Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,156,696 members, 7,831,171 topics. Date: Friday, 17 May 2024 at 02:46 PM |
Nairaland Forum / LovingJehovah's Profile / LovingJehovah's Posts
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (of 14 pages)
Religion / Re: Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Christmas? by lovingJehovah: 11:53pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Oh, cool! We learn every day. You can never know too much about the word of God. Sometimes you hear a verse in the Bible and you wonder how come you didn't see it when you just read that chapter of the Bible. Jehovah's witnesses are Bible students. We are always digging deep into the Bible for the spiritual gems. It really does not matter the religion of anyone but once you quit studying the Bible, you lose the spiritual finesse that you once had. This is why we bring the good news to everyone's doorstep to encourage them to build a lasting relationship with Jehovah. And love for Jehovah and our neighbour is our primary motive for reaching out to people. sexybbstar: 1 Like 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 11:43pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
The Hebrews world wide do not believe in Jesus and yet ordinary u living in Africa now know the Bible more than the owners of Christianity/Judaism The above is an excerpt from your comment and I just copied and pasted. What sense were you trying to make? I am offering you the best free edification. The books of the Bible are called scriptures. No true Hebrew as you claim to be would imply to knowing the Bible more than an African. And what gave you the impression that I live in Africa? The word 'Bible' is not mentioned in the scriptures. What we have are 66 books called the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. Condemning the Bible entirely means condemning Judaism and condemning your own acclaimed root. Judaism does not approve of the teachings of Jesus hence they do not accept the Greek scriptures. As a self-acclaimed Hebrew, you should be acquainted with the word TORAH or Pentateuch, not 'The International Jew'. Let me cite a Hebrew verse to your delight Deuteronomy 30:19 I take the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you today that I have put life and death before you, the blessing and the curse; and you must choose life so that you may live, you and your descendants, @PrecisionFx It is not too late to rethink yet. Choose life! PrecisionFx: |
Religion / Re: Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Christmas? by lovingJehovah: 11:04pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Oh cool! That was very thoughtful. Our website is updated and one can find very resourceful materials on it. Our awake also covers topics relating to current affairs, science, and nature. I hope that your friend finds satisfying answers to her questions. sexybbstar: |
Religion / Re: Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Christmas? by lovingJehovah: 9:12pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
We do appreciate your positive comment. It is hard to come by. sexybbstar: |
Religion / Are Jehovah’s Witnesses Tolerant Of Other Religions? by lovingJehovah: 7:20pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
We follow the Bible’s advice to “respect everyone”—regardless of their religious beliefs. (1 Peter 2:17, Today’s English Version) For example, in some countries there are hundreds of thousands of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Even so, we don’t try to pressure politicians or lawmakers into restricting or banning the work of other religious groups. Nor do we campaign to have laws passed that would impose our moral and religious convictions on the general community. Instead, we extend to others the same tolerance that we appreciate receiving from them.—Matthew 7:12. |
Religion / Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Celebrate Christmas? by lovingJehovah: 6:43pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
Myth: The reason why Jehovah’s Witnesses do not celebrate Christmas is that they do not believe in Jesus. Fact: We are Christians. We believe that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ.—Acts 4:12. Myth: You divide families by teaching members not to celebrate Christmas. Fact: We care deeply about families, and we use the Bible to help build stronger families. Myth: You miss out on the “Christmas spirit” of generosity, peace on earth, and goodwill toward men. Fact: We strive to be generous and peaceable every day. (Proverbs 11:25; Romans 12:18) For example, the way we conduct our meetings and preach is in harmony with Jesus’ instruction: “You received free, give free.” (Matthew 10:8 ) In addition, we direct attention to God’s Kingdom as the true hope for peace on earth.—Matthew 10:7. Why don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses celebrate Christmas? Jesus commanded that we commemorate his death, not his birth.—Luke 22:19, 20. Jesus’ apostles and early disciples did not celebrate Christmas. The New Catholic Encyclopedia says that “the Nativity feast was instituted no earlier than 243 [C.E.],” more than a century after the last of the apostles died. There is no proof that Jesus was born on December 25; his birth date is not recorded in the Bible. We believe that Christmas is not approved by God because it is rooted in pagan customs and rites.—2 Corinthians 6:17. Why make Christmas an issue? Many still celebrate Christmas despite knowing about its pagan roots and lack of support from the Bible. Such persons could ask: Why should Christians take such an unpopular stance? Why make it an issue? The Bible encourages us to think for ourselves, to use our “power of reason.” (Romans 12:1, 2) It teaches us to value the truth. (John 4:23, 24) So while we are interested in how others view us, we adhere to Bible principles even if it means that we become unpopular. Although we choose not to celebrate Christmas ourselves, we respect each person’s right to decide for himself in this matter. We do not interfere in the Christmas celebrations of others. |
