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whitebeard:
and America put a limit on Iran economy, what do they call of again, they put it on Russia and north Korea to.

So u think a presido like Putin and that spoilt boy of NO presido with the United allies of IRAN and co ain't gonna come out of their shell.....Besides,i feel the economic shell isn't gonna affect the use of their weapons if occasion begs for it.All they need do are allies that share their ideology against the west

whitebeard:
wat do u mean...NK they only surpass us with nuclear capabilities that all...lol

And that's why they cannot fvck with them N.Koreans

whitebeard:
lol I know nah..nah the big cake now that's why america does not want any other nation to have it

But some countries do....IRAN is a good example.

dowjones:
But why? I'm curious to know why men marry terrible women. How does it even happen

This same thing is happening to a friend's brother. MTN collapse has made the man a little broke but the wife has tens of millions in the account won't provide one naira.

Even their kids have been in Nigeria since last year because they can't pay school fees on the UK. Which she forced the husband to take them to.

Can you share with me why you actually married her in the first place?

I second this.
Please share your pre marriage story to enable us learn.
Thanks!

cuteme88:
Thanks though for your words of advise!

jilted by a guy in my early 20s? is a No, No, No.

I never dated any Man,boy or guy all through my school years until during my service. broke up with him on my POP because the relationship isn't worth it and i was been used by him. Since then i never involve into any relationship until 3yrs after. But I really don't know where it was heading to and i ended it this year. My love story History will tell u that I was very much mature in age before i even got involve on the first relationship not to talk of the second. so now i just wanna let the thoughts of going into another relationship sleep on till I could gather myself again to start all over.

I'm the type that don't rush, I could be patient for all i care but I'm doing myself good. Right now i am seriously and crazily working on my
self-esteem and confidence. It should get to a stage whereby i can't fall for any Man that appreciate my beauty and claim he loves me. Let me first appreciate who I have become and love myself so as not to fall on anyone's trap because of a mere appreciation of who I am.
I should get to the peak of my life in which a Man or anyone will tell me that i am beautiful and my reply should be, "thank you, i know i am beautiful"

I'm not saying that i won't embark on another relationship or give it another trial. But i will not be involve till i learn to appreciate myself and build my confidence to the highest peak. If I had know what I've known now! I wouldn't have given anyone the chance to rubbish me, abuse my emotions and feelings. But thank God i get to recognise that after two failed relationship.

Some never did until after MARRIAGE!

Wow! You sound like a gentle lady but with a very mean mind.The failures of your past relationships isn't helping either coz I feel it has even made your heart more hardened.

Meanwhile, your narration up there is more complicated than I thought. No advice is even forthcoming coz I don't even know what to say.

Perhaps,folks with more experience on relationships can give some pieces of advice. I really do wish you the best of luck as you continue the search for your potential-better half.

Takia!

Humility017:
yeah...you're right I just pray these phase should pass over me fast

Amin oooo brother and me too

Humility017:
hmmm....you've got some points though...
but waiting for 2-3 years shouldn't be deemed too long...
I don't want eternity just 2-3 years I will tie the knot

Well,classification of courtship period be it too short,short,medium,long and too long,i feel is an individual thing.
Consider a 21yr old lady who has always wanted to settle down by 25yrs of age.She courts a guy with all sincerity for 2-3yrs with the belief that it will lead to the altar,only to be jilted at the last hour when she must have been 23-24yrs.

Do you see that kinda lady courting for that long again? Her trust level would have even dropped.


Bottomline is the issue of relationships nowadays is so complicated and both Males and females are responsible for those complications. so unless the parties involved are sincere with each other and also willing to make it work,the complications will even continue to multiply.





NB:The example I gave could be from the other gender as well.

Fkforyou:
Thanks for the advice, but I'm not 27 yet, my decision might even change by then..... that's why I said if I had my way

getting married at 30-35 ke....
Follow the dude's advice at your own peril.

