Oh cool. I will try replying hope I don't get banned again. It was actually the spambot or whatever

salvation101:
u don't av to break any regulation. Its the spambot.. Wat u could do next time is simply to use the mail an mod option.. U will get unbanned in less than an hour except u were banned for breaking a rule though. But if its d spambot dat banned u, just mail an mod nd u will be unbanned

Yeah! How do you know? You are a genius. They got me blocked repeatedly after each post. I really do not know how I break the regulation

salvation101:
Mr lovingjehova, i see d anti spambot is hiding ur post and maybe suspending u... Just send a mail to a Mod or supemod nd it would be resolved in less than an hour

Joebie:
How do you mean by true Christian?

John 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
Jesus said that his own sheep will listen to him. The Bible clearly states that the law of Moses is obsolete because Jesus took it away at the stake. Jesus vividly gave us a new commandment in John 13:34 but some acclaimed Christians are still stuck on the commandment given to Moses for the Jews. If you are still practicing the commandment of Moses and yet claim to be Christians, then falsehood is your identity.

You have no logical membrane in your comment. I thought you would storm with a bombshell. No one ever doubted that they were both called mighty God. Making a conclusive remark based on that indicates a lack of in-depth understanding of the scriptures.
There are many titles that Jesus also shares with humans. Jesus was a man, but how does that decategorize him as a spirit?
So, a reference to Jesus as Mighty God automatically defines him as Jehovah? Does he become a biological son of Jesse because he was called the son of Jesse? He himself uttered that Jehovah is GREATER than he is. Do you know the technical implication is his choice of word? He prayed to Jehovah, he cried to him, he called him his God and clearly states the difference in his will and that of Jehovah.
Just imagine your conclusion as if you just discovered the formula for an alphabet riddle.
We will not be making a decision on articles when a name and a reference have been mentioned. Jesus said in John 17:3 that Jehovah is the only true God. Also, in John 20:17 he referred to him as his God and our God. Do you count Jesus credible at all?
1 Peter 1:3 refers to Jehovah as the God and father of Jesus Christ.
Some thoughts are riling to sanity and we must be careful. Please, read those verse in your own Bible and figure it out accordingly.

solite3:
you have just answered yourself technically.
Both Jesus and Jehovah are called mighty God,
Jehovah is called the mighty God. The definite article used here tells there is only one Mighty God not two which further proves that Jesus is Jehovah God.

How can you love God when you deny the ransom sacrifice of Jesus by continuing in the law of Moses? Jesus gave us a new law called the Law of Christ and Tithing has no place in it. There are no Levites today and the Bible says that he took that law away when he was impaled on the stake. If you love God, Jesus said that if you do it to the least of his disciples then you did it for him. You cannot do it for your daddy and pretend that you did anything for Jesus.

asuustrike2009:

True Christians tithe. They tithe because they love God.

There is evidence in the Bible where the title Mighty God is used to refer to Jehovah and Jesus. And that in no way endorses your belief in a dual God or the Trinity. So answer my question.

solite3:
I ask u a question, is it possible to have two mighty God? Answer mine first then I will answer yours.

salvation101:

U r twisting nd embellishing truth with lies wch is typical of jws. The king who killed tyndale is different from the one reversed all the law against translating the scripture.

No, I am not. The Church of England had always been headed by the kings. Whatever the Church did was under the command of the King. The Church of England was used by Henry III and James VI to either murder Tyndale or plagiarise his work. You should read about the Church, its leaders and its activities. The tool of operation had always rested on the shoulders of the Church of which those two men headed. If we say the British took us as slaves, does it mean that the present generation of Britons are responsible for taking our ancestors as slaves? No! The focus has always been on the country and whoever wears the crown faces the crowd. Both Henry III and James VI did things that our current legal system deems punishable. How is that twisting? It is history, my dear.

salvation101:
Its almost similar to wat Constantine did in Rome. The emperors before him killed Christians but he Constantine came into power and made Christianity the official.

