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Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:47am On Jan 22, 2022
Hello Mykhel

You can get the list of documents here from the timeline of approved applicants..

For Finances, if yoru school is outside Quebec, you are expect to have your Total Tuition fee + $10,000CAD... For instance, if your Total tuition fees is 30KCAD, it means you are required to have at least 40kCAD in your account.. But if you are married, you must have more than 40K cos
you will need to have funds to take care of the family you are living behind..

So in such situation, to be on a safer side, you can have 50kCAD... Miscellaneous expenses are also included..

Peace
Mykhel10:
Good morning guys
So I got admitted into NBCC and sask poly. But would be opting for sask poly.

However, I want to know what I should put into consideration as I’m would be sponsoring myself. This includes documents, expected financial balance and all. Although im expected to make a down payment of $10,000 CAD first which is what I’m working on currently but with regards to requirements for VISA process so I can get an approval I need heads up from
experienced people here @frankrobbin @makano @keitiema please I need your help
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 12:41pm On Jan 20, 2022
Hello Blaza

In relation to the bolded, if your resumption date isn't valid and you have an updated LOA, I will advise you submit it if you haven't done so..

or IRCC to have contacted your school as regards your resumption date, it shows they need updated information of your resumption date..

Peace
Blazca:
Thank you @makano

I keeo sending mails and keep getting generic responses. And I got my gcms note 2 weeks ago and it said nothing about any documents being required.

My eligibility is recommend interview, they also contacted my school to confirm my resumption date.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:02am On Jan 20, 2022
Hello hdior

For a study permit applicant or an international student in Canada that wants the family to join, a visiting permit application is for the Kids, while a spousal permit application is for the spouse..

But if you are not a study permit applicant, and you want your child to go study in Canada, then a study permit application is required..

Peace
hdior:
Hello house, please for my study permit application, what sort of VISA am I to apply for my 3 year old accompanying me? Visitor's or Study permit?

Thank you.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 10:57am On Jan 20, 2022
If you can use Bsc to apply for a Master degree, why can't PGD be used?

So your answer is Yes..


Peace
emmalextemtop:
Hello!
Can one use Ontario Graduate Certificate (PGD) to apply for Masters Degree in cad?
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 10:56am On Jan 20, 2022
Yes, you will need to submit your Statement of Account, its a required and compulsory document..

Peace
hayoBams:
Good morning everyone,

For a deed of gift do I also need to submit my statement of account in which the money was transferred to. Or all I need is to present the deed of gift only
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:06pm On Jan 19, 2022
Hello Overcomer

Lemme just summarise this, you failed to convince the Visa officer that you are a genuine student who is going to Canada to study, you also failed to convince them that you would be returning back to your home country after your study in Canada..

Also you didn't explain how important or beneficial your proposed course of study is to your Career and also to the development of your Home country.. The financial aspect of your application too was weak.. In summary, your SOP and LOE were Vague..

Now that you just started working, I won't advise you to apply immediately, sit down, take your time and strategize on how you can convince the visa officer of their refusal concerns as regards your application. Work on your funds, Work on your SOP and LOE and make sure you have the necessary documents to back up your claims this time...

You can go through the Approval timelines to see the documents the successful applicants submitted for their approved application..

Peace
Overcomer1234:
Please I need your advice towards my reapplication, I have attached my gcms notes and my delay reasons , I will appreciate positive responses on how to tackle these refusal reasons . First degree , mechanical engineering, going for masters , uni of Ottawa MEng. 25y/o. Ps I was unemployed when I submitted my application but I have a job now but no travel history ,Thank you
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 10:53pm On Jan 19, 2022
A big congrats to you and your family..

I cant just imagine the Joy this would have brought to your family..

And I am glad to be part of your success story, it has finally ended in praise..

Canada can't wait to receive their newest family..

Peace
NadeeFM:
Thank you everyone for the good wishes and prayers. I am very grateful.

This is the full detail of my application. It may be useful for someone here...

