteins, the other to gene control. Those codons were given the name 'duons

(We are twice as complex as evolutionary scientists once thought! If Darwin had only known this information..)

https://answersingenesis.org/biology/microbiology/dnas-hidden-codes/

Source

jesusjnr2020:
A simple question based on a false premise unless proven otherwise is not worth answering.

As for the bolded, kindly show me where I said you wrote that?

jesusjnr2020:
Oh, now you believe we're in the same boat. You believe what has been presented to us as facts not that you were there to confirm this yourself, yet you accuse me of doing same, doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

You don't believe everything else that was presented to us as facts in the Bible and the Gospels, except that the story of the adulterous woman was not in the original manuscript, but only an addition according to some so-called Christian scholars.

So what is your proof that what they said is the fact and not what other Christian scholars claim to the contrary?

That's why you must provide proof of what you believe otherwise I would not believe you. Seeing is now believing lol.

Dtruthspeaker:
Change of post! We ain't talking about sea creatures coming from water

Dtruthspeaker:
More like a where.

Dtruthspeaker:
Because your reason is distorted completely by evil that you can not see what is in front of you that there is no need reasoning with devils like you.

triplechoice:
So where would the consciousness come from in the first place for an AI to change its software by itself and become sentient? Or how would those software change on their own to enable sentience?



The artificial neural networks in modern AI's are not exactly the same as the one in the human brain. They don't form and dissolve exactly the same way.

The former is not flexible while the latter is.
What you're envisioning will never happen.

It's an impossibility for AI' to have sentience because they're machines without any form of life. Life has to be present first before any kind of sentience can happen. It's as simple as that.

There's no general consensus in the sciences where life or consciousness has emerged from. But you seem to be certain where it has emerged to be so sure that one day AI's would become sentient.

And just look at what you wrote up there. You said it's certainly not an impossibility that AI's can rewrite their own codes someday. Ha!

Honestly this is getting crazy

triplechoice:
It's you that's has not made it initially clear what path that it would take.

Now that you have said it wouldn't be biological, I am going to repeat what I already declared;
AI'S, if they wouldn't evolve biologically and become sentient, would only do so when cats start to talk suddenly.

Why do I say so?

The main mechanism which makes it possible for AI's to replicate human behaviour is fixed and can only change by human intervention.

This is unlike the human brain that can evolve or devolve naturally on its own due to plasticity.

So tell us , How can something that's fixed suddenly change into another thing on its own and start operating differently?


Or do you think someday cars would suddenly grow wings and start to fly?

I am not trying to mock you here, but it's what I can only make from all you have argued so far.


And untill you can show me a little of the science which has inspired what you're envisioning concerning AI's, I would continue to place all you have been saying in the same category as the popular rapture vision of some Pentecostal Christians. We know rapture won't happen . It's crazy talk.

Where's the science about what you think. Let's discuss that, so we stop assuming about what's possible or not possible.

I have already explained that it's an impossibility from a scientific point of view and even from some other position you can think of it.

Dtruthspeaker:
Water stands on land not on air.

Dtruthspeaker:
Anywhere!