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Farki:There you go again and you are wrong again. You cannot pass a bill to execute someone just because of their religion. You can only do something to them only if their actions affect you or someone else as in if Muslim attacks you or someone else physically or verbally then you can execute them other than that you cannot execute them just based on their faith alone. The Nigerian constitution gives everyone freedom of religion but not the freedom to attack anybody's religion or beliefs physically or verbally. |
Coldie:Islamicaly its not right to always kill an ignorant Muslim or non Muslim for their actions against Islam. To the best of my knowledge the right thing to do is to educate them and not kill them. A bushman or village man once entered the Masjid of Prophet Muhammad (saw) and took out his manhood and starts to urinate in the Masjid where Muslims pray at, the companion of Prophet Muhammad (saw) want to beat up the man but the Prophet Muhammad (saw) ordered them not to beat him but to clean him up educate him instead simply because he's ignorant of what Islam is. The northern interpretation of Islamic punishment is mostly wrong. |
Farki:You cannot create your own law saying Muslims should be killed for no reason simply because you're just one man. It's not jungle justice and you're definitely not a state but just one man. Any state in Nigeria are free to make laws within their state and if you choose to go there and break there laws then they the state have every right to charge you. I as a Muslim also believe the north implementation of the Shariah laws are mostly wrong and definitely un-islamic |
Awol1:What does MURIC have to do with this Article? Why so much hatred for the Yoruba Muslims? all the names mentioned in this article are probably Yoruba Christians, even the said Group (Egbe Amofin), which supported the candidacy of Deacon Dele Adesina, SAN is a Christian Deacon and yet you still finds a way to blame it on the Yoruba Muslims. Its like you're blinded by hatred of the Yoruba Muslims. |
MelaninSkinGirl:Black women can definitely do worse, a bad white woman will wrongfully accused a black man but a bad black woman will not only wrongly accuse you but will also physically attack you in the process. |
sweetmelanin:Believe me, the Black woman (Mostly African American women) will do worst to the black man. there are many black men locked up in prison today because of domestic violence cases, most of them are set up by their fellow black women. American women in general (including some Nigerian women too) are quick to call police (911) and will lie against the man even though they are usually the aggressor simply because they know the system always favors the women. I've had to bailed out my Male friends from the jail on multiple occasions even though my Male friends are usually the ones that actually called the police against their black girlfriend or baby mama for protection against these women aggressiveness or assaults. these women will yelled at you, slap you, assault you in every possible way and turn around and lie and called the man the aggressor whenever they see the police. the system always favors the women against the man. many black men in prison today are put there by a lying black woman. why do you think many of our Nigerians brothers are now killing their own Nigerian imported wife in America. |
Okoroawusa:Are you sure about your in America Statement? the man may get the same numbers of years or less sentence or more, depending on the state within America. most bible belts states(southern states) in America have less age of consent. some have 16 or even 15 years old as the age of consent. and yes if in America the Man is white, he's in the southern state, is a Republican, is a Christian, is rich and can afford the best lawyers, he can definitely walk away free and not be charge in your so called America. |
hotdo9:is this really a rape case or charges? the question is what is the age of consent in Nigeria? if the girl is within the age of consent and she agrees or consent to the marriage then she's his wife. but marrying and traveling the girl without the consent of her parents is mainly what his charge for |
Iyiataata92:Stupid act of marrying kids? or criminal marriage? really! the only thing that may be criminal with this case is marrying the girl without the consent of her parents or adult guardian. even in many so called European western countries the age of consent is 15 or 14 years including the U.S. yes you have every right to dislike marrying at a young age but calling it criminal act or stupid act is wrong when it's not. even you yourself how old was your grandma or great grandmother when she married your grandfathers? if they are 15 or younger, are you now saying your grandfathers are criminals or stupid? |
Orubebe01:You forgot to quote since when! Since when do Christians behave orderly? or do they really behave orderly or the western Christian media mostly focuse on the bad behavior of other religions except christianity. do you remember the same Castholic crusaders Army killing of millions of innocent children, women and men in the name of God just because they were not catholic. The KKK in the U.S. killing of black American in the name of God and they still exist till today The lord resistance Army in central African republic recently killed non Christians in the name of God Christians are just as rascal as other religion if not worse. they are still the undisputed number one when it comes to killing of others and that's a fact. check your history Sir.