Religion / The Giving That Pleases God by lovingJehovah: 12:02pm On Dec 04, 2017 |
JESUS and his disciples were enjoying a good meal in Bethany with a number of close friends, including Mary, Martha, and the recently resurrected Lazarus. When Mary took a pound of expensive oil and greased the feet of Jesus, Judas Iscariot became indignant and spoke up. “Why was it this perfumed oil was not sold for three hundred denarii [equivalent to about a year’s wage] and given to the poor?” he protested. Others quickly brought up similar complaints.—John 12:1-6; Mark 14:3-5. However, Jesus answered: “Let her alone. . . . For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want to you can always do them good, but me you do not have always.” (Mark 14:6-9) The Jewish religious leaders taught that almsgiving not only was virtuous but could even atone for sins. Jesus, on the other hand, made it clear that giving that pleases God is not limited to making charitable gifts to the poor. A brief look at the way giving was done in the early Christian congregation will highlight some practical ways in which we can show our concern and thus please God with our giving. It will also identify a unique kind of giving that does the most good. “Give Gifts of Mercy” On several occasions Jesus encouraged his disciples to “give gifts of mercy,” or as other translations render the phrase, to “give in charity” or “give to charity.” (Luke 12:33; New English Bible; A Translation in the Language of the People, by Charles B. Williams) Jesus cautioned, however, against showy displays that were intended merely to glorify the giver rather than God. “When you go making gifts of mercy,” he said, “do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men.” (Matthew 6:1-4) Applying this admonition, early Christians avoided the showy spectacles of the pious religious elite in their day and chose to help those in need by rendering personal services or making private gifts. At Luke 8:1-3, for example, we are told that Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Susanna, and others used “their belongings” in quietly ministering to Jesus and his apostles. Although these men were not destitute, they had abandoned their means of livelihood to focus their efforts exclusively on the ministry. (Matthew 4:18-22; Luke 5:27, 28) By helping them to complete their God-given assignment, these women, in effect, glorified God. And God showed his appreciation by preserving a record of their merciful generosity in the Bible for all future generations to read.—Proverbs 19:17; Hebrews 6:10. Dorcas was another kind woman who “abounded in good deeds and gifts of mercy.” She made clothes for needy widows in her seaside town of Joppa. Whether she paid for all the materials herself or simply donated her labor, we do not know. Nonetheless, her good work endeared her to those she could help, as well as to God, who mercifully blessed her goodwill.—Acts 9:36-41. The Right Motive Is Vital What motivated these individuals to give? It was more than a compassionate impulse triggered by an emotional appeal for help. They felt a personal moral responsibility to do what they could each day to help those experiencing poverty, adversity, illness, or other difficulties. (Proverbs 3:27, 28; James 2:15, 16) This is the kind of giving that pleases God. It is primarily motivated by a deep love for God and a desire to imitate his merciful and generous personality.—Matthew 5:44, 45; James 1:17. The apostle John highlighted this vital aspect of giving when he asked: “Whoever has this world’s means for supporting life and beholds his brother having need and yet shuts the door of his tender compassions upon him, in what way does the love of God remain in him?” (1 John 3:17) The answer is obvious. The love of God moves people to be charitable. God appreciates and rewards those who, like him, show a generous spirit. (Proverbs 22:9; 2 Corinthians 9:6-11) Do we see this kind of generosity today? Consider what recently happened in a congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. An elderly Christian woman’s home was in serious need of repair. She was living alone and had no family to help her. Through the years, her home had always been open to hold Christian meetings, and often she would share a meal with anyone who would accept her invitation. (Acts 16:14, 15, 40) Seeing her plight, members of the congregation rallied to help. Some contributed funds, others their labor. Over a few weekends, volunteers put on a new roof, installed a new bathroom, plastered and painted the whole first floor, and installed new cabinets in the kitchen. Their giving not only met the woman’s need but also drew the congregation closer together and impressed the neighbors as an example of true Christian giving. There are so many ways we can personally assist others. Can we spend time with a fatherless boy or girl? Can we do some shopping or sewing for an elderly widow we know? Can we cook a meal or help cover an expense for someone of limited means? We do not have to be wealthy to help out. The apostle Paul wrote: “If the readiness is there first, it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have.” (2 Corinthians 8:12) Is such personal, direct giving, though, the only kind of giving that God will bless? No. What About Organized Relief? Sometimes personal efforts are not enough. In fact, Jesus and his apostles kept a common fund for the poor, and they accepted contributions from caring people they met in their work. (John 12:6; 13:29) Likewise, first-century congregations took up collections when the need arose and organized relief on a larger scale.