Romance › Re: I Have 800k, What Profitable Business Can I Venture Into by lordskenny(m): 4:59pm On Dec 13, 2022 |
SergeantTitus: I have 800k, what profitable biz can I do . if you are a serious type. you can message me on whatsapp 08167752042. that is if you are interested in agribusiness. you can start cocoa, palm kernel cashew business. |
Business › Sell Your Farm Products At International Rate. by lordskenny(op): 1:00pm On Nov 30, 2022*. Modified: 11:32am On Feb 02 |
Do You need urgent money and you have any kind of farm products? no more. This is a period for wise farm to make good money. we buy different kind of farm products such as Cocoa beans, Cashew nuts, soybeans, palm kernel, etc. |
Culture › Seven Categories Of Women by lordskenny(op): 12:20pm On Nov 27, 2022 |
Among the Yoruba people, women are grouped into seven different categories. Two of the categories are regarded as wife materials, two are barely good as bedmates, while the remaining three are those you don’t touch with a six-inch pole, for any reason. They have a saying for that: “meje l’obinrin mo. Meji laa fe, meji laa ba lo’po. Meta to ku, makan ni”. For the purpose of this discourse, I will mention the last three that our elders warn us not to marry. The first is the dirty woman (obinrin obun). If you marry her, you risk the health of the entire family. The second is the proud woman (obinrin onigberaga). This one carries the pride of her father’s household on her shoulders everywhere she goes. She is the arrogant type; a peacock of a personage. She talks down on people, sees everyone as an extension of her father’s servants. She measures every person she comes across by the affluence of her family. God help any average man who suffers the misfortune of having such a woman as wife. The problem with this type is that no matter what you do, she sees herself as the master and her opinion alone counts. She is a modern day “boss lady”. The last of the trio is the indecorous woman. She is the worst type imaginable. She is simply referred to as “asa obinrin”. She is temperamental, simply incorrigible, very untrainable, intractable and pathetically uncharitable. “Asa obinrin” is not just mannerless; she is also shameless. She is like Yanrinbo, the wife of Tortoise, who was absent when Orunmila was sharing dignity and moral rectitude. She does the unthinkable. She fights, drinks and gets drunk; commits adultery and when she gets back home, unties her wrapper for her husband to have his due benevolence. Asa Obinrin is “makan” – touch not. Her Odu Ifa prescribes “obu”, the one that has no principles of life, and no man marries her and lives happily thereafter. She is not just bad-headed; she is equally double left- footed (elese osi meji). This type is also called “ba’seje” – the spoiler of that which is good. She is also called “pami nku obinrin, ti nsoribenbe soko”(the daredevil who challenges her own husband) A man marries an “asa obinrin” at the expense of his joy and happiness; respect and dignity. Whenever her Odu surfaces on the divination board, the Babalawo asks that it should be thrown away. Once a man marries her, she becomes undetachable! The man gets disentangled from her evil grips only by divine intervention. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Should Christian Couples Practise Other Styles Of Sex Apart Frm Conventionastyle by lordskenny(m): 11:50am On Nov 27, 2022 |
Blessedmercy8: Someone raised this question in church last week being a family weekend in my denomination. She asked if it's right for christian couple to do other sex styles apart from the "mummy and daddy " style and there were mixed reactions from the youth and some of our old school parents.
One elderly woman said, there's only one way to the door while some young mothers said if both parties agree then it's fine but I ( representing the youth) was of the opinion that it's a sin. This didn't go down well with some of our middle aged mommies until I backed it up with some points..
One of the mommies was like, since they are now married, they own their bodies and can do whatever they like with it but I countered her by asking if such styles glorify God.
I went on to ask where such styles were copied from... Pornography. This dirty styles were not in existence before now and was not practised by our forefathers; even if it was, it was probably during Sodom and Gomorrah and we all know God's take on their actions. Now bringing to our own time, these styles became popular when pornography took over the internet and most couples practicing it learnt it from pornographic contents ( which is a sin) probably during their worldly days and are now gradually bringing such practice into the church and trying to paint it nice by saying their bodies belong to each other therefore they can do anything.
Pornography where these styles emanated from is a sin and this makes the practice of such styles a sin as it doesn't give glory to God but the devil. As christians, I believe everything should be done in moderation and to the glory of God.