Humility017:
yeah...me I am in my late twenties
one of the reason why I am still single...
is because of my kind of job...
I seriously praying and hoping to get a new and a better paying job.....immediately I land this...next should be marriage...
even at that many of the ladies....u have been close to and get to like...are mostly in same age bracket wit me. ..
they're so impatient and unwilling to wait...despite me being sincere...they want marriage immediately...
imagine just meeting someone in June. .and the person already telling you. ..she has set a target for herself to marry not later than this year....

Lol....Our story is kinda similar albeit I'm in mid 20s.
Just as you meet ladies you have some feelings for to be in your age bracket and eventually impatient, so do I and even meet older ones with same desired qualities

I personally will not blame the impatient ones coz I feel you will start having a rethink if she eventually waits and u later meet a younger one with almost same qualities who is also willing to be with u.It doesn't favour them in that regards,hence their decision to call it off.

That is the more reason why I try to initially get to know the real age of whoever I feel I'm beginning to have some feelings for.

SPEEDEPITOME:
A while back, I saw a guy on here that I thought I could be friends with because from his posts he stays in an area I just moved to. I sent him a PM, his reply was 'I don't do Nairaland girls'. I told him I just wanted to be friends. He asked how I got to know he stayed around that area, I told him I read his posts.
Guess what he said next? 'Quit stalking me, idiot'. I've never been more embarrassed my whole life.
so don't blame me if I don't send any guy PM on here or any platform for that matter.

Even from this your brief narration, i can feel how embarrassed you were.Although,its kinda difficult, but don't use that as a yardstick for other guys.

This guy in question just seems the immatured one.

babake79:
Yes o... THis is the daily prayer ooo! Good women are not so easy to find nowadays, although they are out there!

THe most important decision a man can make in his life is who he chooses to marry! This must be someone who can take him to the next level of greatness, unfortunately, most girls are just looking for a guy they can leech from and live a comfortable life

One day one day sha, we shall find this girl!

Another painful thing I see regularly is a good girl marrying an a$$hole

@your last statement, u can say that again and anytime I see such situation, to say it annoys me to a fault is an understatement.

Humility017:
it is sickening
such pressure will make many to be single for a long time....
because nothing turns men off than when a woman is desperate

And it is even more sickening when you feel the no of desperate singles will soon get to Increase exponentially. One might start asking how it got this bad in the first place.


Perhaps,a rough census of those that have been bold enough to air their situation will give you an idea of the number of concerned singles out there and how it might even increase as the trends and blame games continue.

cuteme88:
I think on my own perspective you are right as i can't stand for other people. I've met a lot of people older than me that are so desperate and keeps making mistake in their choice of partner. and yet when it fails they just jump into another relationship without giving a space of time to think, i will be like..... what
Back to me; i am 29yrs old, single and the more i age the less my interest in marriage..I will be clocking 29 this month and i just feel like not involving in any rlationship. just be myself,focus on my career and move on...

I want to believe you were jilted by guys in your early 20s or maybe you didn't just feel there was need to be more inclined towards settling down then. Either ways,i encourage U to be free-minded and consider building your man if u see 1 and he eventually isn't as boxed up as you are...it could work that way.

2dugged:
is it too late to say "present "?, ok let me talk my own, as a lady, once you are 23 I will advise you never to date a guy for more than 2 years without him showing signs of wanting to take the relationship to the next level, that is one of the things I have seen that is causing delayed marriages in women, and from experience I have come to realise that the longer the relationship the less it is likely to lead to the altar

I love this idea of yours.I'll even advise less than that sef if the signs of him taking the relationship to the next level is not glaring enough

oh Allah,with threads I'm coming across lately on this forum,the desire to marry early keeps increasing.

The qualities I desire are always seen in single older ladies around me while I'm been so unlucky to meet / see these same qualities in younger ones.To say i rarely meet ladies that fit the age difference I desire alone calls for concern





I desire early marriage and I'll get it in sha Allah

majekdom2:
Whilst the youths of other nations in this age bracket are advancing and making impact in their countries. We are here bothered about relationship status in 2017. Naija has a long way to go. Have we bothered to discuss a lasting solution to poverty??

