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Kei144:
A Lebanese Muslim posted the following on an American forum:

I do everything a good muslim should do, I pray, I fast, I dont drink, I dont do drugs, I dont lie or cheat

But Im afraid when I die it will turn out the Christians or Jews were right, will a Christian or Jewish God still let me enter Heaven if I was a good person?

If the Hindus are right then I dont want to live

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2662623/pg1

http://www.itshidden.eu/proxy/browse.php?u=GRvtjukaiE%2BQjx1B2YhpabM7HsQ5xu7UHGr6PkpoJjzSzs7Lv44CqEfKwxNaE99yIs9MwTrxuA%3D%3D&b=13

you see,in this world,there are many religeons,in this religeons there are many good people in it,but your good work cannot save you,you must accept the word of God to be save,how can God judge you base on your good deed? This is
devilish doctrine, for example, if a man kill one of your love's one, and
he was arrested and taking to court, on the day of his trial , he said to the judge "hey judge , I know am gulty of the crime I commited but
please judge , i'v done many good things in my life , I don't deserve
this punishment please, and the judge consider his good deed he has
bein doin before, and freed him," WILL YOU CALLED THE JUDGE A GOOD
JUDGE?" my bible said, our GOD IS A GOOD JUDGE.SALVATION IS FREE.

Abdulsalam20:
*jesus pray by owing down his head christian pray by dancing
singing and drumming(pls how many christian bow down their
head)
*jesus forbid women to talk in church but now christians
organise choir infact ladies are now pastors
*jesus leave his beard no christian do that only muslims do that
but the only thing christian do is to laugh at them
*jesus forbid charging of interest when we try to establish
islamic banking with interest free loan can oppose it
*jesus order female to cover their hair if u go to churches you
will see women with their hair open some with handkechief and
some with hat which only cover half of the hair when
aregbesola raise the issue of using hijaab in osun state schools
infact he didnt say it is compulsor he said who so wsh......but
unfortunately can opposed it....infact in lagos state it is yet to
be implemented due to can disagreement
*jesu worship the one and only true god but you mis inter pret
him now you are worshiping three gods
*it is clear in the bible that we should to go hajj(mekkah) and
that jerusalem is no more holy bt you people feel reluctant i
created a thread for it nobody could defend it what they do is
to derail
*jesus surrender to god totally but u didnt u associate partner
with god
*jesus forbid eating pork most christian eat it but only mslims
never eat it
*jesus is a prophet of god but you call him god(i have already
prove this for u
jeus isnot dead but u say he is dead please check my profile for
detail

#jesus circumcised on the eigth day only muslim do that christians never

jesus say we should nt eat pork only muslim dont christian eat pork





all christian are antichrist only muslim are the true christian we are even christian more than the christian them selve............defend your false religion and reply malvisguy

when the satanic verse were reaveal,muhammad bow together with the pagan.dos that mean the pagan are muslims?,this will be my last reply to you.

MUHAMMAD AS A PROPHET Muhammad’s father’s name was AbduAllah (Abdullai) and his mother’s
name was Aminah. His grandfather’s name was Muttalib. They were
idol worshipers. A careful study of islam brought by Muhammad
reveals that it is a continuation of his father’s idol worship even
though they said islam is against any form of idol worship. Islam is not
idol worship on the pages of quran but it is in truth and practice. Let us examine islamic mode of worship: 1. TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND
MARWA Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual
associated
with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located
at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the
two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelations. Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik:
"Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?"
He said, "Yes, AS IT WAS
THE CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE
TILL Allah REVEALED 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al- Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him
who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to
perform Tawaf between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710)
You can see from the above hadith that what was being practiced by
idol worshipers before islam was incorporated into it. I mean islam continues with the ways of idol worshipers. 2. REQUIREMENT OF IHRAM
Ihram is a state a Muslim enters into for his pilgrimage to Mecca. It
involves a series of procedures like ritual washing, wearing 'Ihram
garments', etc. Ihram was originally a pagan requirement for
worshipping idols during pre-Islamic times. Muhammad retained this
practice for Islam. Muslims assume Ihram to perform the Hajj or Umrah. Narrated 'Urwa: I asked 'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine inspiration was
revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume “Ihram” for
worshipping an idol called “Manat” which they used to worship at a
place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever
assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform
Tawaf between Safa and Marwa. (Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706)
They continued their pagan ways of worship even when they
embraced islam. 3. PRAYING 5 TIMES TOWARDS MECCA Pagans prior to
Islam would pray five times per day towards Mecca.
Muhammad retained for Islam, this pre-Islamic practice, sanctioning it
with a story of a night trip to heaven on a mythical beast called al- Buraq. In heaven, the Hadith tells us that Allah demanded 50 prayers
per day per Muslim. Upon advice from Moses, Muhammed bargains
with Allah and successfully reduces it to five prayers per day.
Zoroastrians are also expected to recite their (kusti) prayers at least
five times a day.

