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XXXXTENTACION:
I am not suprised by his stupidity but his commitment to the stupidity amazes me i will advise you stop giving him audience hence he infects you with his mental ilness...

His own is a special case, likes trying to be too smart by half.

XXXXTENTACION:
conspiracy theorists...

They just conjecture rubbish out of news tidbits they don’t even bother to read except the sensational headlines. Imagine Maestro21 saying Odaibo's death was being obfuscated, oya now show where, the cat suddenly got his tongue.

ShitStain:
Why you dey quote me this early morning bros

No vex, na person wey wan collect your name naim cause am.

Maestro21:
This is CDC telling you that they consider vaccine breakthrough infection 14 days or more after that person was jabbed. If that is what they count as vaccine breakthrough infection, what will they call vaccine death? Vaccine injury?

Self-deceit is the worst because in your heart, you know, you are defeated.

You're extremely stupid. You can show all other directives but the one you said limits the reporting of deaths to after 14days. You are just huffing and puffing nonsense. What a flaming ninny.

Maestro21:
You are not clever and you are also dishonest. But you made a big mistake and I am sure you have realized it.

My contention is not that it is up to the manufacturer but that the CDC and FDA set the guidelines for how data is stored in VAERS.

So that pdf you attached, the CDC/FDA set it and have power to override it.

Don't answer what they refer to as vaccinated. It has exposed you. Hide your shame there. I always prefer you to hide in shame.

If you are bold tell us what vaccination for COVID-19 means so we can supplant that definition in the guidelines set for reporting data in the VAERS database.

The attached is proof that the CDC and FDA set the guidelines for VAERS.

Can you answer the question and stop trying to run faster than your shadow. If the CDC or FDA put up a guideline with a time limitation show it. Your cretinous dodges won't work.

Maestro21:
I always like it when you expose the piff paff that your brain is filled with.

Is that not the most convenient excuse to deceive you gullible simpletons?

If they know the delta is pervasive and eluding their jabs why mandate those jabs now?

When you want to talk about "pandemic of the unvaxxed" nobody mentions delta. But as soon as the jabbed are getting whacked by the rona, it becomes delta variant.

Delta variant my foot. Asaba variant more like it.

You are an incorrigible cretin. Science is not the magic of your sky daddy you hear. We understand very well that viruses mutate that is why we can tackle developing diseases, while your sky daddy sits by watching porn.

Who said "pandemic of the unvaxxed" doesn’t involve the variants? Another of your crazed conjectures no doubt. Just as you conjectured an obfuscation of Odaibo's death cause out of thin air.

Gerrahiamen

Maestro21:
Can I help a lost cause? Let me try once more.

What does the CDC define as vaccinated? I mean, when the CDC says someone has received vaccination, what do they mean?

Not going to answer your question until you answer my question that bypasses all of your conjectures and goes straight to the heart of the matter. Where does the CDC say that deaths before 14days has lapsed should not be reported? If your contention is its up to the manufacturers then show where the manufacturers gave such a stipulation.

Maestro21:
Lies. 1% vaccinated are getting infected? lol See attached.

Less than 1% of vaccinated die? Does data from Israel agree?

Why do you like building a case out of things that are out of context? The majority of breakthrough infections are of the delta variant and vaccine effectiveness is lower for variants.

Maestro21:
You keep thinking you will insult way out of your obvious goof.

We are talking time interval and you are talking all effects.

Don't forget you tried to lie that there was no time interval and we nabbed you.

CDC told you how to report vaccine injuries or deaths into VAERS database. For COVID-19 jabs which qualifies as a newly recommended, they told you, if the injury is related to the shoulders and is still there 7 days after (because they know it is normal to feel injured within the first 7 days from a needle) report it.

Then they told you if someone faints (it is still common as long as this does not continue 7 days after). If it does, report it.

Then if someone dies having suffered either shoulder injury or fainting after taking a jab, it does not matter when they die, report it as long as it follows fainting or shoulder injury. That is why they said time interval is not applicable here. So they don't need to wait for day 8, if someone had a shoulder injury after the jab in day 1 and dies day 2, report it. If they die day 10, report it.

Then report any events that the manufacturer listed as potential side effects but follow the time interval that the manufacturer listed. If you wanted to make a more robust argument you should have argued that Pfizer listed that Myocarditis and Pericarditis are events that should be reported if experienced within 7 days after taking their jab. See the attached packaged insert.