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SharonLoveth:I really don't believe that Nigeria as a country having limited resources is the main problem, Nigera as a country have more than enough resources to be successful as a nation, our main problem is bad management and corruption by both the government and the citizens. reducing the maximum number of children will definitely not stop or fix corruption or bad governercce. I strongly believe Nigeria biggest resource is not oil but our huge population which we failed to take advantage of. it's just a matter of time for country like China to over the U.S. as the biggest economy not because they are smarter or better but its because of its huge population (over a billion). almajiri problem is not because of limited resources, but I believe it's a problem of bad governance, bad leadership and bad citizens. |
SharonLoveth:I'm not sure about having policy to specify a specific maximum child bearing, majority of Nigerians are either Christian or Muslim and both the Bible and Qur'an advocate or promotes having more children if you have the means to do it. it will be seen by both Christians and muslims as government infringing or violating their Gods given rights by limiting the numbers of children. that will only be possible in a secular society which Nigeria is really not even though Nigerians claims to be a secular country but yet they will pay tithes/Zakat before paying taxes and building maga churches and masjid before factories or hospitals. Nigeria is far from being a secular society and that law will probably not work |
SharonLoveth:you're very correct, there's nothing wrong in learning from the westerners or any body else especially if its going to be to our very own benefit as muslims as long as it's in accordance with the Quran and sunnah. as muslims, we also have to be very careful when adopting anything from the west. take family planning of the west as an example, there are many factors that needs to be considered before adopting it. factors like abortion which is legal in the west but its definitely haram in Islam. I personally believe the problem is way bigger than family planning or Northerners having too many kids. take polygamy for example? its was designed according to the shariah to benefit the women but the way its practices by our muslims men is mostly to benefit the man. you can easily see a jobless twenty something year old Male in the north with 3 to 4 wives and even if each wife starts family planning and give birth to just 1 or 2 kids, we are still taking of a man with 4 wives and and and about 8 kids. that's about 12 mouths to feed for one jobless man but according to the shariah a jobless is not qualified to take a second wife take less of a 3rd wife, that's why I said the problem is bigger than family planning. if they truly practice Islam according to the Qur'an and Sunnah (Shariah) then family planning will be the least of their worries |
OdefaGirl:you're very correct. but are all muslims Almajiri? definitely not. Almajiris are from the North....(Hausa) Almajiris are from the North....(Kaduna) Almajiris are from the North....(kano) everything I said above is the truth. it's really not about what you said but it's about how its presented. you can present a truth in a false way to make it look false. the real common denominator is "North" and not Islam. |
SharonLoveth:you definitely might be right and I might be wrong as well. also remember I never said outright 50/50, what I said was "Probably 50/50" meaning I'm not 100% sure. I'm just going by my very old experience in Lagos which is around 2 decades ago or more. I've been away from Nigera for a long time now. also remember I was actually excluding the almajiri beggars, that's why I said the regular beggars are probably 50/50 but I may be wrong. |
SharonLoveth:im really not going to say family planning is a western ideology, yes it's made popular by the west. the Chinese also have a one child policy and they not westerners. Islam allow muslims to have any numbers of children they want as long as you can cater for them. Islamicaly some people can only have or should have one child while some people can have more its usually based on if you have the means and resources. |
SharonLoveth:Ameen, may almighty God bless you as well. as in regards to family planning, to the best of my knowledge Islam encourages having children just like in christianity but it also stipulates its the man's responsibility to take care his family (wife and children) and definitely begging is not an option unless you have a valid reason. Prophet Muhammad was reported saying it's better for a man to go in the forest to cut down woods and carry it on his back to market to sell to make money to cater for his family than to beg people for money. if you ask me, I'll say the problem is that the north is not as Islamic as they are claiming. cutting poor people hand or flogging of the weak is north the Shariah law, but respecting the rule of law by every citizen is actually the shariah law. a southern state like Lagos actually practiced the Shariah law more than some so called Islamic northern states. its just negligence in their responsibilities as muslims. this may sound strange but the solution to all this problem is actually withing islam in it self. some of this people are not just uneducated in western education but are definitely uneducated when it comes to Islamic doctrine. |