Abdulsalam20:
i have answered and my brothers also have answer it so what else did i want to say mr antichrist read all my post if you want to learn

i say the quran did not state the reason of mary virgin birth,instead of you to prove me wrong,you bring a difference subject about elijah.
Thank you for your time,have a nice day.

Abdusalam20.replying you is a wast of time,you dont know how to debate,i state that the quran did not give reason of the virgin birth,what you type is difference,way out of line,when you want to debate stay on one subject let discuse it before moving ,if you cant do it,please dont reply me.thank you

ArtanK:
I'll repeat everything is from Allah including the spirit of Jesus Christ. That itself explains "a spirit from Him" because it was created by Allah.

Islamic Scholars often compare the creation of Adam with the creation of Jesus Christ simply because both of them were created in an unusual way. He says to it: ‘Be’ and it is!” (Qur'an 40:68). Jesus Christ is the word of Allah and his spirit was from Allah. There is no need to change the meaning of this verse.

You are vehemently trying to force your opinion when verse 4:171 denies that Jesus is the Son of God but affirms that Jesus is the word of Allah.

"And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son."
You have done an atrocious thing.
The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation
That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.
And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.
There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant."
[Qur'an 19:88-93]

Say, "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone." [Qur'an 18:110}

you are trying to say allah created his own spirit.if we are to agree with you.then adam shuld be called word of God.in the bible the reason of the virgin birth was giving to mary.

Luke 1:30-35: And the angel said to her: “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold! You will conceive in your
womb and bear a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and the Lord
God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule as
king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his
kingdom.” But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am a virgin?” In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you and POWER of the Most High will OVERSHADOW you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy — the Son of God.”

but in the quran the reason of mary virgin birth was not giving to her,what the angel was trying to say was"have you forgoting how allah created man?any he created he say BE and it is"

Surah 3:45-47: Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the
son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of
(the company of) those nearest to God…She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a
plan, He but saith to it, ‘BE,’ and it is! (Yusuf Ali)
what the angel is saying is the virgin birth is God manifest his creative work.
To deny that God does anything without a purpose behind it amounts
to a denial of God himself. (Surah 38:27) In the Qur’an, it is the very absence of such a clearly defined purpose in the unique conception of
Jesus, which perplexes the seeker of truth as to the meaning behind
this miraculous birth. Being born of a virgin-woman, Jesus had an exceptional and unique beginning to his life on earth. As he was the
only man in all human history to come into the world in this unusual
way, we cannot be satisfied with the Qur’an’s summary declaration
that it was no more than just an exercise of God’s power. The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth of Jesus was simply a manifestation of God’s power.
Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what He will. If he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! And it is.” (Pickthall).

The truth of the matter is that the virgin-birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the
Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is
without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning
or purpose. God will not do this witout a reason,he want us to adopt the nature of godliness in jesus so that we will be sinless like him.

Abdulsalam20:
I BELIEVE IN CHRIST MORE THAN YOU WE MUSLIM LOVE HIM WE RESPET HIM BECAUSE HE IS A PROPHET BUT WE NEVER WORSHIP HIM BECAUSE HE IS NOT GOD



BEFORE I PROVE YOU TO BE AN ANTICHRIST I WANT U YOU TO SAY IT AGAIN FOR ME TO VERIFY ARE YOU AN ANTICHRIST OR NOT?

do you know the meaning of christ?saviuor,save you from what?
Ignnorence muslims.

