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BassReeves:
No, not playing games, just playing you back in your own cards

That's the thing, God operates a 24 7 365 days open communications. Communication with God is always unmistakable. God communicates and disseminate information in diverse and dissimilar ways.

Take for example, God communicated to Moses, in form of a bush on flames, that is not burning. Moses, out of curiosity and aroused intrigue, left all he was doing, to turn aside and walk towards the bush to investigate. The rest is history

The point being is that your inability to grasp the existence of a Supreme Self Existent Being, known as God can never be an argument against the existence of God.

LordReed, it's always about timing. If it's too soon, it won't be understood. You'll sooner than later have your time bro beloved.

Yeah right, where is the burning bush lets go talk to your god.

Image123:
Mat 26:63 KJV But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.

The you/ye in verse 64 is plural and in consistency with all other scriptures and accounts prophetic of what would happen to Israel as a nation, not Caiaphas as a person.

This is similar to Peter's preaching at pentecost and Stephen before his martyrdom, it is a general Israel.

Act 2:23 KJV Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 7:43 KJV Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Act 7:51 KJV Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Even if it was plural, the reference would be to the people present there, who are all dead without seeing Jesus come in the clouds as he said.

BassReeves:
I could be. You see, the point is, you wouldnt have known a difference, had it been its an AI you've been conversing with, same way, you havent been able to realise the times when you had informal exchanges with the Godhead, and so preventing you from taking those heart-to-heart moments with the Godhead, as evidence that God exist.

No need to play games, you are not an AI. If I have had communications with a god it would have been at least as clear as our conversation. Just as I currently cannot mistake you for a figment of my imagination or for an improbable AI, I would expect that communication with a god would be that unmistakable.

BassReeves:
lqtm. I can be whatever you need and/or want to believe, me, to be

Good so you are not an AI.

enilove:
God's prophesy says Trump would remain in the office for the second time , that I believe and so it shall be .
Biden will not rule America .


Let's wait and see .

How far? So your god was wrong.

BassReeves:
LordReed beloved! lqtm.

If, Alexa, Siri, or Google Assistant understands what people say and provides potential answers to almost all their question or queries. If Deep Blue could beat Garry Kasparov, why you are saying there is no AI that is capable of this sort of communication, as of now, we both together are having?

The other day, recently in fact, a colleague, pulled out his phone, and spoke into it, asking what company's turnover for last year was and got a factual answer back.

On a side note, I understand your position from once reading someone type below:
'A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God.'

Are you an AI?

BassReeves:
You've had similar informal exchanges with the Godhead, so why havent you taken those heart-to-heart moments with the Godhead too, as evidence that God exist?

I have not.

Taking all things into consideration you equally could be conversing with an AI.

There is no AI that is capable of this sort of communication as of now.

Ehiscotch:
In an ideal world this would be but certainly not this one.

I disagree. In an ideal world purpose will be uniform. It is because we are not in an ideal world that purpose is individualised.

bipng:
Am think if our life have or purpose or is it that we are just born live for some years and then died. That is all

The purpose is the purpose you choose it to be.

Bacteriologist:
I disagree completely with this.

Why?

SSIPON:
God can restore eyesight.
God can raise the dead.
God can help you find your lost car keys.
God can heal the sick.
God can change your HIV status.
God can literally glue fallen ears back in place.

But, God cannot restore the limbs of amputees why?

Why is it that the so-called miracles are usually things that are easily faked, like blindness or an HIV test result.

Why do the so called miracles only happen in churches and not actual hospitals??

Because god is just the natural things people are yet to be able to explain. Amputated limbs cannot grow back naturally so god is not to be found there. Some illnesses can go into remission for reasons we are yet to be able to explain suddenly god can be found there. Can humans fly without mechanical aids nope so you'll never see them claim god made them fly yet they believe Jesus and angels can fly without mechanical aid.

SSIPON:
Nigerians worship their pastors. Their pastor is sinless. He can never lie. Every word that comes out of his mouth is true. It doesn't matter how absurd it sounds, like angels sending money into bank accounts or the pastor having tea with God, as long as their pastor said it, then it's most definitely true.