Remember, your body is the temple of the holy spirit. So, do not use worldly practices and fetishes to defile your bodies.
What you guys think?
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Ok guys, I see everyone trying to justify this act by saying it's not stated anywhere in the bible what styles couples should do but at the same time condeming the act of anal sex. What a double standard.
Now, if we are to go by your submissions, where is it stated in the bible that the VJ is the right entrance and not anal?
Were Adam and Eve taught where to use, going by your argument? No, they chose it themselves. So why kick against anal if I can't kick against different styles?
This shows that we all have a sense of right and wrong and should be able to do the right thing and not try to bend it to favor us when it's not convenient reason some can say anal sex is wrong and different styles is not right. Simple!
This is one of the reasons I concluded that most Christians in Nigeria are stupid and senseless while they think they are practicing faith. This is the reason why we are not developing as nation because almost every Religious leaders in Nigeria are deliberately brainwashing their members with stupid doctrines. Why would a reasonable person ask this kind question? where in the Bible that God, Jesus or Paul describe the kind of sex style we should embrace in the marriage. |
Celebrities › Re: Throwback Photos Of IVD And His Late Wife Bimbo When They Were Young Lovers by lordskenny(m): 8:42am On Oct 16, 2022 |
MufasaLion: Don't be deceived by all those lies on the internet. The truth is that she was with him before his breakthrough and they both would have been in a toxic relationship.
People in toxic relationship don't wanna leave because of the money and soft life they enjoy, coupled with the fact that the lady had been with him for years and she didn't wanna leave because another woman would take her place. I don't pity her because she was just being foolish. Toxic relationship or marriage should never be tolerated, irrespective of the years you've been with your partner/spouse. . you are still a kid mentally because you haven't understood the meaning of life and relationship. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bull Baal Worship: Should Christians Withdraw From Future Commonwealth Games? by lordskenny(m): 2:28pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
If you are not seeing anything wrong in this, that means you lack common sense. what does this bull image has to do with sport. Must this people always go extreme?. what does this contribute to the game if there is nothing behind it. |
Romance › Re: MEN!! This Photo Explains Why MARRIAGE Should Be The LAST Thing On Your Mind!! by lordskenny(m): 7:26pm On Aug 13, 2022 |
TheGidRedpiller: She has been tightening herself this whole time, always trying to look peng, accommodating and even trying to look like the ideal housewife material, at the point, she will cook, she will clean, she will do whatever. MARRY HER FIRST!!
When she knows that she has achieved what has always wanted, my brother, she will free herself, she will begin to bring out her true self. All of a sudden, she expects you to provide everything, she expects you to hire a cook, she expects you to understand that she doesn't take in nonsense! Then you begin to wonder where the good girl you once knew went to! SHE HAS WON!
You are trapped in a cage that only her has the keys to, nothing you do to redeem yourself will completely work in your favour, the best you can do is divorce and i'm sorry to tell you but that will only ruin you, are you prepared to let her walk away with everything you have worked for all your life
Still Typing... The point is that you will eventually get married one day. seriously I don't bother myself about all these, since I know that they are necessary devil with shallow brain. I usually told any girl I dated that I don't care. I'm a mirror, the way you show yourself to me exactly you would meet. If you like behave like animal you will see real animal in me, if you behave like angel, you will see the angel in me. I'm not on this planet to entertain nonsense from any girl. |
Education › Re: Oyo Return Of Schools To Missionaries: ‘you Shall Sleep No More’ – MURIC by lordskenny(m): 10:26pm On Aug 05, 2022 |
mignone: Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) on Friday gave the Oyo State Governor, Seyi Makinde, notice to quit the government house by 2023.
The quit notice was given over the governor’s plan to return schools to missionaries which was announced yesterday.
The quit notice was contained in a press statement issued by the director of MURIC.
The statement read, “Governor Seyi Makinde of Oyo State yesterday announced his plan to return public schools to missionaries. We receive this announcement with a pinch of salt. It is a blow below the belt. It is arbitrary, a betrayal of trust, and a most provocative move. Coming at a time Muslim liberation struggle is at its peak, the move is most unwise, audacious, and insensitive. It had better not be. Makinde should perish the thought.
