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Apatheist:

what do you understand by command and worship?
You worship God willingly, but command is difference,sommeone command you like a robot to do something you dont want to do,but because is your duty , you'll do it.

op. It is only the unstable mind that will find the solution of hell, if it exist or not, as a believer it dosent matter, because it non of our[the elect] business,i know heaven and hell exist, but I SPEND TOO MUCH TIME KNOWING MORE ABOUT HEAVEN BECAUSE THAT IS WERE I BELONG, I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU. Jesus say think not about what you may eat tommorow for tommorow will think of it self, as a beliver , dont spend to much time on were you dont belong rether let your focus be on heaven.i'v never thought of if hell exist or not until i join nairaland,all my focus is making it to heaven. HELL EXIST OR NO, ONE THING FOR SURE NO SINNER CAN EXCAPE THE WRATH OF GOD[sorry athiest].

abdusalam20. I dont want to reply this thread because you post is to lengthy,if you want reply,summarise it let the viewer be able to read and understand.

Let start like this:can you Explain salvation in islam? Islam talk about good deed, can you bribe God with your good deed?

joedejana: My opinion; as long as there's No evil then No one will see any reason to worship God....This could also mean without evil/bad things and summarily SATAN....NO one will serve God, right?
Don't just view, comment

everything will be as it was from the begining when adam and eve has not yet disobey God.MAN WILL TAKE COMMAND FROM GOD LIKE A ROBOT,NO DISIERE TO WORSHIP GOD.

oyewolestephen: I can't just imagine the concept of JESUS DIE FOR OUR SIN, it is generally accepted that Jesus came from heaven to earth and when he died he returned back to where he came from (heaven) I believe God didn't loose anything, had if been he returned back to hell fire suffering there, the story would have been logical but the same Bible said God loose is only begotten son whereas according to is alleged omnipotent being he /she can easily forgive without taking any life. I am just confused I don't know who is fooling who.

God loose his only son? Who told you this? Were did you learn that?

John 3:16New International Version (NIV) 16 For God so loved the world that he GAVE his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Romans6:23. New International Version For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord. So my friend God give jesus to the world not loose.

Lordfranklin: so you mean God offered sacrifice with a human,how is that possible;

"the wages of sin is death, but The FREE GIFT of God is enternal through christ our lord"

to know who jesus realy is read .....
Colossian1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or
authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn
from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the
supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his
blood, shed on the cross. 21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of[g] your evil behavior. 22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight,
without blemish and free from accusation— 23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in
the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been
proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have
become a servant.

Dolemite: As an atheist can you marry a Christian, especially those of you in Nigeria where most people are religious, when I was a Christian we were warned never to be yoked with unbelievers, and it's hard to find a good looking guy who isn't a Christian, when you tell them you're a non believer they look at you like a devil worshiper.

P.S
Does anyone know if Seun Osewa is a believer? because I'm really digging him right now.

as an atheist, you got married to a fellow athiest but live in a enviroment were christians and muslims are living, Ofcourse your children will have a christians friends,how will your children feel if they found out, you dont believe in God?when there friends are thanking God, how will they think about there mom?will you stop your children from beliving in God? I understand at young age, life is sooo full of fun for you,when you are old and life seem's to fade away, what will you do? Bible say the best time of our life to worship God is when we are young.


I once did wrong things, i did not hurt anybody,but because of me, my school have to change bank account,i did many things in this life that non of this athiest on nairaland can do,i did not robb a bank,but i finish my school without paying school fee, nobody know how i did it, but it'a big trick,i dont know how it happen, God save me,because of the things i'v done in this life, honestly i thought God will not forgive me, i found out that if you dont give God the days of your youth, is it when you are old?you can underestimat this qustion but take your time and think about it. but today by his grace am still alive.

habakukk3: 17. Though the fig tree should not blossom,
nor fruit be on the vines,
the produce of the olive fail
and the fields yield no food,
the flock be cut off from the fold
and there be no herd in the stalls, 18 yet I will rejoice in the Lord;
I will take joy in the God of my salvation. 19 God, the Lord, is my strength;
he makes my feet like the deer's;
he makes me tread on my high places.