But I guess you knew that I would have used it to nail you because the CDC overrode that by changing the rules - which is what I told you - when they said Pfizer and co should be counted as vaccinated when an individual has taken their jab and 14 days have passed. Which is why I said it is a fraud since most pericarditis cases happen before 14 days (Pfizer said within 7 days).

And you think writing long winded posts full of crazed conjectures will save you? You said you are quoting the manufacturers insert, where in what you screenshot does it say don't report a death if it occurs before 14 days are up?

Meanwhile read this again and note were it says to report deaths, tell me if it says anything about time intervals to not report a death.

HedwigesMaduro:
The Covid vaccine doesn't seem to be doing any of these from what I've been reading. And these functions seem to directly contradict your op that I first replied to.

Less than 1% of vaccinated people are getting infected. Less than 1% of the vaccinated infected die so what do you mean by its not doing any of these?

Maestro21:
Manufacturers time limit? What are you smoking?

Wooow. So dumb even for you.

Events described in manufacturer's package insert...

What that means is any potential side effects that the manufacturer listed in the leaflet of the packaged medicine. Then they told you a time interval should also be indicated by that same manufacturer.

The time interval for the manufacturer after which (Pfizer for e.g) accept that their jab has taken effect is 14 days after one has received the 2nd jab. So the person reporting a vaccine injury or death into VAERS has to only indicate an effect that has been listed by Pfizer (for e.g you can't report nose bleeds if it is not listed) and is only allowed to report that effect if it occurs after 14 days.

I am tired of schooling you. You are disappointingly stupid.

LMFAO! CDC writes clearly that all effects are to be reported but a dimwit like you conjectures up rubbish because his brain is a rotted mess and you have the gall to call me stupìd. You're an irredeemable cretin.

HedwigesMaduro:
So, what is the purpose of a vaccine?

1. Reduce or eliminate (in the case where the vaccine provides full immunity) incidence of disease.
2. Limit scope of disease effect on the infected.

Maestro21:
Gotcha.

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Maestro21:
It is projected to increase but Billy wants to set a cap on that increase. Like the algebra says.

Fuckwit that is not a solution to getting CO₂ emissions to zero.

Maestro21:
What an unfortunate dolt.

I showed you the VAERS site showing that they record injuries and deaths following a vaccine given the specified time period after that vaccination. Can you deny that?

Your screenshot has exposed you. Don't you ever respond to me again if you cannot answer questions honestly.

Now your screenshot first talks about ROUTINE vaccine injuries to CHILDREN. Don't ignore that.

Second, it lists those injuries as - shoulder related (if it happens 7 days after),
- vasogal syncope (fainting after 7 days after)
- and then any acute complication or death following the 2 prior incidents (the pdf says above events)
- then lastly, any condition that one suffers based on side effects and contraindications that were listed on the insert by the manufacturer (this time AN INTERVAL IS INDICATED) and it says that interval should be what is listed in the insert by the manufacturer.

Pfizer's interval, Moderna's, AZs , J &Js etc are on or after 14 days - CDC website states so.

So what else do you want to say?

I will injure you with facts.

Look at this absolute fuckwit. How does 14 day interval of reckoning one as fully vaccinated equate to manufacturers time limit on reporting deaths after vaccination? Whatever is rotting your brain has accomplished its task totally.

Open the actual pdf and show me where on it says for covid-19 vaccines don't report death in less than 14 days, you imbecilic nematode.

Maestro21:
Learning from the best. Saint Billy and the rest.

Thanks for admitting you are a psychopath, now we know why you're running around with crazed conspiracy theories spilling from your piehole.

Maestro21:
Got em!

God is not insecure if you call him names. Neither am I. I love my sky daddy!

And by the way, I told you P reduction is part of the "solution".

Now go play somewhere kiddo.

You are insecure because Bill Gates mentioned population once in 28min video. Tell sky daddy come comfort you cos you're a scared lil fuçktard. May be he'll stop watching porn long enough to come listen to his lil fuçktard. LMFAO!

P reduction cannot be part of the solution if it is still projected to increase dimwit.

Maestro21:
I am not the demented psychopath.

But I wager if I had a potion that could kill many people in say 2 years of ingesting it, I will get it mandated to everyone in the world as quickly as I can before the 2 years elapses. And if people start dying faster than I projected, I will skew the data counts, hide the deaths and censor anyone that reports them whilst telling the rest of the world, the potion is safe and effective.