“The governor is acting the script written by the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN). It will fail. Those schools are our common patrimony. He cannot give them out just like that after the government has spent billions of Oyo State taxpayers’ money on adding more, renovating, purchasing equipment and maintaining the infrastructure, paying teachers’ salaries, etc for more than 50 years.
“The idea is to perpetuate the suppression of Muslim children in public schools by claiming that the schools belong to missionaries. These are neo-imperialists seeking all means to remain relevant, powerful, and dominant.
“Yet the so-called missionary schools were built on land belonging to our Muslim forefathers who were deceived by the Christian colonialists into giving out the land ‘gratis’ in most cases. Apart from the land which was given free, our Muslim forefathers also paid tax into the coffers of the colonialists to build the schools. Nobody should try to pull the wool over our eyes. The difference between the colonial government and the missionaries is like six and half dozen. Peter was robbed to pay Paul. The colonialists collected our hard-earned money and gave the missionaries.
“It was the mother of all treacheries when the colonialists gave the schools missionary names after completing the buildings. Not only that, they turned round to bite the finger that fed them by rejecting Muslim children who refused to change their names to Christian nomenclatures. Majority of the Muslims had to succumb. Thus Abdul Rasheed became Richard, Yusuf became Joseph, Ishaq became Isaac and Maryam became Mary.
“Anybody who observes the trajectory of Makinde’s administration will know that he came with the sole agenda of subjugating Muslims in Oyo State to the whims and caprices of CAN. But the Muslims of Oyo State will resist this with every legitimate means at their disposal.
“There must be consequences for irresponsible and reckless leadership. There will be peaceful rallies and protests until Makinde rescinds his decision. The Muslim youths in the state have taken Makinde’s plan to return schools to missionaries as a confrontation. Already, the Muslim Students Society of Nigeria (MSSN) has fired the first salvo. Makinde has miscalculated. He assumes that his very few contract-seeking Muslim business partners control the Muslim community of Oyo State. He will soon know the truth.
“Makinde is in the habit of snatching from the Muslims what belongs to them. Yet he wants Muslims in the state to continue to cooperate with his administration. He lives in self-delusion with his divide et impera as he hoodwinks an infinitesimal minority of Muslim dealers and ignores the real Muslim leaders. With this ill-advised announcement, he has betrayed those few stomach-infrastructure Muslim dealers who always claimed they needed to be near the governor.
“Makinde will soon know his fate. Muslims will teach him an electoral lesson. We expect Oyo governors to take a cue from what happened to Bola Ige in 1983. Nobody plays with Muslim interest in Oyo State and gets away with it.
“Makinde started by toying with the Hijrah holiday which his Muslim predecessor (ex-governor Ajimobi) gave us. He also refused to issue any circular on hijab to date. He marooned his Muslim deputy governor for three good years until the latter was eventually impeached and replaced with a Muslim-by-name deputy. Seyi Makinde’s anti-Muslim agenda cannot stomach the idea of a genuine Muslim deputy governor.
“We hereby give the ‘Eleyi of Agodi’ notice to quit Agodi Government House come 29th May, 2023. The Muslim dealers masquerading as Muslim leaders and romancing with our traducers for contracts will not be able to save him. Makinde’s days in the government house are numbered. He has murdered sleep. From this day to 29th May, 2023, Makinde shall sleep no more. We advise him to start loading his backpack with his most essential commodities from today.
“MURIC calls on Muslims in Oyo State to possess their possessions. We shall all face Allah Yawm al-Qiyamah to report what we did for Islam and the Muslims. How did we meet the Ummah of Muhammad (SAW) and how did we leave it? It is time for Oyo Muslims to decide whether they want freedom or slavery. Those who do not respect and preserve our spiritual heritage must not be allowed to rule us. Makinde must not be allowed to stay in Agodi Government House a day beyond 29th May, 2023.”