Their country is falling apart. They've got more churches and mosques than health care centres. Nigeria is the hotbed of all sorts of conspiracy theories which a shockingly large amount of people believe. For example, in this time and age, some of them believe that the earth is flat, or that the vaccine is of the "devil". It's to no surprise how these absurd conspiracies have such a hard grip on them, given how ignorance and illiteracy is celebrated in the country.

Nigerians want the kidnappings to end, but at the same time, they are not willing to let go of some superstitious beliefs that encourage those kidnappings in the first place. That's why you see innocent people getting kidnapped by ignorant fools who think a certain deity will give them wealth in exchange for the blood of a virgin, and yes I am talking about this thing called "money ritual". The Nollywood industry is also in on this, they keep making movies that depict people getting rich after murdering a family member, because they know that's what their target demographic believes in.

Churches are easy businesses, some might even call them, the "perfect scam". The church pays no taxes, it's demographic is literally a scammer's wet dream and politicians pander around them. It is much easier to start a church than a business in Nigeria.

The Nigerians themselves are homophobic hypocrites. No wonder the country ranked 4th among the countries that googled the most gay pornography in the world. So homophobic, yet so homoerotic *spits*. Hypocrisy runs deep in their blood, they are one of the most religious nations in the world, yet somehow they are also one of the most corrupt.

Oh no, I am not done pointing out the hypocrisy of Nigerians, they want the freedom to practice their religion, but they are not willing to extend that freedom to non-Abrahamic religions. The Christians, themselves take pride in assaulting traditional worshippers, calling them derogatory names and even burning their places of worship (shrines) without batting an eyelid. But if a church is burned down, all hell will break loose, and the Christians will cry, "persecution", how ironical.

What adherents don't understand is religion doesn't provide any more power than what is already capable in nature so if people don't work toward success of any kind that venture will not succeed. As it is said "God dey!" is the motto of the powerless, if you sell your power to religion you will become powerless and start uttering useless panaceas like "God dey". Yo will only see the success you are involved in making possible.

I find no reason to believe in any religion. Islam is a reiteration of the Jewish religion which is decidedly quite violent, it presents more reason not to believe.

Image123:
This is a prophecy quoted from the Old Testament. It refers to the Israelites, not exactly the direct/personal killers or soldier crucifiers if any word like that. We surely know it's not referring to the very soldier that nailed Him. It's like referring to government, it's not really one direct person.

Zec 12:10 KJV And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

How about this one:

63 But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.

64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Was he not saying Caiaphas would see him come in his glory?

HellVictorinho:
How did they get the grunts(sounds) ?


I think they appeared with the ability to make such sounds


Humans still make certain sounds like "Yeeeeeeeeeeee!"

'Arrrrrrrrrrtt!'



'Hmmmmmm'



'Whaaaaaaaaaaat!'

Sure. Our vocal cords must have developed as a way to make sounds and the more complex the cords became the more range of sounds we could make.

armstrongadeola:
Good evenning house ,

I just want to ask this simple question !

What will you do if for the first week you get your salary paid into your son account and your wife withdrew #35,000 but lied she withdrew #30,000 ?

This is what happened .She gets the SMS notification from our son account and she also keep the ATM card but all I do is to get the mail notification.

Tonight ,she was indirectly complaining she doesn't have money and I asked her how much she withdrew in the last five days and she said #30,000 but the mail notification I got showed she withdrew #5,000,#15,000 and #15,000 on Monday and Tuesday (this week ).

The amount that dropped in the account was #150,000 and she was the one that even started doing transfer for those we needed to settle last sunday when my salary dropped .

We paid our son school fee ,sent little amount to my sister and little amount to her mum and her elder sister and I borrowed #13,000 from the money for transportation.We paid debt of #20,000 .

I stay and work on the island while I go home three times a week (mainland)

In all these,she was able to withdrew #35,000 and I was surprised she was telling me this night to get the money someone was owing me so that I can return the #13,000 I got because all what we have as balance in the account is #2,000 .

I was like is she trying to tell me she have finished the #35,000 with her and jokingly I said how much did you even withdraw from the salary and she said #30,000 !

I asked her if she was sure and she said that's what she withdrew .I now sent the notification I got to her and she was shocked and refused to reply me since 8pm .