SharonLoveth:With all due respect, it's not a Islamic Problem as in Islamic doctrine. it's more of a cultural problem within certain ethnicities. it's a fact that Islam doctrine is against begging as a profession and Islam definitely supports seeking of knowledge from anywhere. “The Messenger(Muhammad) of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Seeking knowledge is obligatory upon every Muslim.’” even if you have a travel as far as China to seek knowledge |
SharonLoveth:Thanks, the truth is that Islam is really not against this so called western education. what do we really mean whenever we say western education? my simple definition of western education today is vast knowledge that mankind have acquired over the past centuries. we have discoveries made by African, whites, non whites, muslims and non muslims that the world is benefiting from today but western education is defined today as if it's a white man education or invention even though the first recorded university was in muslims territory during the golden age of Islam. when the West(Europe) was still in the dark ages, islam actually made it it mandatory for muslims to seek knowledge (which muslims are failing to do now) muslims built the first universities, first libraries, discovered algebra (Mathematics). European where actually colonized and by ruled for over 500 years by the Muslims caliphate. Europeans where actually educated by the Muslims they even adopted the Muslims numbering system because the Roman numerals is weak when solving complex mathematic equations (algorithms, algebra.... all have Arabic roots). it saddens me as a moslem whenever I see other muslims saying western education is haram, yes the west are claiming western education just like they are claiming they discovered river niger or Columbus discovered America... even though it's not the case. is it not the Same Islam that made it mandatory for muslims to seek knowledge wherever they can find it even if they have to travel as far as China. but some ignorant muslims today are now saying western education is haram even though some of the so called western education where actually muslims inventions or discoveries. its negligence on the Muslims in their responsibility as muslims in seeking education. Islam made it mandatory to take care of your responsibility including raising your children and not to beg others unless you have a genuine reason. |
SharonLoveth:you also need to understand that, your "90% claim is just Muslims", but are also from certain region of the country. there are way more yoruba muslims living in Lagos than northern Muslim but yet 90% of the almajiri beggars in Lagos are from the north. but if we truly analyze the regular beggars(not almajiri) in Lagos for example, both Christians and muslims are well represented probably 50/50. |
SharonLoveth:you do have a solid point, but I disagree with your saying "the level of illiteracy in Islam " the better way to put it can be "the level of illiteracy amongst Muslims or Northerners Muslims " . Islam as a religion makes it mandatory for muslims to seek knowledge and educate themselves even if they have to travel as far as China just to seek knowledge(China being so far away from most places). Islam is definitely not the problem but some muslims that usually incorporate cultural beliefs into Islam are the problem. |
OdefaGirl:can you please give us evidence for your claim from the Quran or hadiths? how come other muslims from other regions are really not into almajiri? |
Aarenaija:it's more of a cultural thing and not religion and its in certain regions not just among the northern Hausa Nigeria states. its common in some other parts of west African countries as well. it's not really common amongst the Arabs but common amongst the south Asians as well, like Indians (among the Indian Hindus, Christians and Muslims). it's more of a cultural thing. |
Symorne:it's more of a cultural thing and definitely have nothing to do with Islam. |
SharonLoveth:Why blame Islam? Almajiri is more of a cultural thing and not Islam(The most misunderstood religion) The Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him, regarded begging which is taken as an occupation as disgrace and said: “Some among you do not ever abandon begging. Finally, on the Day of Resurrection, that dishonorable person will meet Allah with no flesh left on his face.” (Muslim, Zakat, 103) “Whoever continues to beg people for their property in order to accumulate much property, surely asks for a piece of fire…” (Muslim, Zakat, 105). “It is better for one among you to bring a load of firewood on his back and give charity out of it (and satisfy his own need) and be independent of people, than that he should beg from people, whether they give him anything or refuse him (Muslim, Zakat, 107) Islam does not deem Muslims who do not work, who sit idly, make do with a morsel and a coat, and who pose burden on other People as good Muslims. As is understood in the hadiths above, it is strictly forbidden to beg and to take begging as an occupation. Almajiri is not common in most Muslim countries including the southwest Nigeria. |