FAMILY APPLICATION- Study permit for myself and two children and Visit visa for Spouse

Timeline:
Application Submitted: 22nd July, 2021
Biometrics: 27th July, 2021
Upfront medical (family): 30th July, 2021
Medicals updated to passed: 5th August, 2021
Eligibility started almost immediately for me.
Eligibility for spouse and children: 19th October, 2021 (that was when I saw the ghost update)
Saw two other ghost updates on the 12th and 23rd of November
BVL & PPR: 25th November, 2021

What I did:
I prayed, I fasted and I trusted God to come through for us ….. and He did. When God says ‘Yes’, nobody can say ‘No’. I believe that very strongly.

Following @Makano’s advice read here, I started sending emails and webforms on the 21st of October (to all the IRCC offices I could lay my hands on their emails but later limited it to Nairobi, London and Lagos offices). I sent mails and webforms weekly oh…..there was a time I was sending daily. I’m sure they were tired of me but I didn’t care. I still sent the day before PPR came!

Finally, I read and read through this thread. My people, I got almost all the information I needed here. That is why I’m saying a big THANK YOU and GOD BLESS YOU to everyone that contributes on this platform.

I tailored my application after @goingforward’s testimony (Available on page 1) and replicated all the documents she used for her family application (as many as were applicable to my profile). Thank you oh @goingforward.

Documents Submitted:
ALL CIC DOCUMENTS

ACADEMIC DOCS:
Bachelor’s Degree Certificate and Transcripts
WAEC Result
NYSC certificate
Professional certification

PERSONAL DOCUMENTS:
Digital Passport Photo
Int’l passport pages with travel history
SOP (Written by me and edited by spouse). I followed the guidelines seen here of highlighting all refusal areas and answering the questions any VO may have.
Birth Certificate
Police Clearance Certificate
2 MBS sent (NGN and USD)
My CV
Employment letters
Pay Stubs for four months
Court Marriage Certificate
Newspaper publication for Change of marital name
Family Pictures
A document providing explanation of Funds for my study (Excel sheet)
Spouse Pension statement (Spouse is my sponsor)
Spouse statement of account (USD, NGN)
Property documents (2)

SCHOOL DOCUMENTS
Letter Of Admission
Confirmation of Acceptance email from my school
Receipt of Tuition deposit
IELTS result

CHILDREN- DOCUMENTS
ALL CIC Docs
Digital passport photo
Intl’ Passport with travel history
Birth Certificates
Previous term’s school results
Upfront inquiries about health insurance for my children (I had emailed the school about adding them to my insurance coverage and attached the email correspondence to their application)
More pictures


SPOUSE- DOCUMENTS:
CIC Docs
Digital passport photo
Intl’ Passport with travel history
Company Introductory letter
Pay stubs for last four months
Work ID card
Personal car documents

**Table of content was created for each section and referenced in the SOP.

Tips:
Read up on this platform
Take your time to prepare your documents
Follow in the footsteps of those that have gone ahead of us
Pray! Hmmnnn ….. Pray oh! God does things no man can do.

May this journey be favourable for us all in Jesus’ name.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 10:40pm On Jan 19, 2022
You Welcome

miimssss:
Thanks for this comprehensive explanation!
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 10:40pm On Jan 19, 2022
Congrats to you HHH3

So happy for you, and I am glad to be part of your success story....

Canada cant wait for you to shine bright like a diamond..

Peace
HHH3:
It is PPR guys.

August 22nd 2021 and first time Applicant.

PPR and Correspondence Letter came in around 12. 35 but I saw it around 2 this afternoon.

MBA Program at UCW. I started class since October and completed the Fall Term online. Winter Term started on the 10th January, 2022 but I had to apply for leave of absence because of the delay in Study Permit approval.

Please don't give up on yours, keep pursuing. I am over 40 and got it. Just keep your focus on Jehovah God in the process.