Abdulsalam20:
[b]


i will explain it to you BIUT FIRST OF ALL WHY ARE YOU MIS INTERPETING QURAN VERSE YOU ANTICHRIST FOLLOWER OF DEVIL
i will explain it to you
This verse prohibits the Muslims from asking about things they have no benefit in asking
about, because if such matters appear to them it may be harmful to them and it will be
difficult for them to hear it, like the person who asked the Prophet : ‘
‘Where is my father
(in the Hereafter)? The Prophet replied: ‘‘In Hellfire.’’, or the person who asked about
Hajj: ‘‘Is it every year, o Prophet of Allaah?’’, whereupon the Prophet replied: ‘‘No, and if
I replied by ‘yes’, it would become an obligation on you to perform it every year and you will
not be able to do so .’’
These examples are reported about the reasons for which the verse was revealed, and similar
to this are the questions asked just in order to mock the person or to ask rigid questions
without any benefit.
To conclude, this verse was revealed because of asking about things that have no benefit, or
because of asking too much, or asking in order to mock, or test someone or to argue with
him only for the sake of argument.
As regards asking the scholars about the matters of religion or asking people of experience
about beneficial things in this worldly life, then this is not included in the probation of asking [/b]

you called me antichrist,who are you? Are you for christ? Do you believe in jesus christ? All what you wrote is rubish.

ArtanK:
You are drawing your own conclusions here. This is the correct translation of that verse.

(171. O People of the Scripture! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah except the truth. Al-Masih `Isa, son of Maryam, was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit from ﴿created by﴾ Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three!'' Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One God, hallowed be He above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.)

What is meant by "His Word" is explained in this verse:

“It is He Who gives Life and Death: when He desires a matter, He says to it: ‘Be’ and it is!” (Qur'an 40:68)

Everything is from Allah therefore saying that the spirit of Jesus (peace be upon him) is from Allah is merely stating that Allah created everything (including the spirit of Jesus Christ).

The translation of the first verse is very simple and easy to understand unless one has got other motives to play around with it's meaning.

you have said nothing my friend,you say everyting that came out from allah ,he created it including THE SPIRIT THAT WENT OUT FROM ALLAH AND . dos this make sens to you? You are saying the same thing.
Which other prophet has this benefit? Can you give me the reason why allah jesus is called spirit of God?

islam is a religeon of blind faith,no one is allow to ask qustion just accept it with blind faith.From infancy Muslims are groomed to
abstain from questioning the tenents of Islam.

Surah 5:101-102: “O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble … Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.” (Yusuf Ali)


Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3, Number 92: Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet was asked about things which he
did not like, but when the questioners insisted, the Prophet got
angry.

The islamic faith start from a cave of hira,nobody witness it only muhammad,he saw a spirit and he was convincd that what he saW was a demon,it was his wife kadijah,a BUSINESS WOMAN that convince him it was an angel from Allah,YET MUSLIMS ARE TO BELIEVE WITHOUT ASKING QUSTION. So sad

Why did Allah and Muhammad discourage people from asking
questions? What is Islam trying to hide? Is blind faith the way to
Islam? Why did Muhammad become angry at those who asked him
questions? Why were people warned by Allah not to ask questions? How is that in Islam, questioning can lead to losing one’s faith? Does not this prove that even the right answers can lead to losing
one’s faith in Islam? Only an information control cult would discourage anyone from asking
questions. Is it rational to accept any one religion as the true religion
without investigating or questioning it? Surely not! Therefore, we will
now question Muslims about the teachings of Islam.

Abdulsalam20:
john 14;28
for the Father is
greater than I.

harden muslim,who say the word[jesus] is greater than the father[God]? the branch[jesus]came out from the root[God] they are one.common sens will tell you that the father is greater than the son.

Abdulsalam20:
all christian will rot in hell because they neber follow the way of jesus.....jesus is not a begotten son of god bit you can probe me wrong oooo antichrist in this thread

to reply you is a wast of time.you want to prove to me that jesus is a son of man? My friend i believe jesus is a son of man, the qustion is WHO IS THE MAN? ignnorence muslims with blind faith.

Rilwayne001:
Mr. Emusan

Why don't you just start from my post on the first page instead of jumping to page (1). The OP did not address it likewise malvisguy

Please let us start from there.

thank u

the qustion you ask has been answer,but your weak mind cannot understand,jesus say "i and my father are one".what dos this mean? It mean.....when a tree is grown,at the beginning it will have ONE Root[GOD] but when the tree keep on growing,it will produce branch[jesus] can you differentiate the tree from the branch?no,they are one. So when jesus [branch]say "our God is ONE GOD"he is making refference to God[root]

this is very simple to understand,but your harden mind will not comprehend it.the branch and the root are ONE AND IF YOU CONFESS JESUS YOU WILL BE AMOUNG THE TREE OF LIFE,YOU WILL BE CALLED THE FRUIT.

