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Doubt's the only movie I've seen her in.Talented, in a classic,serious acting chops sort of way.Why doesn't she do more?Bassett's been wonderful for years. She's the one who should have an Oscar, not Ms Make Me Feel Good, who couldn't even acknowledge her 'able' costar in her acceptance speech. Idiotic doesn't even begin to describe some Oscar results. No one pretends it reflects real merit most of the time.Once nominees are announced,many of the nominated go about 'wooing' voters, and if they succeed, they get the votes. Others don't do it, believing their work should be enough. When they called Halle's name I laughed my head off. What a joke.

JK, why are you hollering Jda Pinkett since morning na? Got a thing for her, do ya? Ashawo; you're too late. But that's one beautiful woman; esp in Set if Off.
Halle Berry in Monster's Ball. And she gets an Oscar for it. Which part of her performance in that movie struck the voters as Oscar-worthy? The scene with Billy Bob?
Taraji and Bassett the only good black actresses jare. Make Nia Long go siddon with her squinty eyes and black lipstick like she lives in Halloween Forever. Which rubbishy role of Beyonce's robbed her of an opportunity to shine? Stuck to 'black' movies and is now yapping there are no roles. Black guys don't seem to have a problem with getting roles though. They're smart. Even this Naija guy has 'gone'. The guy with Denzel in Inside Man. Chinedu or Chibuke or something. You know the one, with the kpaporoko head typical of all the men from JeSoul's hometown.

del

Reading, with almost mind-numbing pleasure, COSMOS by Carl Sagan. The book enlarges upon the 80s tv series. This guy single-handedly sparked my enduring interest in cosmology as a child. What a mind, what a scientist, what a man. Gifted writer too.
Managed to watch Obsessed, though I didn't finish. This girl from Heroes was in it, I forget her name. Pure comedy.

She's not picking up? Don't go nuts! Why didn't you pray yourself? Your prayer is just as 'solid' as anyone else's.
May the Lord surround her with himself entirely,and protect her. Stay calm, think good thoughts and try not to worry.
Let's know when you do get through to her,and she's fine.

spikedcylinder:
Nawa o. Simple innocent me eh?

Anyways, did Madam Fox's acting impress you?

Innocent ko, innokobo ni.
As for Fox, I came, I saw, I ignored her stupid presence, and conquered.

Her shitty acting that sets her above her peers. Hehe

Spikie, you have the corruptest mind on NL, I swear. Even mine pales in comparison. It's no small feat. It must have taken years of dedication, discipline, hard work, toil and great sacrifice to achieve a mind as corrupt as that. I bow, sensei.
Transformers 2 wasn't half bad.

Joshi wantintin
He's safe from my clutches. Shey we can at least look at him? Thank you.

Watching Transformers 2. Why didn't one of those explosives blow this girl to smithreens for real? The explosives guy will wring his hands and say, chei yaa, she don die true true? The world will understand and forgive him. Enjoying the Fox-free zones in the movie though. Good action.

How's the Govt to pay for it na? Even if it's not free, it should at least be good, and the healthcare system's terribly poor, the attitude of doctors at public hospitals really something to see. I'm sure those who died from bad healthcare wouldn't mind paying for good healthcare and staying alive. A friend of mine was telling me how supremelyn incomptetent healthcare administration is over here. She said Naija doctors only know and treat two diseases: Malaria and typhoid. If anything else apart from that dey worry you, na die be dat.

Stupid lawmakers. You can tell those against it do so to protect their own landlordly interests. Criminal to ask tenants to pay 2/3 years rent in advance. So insanely unreasonable it can only make sense in naija. Does the average tenant, many of them salaried, collect 2/3 years salary at a whop? What are they supossed to do, rob a bank because they want to rent a place? Pass the freakin bill, morons.

You read my vows in that post, did you? Wash that one-track mind of yourn with lye soap.

Vesc, I couldn't access David's email account this morning. Some periodic password change,for heightened security or something. Will get that sorted out. I don't know if you've sent that email. If you have, no fear. If you haven't, be sure to send it this week. Miss you,sweetie.

Wow.
He's like a thousand degrees centigrade; melting hot!
Don't compare him to Craig though. If it were just looks I wouldn't have paid him the slightest attention. But Craig has presence and cold blue steel for eyes and raw animal magnetism as Bond. He makes me want to run my fingers through his hair and bite him, and shoot bad guys with his guns. Even though it affords him considerable amusement,even my partner gets his appeal. He's his favourite Bond.
Craig for-ever!

justkunmi:
Even.in.the.middle.of.all.the.xplosions. .she.was.still.tryin.to.look.cute. .
She.didnt.even.scream.much.sef. . Lmao. .Jus.watch.it.for.the.action. U'll.enjoy.it. Jus.ignore.Megan.