I came across this thread after my application and invitation to proceed on medicals. Medicals was updated since November 13 and I had to come here to understand if the delay in PPR was peculiar to me. From following examples here, I raised several web forms and sent emails (I stopped sending them since last week). I requested for GCMS Notes (I heard that for the first time here) but I guess I don't need that anymore. Few days ago, I sent a mail to my MP who hasn't replied yet. This is all God and I give Him all the glory.

I had encouragement from Makano and PapaObi when I needed to start using part of my funds wink

It has now ended in PRAISE to God.

DOCS
The Regular Online Forms
Land documents
Family Pictures
Letter of Explanation
Police Character Certificate
Statement of Account
Picture of ongoing building projects
Resume
Spouse's employment Letter
Pay Slip
Letter of Employment
Letter of Approval of Leave of Absence, and many more.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 4:01pm On Jan 19, 2022
Hello Blazca

Your application is not abandoned..

You need to take actions if truly you are tired of the wait, keep sending them mails everyday without getting tired or relenting..

Also order for your GCMS notes to know what is actually causing the delay, maybe they request a document which they have not notified you about, or they are really doing a thorough Background check on you, so many reasons for an application to be delayed..

So take actions until you get an update from them, your application is well past the Processing time..

It will end in praise..

Peace
Blazca:
Please. What can make someone's application to be abandoned since May?
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 3:50pm On Jan 19, 2022
Hello Miimsss

SOP - Statement of Purpose

An SOP is a letter addressed to the Visa Officer where the applicant talks about the purpose of why he/she is going to study in Canada. Points explained will dwell on
1. How the advanced study complements past academics and how it will brighten up the future career scope.
2. Financial capability of the applicant to finance studies & living costs,
3 Why Canada
4. Why the particular program and why the particular institution.. e.t.c

STUDY PLAN

This is a sub section in your SOP where you talk about your study plans in Canada..

Peace
miimssss:
Hello everyone,

Regarding visa application, what’s the difference between a study plan and SOP? Are they written in the same format ?
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 8:18pm On Jan 18, 2022
Hello mimidarling

Sorry for your refusal, its good to know you knowvthe next action to take..

You can use any of the 3rd party GCMS notes websites like gcmsonline and gcmsnotes.. Just Google them, and u will get tangible results...

Peace
mimidarling:
Hello, pls how do I apply for GCMS notes.. I got rejected today.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 7:52pm On Jan 18, 2022
Hello kokolanre

Guess you didn't pay the deposit fee or part of your school fees for the January Intake, cos if you did, they would have deferred your seat to a closer date..

Now them stating you are on the waiting list
means the intake for May is full, so if by any chance any of the May applicants do not pay their Deposit fee or part payment before the deadline given them, then there would be opening for applicants on the waiting list who are ready to pay.. So be hopeful..

And if May is still full, then you defer to September 2022 before that intake gets full too..

Them informing IRCC isn't necessary...


Peace
kokolanre123:
Good day Makano thanks for always below is the response i got after telling the school we cant make the Jan 13th deadline and choose the deferral option

Response:
Your deferral request to May 2022 intake has been received. Currently this intake is full. You are now on a May 2022 intake waiting list. An approval of a deferral request is not guaranteed and is dependent upon seats becoming available. We will contact you at a later date should any seats become available.
Please note that effective immediately, your seat for Jan 2022 intake will not be kept.
There will not be an updated Letter of Admission unless seats become available.
So my question is , Do we inform IRCC about the latest development ?
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:03pm On Jan 17, 2022
Hello Adwoa

Try any of the ontario colleges...

Peace
Adwoa816:
Good evening my dear friends. I am applying for post graduate diploma for my sister who studied BSC Business management with mathematics with a CGPA of 2.0 /4.0 . I have previously applied for business management programs at Humber college but She has been refused. Please what are some potential college we can apply to given her CGPA?
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:01pm On Jan 17, 2022
Hello Victoria

If you got a medical request, the it's 80% approval..