imolile:if truly you're willing to teach the bible and the savior I'm also willing to learn. with all due respect can I be your student? by the way I'm a Muslim � |
imolile:You're entitled to your own opinion, by the way who told you Jesus can forgive sin? do you have any evidence of that? even Jesus (son of Marriam) said, he himself cannot do nothing by himself . |
Bukky244:Nothing is this verses preach intolerance of non muslims, you as a Christian have every right to call jesus God and I as a Muslim also have every rights to reject your claim. your bible says the only way to heaven is through christ and muslims will be in hell fire for eternity and you do have the right to say that(christianity is entitled to its opinion) but also remember that Islam/Quran is also entitled to its opinion or belief, its called tolerance For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.” (Quran 109: 6) Sura 9:29-31 does not ordered any Muslim to kill any non Muslim the verse is simply ordering Muslim State (A Specific Government over 1,600 years ago) the government of Muhammad (saw) in The city of Medinah that signed an alliance with the Jewish and Christian living under the Muslim state to simply pay the Jizya(Tax) Muslims then where to pay Zakat (religious tax) while non muslims are not required to pay the Zakat (religious tax) but they are only required to pay The Jizya (regular Tax) the jizya is actually lesser than the Zakat and only the adult Males are required to pay the jizya while both adults males and females muslims are required to pay the Zakat. this taxes is what is used in maintaining the city including security for all its citizens (Muslims, Jews and Christians). the verse was only telling the Muslim government 1,600 years ago (not individual muslims today and definitely not boko haram or ISIS) to fight/prosecute non muslims that refused to pay until they pay up. nothing in the verse says kill non muslims |
Bukky244:You're entitled to your own opinion, the problem with people like yourself is that you'll always believe whatever you want to believe even with zero evidence to back your claim. we have a situation where a mad man (boko haram leader) is saying the Quran said this and that without any reference or quoting of any Quranic verses. it's a fact that Islam/Quran teaches tolerance “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8 )this verse talking about being peaceful with all non Muslim that are peaceful with the muslims According to Islam, no one can be compelled to live by Islamic morals. "You cannot guide those you would like to but God guides those He wills. He has best knowledge of the guided.” (Holy Quran/28: 56) We can not force others to accept our point of view and our religion or faith. "For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.” (Quran 109: 6) |
Snipper007:American slavery = by Christians and justified with the bible by slaves masters Colonial Masters = Christians Crusaders = Christians KKK = Christian's Alduf Hitler = Christian Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) in Uganda = Christians........ |
Mikecold:What do you now call the crusaders? or Ku Klux Klan(KKK in America)? or The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA Originally known as the United Holy Salvation Army and Uganda Christian Army/Movement). who gets to define terrorism? and remember Muslims don't control the media. for example, In north-east India there is a long simmering terror campaign in Nagaland to create a separate Christian state that has killed over 200,000 people, where the late American Christian evangelist Billy Graham has attracted pop-star status. Nowhere do we hear about “Christian terrorists” in Nagaland, but, we hear a lot about the Hindu “Saffron Armies”. so get your facts right please. |
Mikecold:Your question is actually posted wrongly, questioning about christianity since his birth(probably just few dacades) even though Christianity have been around for over two thousand years and did most of its wrongful killings (dark ages) up until the early 1900 century. Christian mostly stop its killing just in the last 100 years (century) after it had already gained or forcefully converted most of the world population into christianity through mostly violent means (crusades, colonialism, American slavery......) hiding under the disguise of missionary. Most of Europe use to be pagan and within few centuries, over 95% became Christians, how come? its mostly through forceful convert of the pagans into christianity. I remember reading about a British or French king in early European history charging a whole nation (another small country) to death sentence unless they convert into christianity. I want you to study early European history to see how christianity destroyed the ancient world. below is an article by new york times about early European history https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/06/08/books/review/catherine-nixey-darkening-age.amp.html |