LOL!
Will proceed with extreme caution and watch the first few minutes. Will see if I can resist the impuse to fling Fox into outer space and ignore her liprobatics.

JeSoul:
Eya sorry I no fit bring you now, it was either you or one handsome guy kulikuli will not quite do it . . . now if you're talking about authentic mallam suya . . .

_{sniff sniff}
All right. Since it was the handsome guy. I'm collecting my suya sha!
Who's Josh Duhamel?

I must see this Obsessed. The selling point was the climbing upstairs and spreading petals and falling into bed,all in slow motion. My sides are killing me. I must see it,even if it's only that scene.

JS! All of una go vacation, una no call me join una. Wetin you bring come? Kulikuli abi?

justkunmi:
madmax
the.sound.of.ripping.metal.would.compensate.for.Megan. .
if.its.action. .Transformers2.is.aiit!

I'm not sure it will. I can't can't can't stand her!

I knew to trust my gut and stay away from that movie. She pouted and postured and posed for Playboy and Angelinaed her way through the first instalment. Now she's plumped up her lips and looks like a blowfish, and I'm supossed to sit through more stupid pouting? As they say in Spanish: No freakingno way-no

The only reason I'm not slaughtering chickens and sending you a hex right now is because I sense you have a family that likes you very much.

Na kulikuli she go see buy come.
Oya gimme. I go manage am.
I must must must see a movie this week.
Craig darling, you are much male and I'm thinking of you!
The way you walk and
the way you talk and
the way you hold a gun and
killlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
La la la la la

Reincarnation and karma have been known for thousands of years, before the advent of Buddism. Do you have some proof of this, or am I supposed to just take your word for it? And since reincarnation and Karma are Buddhist terms, by what terms were these concepts known, by what people, 'thousands of years ago?
As for the similarities in religious concepts, that's a given. They have ideas in common, they also have ideas that set each apart and is unique only to them. I mentioned what set Buddism apart from Christianity and Islam, you mention what they had in common, as f that was the point and that changes the fact that each religion has core doctrinal differences. Even the same religion has chisms in ideas. You also continue to talk of Grail as if it were a religion,pointing out similarities between religions to #show# its ideas aren't borrowed.
Even if Buddhist ideas were flying around 'thousands of years ago', we are in the present, are we not? Grail wasn't written 'thousands of years ago, it was written in the 20th century, a time when each religion has well-defined religious and philosophical boundaries. There is no confusion. We know what ideas belong where. In the time since the amorphous 'thousands of years' ago, each religion is well-drawn. So Grail cannot have got reincarnation from 'thousands of years ago'. The author would have to be alive thousands of years ago to claim the attitudes and ideas of his times. We're in the present. I have no idea where you get the information on what the Ibo peoples believed in thousand of years ago, as there are no written records of ANY African peoples that date , much less thousand year old sociological documents. Historians know little about Africa's past. There is no way anyone can claim to know what a tribe thought thousands of years ago.

Grail was written in modern times, when the major religions are established, when everyone knew what belonged where. The themes and central ideas in his book has been covered by Buddhist texts hundreds of years old. This is something so obvious and so evident to anyone who's read extensively on Buddhist thought and philosophy, that I am amazed to be having this discussion at all. You still haven't told me exactly what
Buddhist religious and philosophical texts you've read. Please feel free to think what you like about where a modern book got its ideas and treatment on thought forms,past lives, and karma and reincarnation from,among other things. I'm weary arguing the very very obvious.

Magic and Mystery in Tibet by Alexandra David-Neel. It's an old book though,and the woman's long dead. Died at the age of 101yrs. If you can't get it at bookstores,order from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Mystery-Madame-Alexandra-David-Neel/dp/0486226824

She's also the author of The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddisht Sects, a must-read.
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Teachings-Tibetan-Buddhist-Sects/dp/0872860124/ref=pd_cp_b_1/177-6482759-2061046

I'm not advocating Buddhism, mind, but one should be acquainted with other religions;otherwise one really hasn't made a choice among them but is merely stuck from tradition or indoctrination or whatever.