—Acts 2:44, 45; 6:1-3; 1 Timothy 5:9, 10. One such occasion arose about 55 C.E. The congregations in Judea had fallen into poverty, perhaps as a result of the great famine that had recently taken place. (Acts 11:27-30) The apostle Paul, always concerned about the poor, enlisted the help of congregations as far away as Macedonia. He personally organized a collection and used approved men to deliver it. (1 Corinthians 16:1-4; Galatians 2:10) Neither he nor any of the others involved took payment for their service.—2 Corinthians 8:20, 21. Jehovah’s Witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes. During the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in Houston, Texas, U.S.A. In all, 723 homes of Witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly. A disaster relief committee made up of qualified Christian elders was immediately formed to assess individual needs and to allocate relief funds to help the local Witnesses to cope with the situation and repair their homes. Willing volunteers from neighboring congregations performed all the work. One Witness was so appreciative of the help that when she received payment from her insurance company to cover the repairs to her house, she immediately donated the money to the relief fund so that it could help others in need. When it comes to organized charity, though, we need to be cautious as we evaluate the many appeals we receive. Some charities have high administrative or fund-raising costs, leaving only a small portion of the collected money for the intended purpose. Proverbs 14:15 says: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” So it is the course of wisdom to examine the facts carefully. Giving That Does the Most Good There is a kind of giving that is even more important than charity. Jesus alluded to this when a rich young ruler asked what he had to do to get everlasting life. Jesus told him: “Go sell your belongings and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven, and come be my follower.” (Matthew 19:16-22) Notice that Jesus did not just say, ‘Give to the poor and you will get life.’ Instead, he added, “Come be my follower.” In other words, as commendable and beneficial as charitable acts are, Christian discipleship involves more. Jesus’ chief interest was in helping others spiritually. Shortly before his death, he told Pilate: “For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth.” (John 18:37) While he took the lead in helping the poor, healing the sick, and feeding the hungry, Jesus primarily trained his disciples to preach. (Matthew 10:7, In fact, among his final instructions to them was the command: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations.”—Matthew 28:19, 20. Of course, preaching will not solve all the world’s problems. Yet, sharing the good news of God’s Kingdom with all sorts of people glorifies God because preaching accomplishes God’s will and opens the way to everlasting benefits for those who accept the divine message. (John 17:3; 1 Timothy 2:3, 4) Why not listen to what Jehovah’s Witnesses have to say the next time they call? They come with a spiritual gift. And they know that this is the best way that they can give to you. |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 11:37am On Dec 04, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:Oh. good! So, be precise about names that you mention. Are you referring to Americans or Europeans? I am sure that your level of awareness stretches beyond that. PrecisionFx:Well, there are some points that you need to gather some knowledge about. Judaism has no business with the Bible. The Jews believe in the law of Moses while Christians believe in the law of Christ. Christians believe in the scriptureS that make up what you know as the Bible. Figure that out! If Jesus was a white man, were the Hebrews black? If your savior is yet to be born, from what tribe (or race) will he come? Have you heard of the Qumran settler who perished while waiting for their Messiah who had come and gone? PrecisionFx:If that is what you believe, so be it. PrecisionFx:White men! What race are you? Or what race is the "we"? |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 4:35am On Dec 04, 2017 |