Nopes! Henry III didn't make reading the bible punishable. The Bible at that time was only in Latin and the masses spoke English. Apart from that, only the elites had the luxury to afford the Bible in Latin. Not that it wasn't available. Christianity was never made the official religion in Rome. It was only made legal. Other religions continued their traditions. For those who could not conform to the neo-Christianity (which included the pagan doctrine of the Trinity, the use of idols for worship, the worship of Ishtar/Mary, Hellenistic festivities like Easter, birthday, Christmas etc) continued their traditions proper as before.

salvation101:
U r smart but had i not known d story before now, i would av bought into d hogwash.

I am giving you documented history. I have no reason to lie online. The onus is on you to check for facts.

salvation101:

Now u are talking about copyright law and theft, did any such law exist then?

There were no law forbidden the use of Nuclear weapons, but by your standard, were Americans right to have used it?

salvation101:
U r calling the Bible rotten cos of ur story, u r also saying wat tyndale did was rotten.

In English, we say one bad apple spoils the whole barrel. When something is bad, there is no way around it. I am not calling the Bible translation rotten, but I said that the text heretically inserted in 1 John 5:7 is rotten. It is not found in the Greek scripture, so where did it come from? We cannot make up words to fill the Bible. There are some texts missing in the Greek Scripture. We all know that but it is no one's duty to fabricate anything to fill it up. Preserve the word of God. Tyndale did a great job and that is why he is still remembered. They would have swept his name under the carpet and taken all the glory.

salvation101:
Ur Bible was translated by people who knew nothing about the language just cos ur secret society asked dem to doctor d truth to mean wat ur society teaches.

Well, that is what you have been told. You have no facts to ascertain that. Bloggers are feeding you fictitious lies. At least we did not kill anybody or steal. I am sure that you are surprised to learn of the bloodstain in your heavenly Bible. The KJV is not an authority to anyone. Not even to the KJV publishers. They have made many flaws. So, next time you judge ours think about the mistakes and bloodstain in your KJV.

salvation101:

Jw are not slandered or ridicle for anything than ur heretic teachings..

Who gave you the right to ridicule or slander, even if? Is that the message that Jesus sent you? Why not spend time teaching about God and Jesus than seeking to annihilate the JW?

salvation101:
U said u believe Jesus resurrected. Dat is a lie.

hahaha. Are you forcing us not to believe? I said that we do and I gave you a Bible verse to support my answer. The response came to you as a surprise. The bloggers did not fully enlighten you. You were shocked. LOL. I am positive

salvation101:
U ppl do not believe in d resurrection and ascension of christ.

We believe in the resurrection and ascension of Christ. Acts 1:9 After he had said these things, while they were looking on, he was lifted up and a cloud caught him up from their sight.
We believe that he was buried , yes, that he was raised up on the third day according to the Scriptures 1 Corinthians 15:4

salvation101:

U r now sounding petty by giving crimes committed by individuals church coloration.

I am updating you. You have been programmed to attack the JW and you have a list of topics with fictitious facts. So, I am trying to update you on some more serious issues that require attention or knowledge. Not that we do not know stuff, but we do not engage in smear crusade to bring people down. We try to show people the Bible's viewpoint on issues affecting our lives and the Kingdom of God instead of tackling organisations. We bring positive vibes because what we have is the good news of our God, Jehovah.

salvation101:
Are u saying there aren't crimes committed by our members?

Oh, we are all imperfect. We all sin and fall short of Jehovah's requirements. If not for his grace, I wonder where each one of us would have been. Jehovah's witnesses are not perfect and have never claimed to be. We are all humans. We endeavour and give our best, each one to his capacity. Jehovah strengthens us through his son, Jesus, our king.

salvation101:

Why should i give u Bible references in ur manipulated Bible?

Like I said, our Bible is made for us and for interested ones not for public sharing. No JW has ever knocked at your door and handed you a Bible. Do not feel bothered about our Bible, no one will give it to you by force. Your focus now should be how to erase the heretical text in your own KJV Bible at 1 John 5:7. Also, if you can write a letter of inquiry to KJV to find out the reason for the EDITING and RE-EDITING of the KJV over time, it would be resourceful as well.

salvation101:
While trying to sound spiritual by saying God gave 5 uneducated man committee wisdom to translate (doctor) the Bible u still don't believe u can pray for a common headache today and God will heal

We do not believe in bait and switch miracles. Those displayed on TV are theatrical displays to gain fame and adulation. What we believe in is new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in this righteousness is to dwell. 2 Peter 3:13
We hope to live forever in a peaceful paradise on earth when the world will be restored to God's original purpose and Jesus will rule as our King and priest. A world without death, sorrow and pain. That is the promise that God gave to those who will listen to him.