Eberex: Don't mind the ignorant OP

i think he is a muslim disguise as christian because no christian will say this kind of thing.

2nd corinthians15:17.King James Bible. And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Princecalm: you have not really answered my question,If yes why were they right by killing Jesus

when they say prophecy,what dos it mean?it mean to predict the future, and when it happen, we say the prophecy is being fullfiled, right? Ok,if you know your future and how you will die, will you not try to prevent it from happening?jesus himself know all this will happen, he know he will die in jerusalem yet he still go there. Now if you say it displease God that jesus died,that mean God fail to protect his son[Godforbid] his son died against the wishes of his father, is it not what you are trying to say? ON MANY OCCATION GOD ASK US TO TEACH AND PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, NOW ACCORDING TO YOU, IF GOD FAIL TO PROTECT JESUS FROM MEN, DOS THAT MEAN HE FAIL?


the bible is a sealed book to the learn and unlearn,until you study each word with a simple mind and the guidance of the holy spirit. What you are doing here is this.....you are trying to add your interpretation to God word.

Princecalm: so what will happen to our fore-fathers then since christ did not meet them,will they all go to hell?answer me.

God will judge them according to there knowlegd of good and evil.

Princecalm: just this question for you.The people that killed Jesus did they do the right thing by killing him?

what is wrong with you? Dint you read in the bible that the death of christ is a prophecy? Isaiah say"he was taking to the slaughter,yet he open not his mouth" bible say .your knowledge of the bible is so weak.

Princecalm: to save the world from destruction,and that by spreading the gospel.If christ really came to die for our sins then why wait for thirty-three years before dying?

save the world from distruction?what cause the destruction? Jesus teach the gospel for 33years,so what are you talking about?your knowledge of the bible is so weak, my one and two contribution will guid the very elect from your thread, thank you for your time, am signing up from this thread.

princecalm. You did not answer my qustion. John 3:17.New International Version For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but
to save the world through him.

TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM WHAT?
Note:it is not satan beause satan has already been judge.

Princecalm: even if it was not stated you should know,immediately Jesus died an earthquake shook the earth,the curtains that covered the most important place in the Temple was torn into two and darkness covered the earth for three hours,now tell me were they all signs of jubilations.

after the death of jesus darkness cover the earth,the temple which jesus say "destroyed and buld in 3days" wer destroyed, all the dead saint ressurect but they did not accend to heaven because jesus is the first born amoung the dead so he will be the first to ressurect.the reason all this happen is because the saint that died before the coming of jesus.God rise them , the mission is finish , God has finaly reconcile us to himself.

BossTtdiamonds: I love seein' you around....

thank you my brother, we are learning from each other.

Princecalm: "Thou shall not kill" it is among the Ten Commandments of the Almighty,and if the Almighty sent Jesus to die for our sins as you claimed then He(GOD)will be contradicting his law and that can never happen because He is Perfect.Moreover God does not supports human sacrifice that was made clear to you when the Almighty tested Abraham's faith by asking him to kill his son.

if we go by your thinking, then God is wrong for killing the baal worshiper in the old testement.

Friend, Good night.may God forgive us our sin,did you attend bible study in your church? For me, i rether mis sunday service than mis my bible study.

Princecalm: it was also noted in the Bible that immediately Jesus died the Almighty was angry,there was darkness all over the earth for three hours,and the curtains of the Holy Room in the Temple tore into two there by exposing it.If you say he truly came to wash your sins away then the Bible should have recorded that after Jesus died Angels were singing melodious songs for a mission well accomplished but the reverse was the case.

why are you sooo determine to twist the word of God? Were did it say God is angry because jesus is being killed?

Princecalm: Jesus himself never said his main purpose of coming to earth was to come and wash the sins of men but instead to spread the gospel.Taking an instance when Nicodemus asked Jesus what must he do to enter the Kingdom of God,why did Jesus not just answered him by saying "don't worry when i die on the cross your sins will be washed away".He did not make such statement because he was not on earth for that purpose.

john3:3. Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]” what do you understand by bornagain? on the same book of john it say"God did not send his son to condemed the world but to save it" now answer my qustion,SAVE IT FROM WHAT? Note this: satan has already been judge so it clearly not him. So God send jesus to save the world from what?