https://dailypost.ng/2022/08/05/return-of-schools-to-missionaries-you-shall-sleep-no-more-islamic-group-gives-gov-makinde-quit-notice/?amp=1 I'm not sorry to say that this man is an educated illiterate. I'm just tired reading post by senseless religionist in this country. |
Romance › Re: If You Want To Have Healthy And Intelligent Children by lordskenny(m): 1:03pm On Aug 05, 2022 |
jeromestarks: Are you married? I married my babe mama when she was just 21years old and she frustrated hell out of my life. We ended the marriages. Now she 33years old. anytime we talked she usually told me that assuming me she was mature then as she is now, she won't have left me. so please stop posting something immature here. |
Romance › Re: If You Want To Have Healthy And Intelligent Children by lordskenny(m): 12:54pm On Aug 05, 2022 |
jeromestarks: Marry a young virgin woman (17 -23) anything above this age will only produce poor quality children. No matter how Healthy you eat, exercise and or visit the hospital, you can never be happy dating a woman above 23. Once a woman is 30, avoid her! (You can keep her for sex though) Once a woman is not a virgin, avoid her( you can also date her just for sex). If you marry any woman above 23, you will experience sadness and you will age faster and die before you are 70. Believe me or not, it's the truth. God, why we still have this kind of mental derailed people in this country! |
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Politics › Re: Police Arrest Ibadan-based Broadcaster, Oriyomi Hamzat by lordskenny(m): 4:27pm On May 26, 2022 |
Mickykarim: WHICH TRUTH?
THE AUTOPSY REPORT INDICATED OTHERWISE.
As much as I do not condone whatever the event that might caused his death and as sad as it appears. These quack fake none journalist should have allowed the law take it's regular course instead of constituting themselves into unsolicited judge and the law.
IT HAS BEEN PREJUDICE ALL THE WAY PASSING JUDGEMENT ON A MATTER BEFORE THE COURT. EXCEPT YOU PREFER ANARCHY. please what is your age or are not a Nigerian. so you still believe in Nigeria justice? a country where chief just of the federation assassinated and nothing happened, where even lawyers were voluntary defending the murderers etc. do you still believe in this system of government that restrict your right of freedom of speech. that surrounded himself with liars and deceivers. |
Politics › Re: Police Arrest Ibadan-based Broadcaster, Oriyomi Hamzat by lordskenny(m): 4:14pm On May 26, 2022 |
Mickykarim: THIS SHOULD OR MIGHT SERVE AS DETERRENT AGAINST OBSTRUCTION OF LEGITIMATE STATUTORY LEGAL INVESTIGATION AND COURSE OF JUSTICE. ESPECIALLY WITH A COURT RULING OR INJUNCTION FOR RESTRAIN ON THE SUBJECT MATTER.
THESE UNTRAINED AGENTS OF MISINFORMATION DISINFROMATION AND BIASED MALAISE INFORMATION DISSEMINATION NEEDS TO BE CAUTIONED FOR RECKLESS INFORMATION ACTIVITIES ALL IN THE NAME AND GUISE OF MISPLACED INTERNET SOCIAL MEDIA ACTIVITIES.
For some of us who do not share the social media menace and the platform it offers nuisances who parades themselves as journalists should begin to heave sighs of relief.
The IDIOT with street urchin personality, a quack who claims to be a journalist and a fake one for that matter goes about with PREJUDICED reportage on ongoing judicial matters that are still in court and despite a court INJUNCTION.
HE IS KNOWN TO OFFER BOTH OPINION AND PASS JUDGEMENT ON JUDICAL MATTERS BEFORE THE COURTS.
The case in purview has been exposed and declared to be CONTRADICTED by the release of AUTOPSY report on it and made public in the court.
THESE IDLE BUSY-BODY NOSEY INTERLOPERS WHO ADORNS THE SOCIAL MEDIA SPACE WITH FOUL MENTALITY GEOS ABOUT AS BLOGGERS AND OR INTERNET JOURNALISTS HAVE CONSTITUTED THEMSELVES INTO NAUSEATING IRRITANT. THEY DEFAME ANYONE AND ANYBODY WITH LIBELOUS AND NONSENSICAL RENDITIONS IN GUISE OF NEWS AND INVESTIGATION.
Prof. Wole Soyinka once had a name or label for the egregious obnoxious bunch. Permanent Internet Resident Idiots, in my own words and they truly are.
IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THE LAW TAKES CARE OF THE FOUL SENSES THAT GOES ABOUT DESTROYING AND MALIGNING PEOPLE AND CONSTITUTE THEMSELVES INTO THE LAW.