You sure sound like a psychopath. You came up with this plan with no proof that this is what is going on. Sounds like you know a thing or 2 about mass murdering.

Maestro21:
Typical dumb atheist.

What a fraud you are.

I never told you that he said only P is the solution. Your strawman type arguments are nauseating.

the CO2 is what he wants to be 0

CO2= P *S *E *C

He said P is increasing already, S is increasing as P is increasing (interdependence). Then he said luckily, E is reducing on its own (energy efficiency) and it is correlated with C (carbon IV oxide emitted per energy released) so C too is reducing on its own as a result of E. But he insists that even with that CO2 (what he wants to be zero) will only reduce by one-half of its 2009 value which is not enough for him.

So we need many ways to get it to something lower. First P should not increase as much as it is project to increase. This will affect S as well.

Then C has to come down by energy miracles - we need energy sources that almost completely reduce CO2 emission.

So ofcourse he wants C to reduce more but he also does want P to reduce as well - he said so.

Let me use numbers if P is 5, S = 4, E= 2.5 C=2, CO2=100

Now C= 0 is impossible so even we reduce it to 1, and E to 2, CO2 will be =40 (treat this as best case)
Bearing in mind that P and S are projected to increase.

Therefore if P is going to be 6.5 and S = 5, even if C is now 1 and E= 2 CO2 will be 65 which is not significant compared to 40 because P and S increased.

Which is why he said if we don't allow it get to 9 billion (in this example 6.5) it will help get the CO2 to something low.

Thus, if P is 5.5 (minimal growth) and S is 4.5 and E is 2 and C is 1 CO2= 49.5 which is comparable to the best case of 40.

That is why he said new vaccines and reproductive healthcare can help prevent P from getting to its projected value.

Go and hide somewhere. Dummy.

LMFAO! Look who is talking about fraud, you who believes in a magic sky daddy that has all the power in the universe and here you are shitting your pants because Bill Gates said population once in a 28min video. You should be ashamed of how much of a patsy you are, believing in sky fairies that can't help your sordid existence.

You're an absolute fuckwit. Is the reduction in P the solution he is proposing to reducing CO₂? Keep fooling yourself.

Go fuçk off into a cold shower you shitstain.

Maestro21:
lol

dumbreed.

There were already hunger deaths and yet with it the population was still going to increase by 34%+ in the timeline Billy was talking about.

So Billy is saying we have to help that hunger death so that we don't get to 9 billion people as part of his "solution".

Do you get it now?

Fuçktard how will vaccine deaths help reduce population when they can't even match deaths from hunger? You've suddenly forgotten how math works? Vaccines deaths are not even up to 1% of death by hunger so explain how they would contribute to lowering population growth?

Maestro21:
Just seeing this.

Did his brother correlate his sudden death to his jabs? Did his coroner do same?

That is not an answer to the question who obfuscated the cause of his death. You claimed there was an attempt to do so, tell me who made the attempt and where.

Maestro21:
It is clearly written by who? Show me another vaccine that the definition of being fully vaccinated has to do with time intervals after taking it? I am waiting.

How can I be merely conjecturing? I did a screenshot from the CDC website. Let me make it larger so you can now do same and prove yours was from the CDC and for COVID-19 vaccine. After all, it has its own category.

Peep the last screenshot from VAERS. it shows again that the report is based on a specified time. So try another lie. I will bring the screenshot showing the pericarditis column. I need a special access. Give me a sec.

Keep dodging the question about Odaibo. You are the one who brought him up now to prove it you are silent.

Maestro21:
It is clearly written by who? Show me another vaccine that the definition of being fully vaccinated has to do with time intervals after taking it? I am waiting.

How can I be merely conjecturing? I did a screenshot from the CDC website. Let me make it larger so you can now do same and prove yours was from the CDC and for COVID-19 vaccine. After all, it has its own category.

Peep the last screenshot from VAERS. it shows again that the report is based on a specified time. So try another lie. I will bring the screenshot showing the pericarditis column. I need a special access. Give me a sec.

Open the VAERS reporting tool and show me where it says you can't report a death less than 14 days after a jab.

Maestro21:
You are asking me a question that proves you are severely dented by cognitive dissonance.

Has hunger not been killing people since before 2010? Yet was world population not projected to still increase in spite of that?