solite3:John 8:59 Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been". That was the actual statement that he made but they BLASPHEMED and tried to stone him. Have you read that account? solite3:The trinity is a pagan doctrine established by the pagan Constantine in the council of Nicaea in 325. That was about 200 years after the death of the last apostle of Jesus. At that Time the scriptures were already completed. Constantine was not a Christian but a persecutor and killer of true Christians. Matthew 10:23 Jesus asked Christians to flee when being persecuted. Constantine invited pagans and Baal worshipers to a council and they birthed the Trinity doctrine. Have you ever wondered why Jesus or the apostles never taught that? Neither the Hebrew nor Greek scriptures ever taught the Trinity rather, 1 Corinthians 8:6 says, " there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him." Till date the Trinitarians cannot reel around that verse. Matthew 24:36 Jesus said that he does not know the date this system will end and only his father knows. Can you be equal with someone who knows more that you? Two captains do not man a ship. Jehovah is a God of order and his arrangement has always been in the line of 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. solite3:My point is that your definition stems from an ancient Babylonian temple dedicated to Ba'al. You should use the Bible to synchronize your thought. You are not talking with babies. Streamline your thought to fit the Scriptures. The word of God cannot adjust for you. solite3:2 Corinthians 5:16 So from now on we know no man from a fleshly viewpoint. Even if we once knew Christ according to the flesh, we certainly no longer know him in that way. The Bible never fails to prove its strength as the word of God. Read above solite3:In kindergarten, kids are taught that Lions have cubs. And those cubs are referred to as Lion cubs or cubs of a Lion. Jesus is referred to as the son of God or God's son. This is the Bible's rendition. Is it not dishonoring for you to want to enforce the God-the-son concept? Are you wiser than apostle Peter or apostle Paul. Take Paul for example who tasted both opposing religious views. Are you better in age or in wisdom? solite3:Can you eat your cake and have it? It is logical for someone to be greater yet equal? what breed of logic or reasoning is that? solite3: You forever remain your father's son. You can never be your father and your father can never be you. Two distinct persons. You can never be referred to as your father's equal. Do you even know the meaning of father? or son? solite3:Ephesians 1:22 He also subjected all things under his feet and made him head over all things with regard to the congregation. Can you be appointed by your equal? Can your equal make you the head? John 5:30 I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all,[/b] who is over all and through all and in all.. @solite3 Judge for yourself. |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 3:54am On Dec 04, 2017 |
It took you an entire Calendar year to respond. I am not going on a freeway ride in your Limousine. Thank you for your time. olamkas: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 3:46am On Dec 04, 2017 |
I see where you are coming from but I am only going to focus on one point. Everything u believe about the Bible was written by those same American people. America was discovered in 1492. At that time the Bible was already famous in Latin and German (Note: Latin and German, and not Greek or Hebrew). Before America became a country, Tyndale had begun arrangements for his English translation of the Bible and Wycliffe's version was completed, though unpopular and not widely published. Before the Americans had access to the Bible, the scriptures were already popular to the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Arabs , Caucasians, in Asia Minor, India etc. I know that you have been weltered into believing that Christianity is a white man's religion. Christianity started in Asia and Africa. Jesus also lived in Africa. I have met many people with different religious views and I must be real to you. You will have a hard time getting along with any religious group apart from callow minds who are passionate about something that they cannot prove. I beg to leave you at this juncture. It has been interesting hearing your views. You may choose to stick to your belief. It is you fundamental right and I cannot take that away from you. PrecisionFx: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 8:25pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Let me not go into further questionings for now, but for all that you wrote I can see that you believe it and you have a passion to defend it as the truth. Why, then, would you jump on a Christian thread to shade or question our own Bible? There is your faith and you defiantly polish it to look heavenly, but what would make you question the Bible that says that God begot Jesus? harbjar: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 6:03pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
You asked a shady question but I noticed your biased response when the table was turned. You have a passion for Mohammed and you want to denigrate Jesus as being our Lord. This topic is about Christianity and if you, with an opposing view would want to participate, you should at least flag your presence as a non-believer before antagonizing. I have no problem with continuing with you though. The holy scriptures were written hundreds of years before the birth of Mohammed. It means that before Mohammed was born or chosen as a prophet according to your belief, he knew about God and probably had a copy of the scriptures particularly the one given to Musa. Let me streamline it to your own understanding. Now, we do not believe that Jesus was given a book as you believe that angel Jibril gave to all the prophets. His words were written down by his apostles. Here are the questions: 1. What book of the law or of the prophets did Mohammed read prior to receiving the Koran? 2. Whose descendant was he and who are his ancestors? 3. What language did his ancestors speak? 4. In what language was the law given to Musa and the rest of the prophets written? 5. What language did Muhammad speak? 6. What language does angel Jibril speak? 7. Why was the Koran in Arabic and what is the significance of Arabic in Islam? 8. Did any other prophet sleep with an 8 year old or encourage pedophilia? 9. If the descendants of Abraham were Israelites, how did Muhammad find himself in Saudi Arabia? 10. Is there a book containing the records of the other prophets. harbjar: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 4:36pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
