MaxInDHouse: R There was never any constitution WRITTEN until the God of Israel gave the Israelites laws and that's where all other nations derived these rules. Nothing like universal laws!
Dtruthspeaker: All the nations of the world eg the pre 1900 criminal laws (not the rubbish criminal laws as created by men (legal) and criminal procedure, law of contracts, torts, principles of equity and justice inheritance and succession laws, family law etc. ALL NATURAL LAWS OF JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS AND EQUITY ALL COME FROM GOD AND THE BIBLE.
Easily disproven, the Code of Hammurabi was written long before the Bible existed.
MaxInDHouse: Really? Like Seriously? OK mention any nation where these BIBLICAL rules are not in force?
“You must not murder. “You must not commit adultery. “You must not steal. “You must not testify falsely when you are a witness against your fellow man. “You must not desire your fellow man’s house. Exodus 20:13-17
1. I asked for examples of nations whose CONSTITUTION was based on the bible or you don't know the difference between constitution and penal code?
2. Some of these laws are universal and existed before people had the Bible or you don't know that your forefathers had these laws before they ever saw or knew what a Bible was?
3. 2 of your stated laws are not crimes in most nations, desiring your neighbours property and adultery. You cannot punish someone for thinking of property that is not theirs, as long as they take no steps to take what doesn't belong to them there is no foul. Aside from Islamic countries and some African countries adultery is not a crime in most of the world's nations.
MaxInDHouse: the best selling book ever, it's the most recited and most nations derived their constitution through consideration of what is written in the Bible.
Really? Mention 5 nations whose constitution was derived from the bible.
Image123: No, they didn't need to literally follow Jesus around as He moved. There were other disciples like Joseph of Arimathaea and Nicodemus who also believed in Jesus and wanted to be like Him. Some 120 disciples were in the upper room in Acts 1. 1Corinth 15v6.
So that means not all Jesus said was for every disciple?
ATHEISTS are people who utterly denounce the existence of God while THEISTS are those who acknowledge the existence of God.
But what about frustrated humans who keeps what they have in mind only to say another thing just to feel like not being left out either claiming ATHEISTS or BELIEVERS?
Well, leave that for Jesus' real disciples, we will fish them out! Matthew 4:19; 10:6
MaxInDHouse: The Bwahahahahaha simply means you've hit LordReed really hard with sound reasoning. If he's making good points he will never come with the "Bwahahahahaha" but when he's been boxed in a tight corner that's his usual rebuttal!
Another dream from the head of MaxInDHouse. LMFAO!
Aemmyjah: Lol Are those your brothers? You don't share common interests or ideas Your common interest is to attack theists
Now,answer me this. Will atheism make the world a better place? If everyone on earth is an atheist, will the world be better or worse in terms of morals, fellow love and care?
You question is like asking if Nigeria will be better if we all liked to eat jollof rice. One has nothing to do with the other.
jaephoenix: Really? Atheism now has a god? Whoa. I must be living under a rock cc Lordreed cc Maynmann Cuman see something. Dictionary meaning for Atheism don change since oh
LMFAO! The way they cook up things is nothing short of amazing. God of atheism indeed. Bwahahahahaha!
Image123: A disciple is a follower of Jesus, a follower of Jesus is a disciple of Jesus. They believe in Him and want to be like Him. So yes, they are disciples and followers of Jesus just like i am.
So how come Martha, Mary and Lazarus didn't leave everything to join Jesus on his journeys? Is that not part of what Jesus says it means to be a disciple of his?
FarmTech: . May be you dont know the other side of God very well. He will still burn sinners in hell. But not b4 giving them the opportunity to turn from their evil ways and follow Christ. God hate sin with passion.
Yet cannot eliminate it. Doesn't sound reasonable at all.
MaxInDHouse: Intelligence is the answer! People keeps a lot of things in their hearts but say things totally different from what they have in mind. So there are many atheists attending religious services and there are many believers claiming atheists. You read their actions not just words!
It's fine if you want to make suppositions about what is in people's minds, I'll stick with what people express themselves.
crystalmoon: Many people claim the traditional gods such as sango , obatala , Ogun and the rest all exist , I find this claim disturbing due to the fact that when slave trade started the gods didn't do anything, Colonialism came they sacked the temples and shrines of these gods nothing happened. The whites came , disregard and disrespected the gods nothing happened Is it that the gods are not real or they are just bidding their time Honest and logical answers please No atheism vs theism argument please
Another indication that god stories are nothing but stories. One can argue that these stories have utility but a story having utility doesn't mean it is true.
Dtruthspeaker: I already contested and answered and you had no valid thing to say, you are just looking for opportunity to spin your evil with nonsense talk.
You contested it by excising it from your response, is that how to contest something. Bwahahahahaha!
FarmTech: . I have already answered your questions. We wont go on and on like this. But for whoever cares to listen, LGTBQ are grave sins b4 God and man. If you are involve in any of them, better repent b4 it is too late.
But you didn't answer my questions.
Your god is too concerned with sex, that tells more about you than you think.
I will not repent from being decent to my fellow human beings. You on the otherhand need to repent and treat people decently.
MaxInDHouse: That's where students under Jesus proved wiser than you people!
An atheist is anyone who doesn't believe in God or Gods. But then is it just by asking them when you and i know for sure that humans do tell lies?
So instead of asking is it not wiser to STUDY the person to be sure of what he has at heart?
I remember a man who claims his father is the richest in his city and that there's no type of food you won't find in his father's house. But while the pauper he told this was following him to his so called "father's house" they found a fallen truck by the road side full of loaves of bread and hungry paupers were rushing the food for survival only for the so called rich man's son to join them and he was more desperate for the bread than the paupers. If you're the one following him will you still continue with him after seeing HIS ACTION?
How else do you know an atheist but the one who tells you he doesn't believe? Or do you cut his head open to look for belief in a god?