Pastor AIO:
I wish I could find a link to an interesting program with Chinua Achebe in it where he spoke about the process through with people were converted in igboland and how it affected their minds. Children were literally taught (brainwashed) into looking down on the traditions of their parents. It wasn't even done subtly.

Inferiority complex because Abrahamic religions require that it's adherents look down on all non adherents. First it's the Jews on the Gentiles (dogs) which gets inherited by the Christians and the Muslims to despise what isn't theirs. When they come into contact with other cultures a face off inevitable ensues. If the Christians blink first then the foreign cultures will just dismiss christianity as an oddity, but the if the foreign culture blinks first then it will succumb to the christian/muslim worldview in which it is considered inferior and evil.

Ambition because christianity and Islam came with imperialism. Converted Christians became the go betweens between the imperial powers and the native population. As such they gained from being involved in all the trade. In the new imperial system those who were equipped to progress within the system, ie. those who had the education of the imperial masters, became superior to the other natives. It made more sense if one was ambitious to convert. All this was true of islam too, but the european imperialism overtook the islamic one.

Self loathing was taught to them in schools. Afterall when you look down on your father you are inevitably looking down on yourself.

Superficiality because it was not so important that the religion is properly understood but rather that one just went through the motions. Examples of this superficiality is obvious from translation of words and ideas from christianity/islam to the native language. How did the ancient yoruba understand the Christian Satan? Is Esu really Satan? Esu had his place in Yoruba cosmology before christianity came. How did the way he was understood fit into christian cosmology? Is Allah really Eledumare? This can only happen if one's understanding of these deities is treated superficially. There is more, but I am just painting in broadstrokes here.

I get what you mean. I particularly liked the part about the translation of 'foreign' deities into cultural counterparts that pre-existed the arrival of those religions. When a Yoruba animist says Esu, is he really referring to Christianity's Satan or Islam's Shaitan? Interesting question,man.

seeklove:
Still this does not prove that the author of the Grail message got his ideas from Buddhism. There are also ideas in the bible that is similar to some ideas in Buddhism and Islam. Now would you conclude that Christianity got their ideas from Buddhism.

I just noticed this.Not the same thing at all. Religions do have some ideas in common,but each also has ideas that are its trademark and unique only to that religion. Karma and reincarnation are Buddhist signatures. Abi they're in Christianity and Islam?
The Grail Message is a 20th century book. You're talking as if it's a religion. Its author presents his ideas but he makes no pretensions to creating a religion,and its devotee here claims Christianity. Are you saying The Grail Message is not a book,it's a religion? Otherwise why compare a book to established religions? If Grail's a religion what's its religion called?

Read the book first before assuming she doesn't know what she's talking about.

Spiked, how've you been? Travelled or what? Wetin you carry come?
iice, I haven't heard of avatar.I've been so busy I wouldn't know if they were shooting the darned thing in my backyard. The plot sounds completely fabulous though!

Tibet became her home,I think. What did France have to offer a lama? She says the creature became troublesome and she had to dissolve it. But it didn't go without a fight, as it took six good months for her to get rid of it. It was enjoying its stay in Tibet! She herself wonders at the fact that others could see it, and wonders if it wasn't autosuggestion; that her mind impressed the image on other minds and they saw what she saw. It's also possible the thing was physically manifested.That's the pleasure of reading the book; she's an advanced Tibetan Master, but she's also a scholar and is always rational.

Pastor AIO:
I wish I could find a link to an interesting program with Chinua Achebe in it where he spoke about the process through with people were converted in igboland and how it affected their minds. Children were literally taught (brainwashed) into looking down on the traditions of their parents. It wasn't even done subtly.

Inferiority complex because Abrahamic religions require that it's adherents look down on all non adherents. First it's the Jews on the Gentiles (dogs) which gets inherited by the Christians and the Muslims to despise what isn't theirs. When they come into contact with other cultures a face off inevitable ensues. If the Christians blink first then the foreign cultures will just dismiss christianity as an oddity, but the if the foreign culture blinks first then it will succumb to the christian/muslim worldview in which it is considered inferior and evil.

Ambition because christianity and Islam came with imperialism. Converted Christians became the go betweens between the imperial powers and the native population. As such they gained from being involved in all the trade. In the new imperial system those who were equipped to progress within the system, ie. those who had the education of the imperial masters, became superior to the other natives. It made more sense if one was ambitious to convert. All this was true of islam too, but the european imperialism overtook the islamic one.