Well, your analysis is embryonic. Moreover, let me reverse the question, what is special about Mohammed? harbjar: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 4:23pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
If you look the word up in your dictionary, you will see the actual meaning in this context. Beget also means to create, cause or bring about. What dictionary do you use? harbjar: |
Religion / Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Practice Tithing? by lovingJehovah: 4:17pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
No, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not practice tithing; our work is financed by anonymous voluntary donations. What is a tithe, and why don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses practice tithing? The commandment to tithe, or contribute a tenth of one’s belongings, was part of the Law given to the ancient nation of Israel. However, the Bible makes it clear that this Law—including the “commandment to collect tithes”—does not apply to Christians.—Hebrews 7:5, 18; Colossians 2:13, 14. Rather than giving required tithes and offerings, Jehovah’s Witnesses imitate the early Christians and support their ministry in two ways: by performing their personal ministerial work without pay and by making voluntary donations. We thus follow the Bible’s direction to Christians: “Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.”—2 Corinthians 9:7. |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 2:06pm On Dec 03, 2017 |
If an American who was born in the 19th century holds the key to your culture, then you need to watch the last episode of the popular TV series, Lost. I am sure that you feel ashamed of yourself now. This is the 20th century book that you put your trust in and place above the Bible? You sounded pretty smarter earlier than this botched comment, for real. Anyway, let me not judge. I would rather advise you to reconsider your thoughts and ponder over the details surrounding your belief. It would do your some good. The only group that can accommodate your thought is Atheism and you will have serious issues as soon as you begin to go in-depth with them. Before you condemn Christians again, I want you to always remember that your thoughts are Martian and cannot be accepted by any tribe or race. You are not anything close to people beyond the shores of Nigeria. Your cultures and traditions are nothing relating to the Hebrews. And for the record, your homographic countdown is a cheap brainwashing used to ply on gullible minds. What is the meaning of Hebrews-Heeboes- Eboes-Igbos, and recently- Ibo? Grab a Bible and save your own soul, bro. PrecisionFx: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 4:27am On Dec 03, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:What book? You have not mentioned any book to me. There are a plethora of book online. Refer me to the exact one that I should read, or specifically the one that has the truth about God. Then again you should care because you cared to condemned the book that I believe in. PrecisionFx:Well, this was your previous answer in bold and I thought you could have thought it out because you contradicted yourself. The Jews who live in Israel today are Europeans, Caucasian and have no form of connection with Bible Hebrews. You made mention of the Bible, so I was surprised that you referenced and believe in the Jews of the same Bible that you condemned. Do think that you could address that question better now using your Monday hammer n Chisel? PrecisionFx:Sure! If the Igbos came from the Israel of old, When did the name change from Israel to Igbo? What is the origin of the Igbo language? Do you consider the Igbos a tribe or a race? If you insinuate that the Israelis are Caucasians, were your ancestors the former occupants of the ancient Israel? If you truly are Igbo, would you accept that the truth about your history is stored in Cambridge University in England? Is it a proud thing to say in public? Are you from Israel or England? Your tribe is not older that Egypt for example and archaeologists have been able to dig out relics of the past kingdoms that prove the religion and history of the Egyptians. To the contrary, are you encouraging me to visit England to read books written by CAUCASIANS that you refute any affiliation with to learn about your affiliation with ANCIENT Israel? Malarkey at its finest! |
Religion / Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by lovingJehovah: 3:36am On Dec 03, 2017 |