Emusan:
Oga Rilwayne001 you’ve done it again as usual, keep deceiving yourself and the like of you.



And you called this question



Did you know how your explanation creates a huge problem for Islamic teaching?



When you haven't educate yourself.



Actually, what most modern day Muslims say is that Jesus is a Word from God (Kalimat-Minhu), but one can ask, is it how Muhammad and his companions understood these verses? The answer is NO!

@bold-You said ”Whenever God decides to do something, like giving life or causing death, He says to it ‘Be’ and it is! BUT this contradicts below statement.



You know this and you can’t simply ask yourself, why was it necessary for Christ to be conceived in such supernatural fashion, when God had already put into motion the natural reproductive cycle of human birth? Why did God override his own laws of sexual reproduction and intervene personally by causing Jesus to be born from a virgin?

Hence, Christians do not believe that the virgin birth makes Jesus the Son of God. Rather, they believe that because Jesus is the Son of God he had to be born of a virgin.



Even though Quran says so, BUT why is it that nowhere in the Quran, or Hadith for that matter Adam ever called ‘Word from God’? I challenge you to give us JUST one verse from Quran, or Hadith where Adam was called ‘word from Allah’



Problem with this verse is that Allah created Adam FIRST FROM DUST which means Adam’s body was first formed BEFORE said to him ‘Be’, that implies Allah only impact life in Adam’s lifeless body YET in your below explanation you said Angel Jibril brought the soul of Jesus to Mary, are they similar?



@underline-I challenge you to give us a SINGLE VERSE in the Quran where it was written that Gabriel is the Spirit

@bold-So you agree that Gabriel can impart life like Allah does? because you said Gabriel brought the SOUL of Jesus...to BREATH it into Mary. But remember ONLY Allah can give life.
This is where you contradict yourself.
Since you said ’JUST LIKE other human souls..’, are Rilwayne001and all Muslims a word from God?



YET in the above and below explanations it is Gabriel that finally makes the decree NOT Allah.



Waoooo! This is where we are going, you said it is Gabriel that blew the SOUL which then makes Gabriel a being that possesses LIFE within himself. You may argue that Allah only permitted it BUT that makes Allah weak because it’s a thing Allah supposed to do without even send Gabriel JUST as Bible explained it ”The Holy Spirit will come upon you(Mary)...”[/u] can you see the difference? The Angel simply told Mary God will do it HIMSELF not him.



No! He came into existence by Gabriel’s word NOT Allah according to you.
Then how can God’s word be translated as created SOUL as you did in above?



Kalimatuhu refers to God's very own personal word, this is the very word Muslims hold for Quran itself then how can Jesus be just a word from God?



You only say Jesus is a spirit from God whereas Muhammad and some Muslims scholars believe that Jesus is The Spirit of God.

By comparing the two bolded statements to each other one can see how perverted you are.
How can [b]“a spirit proceeding from God” be translated “a soul created by God”? It’s very clear you know the truth but you just want to bend it.



Another time you agree that Gabriel is an agent of LIFE.



Imaging, what is honor and respect about this when you earlier said ”that more correctly ‘a soul created by God’” which will also make ALL HUMAN a spirit proceeding from God as you earlier stated ” his soul was created by God like other human souls”?



If you read the beginning of this verse with this phrase ”And when I have fashioned him...” we can then say Adam’s body was first created before LIFE was imparted into the body through the Spirit this is plausible But compare it with the account of Jesus where The Spirit incarnated/become a being in Mary’s womb that’s why Muhammad and some Muslims could call Jesus the very own Word and Spirit of God.

Muslims who called Jesus The Word and The Spirit of God.

1) Muhammad:
According to Anas, the Prophet said,...”Then he arranges for them to approach Jesus, the worshipper of God and His messenger, the Word of God and the Spirit of God. But Jesus will say to them,”... (Bukhari, Mishkat al-Masabih, Book 23, chp.12)

2) Ibn Arabi's statement is perhaps the closest acknowledgement any Muslim has ever made in relation to Jesus' Deity: "Surely," he said, "He has no equal. He is the Spirit and the Son of the Spirit, and Mary is His mother." (Quoted by Robert Payne in The History of Islam, p.83)

When we keep in mind that God is a Spirit (John 4:24) and Christ is the Spirit and the Spirit's Son, this makes Christ God, the Son of God!