No true Christian tithes or supports it. That law of tithing is now a waste. Jesus took it away at his death on the stake.

Have you ever been there to tell? They only allow you to worship in private homes? Most of these Arab countries just build a spot and ask all Christians to worship there collectively. They have no respect for your religion. They do not care if you are Catholic or Protestant or Anglican or a Jehovah's witness. People living in that region make private arrangements and there is usually high-security alert around those Christian buildings while Mosques are built everywhere. A dangerous and unjust place to be in the world. They have no regard for human rights. And the locals are usually arrogant and proud.

bedspread:
Who told u Saudi has no Churches? They ahv bro..... some Nigerian churches are der live...

No true Christian tithes. You cannot pour new wine into an old wineskin. Tithing is for the Jews and not for Christians. You cannot claim to tithe and be a Christian at the same time. It is an insult to the law of Christ.

When did religion have to be money money money instead of preaching salvation?

Not really! I just thought about Jude 1:12-13 and decided to end the intellectual riling and divergence of thoughts and beliefs. There are people who are structured to waste fruitful time on fruitlessness. You have your ways and it is different from mine. So, I appreciate your time so far.

joshnes:
Finally, dictionary has kept you quiet. Now, you will not decieve people like this and go scot free. God will eventually arrest you just like Paul and like Paul too, open your eyes to the truth and make you an ambassador of the same truth. I am praying for you and I hope to hear from you then. Do have a nice day too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mBUDazWc0

Okay, bro. Do have a wonderful day ahead of you.

joshnes:
Possess 1. own, have. 2. keep control over 3. become the owner of 4. occupy (the mind) dominate.

LOL. My, oh my. Do you know what it actually means to refer to someone as being possessed?

joshnes:
Oh, I Am. He controls and dominates my human spirit.

Brave men own up while cowards duck. That is the saying of an old soldier.
I can send you a receipt of you saying that you are possessed by the Holy Spirit. Let us iron it out once and for all time. Are you possessed by the Holy Spirit?

joshnes:
I don't expect you to understand, I said my spirit is a possession of the Holy Spirit. One of the definitions of possess in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary is "to control or dominate something". No need to purchase a dictionary, I have got one already. The Holy Spirit controls and dominates my human spirit.

I am glad that you took something away from this. I emboldened your conviction below. Thank you for your time. Bless you and have a wonderful day, my brother.

Daisy17:

Abortion is a life-saving procedure only if the pregnancy is a difficult one. Otherwise it's an elective procedure which is only done by request. Whereas blood transfusions are life-saving procedures. Use your dictionary to find out the meaning of elective. This is my last comment on this topic.

salvation101:
Am serious wen i say i use several versions. The first i revert to is Easy to read version and the message is always intact in fact it amplifies wat is in other reliable versions.

Who certified them reliable?

salvation101:

Why do u make it seem like Tyndale was killed for his work to be stolen?

The Bible says that an evil person will not sleep until he commits evil Proverbs 4:16. What else would you call it if not an egregious crime? Blaspheming against someone, calling him a heretic, and disgracefully Killing him while years later you publish the same thing that you killed that man for. What breed of evil is that? Aren't you complicit trying to defend them? Are you seeing the stain of innocent blood in your (best) Bible?

salvation101:
The church of England at dat time didn't want the Bible translated from the Greek and Hebrew versions and so dey used their influence with the government to get him executed..

You see! These are facts that you need to seek. Do some findings! Who was the Church of England and who was the government? Tell me! The Bible says do unto others as you, in turn, desire to receive. Saying that the Church of England did not want the Bible translated from Greek or Hebrew is an emphatic lie. Do not lie to conceal bloodguilt. In the 1500's The Bible was already in Latin, Egyptian Language, German, English(John Wycliffe) even before William Tyndale. None of these people were reading the Bible in Greek or Hebrew at that time. People were reading and translating from Latin. And why would they not want God's word to be translated into English when the masses spoke English and not Latin, Hebrew or Greek? Don't you smell the devil's rat? They all wanted control. They knew people would find out the truth and break free. They wanted to spoon-feed people with heresy by using tormentuous hellfire as a leverage to instil fear in the hearts of the masses.

salvation101:
Dis didn't happen under king james so take note (i av seen the full documentary on TBN before).