Of course, that is why people need more creative ways to get their agenda sorted. It does not mean it will work by the playbook. At least not now.

As for how many deaths by the jabs, why not ask me how it is supposed to work? It won't work in one fell swoop. They still need vagabonds like you to take jab 3 to infinity. Give it time, they will get you and the bastardfari.

You're an unparalleled nincompoop. How will vaccine deaths be the key to dropping population increase when it is not even up to deaths by hunger in 1 continent alone. You are monumentally stupid.

Maestro21:
lol

I have dumbos triggered because they cannot refute simple algebra.

Let me reiterate it so your usual hot air will only damage you.

P is connected to S which is connected to E which is connected to C.

Bill is saying if we reduce P, we can reduce S which will reduce E and will reduce C.

At no point will C ever be 0 because P exhales CO2, S produces CO2, E produces CO2.

So if even if we try to eliminate C from our energy sources, climate change etc, P increasing will still be producing CO2. We still need P to no increase to the point it is projected to increase to.

Dumbo, refute that. I dare you.

You have to be a real stupido to ignore the things that were actually said in favour of your crazed conjectures. The freaking graphic on the screen clearly shows P and S increasing with E and C decreasing. But fu-cktard like you is bringing up some crazed conspiracy. How can P be the solution if it is increasing you ignoramus.

Pastafari:
I read through the thread, don't you think Maestro21 is one the person the pasta lord was talking about when he said that he created idiots for his own amusement and that of we pastafarians?

Indeed that's why I want the Pasta Lord to play with his rectum.

Maestro21:
I am actually disappointed. Until now, I thought you were the typical atheist that had good knowledge of basic maths and science and thought it was enough to disprove God's existence.

Chai, e pain me. I wasted my time. Chai.

Someone who knows algebra is saying CO2 = P* S *E *C is about C going to 0.

Dummy, none of those figures can ever be 0. The point he was making is if we can bring each of those variables to a reduced state as much as possible we can achieve the unrealistic CO2=0

He said so because each of those variables are interdependent. That is why their units are cross-multipliable. In simple terms he is saying if we reduce population, it will affect services which will affect the amount of energy per service we need which will limit the amount of CO2 we release as a consequence.

Now read the last paragraph again.

Dumbo tell me how many people have died from Covid-19 vaccines if they have reached the number of people hunger is killing in Africa. Stupido.

Pastafari:
Maestro21 cannot die, only the pasta lord says when he dies

May the Pasta Lord insert noodly appendages into his arse in the mean time.

Maestro21:
I am actually disappointed. Until now, I thought you were the typical atheist that had good knowledge of basic maths and science and thought it was enough to disprove God's existence.

Chai, e pain me. I wasted my time. Chai.

Someone who knows algebra is saying CO2 = P* S *E *C is about C going to 0.

Dummy, none of those figures can ever be 0. The point he was making is if we can bring each of those variables to a reduced state as much as possible we can achieve the unrealistic CO2=0

He said so because each of those variables are interdependent. That is why their units are cross-multipliable. In simple terms he is saying if we reduce population, it will affect services which will affect the amount of energy per service we need which will limit the amount of CO2 we release as a consequence.

Now read the last paragraph again.

Fu-cktard, C is where the solution he is proposing is at. You are the dumbass that needs to conjecture rubbish to satisfy whatever crazed conspiracy you come up with. In a 28min 51sec presentation, he mentions population ONCE. Yet dumbo like you thinks Bill Gates whats to kill your generations. A fu-cktard like you would have been dead 20x over if that were the case, killed with prejudice sef.

budaatum:
my pending blindness stops me.

WTH?? O my dear buda what ailest thee? No surgery or treatment options?

Maestro21:
Don't be cute. Prove that the screenshot stating "no time interval" was for COVID-19 vaccine. Your screenshot just states "vaccine". Ofcourse, the CDC never tabulated vaccine deaths with any time interval until COVID-19 jabs.

I showed you what the CDC stated concerning vaccinations for COVID19 and how it is tabulated. If you even checked VAERS you will see that the column under pericarditis has thousands of reports.

As for the nonsense figures you stated there, I don't how slow you want to be today but I quoted the CDC deputy director and I told you how they do the count. You are bandying nonsensical figures that even contradict the CDC deputy director. lol

Meanwhile you dodged the Odaibo question. Repeat: who is obfuscating Odaibo's cause of death?