If you didn't get any Medical request, it's 80% refusal..

If you did an upfront medical which has been passed, then its a 50-50 thing..

In all, just be hopeful and positive..

It will end in praise..

Peace
Victoriaweb:
Hi guys, I submitted my application since May (upfront medicals) last year and last week IRCC sent me a correspondence letter (BVL) and till now no other update. Shout I expect a refusal letter or approval? Kind of worried why their decision is taking so long.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 10:55pm On Jan 17, 2022
Hello Jioke

Even though Medicals is valid for a year, considering you are travelling close to the exiring date of your medicals, I will advise you do another Medical examination to be on a safe side...

Peace
Jioke1994:
Hi ppr hopefuls!
@makano and others.
I did my medical last year April 22nd.
I'll travel by April 10th or 15th
Will I be allowed at d port of entry base on my medical?
Tnx 4 ur input.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 8:04pm On Jan 16, 2022
Hello Malone

When choosing a course of study,the most important thing to consider is if the proposed course is closely related to your 1st degree or Job description, also if the course will afford you benefits and opportunities In your home country and not if its lucrative or not in Canada.

When you apply for a course with that mindset and you go put it in your SOP that you choosing this particular course because its more lucrative in Canada, then you will be shooting yourself in the leg indirectly, cos the Visa officer expects you come back to your home country to come use what you have learnt from your study in Canada to benefit ot develope your home country...

Peace
Malone122:
Cc makano, lekiboboe ,Ketima and ever other experienced individuals please a comment would be appreciated
I need your “opinion” on this take please, which seems more lucrative to study in Canada
Business administration (international business)
Or
Business administration (marketing)
Any other suggestions on business related career pathways would be appreciated
NOTE — for a younger sibling first degree
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 7:56pm On Jan 16, 2022
Hello Emilo

Even jf the school requires it(which is not common with Canadian schools(, its not a requirement for study visa application..


Peace
Emilo:
Oh so IELTS is not compulsory? Especially if the school does not require it??
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 1:40pm On Jan 16, 2022
Hello Kokolanre

Please what question is that, I have too many Mentions, so it's kinda difficult to locate your question..

So please ask again, that is if no one has answered your question though..

Peace
kokolanre123:
Chief good evening , I asked you a question earlier pls help answer i beg of you
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 1:38pm On Jan 16, 2022
Good to know I answered your question in details..

Peace
bola01234:
You really broke it down 100%
Am saving for my sponsor asap
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 1:35pm On Jan 16, 2022
Hello Viewoliver

The question is straight forward..

If you want a monthly update for your application, whether it is being attended to or not.. click Yes

If you do not want a monthly update, but If you just want the necessary and important updates, then click No..

Peace
Viewoliver:
Happy Sunday gurus in the house!

Am confused on a particular question under my Account Profile on my Gckey account for study visa application.
There is a drop down arrow with two options: Yes and No.

The question goes as follows :
"Do you want monthly updates about your application?"

Please what is the correct option to select?
I notice it has been on "No" all this while.
Thank you for your prompt response.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 1:30pm On Jan 16, 2022
Hello Masterlee

Yes, you can inform the school that your refusal is a reason why you wanna defer, and you will love to defer to a closer date so you can use the LOA to re-apply for your study permit Visa..

Peace
Masterlee13:
Goodday my fellow nairaland family.


I want to ask that if my visa got denied and I want to defer my admission do I need to tell the school that I got denied as a reason for deferring my admission or just simply tell them that my application is taking longer time to process sir/ma.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 8:26pm On Jan 15, 2022
Hello Creativeowos

First, thanks for the compliments..

To your question, documents are submitted when you apply for your study permit application i.e immediately you click on the payment button, your application (which includes your documents) has been submitted and received by IRCC... And it is after this you receive a request to go do your biometrics, this is if you are 1st time applicant though..