Ludicrous! Do not try to be complicit. The Church never changed. And it is never right to steal someone else's work. He could have simply reprinted more copies of Tyndale's work rather than stealing and rebranding?

salvation101:
When we say Wen King James ascended the throne he canceled those evil laws and ordered a 55 man committee to translate the Bible to English language so that everyone could be able to understand it for themselves

No, that is a hoax. Was he translating what has already been translated? It cannot be translation. If you look intently they call it King James VERSION, not "Translation". If he did any translation works it would have been King James Translation. Give credit to whom it is due, Tyndale. You yourself wrote about his multiple language skills. How credible were the 55 man committee that they could not see the name JEHOVAH in some verses after replacing the name about 7000 times in other verses? What were their qualifications? Plagiarism is a crime and no one involved in such act should get any credit at all. If Tyndale were not killed, and in our soceity today, he would sue King James and the court would squash all the King James Bibles with a heavy fine imposed on King James or even jail time. He got away because he was the king. A thief of a heretical work (that is what the Catholics and Orthodox would have called him back in the days) by the standard of the Church.

salvation101:
even those dey alot of Tyndale works were incorporated into it, it was by thorough scrutiny by the 55 man team to preserve the original meaning.

Hahaha. You are comical. Scrutiny, my foot! King James gave them simple instructions and they coud not follow. The were just copying everything and looking for the name JEHOVAH to replace. Please, join scholars who have been scrutinizing the heretic 1 John 5:7 that they inserted in the KJV. Those men were unskilled enough to scrutinize from the Greek and Hebrew scriptures to know that the name of God is not LORD but Jehovah. At least, they should have used the Tetragrammaton, YHWH. The funny thing is that they themselves scrutinized their own Bible afterwards and completely removed the name JEHOVAH that they left out initially. After 400 years, they scrutinized themselves again to restore the name JEHOVAH almost 7000 times. Much ado about scrutiny. Am exhausted LOL.

salvation101:
It goes to show dat Tyndale did an excellent job even though he didn't finish everything before he was killed.

They just love to reinforce that statment to gain paramount credit for themselves. "He didn't complete the Bible". I will scale over that issue for now.

salvation101:
the book was publish and King James who authorized the translation was given the honor.

The mission was accomplished not that the book was publish. If you squint you will know what I am talkign about.

salvation101:
U talked about plagiarism law, at dat time, nothing of such existed.

As humans, we all have our consciences trolling us. We know when we are stealing, with or without a law. We are talking about a King that had sovereign power over a people. Even if there were laws, he would have killed to have his way. A thief is a thief no matter how the law is construed.

salvation101:
By d way, copyright law only gives the copyrighter the right to his intellectual property for 100yrs and d bible is hundreds of years old already.

Amazing! I love the law. Tyndale's work was published 1536 and King James plagiarised in 1611. That is 75 years, so will you accept that someone broke the copyright law? LOL

salvation101:
Were u trying to sound spiritual wen u said that God is the giver of knowledge and so he gave ir translators knowledge to translate ur book?

What is your obsession with these men? LOL. We have the Hebrew and Greek copies online. We will dig up and you will show me where King James Bible got 1 John 5:7. Are you even bothered about that? You should be more worried that there is dead rat smelling in your own house than another man's. The Bible that you have in your hand right now has some heretic texts inserted into it and that doesn't feel heavy to you?

salvation101:
Yes God is the giver of knowledge, but den the Bible said we should seek knowledge. I dont know ur secular job but am sure if u are an engineer, u wont enter a theater to carry out an operation.

