₦airaland Forum

limeta:
They not zoogerians you just can't kidnapp any of them and get away with it .
Cow government kidnapping people off the streets is not a wise thing to do.

fozapi:
Keep dreaming, buhari have few years to go, but I don't get it why do you want to live with me, I don't want you, I hate you, let us go our separate ways oh and we will eventually

Shokoloko:
HERE ARE SOME IGBO WORDS IN OLAUDAH EQUIANO'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY BOOK.

Sources:
✓ THE LIFE OF OLAUDAH EQUIANO OR GUSTAVUS VASSA THE AFRICAN WRITTEN BY himself published in 1837., Ohafia, Agbaja, Onitsha, Abor, Nri etc). From page 16;


5. Eboe- An anglicized form of "Igbo". From page 17;
"...The West India planters prefer the slaves of Benin or Eboe, to those of any other part of Guinea, for their hardiness, intelligence, integrity, and zeal..."
The Igbos during pre colonial era paid tributes to the Benin kingdom –which means they were subjects to the Oba of Benin–
"...our subjection to the king of Benin was little more than nominal ; for every transaction of the government, as far as my slender observation extended, was conducted by the chief or elders of the place..." - page 9

Igboid:
What are you on about?

Igbo ukwu artifacts belongs to Igbo people because the people were able to identify their uses and even one of them had the "Ichi" scarification mark on it.

Igbo as ethnicity the way we see it today is a political organization. But that doesn't mean there was not an "Igbo" identity before Europeans came on board.
The igbo concept is understood by ancient Igbo as a name to call their neighbors who speak similar dialects but not themselves.
I call my self "Onye Ogidi" and call an Awka man that ventures into Ogidi "Onye Igbo". When I leave Ogidi and get to Awka, Awka people will call me "Onye Igbo" while calling themselves "Ndi Awka".
But if someone whose dialect is not Igbo comes to Awka, they would never call such person "Onye Igbo", because they understand the Igbo concept as someone speaking a related dialect to their own Awka dialect.

Olauda Equiano book is probably the oldest book on Igbo people and he identified himself and his people as Igbos.

MajorLeaguePlay:
Equaino wasn't even ibo. If his story is to be believed at all he was Etsako, in Present day Edo state. As is widely known, it is claimed that he's from "Essaka in the Benin Kingdom". But as usual, our brothers hijacked the story and someone claimed everything for themselves.

gawu1:
The hunchback albino porn star has been captured.

fozapi:
Simplyleo onionbandit Erasethedot NorthRules9ja MalcoImX sarrki what do you think about the video, I see alot of men in camp training


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-m1BWqiWE

falcon01:
you can't arrest 2 adults for having consensual Sex it's not a crime in the constitution if it's indeed a crime show me where it says so.

Igboid:
What are you on about?

Igbo ukwu artifacts belongs to Igbo people because the people were able to identify their uses and even one of them had the "Ichi" scarification mark on it.

Igbo as ethnicity the way we see it today is a political organization. But that doesn't mean there was not an "Igbo" identity before Europeans came on board.
The igbo concept is understood by ancient Igbo as a name to call their neighbors who speak similar dialects but not themselves.
I call my self "Onye Ogidi" and call an Awka man that ventures into Ogidi "Onye Igbo". When I leave Ogidi and get to Awka, Awka people will call me "Onye Igbo" while calling themselves "Ndi Awka".
But if someone whose dialect is not Igbo comes to Awka, they would never call such person "Onye Igbo", because they understand the Igbo concept as someone speaking a related dialect to their own Awka dialect.

Olauda Equiano book is probably the oldest book on Igbo people and he identified himself and his people as Igbos.

falcon01:
Which she consented to?? Which case is there again?? How are they rapist?? Naea for una oo shes a fool they are perverts and took advantage of her foolishness.

Igboid:
Igbo ukwu artifacts belongs to the Igbo.
How did we know?
Because all the ancient artifacts found there, the Igbo natives were able to tell it's use in the past. Igbo ukwu artifacts even have "Ichi" Igbo marks on their faces.

As for how old the word Igbo is. It's as old as the Igbo people.
In Igboland, you identify by your clan name while the next clan is called "Igbo".
It doesn't mean you are not Igbo, it just means you can not be Igbo in your own native land. You are only Igbo outside your own native land.