As a man of knowledge I expected you to answer the question, but I am surprised that my question only rebounded. Well, as a man of lesser knowledge, I will answer it myself using the Bible. Yes, I read the scriptures and it contains the meaning of oneness in the sense of purpose and quality. When God said that man and his wife becomes one flesh, it further explains it in Ephesians 5:25; 28-29. 5:25 'Husbands, continue loving your wives, just as the Christ also loved the congregation and gave himself up for it; 28 In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. A man who loves his wife loves himself, 29 for no man ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cherishes it, just as the Christ does the congregation. You can see that love is the bond that connects the husband to his wife and also connects the Christ to us, members of the congregation. The fact that the Bible says that they are one flesh does not mean that they are co-equal. Can a wife be called the husband or coequal because she is joined as one to her husband?, No! Verse 22 of that chapter encourages wives to be subjects to their husbands. Not a duality. I am sure that you will not refute the idea that the husband should likewise be subject to Christ according to the Bible. Nevertheless, If you accept that a wife should be in subjection to her husband and not coequal when the Bible says that they are one flesh, and you accept that the husband should be in subjection to the Christ and not coequal, why would you have a problem following that line of belief in 1 Corinthians 11:3? But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. How can I break this down to your understanding? If a wife cannot be called husband, and husband cannot be called Christ, why is the formula altered in Christ to God when they all appear in the same sentence? The point is that trinity is a pagan heresy incorporated into Christianity by Constantine in the council of Nicaea held in 325. In all your failed attempts to prove Jesus as the ALmighty God, remember that it is only a duality, and the holy spirit has not appeared in the picture yet you are having a very hard time fighting the Bible verses so far. Bro, let me rephrase this verse in 1 Corinthians 11:3. But Do you realize the above? brocab: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 5:26pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
You are digressing without giving me quantifiable answers. I do not live in 042 and I am Igbo. Tell me the book that you recommend to read. Are the Jews that you are referring to the ones currently in Israel or the ones that were recorded in the Bible? When did the Igbo tribe come to be? PrecisionFx: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 4:59pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
solite3:Cool. So when you quoted Jesus saying that he and his father are one, were you referring to the man or the spirit? solite3:You just made a caricature of yourself. Bro, stop making yourself a laughingstock. solite3:Read what you wrote in the emboldened above solite3:Hahahaha Ludicrous! You must be so exhausted by now. The trinity is like a lie told upon a lie that needs another lie to save the first lie that was told. You listed more proofs to expose your heresy. Did you actually read before posting stuff? Firstborn was stated in the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. solite3:Fallacious! A heap of heresy. In all cases as you have presented, if it is rank, then someone gave him the rank; if it is exalted one, someone exalted that one. In all the firstborns that you mentioned, was any one of them compared to God as equal? solite3:Read the emboldened above. solite3:Positive solite3:Son of God; Jesus; The Christ. solite3:No, a cub. solite3:John 14:28 The father is greater than I. John 14 was spoken after John 10. John 5:30 I do nothing of my own initiative, but the will of the father. Luke 22:42 Let not MY WILL be done but YOURS. |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 3:58pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
what do you want me to explain again? I want you to explain where they go for real. David, Moses, Daniel etc all died before Jesus came yet Jesus said in John 3:13 that he did not see them there. So, tell me where really they went since Jesus who you claim as your God said that he did not see them from where he came. Where does God reside God resides in heaven. But let me ask you, at the time Jesus was on earth where did your God reside? From these verses it is clear after death man return back to God for Judgment So everyone who dies go to heaven? I mean, literally go into heaven to God? solite3: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 3:32pm On Dec 02, 2017 |
Wow! I am surprised at you. Why did you deny that I am Igbo when you don't even know me in person? E nwere ihe eji ama onye Igbo na Nairaland? Open up and recommend a book that I should read. From what book was the file that you inserted in your message taken out? If the earliest religion of the Igbos were Judaism, can it be matched with the Jews of today or the Jews of the Bible? PrecisionFx: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 10:42am On Dec 02, 2017 |
Yeah, I know the scripture but I am asking you to explain. Where does it go, to heaven or inside of God? solite3: |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 10:20am On Dec 02, 2017 |
I am Igbo. Can you recommend a book to me? PrecisionFx: 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 2:48am On Dec 02, 2017 |
Okay. What book do you recommend to us? PrecisionFx: |
Religion / Re: Lanre Teriba Blasts Daddy Freeze, Backs Pastor Ashimolowo On Tithing by lovingJehovah: 6:50pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
No true Christian pays the tithe 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by lovingJehovah: 6:06pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