Both must be on par bro,as you're aiming for the top,you should also have the smiles and support of a young fAmily that will motivate you to be focused.




Now,that's one of the objectives of this thread.

Humility017:
so guys like me not yet 30 should just read and learn....I am 28 though,
what I experienced with ladies above 25....is that they want you marry them immediately... they don't wanna even go into a relationship for a year

That's the pressure taking the toll on them bro

zanga420:
@toks, the best you would've done is open a WhatsApp or telegram group for this. There are more chance this will be derailed

seconded!


And perhaps,he could even open for 25-29 age range guys willing to get married before 30

you don't have to ask her cunningly, just be mean in asking her...,its either a yea or nay

Bottom line is guys failed then due to timely 'liver' failure

i would have rightly analysed the comments between you two; COPTIC AND NOWENUSE,but time will not permit me


but then,let me chip in this



about the Muslim agenda you falsely claimed they are trying to execute in Adamawa and Taraba states, i say the Taraba Christians are the ones with a clear agenda, if you doubt me...




the agenda is called 'THE COVENANT'. find out about it before you engage me in a discussion about agenda in old GONGOLA state, until then,i say i do love your knowledge of demographics but then, you can't feed me shit about TARABA STATE!

Nowenuse:
I am from Plateau state, but widely travelled, widely read and knowledgeble about Nigerian demographics.

Yes, you and i would probably meet more christians from these places because we are christians whereas a muslim may likely meet more muslims from these places.

You know, we northern and middlebelt christians did not wise up politically early enough, compared to the hausa- fulanis and muslim groups whom their fathers chartered the political destiny of Nigeria from the begininng.

Our Christianity and christian doctrines was also a major setback to us politically, because we were meant to believe that politics is for the sinners and evil people and we christians are not people of this world, 'gidan mu a sama ne' whereas Hausa-fulanis and muslims were always taught that it is a taboo for arna to rule over muslims no matter what.

Another problem with northern and middlebelt christians was the emirate/indirect system of rulership where our people were forced under emirate rule by the british in connivance with hausa-fulanis.

Many of we Plateau groups were forced under Bauchi emirate, but luckily for us, our fathers heavily rejected this and we were removed. Some southern kaduna and Nasarawa peeps also rejected it but most did not and they were just getting their chiefdoms a decade or two ago.
So many/most non-muslim tribes in Borno, Adamawa, Taraba, Gombe, Niger and Kebbi states have not gotten their independence from these emirates till date.
Now, tell me why such people will not be heavily dominated when they are ruled traditionally by their opressors!

You can see that we have a lot of work to do!

Your second statement caught my fancy.exactly the point about TARABA state if u don't mix with enough people from both sides.

God bless this my Banbuka babe and Jenjo mamas and baes back then, them sabi treat visitors ehhhhnnnnn!

Nowenuse:
This is absurd! Mumuye people are not as illiterate as they were 30 years ago, all the mumuye youths i come across in recent years were educated.

Why did the godfatherism of TY Danjuma not make christians to dominate the Senatorship and house of represenatives of Taraba at the FG level? Rubbish!

'come across,just as COPTIC used the few people he met in the barracks to judge.....go check out their domains and see the level of their literacy compared to other dominant tribes in the state

I don't know about 30yrs ago but this present age!





and lest I forget,next time,u don't have to use vulgar words before you can make your points/opinions heard.

coptic:
I initially tried to indulge the guy, as he said to have lived in Taraba. Then I sensed that he is sympathetic to the Muslim cause, so I stayed away.

perhaps,what you sensed was wrong.

I lived in a Muslim dominated neighbourhood but hustled in Christian dominated neighbourhoods.

Nowenuse:
Analyse what?

Oya come out let us analyse!

The only clearly muslim dominated LGAs in Taraba are Ibi, Gassol, Jalingo, Bali.
Jalingo n Gassol are dominated by fulani muslims, Bali dominated by Jibu muslims and Ibi by Hausa/Jukun muslims.