3) M. A. Qazi in his Concise Dictionary of Islamic Terms, p. 57, relates:
"Ruh-Ullah – Spirit of God, A special title given by Prophet Muhammad (S. A.) to Jesus (A. A.)"

4) Mahmoud Ayoub, citing Tabarsi states: “Tabarsi argues that John was obligated by God to be a witness to the fact that Jesus was in truth the word of God and His Spirit” (2:109)

5) Muhammad Ayub's book, The Quran and Its Interpreters, vol. II. The House of Imran:
Tabari, an Islamic scholar quotes on the authority of Al-Suddi a debate between the Christians of Najran and Muhammad in which Muhammad was asked what he thought of Jesus, to which he answered: "He is the servant of God, His Spirit and Word." (p.184)

6) Dr. Hasbullah Bakry in his book Nabi Isa dalam Al-Quran ("Jesus the Prophet in The Quran" p.109 declares: "The Prophet Jesus is called 'Kalimatu Allah' (the word of God) because he is the incarnation of the word of God which was signaled to Mary to bear the Prophet Jesus."

Bakry’s statement agreed with the book of John 1:14 ”And The Word became flesh...”

The reason why you’re arguing this way is because of the perverted teaching of modern day scholars who have aware of the obvious problem this Titles posed to Quran in denial of Jesus’ divinity. Why? If Jesus is The word and Spirit of God and both Islam and Christian believe that God’s Spirit and Word are not created that makes Jesus uncreated and divine, so what they could do is to bring another false interpretation into those texts which someone like you can swallow up.

If Muhammad himself believed that Jesus is the word and the Spirit of God then who is wrong between two of you?

God bless you.

Mynd44:
I wish I knew.

If you have any complaints you can send me a PM

please,why do you guys have to transfer my thread to the islamic section? I beg you not to do it but still you transfer it,i was ban there since muslims visit the main religeon section,they can answer my qustion

FrancisTony:
Being a Christian as defined by pagans in Antioch means followers of christ(whether real or not).

have you been visiting website that are against christians?

Macelliot,dont stress your self.that is how it suppose be,without them the prophecy will not come to pass.the man of sin cannot dwell in a world of righeousness,first there must b falling aways to clear the way for the antichrist.

Many people are being lead astray,at first i thought it was only in the internet,everyday i see people qustioning God because wickedness has incress,they say"if there is God then why all this killing?"even me,i have know answer to this qustion,but one i know ,there is God and the wicked must pay for there wickedness.

Mynd44:
Why must this always be about me biko?

were is the complain thread?

abdulsalam20.
Man blood cannot wash the sin of adam because we all came from him ,it is only the blood of a sinless bein can do it,the problem is that no human is sinless,we all have sin,that is why jesus had to be born of a spirit of God and the reason he take on human flash is for him to die for our sin,as we all, know spirit cant die.

But the sin in ezekiel 20 is all about father and son,it not a universal sin.
adam sin is universal, he was the first man, the foundation of the
world start from him,any mistake from him will cost our foundation to
sink, psalm11:3"if the foundation is faulty, what can the righteous do?"
so the fall of adam sink our foundation.
Ezekiel18:20 is not a universal sin, it personal, it all about the father
and son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him: Isaiah 3:10 will fully explain this passage; it shall be well with the righteous,
for he
shall eat the fruit of his doing, he shall be rewarded as a righteous one.
The wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him; the reward of
wickedness, i.e. woeful punishment, shall be executed upon the
wicked, as Isaiah 3:11.

Xtarxhyne:
Allah Is d Arabic form of God...
Can u pls quote d verse of d Quran where d 72 virgin r stated?

yes.allah is the arabic name for God,but in the God called himself I AM THAT I AM.word the quran dont use.

Xtarxhyne:
Allah Is d Arabic form of God...
Can u pls quote d verse of d Quran where d 72 virgin r stated?

72 virgin was not mention,but it is clear that the islamic paradise is all about sex.

And [with them will be their] spouses, raised high: for, behold, We
shall have brought them into being in a life renewed, having
resurrected them as virgins —Quran, sura 56 (Al-Waqiah), ayat 34-36[32]

Quran Chapter 101 Surah Al-Qariah verses 6-11:
6 Then he whose balance (of good deeds) will be (found) heavy 7 Will
be in a life of good pleasure and satisfaction.