Although documents are also submitted after the submission of your application, most of the time, they are documents specifically requested by IRCC... But 90% of documents are submitted while applying for a study permit application, and this is before Biometrics and Passport stamping..

Peace

Creativeowos:
Good evening everyone. @Makano weldone i must say u are doing a wonderful job.���
My question is this, I noticed people sharing their testimony on ppr are mentioning documents submitted, are those documents submitted during biometric or when they will send their passport for stamping ? . Am still awaiting appointment for my biometric
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 2:03pm On Jan 15, 2022
Hello Mofolam

The bolded docs are no more compulsory, especially IELTS.. Many applicants still submit MBS cos of its flexibility compared to printed SOA, But its not compulsory as some applicants still submit the printed SOA cos not all banks provide the MBS service.. So if you submit a printed SOA its still very much allowed...

Peace
Mofolam:
Haa. Pls I have been away from nairaland for a long while. I’m seeing that someone got just ppr this Jan and he/she applied since may2021; even with ielts result and 1 yr MBS. Pls my question is : have things changed? 1yr MBS and ielts result used to be grounds for fast processing of study visa.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 1:56pm On Jan 15, 2022
Congrats to you Olamiteni

I am glad to be part of your success story, to God be the glory..

It has finally ended in praise..

Canada can't wait for you to explore ...


Peace
Olamiteni:
my people.. God is good o
this application is just the mercy of God that i got
i am a first time applicant

Timeline.
Application submitted: September 07
Biometrics: September 09
Request for medical: December 10
Medical passed: December 22
Correspondence letter: December 24
Passport Request: January 14

Documents submitted.
IMMI forms
1. Bank statement of my father
2. Reference letter from my father’s Bank
3. Contract of sale of land and deed of agreement for a recently sold property
4. Sponsorship letter by my father
5. Identification documents of my father
6. My personal bank statement (MBS)
7. My salary account
8. Evidence of Tuition Deposit
9. Employment letter and Work ID
10. Valuation Report of my father’s assets in Nigeria worth
11. Letter of financial support from a co-sponsor
12. Statement of account of my co-sponsor
13. Identification Document of my co-sponsor
14. Letters of introduction from my places of work supporting my further study
15. Police Character Certificate
16. Certificate of registration of my father’s business
17. Birth Certificate
18. Family pictures over 17 years ago
19. Statement of purpose

its not easy oo but i thank My dear friends i met here @makano, @ketima and every other person that guided me, God bless you and my personal adviser @jermaie009.. thank you.
my school is Cape Breton University Sydney Nova scotia, May intake.
To all PPR expectant, it will end in praise.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 1:50pm On Jan 15, 2022
Hello Atigba

If you read to understand, you would realise I never mentioned that the moniker must pay for living expenses..

What I said was that the sponsor should show commitment by paying part or full school fees and the funds for living expenses should be transferred to the account of the applicant....

How will you pay for the living expenses of a country you haven't entered yet.. The sponsor should put in the funds into the applicant's account and clearly state it in his Letter of Sponsorhip....

Please let's be guided..

Peace
Atigba:
Is it compulsory you must pay your living expenses before you apply for visa.

Part payment of tuition should be enough.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 6:18pm On Jan 14, 2022
Hello DonAmos

Just simply send a reminder message to IRCC that you have done a medical examination that is still valid and has been submitted before..

Make sure you put in your UCI and application number in the content of your mail to them, and most importantly, attach the E-medical sheet to your email.. It should be updated to pass within a week after they ,just have received your mail.

Peace
DonAmos123:
Good evening house. I got a medical request today but when I submitted my application in November I submitted an upfront medical that is valid till April this year.

I DON’T KNOW IF I SHOULD DO ANOTHER MEDICAL. THIS IS MY 3rd APPLICATION.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 6:13pm On Jan 14, 2022
Hello Dfad

This is an easy refusal reason to tackle, order for your GCMS notes and when you have it, you can drop it here..

The knowledgeable one sin the house will guide you..