brocab:What point are you really making here? You seem to be contradicting yourself. It seems as if you know Jesus more than the apostles. brocab:How about John 14:28 ... for the Father is greater than I? brocab:Do you read what you write at all? One God, One Jesus and One spirit. Hahaha . brocab:So, when you lay with a prostitute do you become a duality? If your name were Peter and you slept with a prostitute called Anita, will her name now become Peter? Can we address her as Peter whenever we see her? brocab:So, since we are united with God, can you change the trinity to tetrality? Are we also God? brocab:Wow! Judge Brocab. You must be a spirit for you to understand the things of the spirit. Who gave you that spirit? How long did it take you to make it happen? |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 5:21pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
solite3:Undoubtedly, Jesus made that comment but that was not my question to you. "Did we tell you that Jesus is a man? ." The emboldened was my question. Jesus was a spirit creature before coming to the earth and he is now a spirit creature in heaven. This is what we have always preached. Have we told you otherwise? solite3:Fine question! Colossians 1:15 said that he is the firstborn of all creation. Do you know the definition of firstborn? I think that I should do word breakage for you to understand the word better. FIRST-BORN; First to be born; first fruit etc. Is there a born there? Born is to produce, to bring to life, to bring to existence, to create, to build etc. Now hear it straight from Jesus in Proverbs 8:22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago. Jesus was referred to as a master worker who learned by Jehovah's side. If he wasn't created why did he have to learn? solite3:Whose voice do you yourself hear? If it is that of Jesus, then why can't you hear his voice in John 20:17 and John 17:3? I can't decipher the emboldened above? You are asking me what 1 Timothy 2:5 is? Are you for real? solite3:The son becomes the son of God. 1 John 4:15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. After reading the above verse, would you say that God lives in you? If you say that, do you acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God and not Almighty God or God the son? The Bible told you that there are many gods in heaven but to Jesus, to the first century Christians and Jehovah's witnesses, there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD and he is Jehovah. I do not know about you. |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 4:35pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
solite3:You made a statement and I asked for clarification. You said that the spirit of man goes upward. So, tell me the location. Where is the upward or where is the place? |
Religion / Re: Who Is Jehovah? by lovingJehovah: 4:29pm On Dec 01, 2017 |
Emusan:You do not sound like someone who is truthful to be able to terrorize people who conceal lies. You just lied above that you did not ask how Jesus pronounced the name of God. Can you go through your previous posts to see the evidences to prove that lie has an innate mechanism actuating your mind? Now you seem to be toning down. Just simply say, "now I get it" and move on. Emusan:For the record, Jehovah's witnesses are not into common sense application. We are Bible students and we rely solely on the holy scriptures believing it to be the word of God. Just as Jesus said that he does nothing of his own initiative, we also do not accept any doctrine that the holy scriptures do not endorse. If you are into common sense application, you better drop in front of any Ba'al or pagan temple around you and start relying on God's guidance. Jesus said that your eternal life means John 17:3; knowing Jesus and Jehovah and not on your common sense. Jehovah invites people like you to come to accurate knowledge and to serve him in spirit and truth. When you send someone to make your name known, the person cannot bear your name. All delegates and representatives go in behalf of someone, but their own names are written in the registers of Passes. Do a little learning. |
Religion / Re: Is Jesus God? by lovingJehovah: 1:04am On Dec 01, 2017 |
solite3:So who is Jehovah and who is Jesus? solite3:I asked you of the difference between spirit and Ghost you are telling me of gladness and joy. Are they comparable? Get a dictionary or spend some time with uncle Google. solite3:Show me the word Trinity in the scriptures. Show me where 3 in 1 is mentioned in the Bible. Show me where God-the-son in mentioned in the Bible. Show me were Jesus said, he, the father and the holy spirit are one. Tell me whose voice was heard when Jesus was on earth Matthew 3:17? John 8:18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me." How many persons are there? 2! According to the law that Jehovah gave to the Israelites, 2 witnesses established a case not one. He as a separate person, and his father as a separate entity. And not the word there SENT ME. After mentioning two person he said SENT ME to indicate that one separate person who is in turn capable of standing as one witness is present. solite3:Mr. Bible reader can you read out John 20:17 to us, please! Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Matthew 24:36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. John 5:30 I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. John 20:21 Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many so-called gods and lords), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist. The heretic pagan Trinity doctrine just got bruised in the head. The word of God must prevail. No matter how hard you twist it, it is written. 1 Like |
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (of 14 pages)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 247 |