I do not think that an engineer discovered Microsoft. David was a herdsman but he defeated Goliath. 2 Corinthians 4:7 However, we have this treasure in earthen vessels, so that the power beyond what is normal may be God’s and not from us.
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.
Those people you revere and uphold have published a Bible that they have EDITED so many times yet you view them as intellectual and wise ones. They have failed and left in your hand an insertion of a disgusting and heretical text in 1 John 5:7. You defiantly defend them. These men plagiarised from a brutally murdered innocent man that they name a heretic, yet you defend them. Who will avenge the blood of William Tyndale? JEHOVAH! You uphold people who denied the people of God the privilege to hear and read his word in the very language that they understand. Yet, you want to condemn men who make their effort just like Tyndale to preserve the word of God.
Jehovah witnesses were slandered and ridiculed for restoring the name JEHOVAH in the Bible. We were called all sort of names. But people failed to see that the very celestial King James Bible also contains the name JEHOVAH. They failed to announce that JEHOVAH is a name crested in their churches? They failed to announce that King James who deleted the name JEHOVAH from the Bible in the 1600's engraved the name in his coin. They failed to announce to the world that the celestial King James version has also restored the name JEHOVAH in the King James Bible in 2011. They rather look for other reasons to malign us. Open your eyes and see!

salvation101:
Am sure if u want to av a hair cut, u won't be seeking a tailor.

What were the qualifications of the men who plagiarised Tyndale's property?

salvation101:
Tyndale was properly schooled in both greek and Hebrew before he could attempt to translate the Bible. If u aren't schooled in mandarins, can u convert from ur local dialet to mandarin?

The Yoruba Bible was published by a white man and you accepted it. The Igbo Bible was published by a white man and that is acceptable. Even the pidgin language dictionary was published by Oyibo man and you never cringed. But you are so obsessed with the JW and seeking ways to defame us. It is well documented that the Pharisees were seeking ways to kill Jesus. I have presented you a solid fact. When you admit, I will know that you are not biased. Doesn't 1 John 5:7 itch you in the palm anytime you lift the KJV?

salvation101:
U said i ought to feel sober, but u said u knew it was persecution and u aren't bothered..

We are not because we anticipate it anytime. Jesus has told us already. We do not expect pity from you or anyone. Jehovah has been protecting and guiding us through all the attacks and persecution. Did you know that you are only one, and there are millions of you out there attacking the JW?

salvation101:
The Muslims are persecuted in America too. Once u a lady put on hijab she is labeled as a terrorist. Black Africans are suffering in Libya does dat make dem the true followers of christ?

You have a right to choose your belief but Matthew 10:22 says that we will be persecuted ON ACCOUNT OF HIS NAME. We abide by the law, but why the opposition? For example, we have our own Bible. We do not sell it to you or are you obliged to own one. Yet, you cannot sleep. The one that you have, you did not check to see the rottenness inside of it. Jesus advised you to remove the rafter from your own eyes first.

salvation101:
Its not my joy dat one is not allowed to practice his/her religion freely as it in part of fundamental human right, am just telling you dat it is not enough to make one a true follower of Christ.

I hear you.

salvation101:

U don't believe in the trinity

Positive! It is Hellenistic doctrine and it was incorporated into Christianity by a Pagan, Constantine in 325 CE. About 200 years after the death of the last apostle of Christ.

salvation101:

U don't believe in the resurrection of christ

False. We believe that he was buried, yes, that he was raised up on the third day according to the Scriptures 1 Corinthians 15:4.

salvation101:

U don't believe there is hell fire

There is no word like HELLFIRE in the Holy Scriptures. Can you show me?

salvation101:
U don't believe in the rapture

There is no word like "RAPTURE" mentioned in the Holy Scriptures. Please, show me

salvation101:

How den do u claim to be a Christian?

Jesus set it straight in John 13:35 that true Christians will have love among themselves. We do not go to war and we are one united brotherhood.
During the war Catholics in Russia killed Catholics in France. During the tribal clashes in Delta state, Redeem members from Ijaw killed Redeem members from Itsekiri. During the Nigerian civil war, Christians from Nigeria killed Christians from Biafra. If there happens to be another war in Nigeria, the man who sat beside you during the last Sunday's service might kill you and count it as a blessing from God. Muslims kill Muslims in their attacks and wars and they feel justified.
In the event of any war, your daddies, pastors or religious leaders will pray for the efficacy of your weapons to kill your fellow church members on the opposing side.
This is what we as Jehovah's Witnesses do not do. We, rather have love among ourselves. John 13:35

Do we need to purchase a dictionary for you? Dwell and Possess are two different words that are not even synonyms. If you dwell in my house, do you possess my house? Since Abraham dwelled in tents, was that the possession that God gave him?

joshnes:
How can it be? I have told you numerous times, the Holy Spirit dwells in me (1Cor 3:16). That is how it be.