My question is why did she lie ? Definitely ,she know she took #35,000 (#5,000 &#15,000 on Monday&another #15,000 on tuesday )but I am still shocked why she lied and why she is insisting on getting the #13,000 she transferred to me from my own sweat !!

Seriously ,I have lost my trust in her .This is someone who I have never benefitted anything from her rather than the fact that we have a son together after our wedding .

I love her so much and we have been together since 2013 .I have never seen any trace of infidelity in her but she locks her phone with heavy security just because I lock mine and that have never cause an issue but I still don't know why she had to lie this night !

Is there something I don't understand ?

She have definitely been a good wife since we settled down( with prayer and moral support )and she always stand by me in term of better and worse and she is not wayward despite how pretty she is .

But why did she lie ?

Most likely because she knows you would not approve of the use she put the money to so she wants you to return the 13k so she can cover up. People lie for all sorts of reasons from small to big. Get her to open up to you on what she used the money for, make her know that you won't be cross with her but you must know.

HellVictorinho:
How did they get the identifiers??

Probably differing levels of grunts giving rise to the first forms of syllables.

https://www.thoughtco.com/where-does-language-come-from-1691015#:~:text=Here%2C%20identified%20by%20their%20disparaging%20nicknames%2C%20are%20five,as%20moo%2C%20meow%2C%20splash%2C%20cuckoo%2C%20and%20bang%20.

Dtruthspeaker:
After much thinking and thinking and thinking. (After thought), The Serpent Returns to snake again.

I already earlier we deal with Wholes.

A plot (of land PRESUMABLY) is a Whole

The Natural word is

"I want to buy land.

How many plots?

2 WHOLE Plots of land"! THAT'S ALL!

The Number you are calling is not available, Don't Try Again Later!

LMFAO! Someone has 25 plots so you can't buy 2 out of them because 2/25 is fraction you can't deal with. Suugbe. Bwahahahahahahaha!

budaatum:
Lawyer, can't buy 2 plots out of 25.

The quack! LMFAO!

BassReeves:
LordReed, beloved, iron sharpens iron and so the reason why I can say that I clearly am enjoying rubbing minds with you

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5g2UZr5RGgg/maxresdefault.jpg

Please tell from the above picture:
1. Does the dung beetle and the human being pointing at the dung beetle have a similar physical design, to focus at the least and obvious?
2. Does the dung beetle and the human being pointing at it have the same exclusive specific highest level and/or overarching purpose in life?

You pointed out eyes, DNA and delicate inner parts all of which the beetle has.

Do you have evidence to believe that I exist?
Give me your evidences, of your reasons to believe that a human being such I exists

PS: https://www.youtube.com/c/AndrewHubermanLab/featured
Check out interesting stuff discussing the varied designs of a Creative Supernatural Being from Huberman Lab Channel link above hosted by Dr. Andrew Huberman.

I am having a conversation with you is the evidence that you exist. At this time no other thing or being aside from humans can converse in the manner we are conversing.

HellVictorinho:
Off course


Nobody taught me


I observed occurrences around me


But how did the first language speaking humans get it?



Didn't they appear with the knowledge

While we can't know for certain it is highly unlikely. What is more likely is they began to find patterns in the world around them and began to have identifiers for these patterns.

TenQ:
Since you have concluded that man is more akin to a mechanical CLOCK than an Advanced AI robot, then its a waste of time discussing this with you

Well then I shall not waste any more of your time. Adios amigo.

hupernikao:
If your narrative is based on false premise, like not sure I like pounded yam but you speaking about my love for it, then your writing shouldn't be taken seriously and all of your other writing can be taken as just gossip or jokes.

So I must treat your all write up the same way, else it becomes a double standard. Since they never knew Christ but mentioned him, then all of their historical records must be interpreted as such. A mention of what never existed but spoken about.

The Romans themselves believed in other gods so are you suggesting we should ignore all their records because they believed in what doesn't exist?

azraeljaheel:
Lordreed
please mention me on your take on this topic

Variations of this challenge have been around for some time now and no one has been able to claim a kobo. Some people will say it doesn't prove that a god doesn't exist but the silence is deafening.

BassReeves:
Please what problem to be solved is this?