Princecalm: i can see u are lost,u are not on the right path,u dare called the son of God a bastard.Well no cause for alarm the laws of nature will continue to operate no matter what"what you sow,you must reap".

you said JESUS is the son of God, do you think he is not capable of washing away your sin?

Princecalm: If Jesus washes sins away,are you now trying to say that the law of Sowing and Reaping has been abolished?

sowing what? Reaping what? How is this related to our salvation? Ohh i got it now, sowing mean buy salvation ? You are confused, pray for the helper to call to your remebrance the gospel of salvation.

Princecalm: am not because i belive that God exists,all you must know is that christ did not die for our sins.It is crystal clear,tell me why Jesus said that"Lord forgive them for they do not know what they are doing"which means the beating and molesting of the son of man was wrong.

your heart is harden, it is a prohecy.

Isaiah53:3. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he
was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his
stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before
her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the
transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his
mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed,
he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in
his hand.

Princecalm: This statement is wrong and will forever remain wrong.
The following below are reasons why it is wrong.
*Even in the Ten Commandment,precisely the sixth it is written "Thou shall not kill",which means the people who killed Jesus committed murder,and if God was in support of the killing then it means he is contradicting his law which cannot happen because we were made to understand that God is perfect.
*When the Jews brought Jesus to Pilate for procecution that he(Jesus)blasphemed,Pilate wife who had a dream adviced her husband not to have anything with the killing of Jesus christ(will you say it was the devil that gave her the dream)and when Pilate said he has found no guilt in Jesus the Jews threthened that if he released Jesus,then he is no friend of Ceasar,for fear of him(Pilate)losing his respect,he washed his hands with water in a bowl and handed Jesus over to the Jews to do whatever they wanted that he will have no stain with the blood of the man and the Jews replied "let his blood be upon us and our generations",is that a curse or a blessing?
*When Jesus was about to die on the cross he said"Lord have mercy on them for they do not know what they are doing"why will Jesus say that if he truly came to die for our sins"

are you a christian? Buried in sin and alive in christ, what dos it mean? Bible say behold he died and RESURRECT and he liveth FORVERMORE. What do you understand by this?

Let me just drop few word.
It sadden me to see how my christians brothers misinterpret bible,it hard to see this kind of christians in our everyday lives but they are many in the internet, somthimes i feel most of this people are demon[sorry] our fondation in adam is faulty, david say"if the foundation is faulty what can the righteous do? Do you think God will leave it untouch? We need to start a new fondation in the person of christ,but first you need to set your self free from the sin of adam, you need to wash your sin away from the sin of adam, only jesus can wash your sin away because he was born of the spirit of God, you need to start your new foundation in christ. Isaiah say he is our solid foundation the chife conner stone. Jesus died for my sin, you are free to exclude yourself, IT A CHIOCE. Thank you

HolyHolla: These are outdated by the age in which we live. I'll sum it all in one sentence, "Why fight at all in the 21st century, if your God is great (akbir) and has the capacity to fight for you, and not wait for the El Madhi to come and fight for you as the quran has predicted?"

good qustion,just ready to read a very long note from him,the guy is adicted to copy and paste long note. In most of his post, he was calling christians antichrist, i ask him" what is christ? If you are not an antichrist, dos that mean you believe in christ?" the guy just went to copy and paste long note for me, the answer he gave me was funny, he was trying to say allah is christ.

proo212: @Abdulsalam20



I'm sure we'll argue till eternity that Surah 9 abrogates this chapter since this was the second to the last verse revealed. I will not even quote the hadiths (numerous) justifying compulsion.

I leave you with the same Islamic Law.....If you read through, you will notice that it uses Surah 9:29 and not 2:256....