I know many of you liars will claim Ardo-kola, Gashaka and Sardauna as muslim dominated, but that is senseless. These 3 LGAs are at most 50/50 religiously.

Fulanis may have the largest ethnicity in Ardo kola, but the combination of Jukun Kona, Mumuye, Yandang and other christian tribes equal them or even outnumber them.
Mambilla people remain the majority tribe in Sardauna and they are dominantly christians.


Now, let us count the clearly christian dominated LGAs.

Yorro, Zing, Lau, Karim lamido, Wukari, Takum, Donga, Ussa, Kurmi.

Wukari, Donga, Takum and Ussa are overwhemingly dominated by Jukun, Kuteb and Tiv christians.

Yorro, Zing and parts of Lau heavily dominated by Mumuye christians.

Kurmi is dominated by Tigon, Ndola and other smaller christian tribes.
Fulanis may be the single largest ethnic group in Lau but they cannot match the combination of Kona, Mumuye, Yandang and other christian groups.

In Karim lamido, Wurukun are the single largest ethnic group and are dominantly muslims with a significant christian minority, but by the time you include the Jenjo, Karimjo and other dozens of smaller ethnic groups there, the christians clearly outnumber the muslims.

This is my analysis! Bring yours let us see.

Hello brother!
I honestly want you to read through this(my subsequent posts on this thread)with a wide open mind and utmost objectivity.
but before I start,consider these factors>>>>>>>>>

●The traditional ruler in northern communities normally come from the dominating tribe
●The religion of that ruler is also the dominating religion of that dominant tribe.
●The tribes in which the names of the town are given
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Having said that,enjoy the low-down of my analysis


MUSLIM DOMINATED LGAs IN TARABA STATE

■Jalingo: due to the above laid factors.it is indigenously dominated by fulanis (almost all Muslims )although fractions of kona and mumuye can be found
■Gassol:same as above
■Bali:Dominated by the jibu Muslims and fulanis (considering the name of the LGA headquarters which is garba chede;fulfulde name)
■Ibi:Dominated by the Hausa and Jukun Muslims
■Sadauna:Haba mallam! How can you say the ratio here is 50/50 when the indigenous tribes are Mambilla,Fulani,Kaka,Panso and Kambu.The population of the last 3 tribes are isn't that much owing to the fact that they were remnants who stayed behind when Nigeria claimed the Mambilla plateau since they are originally from Cameroon(read up on that since u claimed to read wide,which I love though).The Mambillas are majorly Muslims and don't even give me that poo u posted up there,considering the factors earlier stated up.
■Gashaka:Also dominated by jibu Muslims and logically some few fulanis and Mambilla coz it borders Bali and Sadauna LGAs
■Ardo kola:Dominated by Fulanis as u have stated up but u should also know that the kona,mumuyes and yandang you mentioned also have few Muslims among them.Now tell me how their christian combination will usurp that of the muslims
■Zing:Mumuyes are majorly muslims and they effing dominate this area with insignificant Fulanis. this is evident by their emir (who I heard lost his life in the last HAJJ stampede)
■Lau:Dominated by Muslim fulanis and mumuye with some minor Christian-dominating tribes whose names I can't remember but they bear names like Banga,Madanga,Luna etc (you may knw the tribe with those names)

Now,CHRISTIAN DOMINANT LGAS
■Kurmi:overwhelmingly dominated by tigon, Ndola,Ichen etc ■Donga, ■Takum:Dominated by Jukun and Tiv
■Wukari:The Jukun headquarters headed by the AKUKA (consider the above factors).
■Yorro:the only LGA with large Christian mumuyes
■Ussa:Dominated by the kutebs
■Karim-lamido:this LGA is fucking too heterogeneous with over 15 (if not far more) very insignificant minority tribes. I concur with your analysis in this area but the ratio here is not overwhelming as you claimed,considering we have significant Muslim Jenjos,Karimjo,Gobu, Lo,Banbuka etc now added to the wurkum.
>>>>>>Now,compare this to yours with a clear mind brother


YOU CAN MISINFORM OTHER PEOPLE HERE BUT NOT MEEEEEE,atleast not after I''ve lived and mixed with them all

Nowenuse:
Analyse what?

