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haffaze777.all what you copy and paste are the work of people who are enemy of christianity,they mix it with seducing doctrind, but here is a well trusted hadith ,muslims scholar trust it.this hadith prove it that the way in which muslims worship allah that is how pagan worship there gods.


MUHAMMAD AS A PROPHET Muhammad’s father’s name was AbduAllah (Abdullai) and his mother’s
name was Aminah. His grandfather’s name was Muttalib. They were
idol worshipers. A careful study of islam brought by Muhammad
reveals that it is a continuation of his father’s idol worship even
though they said islam is against any form of idol worship. Islam is not
idol worship on the pages of quran but it is in truth and practice. Let us examine islamic mode of worship: 1. TAWAF BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA Doing Tawaf between Safa and Marwa is an Islamic ritual associated
with the pilgrimage to Mecca. Safa and Marwa are two mounts, located
at Mecca. This ritual entails Muslims walking frantically between the
two mounts, seven times. This was originally a pagan pre-Islamic
practice. Muhammad retained it for Islam, sanctioning it with yet
another Qur'anic revelations. Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, AS IT WAS
THE CEREMONIES OF THE DAYS OF PRE-ISLAMIC PERIOD OF IGNORANCE
TILL Allah REVEALED 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al- Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him
who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to
perform Tawaf between them.' " (Quran 2.158)
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:710)
You can see from the above hadith that what was being practiced by
idol worshipers before islam was incorporated into it. I mean islam continues with the ways of idol worshipers. 2. REQUIREMENT OF IHRAM Ihram is a state a Muslim enters into for his pilgrimage to Mecca. It
involves a series of procedures like ritual washing, wearing 'Ihram
garments', etc. Ihram was originally a pagan requirement for
worshipping idols during pre-Islamic times. Muhammad retained this
practice for Islam. Muslims assume Ihram to perform the Hajj or Umrah.
Narrated 'Urwa: I asked 'Aisha : ...But in fact, this divine inspiration was revealed concerning the Ansar who used to assume “Ihram” for
worshipping an idol called “Manat” which they used to worship at a
place called Al-Mushallal before they embraced Islam, and whoever assumed Ihram (for the idol), would consider it not right to perform
Tawaf between Safa and Marwa.
(Sahih Bukhari 2:26:706)
They continued their pagan ways of worship even when they
embraced islam. 3. PRAYING 5 TIMES TOWARDS MECCA Pagans prior to Islam would pray five times per day towards Mecca.
Muhammad retained for Islam, this pre-Islamic practice, sanctioning it
with a story of a night trip to heaven on a mythical beast called al-
Buraq. In heaven, the Hadith tells us that Allah demanded 50 prayers
per day per Muslim. Upon advice from Moses, Muhammed bargains
with Allah and successfully reduces it to five prayers per day. Zoroastrians are also expected to recite their (kusti) prayers at least
five times a day.

enkay27:
Finished service since last year February till date no job...am tired of praying and applying. How does he want me to take care of myself and others.....i don't know y God is silent to this situation, I have been trying to be faithful to him but he is not helping me at all.....am tired and might give up soon...honestly I don't want to but the pressure is becoming too much.....God plz connect me that ur name may be glorify

may God comfort you,dont give up,the devil want you to fall,bible say "the righteous may fall seven times.but he shall arise"even me i'v gone to much stress and pain in this life,but i have decided to hold on to my faith in christ till i die.

Habakkuk 3:17-19New International Version (NIV) 17 Though the fig tree does not bud
and there are no grapes on the vines,
though the olive crop fails
and the fields produce no food,
though there are no sheep in the pen
and no cattle in the stalls, 18 yet I will rejoice in the Lord,
I will be joyful in God my Savior. 19 The Sovereign Lord is my strength;
he makes my feet like the feet of a deer,
he enables me to tread on the heights.

Crocz:
What has Muhammad or other prophets got to do with all this?...the "TRUTH" I'm referring to is not about the gospel, it's about the "PERCEPTION" of Jesus as God!

a man born of the spirit of God,who will be his father? On many occation jesus went saying my father,who was he reffering to? If you dont know the father of jesus you do not know the true God. To know more about jesus read colossian1.

Crocz:
One of those that run away from the TRUTH!...I pity you, Jesus will be back and you will be disappointed and regret not searching endlessly for the TRUTH...not even the Pope himself will come out and tell you the TRUTH, for it is the duty of everyone to search and find it...IGNORANCE is same as NEGLIGENCE!


"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you
free."" (John 8:32).

do you know the truth? Muhammad was in the cave of hira when the truth descend on him,what truth is that? Dos that mean all other prophet were living in lies before the truth came on him?

[quote author=lepasharon post=26952722][/quote]thank you lady for believing in jesus,anytin you read on the internet about jesus,dont trust it,they will mix it with seduicing doctrine just to decive the children of God the only side you can get information about jesus is the bible,the word of God.i pray God strenghten your faith in the mighty name of jesus.

ifeness:
What is sin? It is only a religious word that should be abolished. But when you talk about human defaults and weaknesses, then you might have a point. But then,weaknesses are meant to be worked on, not labelled a sin. You need to go back to college.

you are athiest,you dont believe in God,why do you stress yourself in quoting what you dont believe in?my post threating you?