Peace

dfad:
@frankrobbn1

Kindly get across to me.

I need your input, i just got served a refusal letter.

I am new here, i do not know how nairaland works.

i was refused on this grounds.

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in
subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on your personal assets and financial status.

Thanks
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 6:11pm On Jan 14, 2022
Congratulations RukkyAdenike on your PPR, all glory to God..

You are welcome, I am glad to be part of your success story..

It has finally ended in praise..

Peace
RukkyAdenike:
*PPR*alert/ Application timeline.

I am new to this platform and I've been a silent reader. Though I didn't know of this platform when I applied, since when I joined in December, I've learnt a lot from people here.
Thank you @makano for answering my question that day, I really appreciate. I got my ppr that same day so I didn't later do as suggested.
Here goes the timeline:
First time applicant

Submitted application in August 22, 2021
Did biometrics in August 26, updated the same day.
I didn't do an upfront medicals because I want to know how far my application has gone. I heard that if you are sent a medical request, then you are 80 percent to getting your visa.
So the wait began after biometrics.. I didn't think about it much because I don't want to have hbp grin though I continue praying. I didn't even bother checking my portal.
Got a medical request exactly 2 months later- October 22, 2021.
Did my medical exam Nov 9, updated to pass Nov 15.
Then the wait again.
I waited the remaining of November and the whole of December.
Got PPR on January 5th, 2022, Alhamdulillah.

Documents submitted:
- The 3 IMM forms
- LOA (unconditional) stating the partial scholarship I got.
- 4 months bank statement of my uncle and Mum each. None was up to 10 million naira, though there was active transactions on both.
- My SOP. I tried to be as honest as possible with it. It was just a page.
- Passport photograph
- international passport.

For people still waiting for ppr, it will come soon. Just don't stop praying. There is nothing prayer cannot do. It's not about the millions of naira you have in your account that does it, but God's grace.

Have a good evening y'all.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:02am On Jan 14, 2022
Amen.

You are welcome Jioke

How are we washing your Visa? grin

It has ended in praise.

Peace
Jioke1994:
I sight u boss.
Tnx a lot ooo
U are one of a kind.
God bless u plenty.
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 11:00am On Jan 14, 2022
Hello bola

The sponsor simply showed total committment to the study and living expenses of the applicant, all through the applicant's stay in Canada..

The sponsor paid full school fees, transferred the full living expenses to the account of the applicant and some extra funds..

The sponsor drafted a Letter of sponsorship to explain all this with evidence and also an Affidavit of sponsorship... The sponsor had in the past sponsored the said applicant, so I advised the applicant what the sponsor needed to do and she listedned and got her Visa at the end of the day..

Mind you, they didnt do any of this in the previous refused application, they thought cos they had 50Million naira, the Visa officer should know there is plenty of money... Which is a very wrong assumption...

So to the Millionaires in the house, do not assume that the Visa Officer seeing millions in your account will automatically give you Visa cos you have money..
You must do a break down of the availability of the funds for your study and also total commitment to your studies all through your stay in Canada..

Like I always say, Its one thing to have Billions in your account, its another thing to show and convince the Visa Officer that the said Billions will be available and totally committed to your studies...

This is Canada study Visa Application and not UK study application..

Peace
bola01234:
Sir kindly explain what you mean
Untill when the applicant did the right thing with the 30m
Travel › Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 20 by makano: 8:54pm On Jan 13, 2022
Hello amila

Staying back depends on you,

If you wanna stay back after your one year study, you would have applied for an extension of your study permit with the LOA of another one year course of study, this will actually qualify you for more years of PGWP....

But if you love to come back to your beloved country Nigeria, after your 1 year study, you can wave Canada bye bye and take the next flight to the giant of Africa..

The choice is yours..

Peace
amila20042001:
A quick question please. Thanks guys in advance for your prompt answers.

If one embarks on a one year graduate certificate program in Canada. What are the chances of staying back after graduation and getting a job offer?

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