Oya come out let us analyse!

The only clearly muslim dominated LGAs in Taraba are Ibi, Gassol, Jalingo, Bali.
Jalingo n Gassol are dominated by fulani muslims, Bali dominated by Jibu muslims and Ibi by Hausa/Jukun muslims.

I know many of you liars will claim Ardo-kola, Gashaka and Sardauna as muslim dominated, but that is senseless. These 3 LGAs are at most 50/50 religiously.

Fulanis may have the largest ethnicity in Ardo kola, but the combination of Jukun Kona, Mumuye, Yandang and other christian tribes equal them or even outnumber them.
Mambilla people remain the majority tribe in Sardauna and they are dominantly christians.


Now, let us count the clearly christian dominated LGAs.

Yorro, Zing, Lau, Karim lamido, Wukari, Takum, Donga, Ussa, Kurmi.

Wukari, Donga, Takum and Ussa are overwhemingly dominated by Jukun, Kuteb and Tiv christians.

Yorro, Zing and parts of Lau heavily dominated by Mumuye christians.

Kurmi is dominated by Tigon, Ndola and other smaller christian tribes.
Fulanis may be the single largest ethnic group in Lau but they cannot match the combination of Kona, Mumuye, Yandang and other christian groups.

In Karim lamido, Wurukun are the single largest ethnic group and are dominantly muslims with a significant christian minority, but by the time you include the Jenjo, Karimjo and other dozens of smaller ethnic groups there, the christians clearly outnumber the muslims.

This is my analysis! Bring yours let us see.

Hello brother!
I honestly want you to read through this(my subsequent posts on this thread)with a wide open mind and utmost objectivity.
but before I start,consider these factors>>>>>>>>>

●The traditional ruler in northern communities normally come from the dominating tribe
●The religion of that ruler is also the dominating religion of that dominant tribe.
●The tribes in which the names of the town are given
--------------------------------------------------------------
Having said that,enjoy the low-down of my analysis


MUSLIM DOMINATED LGAs IN TARABA STATE

■Jalingo: due to the above laid factors.it is indigenously dominated by fulanis (almost all Muslims )although fractions of kona and mumuye can be found
■Gassol:same as above
■Bali:Dominated by the jibu Muslims and fulanis (considering the name of the LGA headquarters which is garba chede;fulfulde name)
■Ibi:Dominated by the Hausa and Jukun Muslims
■Sadauna:Haba mallam! How can you say the ratio here is 50/50 when the indigenous tribes are Mambilla,Fulani,Kaka,Panso and Kambu.The population of the last 3 tribes are isn't that much owing to the fact that they were remnants who stayed behind when Nigeria claimed the Mambilla plateau since they are originally from Cameroon(read up on that since u claimed to read wide,which I love though).The Mambillas are majorly Muslims and don't even give me that poo u posted up there,considering the factors earlier stated up.
■Gashaka:Also dominated by jibu Muslims and logically some few fulanis and Mambilla coz it borders Bali and Sadauna LGAs
■Ardo kola:Dominated by Fulanis as u have stated up but u should also know that the kona,mumuyes and yandang you mentioned also have few Muslims among them.Now tell me how their christian combination will usurp that of the muslims
■Zing:Mumuyes are majorly muslims and they effing dominate this area with insignificant Fulanis. this is evident by their emir (who I heard lost his life in the last HAJJ stampede)
■Lau:Dominated by Muslim fulanis and mumuye with some minor Christian-dominating tribes whose names I can't remember but they bear names like Banga,Madanga,Luna etc (you may knw the tribe with those names)