And you are not serious on the bold. You are not Igbo and obviously in no way equipped for this conversation. I'd advise you stay in your own lane.

fozapi:
Meanwhile the militants on nairaland like Simplyleo onionbandit sweetshisha Tinubuadvocate MalcoImX sarrki were not invited, what do you have to say about it

fozapi:
Fulani boy even pidgin you no fit speak, stick to the small small English way you know.

samunaka:
No wonder they have great affinity and soft touch for Atiku Abubakar, blood is thicker than water

mekaboy:
The guy is just an online warrior, for the fact that he tries to debate, means small sense still remain for him head.

The other ones will just curse and make threats. But they will soon be rounded up.

Shokoloko:
Still researching... quite interesting

If I[i]gbo-Ukwu art[/i] was carbon dated to the 9th century AD, then the Igbos of Nigeria existed in Igboland before the 1644 map was made.
I believe the Ijaw elder Opigo must have admired the Cameroonian name so much he decided it was fit to call the Igbos "Biafrans"

The Meaning of Igbo

"The outlook on Nigerian politics which gives primacy of place to ethnic boxing matches, particularly between the big three tribes, simply refuses to face up to such realities of Nigerian politics. Even when a distinguished scholar, with a world stature, like the late Professor Kenneth Onwuka Dike, points out that these ethnic groups of Nigeria, like the Igbo are recent formations, this is almost completely ignored, because it goes so much against the grain. But what Audrey Smock found out during his field work on the politics of ethnic unions in the Eastern Region, conforms with what Dike has brought out.

In a book written with Felicia Ekejiuba, titled, The Aro of South -Eastern Nigeria, 1650-1980: A Study of Socio-Economic Formation and Transformation in Nigeria, published in 1980, they brought out that: ... it is often forgotten, or merely mentioned in the footnote, that Igbo is a modern ethnic category which many of the constituent groups have only recently and often reluctantly accepted as their ethnic identity, often on political and administrative grounds. During the period covered by our study, the now twelve million or more ‘Igbo’ distributed over 30,000 square miles of territory east and west of the Niger were variously referred to either as cultural groups (e.g. the Nri, Isuama, Ezza, or Otanzu), or by the ecological zones in which they are found (e.g. Olu or Oru i.e. the riverain people or Adagbe, people of the flood plain); Enugu, people who live on the hills, Aniocha, people who live on heavily leached and eroded solids; Ohozara, peopleof the savannah; or as occupational groups such as Opi egbe (people who fashion guns), Ndiuzu or Umudioka (blacksmiths, artists and carvers).

And that:

Since Igbo waa used at this time pejoratively to refer to the densely populated uplands, the major sources of slaves, and by extension to slaves, it is not surprisingly that many of these groups have been reluctant to accept the ‘Igbo’ identity.(p.6)

Igbo migration, settlement and intermarriage into, and, at, all nooks and corners of Nigeria and all parts of West, Central and Southern Africa, has even made this identity broader and more fluid. It is no longer a question of when, or, whether, the Ikwerre, the Onitsha, the Asaba and the Ika are Igbo, but where to draw the line between this Igbo and the other ethnic groups of the Rivers and Bayelsa States, for example where according to the 1952 census the Igbo constituted about 40% of the population, of Rivers Province, forming the largest single ethnic group."

Dr. Bala Usman

mekaboy:
FELA KETU had no means of defence, but would stand up to the military regime.

That tramadol and guns kanu provided for ikonso and the rest, why didnt he get them for himself and fight the military with it?

Shokoloko:
The origin of the name is settled, however that does not indicate the origin of the Igbos of Nigeria. Just as we have Lagos in Portugal and Lagos in Nigeria. While Lagos in Nigeria has a lot of Portuguese influence we both know that the people of Lagos state did not originate, have no relation with the people of Lagos in Portugal, even though that was the origin of the name

So how do you marry the origin of the name Biafra to the origin of the Igbos? We cannot assume that two cities (eg Memphis in Tennessee, and Memphis in Egypt) means that there was a massive migration

fozapi:
It simply means fulanis own no land in the north

Brimstone77:
sorry but I couldn't read the long epistle..


If the ancient bini kingdom is in that map probably the Oyo kingdom must be there as well.. because these are old kingdoms that exit even before the arrival of the Europeans..


So indicate Oyo kingdom or sokoto caliphate in that map you shared..

Shokoloko:
Awesome. However I was looking for a document that is not so blatantly described as presumed and projected
I want something factual

fozapi:
I asked you a simple question and you are running around like a headless chicken

Brimstone77:
being intelligent by half is really dangerous...