The impunity with which these bunch of obnoxious notoriety conducts themselves should be CONTAINED and it is my hope that this is the starting point to cleansing the daily abuses heaped on our sanity. . I just want you to know that if lie travels for 20years truth will overtake it in a minute. you people can't continue to threatening to stop saying the truth. All your propaganda, manipulations and evil plan will be exposed. like last bomb explosion in Kano but your police commissioner for that matter lied to the public that it was gas explosion. if you like speak in tongue, it is all senseless to those us that already know the truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: You Shall Not Die- Osinachi's Children Pray For Her On Her Last Birthday (Video) by lordskenny(m): 2:00pm On Apr 13, 2022 |
Malory: The husband is a beast. He might be from the west You no get joy at all. who no know the tribe wey no get respect and behave like monkey. |
Celebrities › Re: Justin Dean: Korra Obidi Only Cheated At The Beginning, The Children Are Mine by lordskenny(m): 10:41am On Mar 14, 2022 |
This for naija men. no go kill yourself. If Na dey doubt your wife or girlfriend. you fit fix ham with our traditional science. you fit monopolise her pu...y for your own use alone. you can contact me if you are interested. |
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Family › Re: When A Wife Returns After Separation by lordskenny(m): 9:26pm On Feb 08, 2022 |
Babsojimjim: Dear all, permit me to use this medium to seek for mature and experienced advise...
When a wife out of her own wish without any current justifiable reason seperates from her husband for almost two months and has now decided to return back with the kid out of her own wish without any pressure, should the man accept her back?
Also should there be conditions attached before the man can accept her back? Mature and experienced input is highly appreciated.
Thanks all. I'm here to talk from the experience. it is very dangerous to accept her back because hmm, from many I had witnessed nothing good came from their apology. I think a real man must not dare his life accept her back based on your explanation. |
Romance › Re: My Woman's Sex Libido Just Increased by lordskenny(m): 12:04pm On Feb 05, 2022 |
Kriss216: That's not true. If she's doing it with a pro, she will automatically lose interest doing it with her amateur boyfriend.
I'm guessing she's exploring all that on porn videos. While the guy is away, the girl is busy exploring sex styles online. She must be a heavy masturbator.
She's a good girl. My kind of girl .
OP, if you're not interested in her again, DM her number to me. Thanks. you are a reasonable being. |
Celebrities › Re: Throwback Photo Of 2pac Amaru Shakur by lordskenny(m): 10:38am On Jan 29, 2022 |
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Crime › Re: "I Strangled Her With Her Hijab" - Kidnapper Slaughters 13-Year-Old Girl In Kano by lordskenny(m): 6:33pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
airminem: Useless afonja has influenced aboki and murder a 13years old wife to a mallam in kano.
Afonjaaa, they are now finding their way to kano to practice their trade(rituals)
RIP to the child . You are a greatest fool of highest order. what kind of stupid comment did you make? you are from which state or region maggot? |
Politics › Re: Oseni Rufai Grills Jibrin Over Tinubu's Source Of Wealth, Age, Bullion Vans by lordskenny(m): 6:23pm On Jan 12, 2022 |
FreeStuffsNG: If the questions were not pedestrian, Jibril Abdulmumin, PhD, won't have ignored his question. The age of Asiwaju Tinubu is in public domain and Asiwaju Tinubu has already addressed the unnecessary politicization of his right to procure services to get a secured cash to his house as a private citizen. Ruffy should be asking questions on emerging and serious issues that help us know how prepared Asiwaju' s team is for the job. I know a few of such questions but won't state them here but asking a campaign manager for the age of his principal for such important interview is useless and unproductive use of people time. Hence, he was ignored on that question. Those whose only political strategy for winning election is by deploying lies, bigotry and tribal bitterness will lose las las. They always lose but still never learn because their hearts are filled with bitterness. My appeal goes to the media to be serious minded. Nigerians rely on them to grill the candidates on serious issues of governance.