Rilwayne001:
Why are you shouting now

Lagoshia has already answered you „ but you canterkerous attitude or maybe your low IQ won't let you accept his answer.

Create your thread again.

Mumu

thank you for the insult.i leave everything in The hands of God.

lagosshia,rilwayn001,abdulsalam20. I was ban in the islamic section that why i could not reply you guys,lagosshia.all what you post are rubish but your ignorence muslims are prasing you,isaac already has the blessing of prophethood,the both of them cannot shere the same blessing,example is esau and jacob,even when esau pleaded for his blessing,isaac did not give the same blessing he gave jacob.maclantunji, why did you change the title of my thread? Who gave you permission to do such a thing? My father[God]is my witness. Mynd44 even when i beg you not to transfer my thread to the islamic section,still you did it.GOD WILL JUDGE,YOU GUYS CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT,IT IS YOUR TIME,BUT THE DAY IS COMING WHEN YOU WILL SAY"HAD I KNOW"

nobilis:
My oga, please what I will not tolerate from you is insults.
In that post that you quoted, I gave you instances of Christian practices that were copied from paganism. They're there. So I wonder how you will quote that post and still not understand what it is talking about.

Maybe I'm not the ignorant one here since obviously you didn't care to use the correct spelling for ignorance.

calling someone ignorence is a insult? Ok.accept my apology.

The hadith i post to was so clear every reader will understand.but what the op writte are misinterpretation of the word of God and some logic apply,but the hadith i post went straight to the point.

Slitz:
the original version if the bible is called the "Injil" and it is an article of faith in Islam that we believe in the messages of all the Prophets. The fact that the Quran is incorruptible is a Mercy from God because Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the last and final messenger..and so there would be no need for any other messenger..the Mercy of God to the earlier generations was that after the people forgot and corrupted the original message and followed their own desires God sent another messenger to help guide them back to the straight path..but lo behold you desire the fake when the message of the original keeps slapping you in the face...remember Heaven and Hell are the choices that we make.."the intoxication of death would bring the truth!"

satan inspire muhammad to speak what God has not commanded him to speak,that is what muslims called the satanic verse,deutoronumy18:19 say that prophet shall die,it is not surprisen that muhammad died of food poisioning.is this what you called uncurrupted word of God?there so many erro in the quran .saying muhamma is the last prophet is a lie from pit of hell.

nobilis:
If there is a religion that is worshipping idols, it is Christianity. Not Islam. If you look closely, Islam and Judaism worship One God not a Trinity. Trinity was not originally part of the doctrine of Christians, it was borrowed from many other religions, most notably, Egyptian paganism that had the Trinity of Horus, Isis and Osiris.

And so many other Islamic celebrations have their roots in Judaism. Unlike Christianity. Use of images in worship, drinking the blood and eating the flesh of God in order to gain eternal life, venerating the virgin birth of God, these practices did not start with Christianity. They were borrowed by Christianity. And there are so many others. It's so appalling that Christians are blind to these things.

why this ignnorenc? Can you show me a verse in the bible that say christians worship God the way pagan do? But it was soo clear in the hadith that a blind man can notice it.

haffaze777:
imi plac asta.it means I like dat(ur post about how Islam is pagan) but dats not a topic here,u can create a trend for dat if u want us to deliberate on dat.back to d topic now and leave Islam out of it

i reapeat,all what you wrote are lies mix with misinterpreteing the word of God,there is no verse in the bible that teaches christian worship the way pagan worship there god.but in the hadith.it is so clear for us to see.

Slitz:
I find it ludicrous that a Christian feels comfortable quoting the Quran at all..I mean common! u don't believe in Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) so for what reason are u quoting the msg with which he as been sent. A Muslim on the other hand blivs in Prophet Eesa(Jesus Christ) and in his message, so if a Muslim tells u with evidence that that message has been corrupted, der is evidence for that in the Incorruptible Quran..but u don't have any proof..so if you believe in a section of the Quran(wrongly) then you should be wise enough to accept the correction given to u, and thus believe in the remaining part of the message..
"Say! He is Allah(God) He is ONE"

when they say a book is currupted ,it mean the book is the word of God but men currupted it ,as we know a fake book cannot be thame curruptdd.my point is that,Allah promise to guid his word and non can change it,saying the bible is currupted mean Allah fail to guid the bible.

You said muslims believe in jesus.but the bible say even the demon believe in jesus.