Perhaps, you should have a discussion with a PhD holder in Islamic Studies to set you straight!!!

bros, God bless you. This abdusalam20 dont even understand himself.

striktlymi: There are a number of them actually. One of them is The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA). One of its leaders is Joseph Kony.

ok,thank you. But you do understand that they are not active as boko haram and the rest, or am i wrong? When last they carry attack on innocent citizen ?

ifeness: The bible god seem to me as a corny,emotional ,manipulate individual. Put a time bomb in the garden knowing it will explode sooner or later. My goal is to disobey the bible god. He hates sin,i love sin. He loves having sex with virgins, i prefer when they are disvvirgined.

like i said earlier, it a choice. Thank you for your time.

Abdulsalam20: WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
( Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA
THANK GOD THE PLANE CAN PRESIDENT WANT TO USE TO PURCHASE AMMUNITION ROM UN AUTHORISED AGENT IN SOUTH AFRICA WAS DISCOVERED AND NOW SINCE NO MORE AMMUNITION FOR THEM THEY ARE NOW SURRENDERING VOLUNTARILY.....IF U CAN READ MY EARLIAER POST U WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM BY NO WAY SUPPORT TERRORISM

how dos it sound, a christian wanted to bomb a church?which religeous grop dos he belong to?even the muslims soldier friends i have here knows that boko haram are muslims who misinterpret quran,though some believe it is a political problem.

ifeness: Why did God creat the tree if he wans't evil ?

if i want my son to love me genuely, i will give him option of love and hate, i will not interfer in his decision, i will let him chose,if he chose love,him and me will no that our love for each other is genue.the tree is our option, obey God or disobey God, it is your choice.IF GOD HAD NOT PUT THE TREE IN THERE,OUR LOVE FOR GOD WILL NOT BEEN PUT TO TEST.

WILL YOU ACCEPT OR YOU WILL PASS BY?

kolawaxxy: Religion is a varied symbolic expression of, and appropriate response to what people DELIBERATELY affirm as being of unrestricted value to them.

Features:

(1) Myth/history:- for a concept to be termed religious, there must have been a myth or history attached to it.

(2)Ritual/Practices: prayer, ablution etc.

(3)Ethical/moral dimension

(4)Social dimension: A religion can't be practiced in isolation. In other words, there can't be a personal religion.

(5)experiential/emotional dimention:- e.g singing to bring down the holy spirit or dancing into ecstasy.

(6)Each religion has its own doctrines.

(7)Symbols and Images; christians have the cross while muslims are known with the cresent and star.


So why would you say christianity is not a religion?

religion is man giving God there idea of worship,it is man tring to find God e.g the tower of babel, the make a decision to meet God and you cant chose for God,example, islam is a religion, in the quran we read how allah love the muslims but hate the unbeliver,if a man has 3 children, will it be appropriat for him to gives condition to his children before he'will love them?


But christianity is God coming to meet man, fulfilling his promise he made to us,if God promise YOU somting, you are not the one that will remind him, He will called you. Jesus said THEY KINGDOM COME, HE BROUGHT THE KINGDOM ADAM LOST BACK TO US, JESUS DID NOT PREACH RELIGEOU, HE UNITE US BACK TO GOD AFTER THE SEPPERATION OF MAN FROM GOD, HE RECONCILE US TO HIMSELF

evil start when man has the knowledge of the law,when God command adam not to eat the fruit,that is were the idea of evil start.paul was teaching in romans 7:9-13. Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin
sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and
through the commandment put me to death. 12 So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good. 13 Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what
is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment
sin might become utterly sinful.

Verse 9-13> sin taking advantage of the law.
But here is what verse 21 say.....
21 Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me.

Evil start when the law was mention to man, but when satansay "HAS GOD SAID YOU SHULD NOT EAT FROM THE TREE?" HE PUT THE IDEA INTO MAN TO DISOBEY GOD, IF IT NOT SATAN WE WULD'NT HAVE GOT THE IDEA FOR EVIL.

striktlymi: There are active terror groups with a sizeable followership by some who associate themselves with Christianity.

please, can you name the terror group and the name of there leader?

striktlymi: Which fact have you presented?

all the war and the old testement law in the bible, have you her'ed of a christian mis interpret it for terror? Even if there is, nobody will follow him, but why only in islam they misinterpret verses for there evil act? The book they read is very clear for everyone to understand.