Please vote for Asiwaju Tinubu. Asiwaju Tinubu is extremely capable and competent to lead Nigeria to greater heights. God bless Nigeria forever. PhD my foot. are you saying he has right to ignore such question because he is PhD holder or what nonsense are you saying. Is he using his real age? how did gather His wealth? was that too much to ask about someone that wants to rule the country? you are just being sentimental. Because he ruled Lagos state means I can rule the country? The fact that You are one of supporters shouldn't affect your level of your reasoning now. |
Fashion › Re: Hisbah To Grill Shatu Garko's Parents Over Illegal Participation In Miss Nigeria by lordskenny(m): 5:48pm On Dec 22, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo Lays Hands On Rev Esther Ajayi, Prays For Her (Photos) by lordskenny(m): 12:47am On Dec 12, 2021 |
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Celebrities › Re: "Amala Is Trash And Should Be Banned" - Bbnaija's Yerins Blows Hot (photos) by lordskenny(m): 2:26pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
onyi25: "Amala Is Trash And Should Be Banned" - BBNaija's Yerins Blows Hot
Former Big Brother Naija shine ya eye housemate, Yerimene Abraham aka Yerin has indirectly declared war on all Yorubas after he took to social media to call their native swallow food, amala, trash.
According to the 27 year old who has finally tasted it, amala is overrated and should be banned.
For those who do not know, àmàlà is a very popular local indigenous Nigerian swallow food, native to the Yoruba ethnic group in the western states of the country.
It is made out of yam and/or cassava flour, or unripe plantain flour
Amala is best enjoyed with either gbegiri, stewa or Ewedu soup.
Yerins however came to a conclusion that amala is trash.
Visit site below for full update/ photos;
https://www.mimidoris.com/2021/11/amala-is-trash-and-should-be-banned.html You need to be checked. food that older than your great grandfather you called trash. Animal. |
Investment › Be Inspired by lordskenny(op): 8:55pm On Jul 23, 2021 |
BE INSPIRED!
MTN came to Nigeria at a time when nobody wanted to invest in Nigeria, at a time when Nigerians did not have phones. Even Zenith Bank refused to loan MTN cash to operate, UBA rejected MTN's offer but today see the difference. What about Cowbell?
When they came to Nigeria, they made milk in a sachet, Peak was laughing at them - they said Cowbell was milk for the poor - but they were right! 3-million poor people could afford N10 a day for a sachet of milk. Do the mathematics - 3 million people buying milk at N10.00- that was N30million every single day. In a month they grossed N900million (almost N1billion). Even Peak had to make sachet milk in order to survive in the market.
So what have people told you? What have they said you cannot do, or you do not qualify for, or you do not have experience for? They told Cowbell, they told MTN, but today the story has changed. I have a feeling something is changing for you today! They will change their strategies just to keep in step with you. Don't listen to what people are saying or what life is showing you. YES, YOU CAN!!!
Success is not about where you graduated from, or what grade you graduated with, but what graduates out of you. Keep the spirit UP.
- Onpetu of Ijeru Kingdom, HRM Oba Sunday Oladapo Olagbami Osekun III |
Business › Partnership by lordskenny(op): 2:31pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
This is for those of you that have interest in business. If you have interest in supplying farm products to companies but you don't know how to start or you don't have the time, I am here to say you can partner with me in buying and selling of cocoa beans, cashew nuts, palm kernel, maize, well treated dried yam, etc. Kindly whatsapp me on 08167752042. All process will pass through legal documentation. |
Politics › Re: Intelligence Services Locate Sunday Igboho's Hideout - Daily Post by lordskenny(m): 2:27pm On Jul 14, 2021 |
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Business › Re: Which Business Can A 65-Year-Old Man Do With ₦3.5M Capital? by lordskenny(m): 7:14pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Sankabson: Hello Gurus in the House,
Please, what business can a Man of 65years of old do, with a total capital of 3.5M ? He’s not looking for heavy profits but he’s looking at a steady and reliable income.
City Of Residence : IBADAN.
Can Admin help push this thread. We have many older people on here, that doesn't wanna sit idle at home. There's so many Brilliant Mind on Nairaland.
Thanks In Advance. You can reach me on 08167752042 if you are interested in cocoa and other farm products business. very profitable. |
Politics › Re: Sunday Igboho: The Mistake I Made by lordskenny(m): 1:44pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
triple996: Nonsense Rubbish Op go and eat food ur write up reeks of hunger What is rubbish here? Are you supporting morons Nigerian leaders or what are you trying to say? |