You're conflating two different issues here. All things arent given the same design, All things also dont have the same purposes

In the midst of purposes, there is an exclusive specific highest level and/or overarching purpose in life for a human being,

Well you talked about DNA, eyes, delicate inner parts and so on, all of the things other animals with different purposes have. Your god is so unimaginative he just reused the same design in creatures with different purposes. Telling me that purpose and overarching purpose are different doesn't do anything to dispel your god's unimaginativeness.

Absence of not presenting you with the truth of the existence of such a Being, is not evidence of absence of the existence of such Being.

The absence means I have no reason to believe such a being exists.

hupernikao:
Okay. This one you wrote is not just about them writing what they felt or said but reality. But the one they wrote about Christian's Christ is just about writing what they said, not reality. Right?

If I write that you like eating pounded yam, am I writing about pounded yam or your love for pounded yam?

Workch:
Satan is actually nicer than the Christian definition of god

LMAO!

BassReeves:
This comment, on multiple leaping levels, is fundamentally flawed

You still havent got your head round the disparity between purposes and overarching purpose

How does that solve the problem? You state that a god created you with an overarching purpose that is different from the overarching purpose of other animals and I point out that he gives you all the same design, a sign your god lacks imagination. Stating that overarching purpose is different from purpose makes no difference to the statement.

I have what's better, superior and more powerful than 'good luck'

Well then good for you.

What are your reasons for not accepting the existence of a Supernatural Being?
What are your reasons for not admitting the truth of the existence of such Supernatural Being?

I have not been presented with the truth of the existence of such a being.

TenQ:
.

You should watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtuNM45aT8

hupernikao:
Add the facts that its a theological book too.

Sure.

hupernikao:
Nah soo. I expect this. They must be gossipers then not historians. Since they are good in documenting gist about Christians.

It just takes turning to the light to see clearly. That's all it takes.

Well Christians were considered enemies of the state so I don't see how that makes it gossip.

TenQ:
Can you solve any arithmetic addition between any two arbitrary whole numbers?
Of course, the answer is YES.
Have you solved ALL possible arithmetic addition of integers before?
NO, you havent.
So, how do you KNOW that you can solve any arithmetic addition between any two arbitrary whole numbers?
LOGIC SAYS:
The rules of mathematics are invariable, thus if you can use the rules of mathematics to correctly solve problems of additions, then the same rule will help you solve any future arithmetic addition problems.

Can we say the statement of Logic above is not evidence of the reality or truthfulness of the answer to the question.

I have never seen a math textbook that gives you theorems without giving you problems to solve with the theorems. They do that so you can test for yourself that the theorems hold true, they don't expect you to believe the theorems are true just because it is logical.

Well then you'll have to prove that your statement below is correct
The records of all the wars, famines, epidemics, natural disasters are not physical evidence prove that God doesn't exist

That is not a statement I made.

The inflation theory (update of Big babg theory) proves otherwise. The age of the universe is approximately 13.8 billion years.
Thus the universe has a beginning

The BBT says the universe expanded from a singularity, it doesn't say nothing existed before the BB happened. The singularity could have been existing forever before the BB, we have no way of knowing for now.

If you want to use the Bible God as your example, then, you'll have to ask yourself the question
1. In the Bible, even in Israel, does God ALWAYS interfere with nature?
2. In the bible, has there been EarthQuakes, Wars, Famines, Disasters etc on the earth?

How then is today different?

The bible god saved Israelites from slavery it says in the bible yet in WW2 6million of them were killed, what was he looking at? Why did he not intervene to save them?

Unfortunately, the God of the Bible has never been described as a PHYSICAL BEING.
God is a Spirit.

A Spirit is any Conscious Being with no material Body.

Shutting out your mind on this possibility does not change anything

You asked me how to prove a physical god so blame yourself for the question.

Do these beings without material bodies have any attributes that we can test?

Now, since you have concluded that man is more akin to a mechanical CLOCK than an Advanced AI robot, then its a waste of time.

Don't forget that Object oriented programming is an attempt to clone how humans reason to computer programming:
Polymorphism,
Encapsulation,
Data Abstraction and
Inheritance

Well sorry (not!) to burst your bubble.