Now,CHRISTIAN DOMINANT LGAS
■Kurmi:overwhelmingly dominated by tigon, Ndola,Ichen etc ■Donga, ■Takum:Dominated by Jukun and Tiv
■Wukari:The Jukun headquarters headed by the AKUKA (consider the above factors).
■Yorro:the only LGA with large Christian mumuyes
■Ussa:Dominated by the kutebs
■Karim-lamido:this LGA is fucking too heterogeneous with over 15 (if not far more) very insignificant minority tribes. I concur with your analysis in this area but the ratio here is not overwhelming as you claimed,considering we have significant Muslim Jenjos,Karimjo,Gobu, Lo,Banbuka etc now added to the wurkum.
>>>>>>Now,compare this to yours with a clear mind brother


YOU CAN MISINFORM OTHER PEOPLE HERE BUT NOT MEEEEEE,atleast not after I''ve lived and mixed with them all.

Nowenuse:
Kona is a jukun subtribe which sometimes identifies as a distinct identity, likewise Ichen, Wapan, Kpanzu, Jibu (Jibawa) and others.

Jibawa are also Jukun Jibu and they were highly islamized, so about half of them are muslims. They are the dominant tribe in Bali & Gashaka LGAs.

genieluv may not be wrong with her 35% though, it's possible, considering the increased immigration of muslims into the state over the years, but i think muslims should be about 30% in the state.

Young man! I had to make sure I'm not being disturbed to point out the many errors and sentiments in your analysis,hence the reason for responding to this your mention his late.

You earlier claimed genieluv assumption of 35% was wrong and you even brought it down to 30%,which is not only laughable but also ridiculous.

it should be noted that even your wrong analysis above will not amount to 30% or even 35% if u want to be objective enough.




>>>>>>>coming next is my analysis■■■■■■■■■■■■■■

genieluv:
Thanks i try my little best here.



Lol, Gongola n Kaduna are very far away from each other. How could they be in Kaduna? Well, that means, they would have to be in Gombe, Bauchi & Plateau, cks these states seperate Gongola & Kaduna.

**** Well, let me help you a bit. These are the major ethnic groups in Southern kaduna. >>>>> Kataf (atyap), Jaba, Adara, Kaje, Gbagyi, Chawai, Kurama, Kagoro, Ninkyob, Kagoma. There are many others buh they are quite smaller in population

thanks a bunch!!!
I've heard about some of them but never knew they were indigenous to kaduna,having lived with just some few jaba folks gbagyi albeit the ones in Niger state.

genieluv:
Nah, they are more than 25%, they could even be more than 30%, maybe 35%.
*** Half of Jukun jibu people (Jibawa) are muslims and they are the majority in Bali LGA. Many Jukun kona and Chamba people are also muslims.

1st of all,i do think kona is still a dialect of jukun language and not a different tribe entirely.I don't really know about the jibawas though.




And your perceived 35% muslims of total taraba population is a joke for the ages!

genieluv:
Muslims majority in Taraba state? You are dead wrong.
You n i know it is impossible for muslims to be politically dominated in a place where they are the majority.
***Christians are the ones easily dominated politically because we don't see politics as a do or die affair like you muslims do.
The first n 2nd civilian governors of Taraba were not jukun, so, how do they run show in Taraba?

I say you're the one that's dead wrong here.

if we're to analyse the religions of the major tribes in each LGA,i say the Muslims will come out on top.

The issue of Christians dominating the politics in the state is owed of the godfatherism of TY DANJUMA and the very high illiteracy level of mumuye and some other muslim-dominating minorities.

genieluv:
Holly Chamba is not a tribe in Kaduna but Taraba n Adamawa.

I knew they are predominantly found in old gongola but I thought a fraction of them live in kaduna too...may be I'm wrong afterall,I'm not too familiar with many indigenous kaduna tribes except some few

coptic:
I don't know so much about Taraba, but the one thing I know for sure is that Christians are the majority there, by far even.

Before I argue further with you,let me ask you these questions:
For how long did you stay in Taraba state?

What part or LGA did you stay?