Op can you show us the exact location of the African continent in the first map you shared??


And also indicate the location of yorubas and hausas in the map you shared..

Do you no how the name Biafra was adopted? Before ojukwu declare the state of Biafra was ndi igbo known as biafrans??


During the period that the said map you agreed was drawn were the Igbo been referred to as biafrans...??

The Definition of Yoruba

What, for example, is a Yoruba in Nigeria in this first year of the 21st century?

Is it someone who can prove his descent, genetically, from Oduduwa, with a genealogical tree and, or, the results of a DNA test? Or, is a Yoruba somebody who can prove his belonging, by birth to a lineage, or, a clan, which belongs to one of the polities, which have come to be called Yoruba?

What does this "belonging” here mean? Or, is a Yoruba someone who is recognized by one of the Obas wearing a beaded crown as a Yoruba? Or, is a Yoruba someone who speaks the Yoruba language as his first language and takes part in cultural and social practices, which are now called Yoruba? Or is a Yoruba someone who others who claim to be Yoruba accept that he is Yoruba? Or, is a Yoruba someone who, Senator Abraham Adesanya, the Leader of the Yoruba, recognize as Yoruba?

In the context of the racist politics which Afenifere is practicing and advocating for the rest of Nigeria, when it comes to a Sovereign National Conference, based on representation from ethnic groups, many of the prominent advocates of a confederation, or, the dismemberment of Nigeria, so that the Yoruba, for example, can control their own resources, like Bolaji Akinyemi, will find that their Yorubaness will be challenged. When the ancestry of the Leader of the Yoruba, before Adesanya, the late Chief Adekunle Ajasin, was challenged by Chief Ojomo in Owo, there was, in response to that challenge, a resounding silence!

The fact is that, the earliest record we have of the use of the very name “Yoruba” was in the Hausa language and it seems to have applied to the people of the Alfinate of Oyo. This came from the writings of the seventeenth century Katsina scholar, Dan Masani (1595-1667), who wrote a book on Muslim scholars of the “Yarriba”. But it was from a book of the Sarkin Musulmi Bello, written in the early nineteenth century, that the name became more widely used.

The Bishop Ajayi Crowther, the Reverend Samuel Johnson, and his brother Obadiah Johnson, among others, came, in the nineteenth century, to widely spread this Hausa name to the people who now bear it, in their writings. Other names, like “Lukunmi” “Aku”, “Nago” and “Anago” are applied to the same people, but the name “Yoruba” has come to prevail, ...

These people, who the dissemination of the written form of Standard of Yoruba, derived from the Oyo dialect, has given a level of common identity, actually speak about twenty dialects. Some of these dialects were barely mutually intelligible. The twenty dialects are, according to some linguists: Bunu, Ife, Ijesha, Ondo, Owo, Igbena, Gbedde, Akono, Ilaje, Awori, Ila, Ijebu, Oyo, Yagba, Egba, Ekiti, Aworo, Ijumu, Kalae, and Owe.

fozapi:
Mention one fulani state in the North? You are a minority

Misterone:
Since you came out with this trash, lets use the trash to destroy you. you say the portuguese claim Igboland belongs to the Benin kingdom. It therefore means that the Benin kingdom own Igboland. The Oba of Benin has not approved any part his kingdom to be named Biafra. Mamudi kanu wants to claim what does not belong to him. The Benis own Biafra land

fozapi:
But the fulanis are landlocked senselocked in the north

Brimstone77:
being intelligent by half is really dangerous...


Op can you show us the exact location of the African continent in the first map you shared??


And also indicate the location of yorubas and hausas in the map you shared..

Do you no how the name Biafra was adopted? Before ojukwu declare the state of Biafra was ndi igbo known as biafrans??


During the period that the said map you agreed was drawn were the Igbo been referred to as biafrans...??

Thereddevil:
I think the op needs to tell us the link to that map.. I can't see nigeria on it.. Could it mean Biafra existed before Nigeria?

Shokoloko:
Thanks for tagging me. May I have a link to the source? I'd like to research the reference quoted for this write-up

Shokoloko:
I look forward to it. Thank you

YouWillNotWin:
Oh, you have this Pearl of information about the origin of the igbos , but you are unable to provide us with at least a teaser, you know , like a few sentences before the main event this weekend ?

You should do more comedy - LMAO

Jokers everywhere.