You are funny. We began with being possessed by the spirits and now that you see your folly you are trying to digress. Can we focus on one at a time? Keep that one pending let us focus on being possessed by the spirit. You said that you were possessed by the spirit. So I am asking how, when it is mentioned that demons are the spirits possessing. What spirit are you really possessed by? As for the other guy's question, I have taken care of it and you are not the guy to use him as a reference. Use our very own conversation as a reference and stay on it.

joshnes:
your evasive tactics will not work tonight. Answer this; does the bible mention that the Holy Spirit dwells in man or not? Someone asked you how many Mighty Gods there are today, you didn't answer, you instead asked your own question. Answer my question and the question you're asking, I have answered already. Answer the questions you are asked and stop using subtilty and be straight forward.

Do not shrivel. What church do you represent?
Is abortion not LEGAL in many places of the world? What, then, makes a treatment elective?

Daisy17:

It is not elective.

We are not looking for synonyms. Are you insisting that you are possessed (by a spirit)?

joshnes:
He is also mentioned to dwell in the believer, isn't He?

How can it be? Spirits can only be possessed by demons. The Holy Spirit is not mentioned to perform in such manner

joshnes:
okay my spirit man is possessed by the Holy Spirit, my spirit is His house, his dwelling place.

A knowledgeable and reasonable mind always knows how to tackle the most difficult questions. My questions are simply drawn from what you say. Read your previous comments and judge for yourself. You talk and I question for clarification

joshnes:
your questions sometimes portray you in a terrible light intellectually. Did I ever say that's his only role? That's not His only role. Read John 16:13-14, you will see the role of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer. The Holy Spirit plays this role through our own spirit (Rom 8:16). It is the spirit of a man that communicates with the Holy Spirit. One of the signs of a son of God is the leading by the Spirit of God through your own human spirit.

Sorry, I forgot this one. A possession is something owned. For example, the Bible says that God's people are his own possession

joshnes:
what does it mean to possess? what is a possession?

You didn't attempt to answer my question. According to the Bible, evil angels are known to possess (hence they manipulate and control) while the Holy Spirit, which is the active force of Jehovah is mentioned to fill or be with.

joshnes:
what does it mean to possess? what is a possession?

So, the entire role of the Holy Spirit is to help you recognize evil spirits?
Where did you get the concept that our spirit is the most basic way of hearing from God after his word? Can you back that up with the Bible?

joshnes:
I know by the witness of the Holy Spirit. He guides me into ALL truth, He bears witness, testimony with my spirit and I can thereby discern an evil spirit. If you don't know, your spirit is the most basic way of hearing from God after His Word.

You do not have to recoil. I am human like you. You can easily say, 'I withdraw that statement", "my bad" or "I was wrong on that". It is more manly. I understand every word that you say so you do not need to use puerile slangs to make me understand anything. I will ask for clarification if I need one.
Therefore, do you want to admit that the Holy Spirit has not possessed anyone? Or, do you want to hold on to that? I am pretty sure that you took a lil while to do some quick lookup.
How do the quoted verses below reflect here? They dont.

joshnes:
what I say are the truth, facts are bound by human knowledge, truth is not bound by anything. Mr lovingJehovah, I used your word possess to help your own understanding. The Holy Spirit dwells, abides, lives, is at home in me. He therefore owns my body or possesses it as His own. Therefore He can deal with anyone or anything that tries to defile it (2Cor 3:16, 17).

What is fact and who are you saving it for? Be bold to express yourself instead of dodging questions that appear as storms to you. The Holy Spirit possesses you! Can you show me in the Bible where someone gets possessed by the Holy Spirit?

joshnes:
I am not spilling facts for you, I am telling you the truth and you better accept and be free. I am a spirit, I have a soul and I live in a body. The Holy Spirit also dwells in me. If there is anything I possess or own it will be a soul and a body. I don't possess the Holy Spirit, in fact I'd rather say He possesses me.