Self loathing was taught to them in schools. Afterall when you look down on your father you are inevitably looking down on yourself.

Superficiality because it was not so important that the religion is properly understood but rather that one just went through the motions. Examples of this superficiality is obvious from translation of words and ideas from christianity/islam to the native language. How did the ancient yoruba understand the Christian Satan? Is Esu really Satan? Esu had his place in Yoruba cosmology before christianity came. How did the way he was understood fit into christian cosmology? Is Allah really Eledumare? This can only happen if one's understanding of these deities is treated superficially.

There is more, but I am just painting in broadstrokes here.

Very interesting.
Will need some chewing on.

seeklove:
Still this does not prove that the author of the Grail message got his ideas from Buddhism. There are also ideas in the bible that is similar to some ideas in Buddhism and Islam. Now would you conclude that Christianity got their ideas from Buddhism.
I have told you that I have read allot about Buddhism and Hinduism and at the moment I am reading the Grail Message. Eventhough the both talk about reincarnation, their explanation of it is not the same. The Grail Message is not that similar to Buddhism. I will give you more examples:
1) Buddhism encourages meditation as essential for spiritual development, the Grail Message does not.
2) Buddhism encourages vegetarianism as essential for developing compassion, the Grail message does not.
3) Buddhism believes in Nirvana(the state dissolving ones personality and merging with the creator) , the Grail message does not.
If you can please list the similarities between the Grail message and Buddhism that justifies your accusation, I will appreciate it.
Thanks

Actually you told me you read Lampa's books. I read one of his books a long time ago. He was grousing, in a darling sort of way, about the thousands who write him and don't include postage. He was adorable, but the book seemed to be about his cat. Are his books extensive philosophical treatises? Which books on Buddism and Hinduism have you read exactly? Lampa may have written books, but he isn't the founder or originator of the ideas on Buddism. His books are the equivalent, for Christians, of Adeboye or Jakes or Creeflo or Meyer Hagin's books; they're adherents of the religion, but they aren't its founders nor do they invent its philosophy. I may have been too young to understand his books though.
Which books did you read on Buddism?

Are those the major ideas in the Grail Message? Those are unimportant details. The major ideas are karma, reincarnation, thought forms, and other stuff. Are you implying I'm saying Grail copied and pasted from Buddism textbooks or what? His book can't be a mirror image of Buddist doctrines, can it? I've told you exactly what ideas the book copied and tweaked. And a note on an unimportant detail; Not all schools of thought on Buddism think alike; like any other religion they have doctrinal differences; There are Buddhist sects that do eat meat. Some Buddist sects believe in gods, others teach that life and existence itself is an illusion,a dream within a dream, and we create our gods and our afterlife experiences. Honestly, its a fascinating religion.

So Buddism says people reincarnate as people, animals and rocks, but Grail says people only reincarnate as people? How original. And the idea of reincarnation itself comes from where? Grail's author invented it? And the teachings on thoughts and the invisible universe; he originated those, abi? Oskar invented the ideas on rincarnation, karma, thought forms, and the world heard about those concepts for the first time when he published his book? Is that what you're saying? Those,among his other ideas, have been around for a very very long time. He merely modified them and added jara.

There's an interesting chapter in Magic and Mystery in Tibet where the author, a French scholar who brings a refreshing rationality to Tibetan Buddism, describes how she (she became a lama) created a being using just her thoughts. Yes, Lamas can do that. It took her several months. She stayed secluded and pictured a fat jolly monk in her mind until the creature appeared. And then she left seclusion and it followed her. Not only could she touch and feel its body,other people could see it. A servant bringing her tea asked if the monk with her would like some tea too. And people greeted him when they went out together. He came from her thoughts! She admits she couldn't control it, that it had a volition of its own, her creation. It would stop, look at where it was going, examine the distance,etc. Something very interesting happens. When she created him, she gave him full cheeks and a jolly face. But after a few months the face changed, became lean. She said his eyes grew mocking and malignant. Which gives me plenty of clues as to what happened there exactly. That's how advanced Tibetan Buddhists are in using thought forms. And Magic and Mystery in Tibet is an account of the woman's expericnes in Tibet in 1924!
Methinks you should stop wanting me to draw Buddist parallels with ecery single unimportant detail in Grail. Its major ideas are borrowed from various Buddhist philosophies, and 'Christianity' is modified to fit into that.

What on earth kind of nightmare figure is that? James Cameron? What's the movie about?