Rilwayne001:
Your copy and paste does not change the fact that Adam also has the SPIRIT FROM ALLAH according to the Quran

This is the verse for Jesus:

Surah Al-Anbiya, Verse 91:
And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.

And this is the verse for Adam:

Surah Sad, Verse 72:
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My Spirit, then fall down before him prostrate,

Please what is the different between the two

Only a blind pugnacious heathen will see a difference between the two.

Meanwhile, i have no time waste on you cos you will still not comprehend the explanations given so far.

Therefore, have a nice day

the difference is that adam was created out of dust and God breath on him the breath of life but jesus was not created from dust,he was a spirit FROM GOD. If we are to agree with you.then the quran suppose called adam the word of God.in the quran ,when mary ask the angel, am only a virgin how could this be? The reply of the angel dos not seem's like the reason for the virgin birth.but in the bible, the reason were giving to her,"THE POWER OF THE MOST HIGH SHALL OVERSHADOW THE AND THAT HOLY THING SHALL BE CALLED SON OF GOD "what dos this mean? As the power of God overshadow her a holy seed is bein implanted in her. Now compere the reply of the angel in both the quran and bible and see which book give the real reason of her virgin birth.

Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what He will. If he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! And it is.” (Pickthall)

if you observ this verse well.it picture the virgin birth as a random manisfestation of God creative power,the angel did not explain the reason for her virgin birth.

The truth of the matter is that the virgin-birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the
Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is
without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning
or purpose. Surely the great act of creating the whole world – with all
the animate and inanimate things in it – out of nothing are sufficient
proofs of God’s creative power. What necessity was there to give a new demonstration of this power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the
mere fact that God could create men out of nothing is surely proof that
God can raise them from the dead.

Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, consider that We created you out of dust…” (Yusuf Ali)

As such, Allah is saying that no proof of the ultimate resurrection is
needed for the unbelievers since his initial act of creation is sufficient
for man to perceive his creative powers. In other words, there is no
need for Allah to further demonstrate his creative powers. The
miraculous conception of Jesus just could not have been for the
purpose of a manifestation of God’s power as there was no visible demonstration of God’s power for humans to behold when he caused
the conception to take place. The miraculous conception could not be
physically demonstrated as there was no visible evidence of it. Thus,
we accept it on the basis of our faith in God’s Word. Though there was
no external visible sign of God’s power, we know the miraculous
conception to be true because it was prophesized centuries in advance in God’s unfailing Word. Since no one could actually see the miraculous
power at work at the time of conception, it certainly would be futile
for God to use it as a means to demonstrate his power for others to
see. Therefore, the virgin-birth could not have been an arbitrary demonstration of the power of God, as the Qur’an claims. There must
have been another reason for it.

Empiree:
My responses in blue

so noah is a prophet!!!. Ok.
Muhammad thought anybody that here from God is a prophet,the quran even regard alexandra the great as a prophet.isahah that gives more prophecy about christ is not mention in the quran,is there any prophecy of the coming of christ in the quran?

Rilwayne001:
Surah Sad, Verse 72:
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My Spirit, then fall down before him prostrate,
(English - Pickthlal)

The verse above was talking about ADAM not Jesus.

I said it earlier that if you cannot grab my explanation then i can't help it.

Surah 4:171: “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit from Him.” The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-minhu, “a Spirit from him.” Thus, the Qur’an clearly describes the human, Jesus, as a Spirit from God himself. With Jesus being the only exception, no humans are
ever depicted as such. However, no attempt is made to explain this
absolutely unique statement of belief in the Qur’an. Yet, the Qur’an
strongly supports the Christian belief that Jesus was a pre-existing
Spirit creature who took on a human form. Surah 4:171 presupposes that Jesus existed before he was conceived by a virgin-woman. For the Qur’an to identify Jesus as a Spirit from God who was
committed to Mary indicates that he was with God even before he was
given to her. It is the closest the Qur’an comes to admitting the pre- existence of Jesus before his conception on earth. The lack of any explanation of its significance, however, suggests that Muhammad
heard and adopted Christian teachings and titles applying to Jesus
without understanding them or seeing their ominous implications that
Jesus was more than a prophet. Jesus was a Spirit before he came to
earth as a human. The Bible, in no uncertain term, testifies to this
divine truth:

Rilwayne001:
You did'nt answer my question

The simple question i asked was that was Jesus refering to himself in Mark as ONE AND ONLY LORD

I will answer your question here, i just hope you would answer mine as well.



Let me educate you on this issue one and for all, i just hope you are able to grab it cus you are just too dull.

[size=15pt] “Word” of God [/size]

Islam provides a clear explanation of how Jesus was a “Word” from God but first the process of human procreation must be understood the Might of God is behind everything. Whenever God decides to do something, like giving life or causing death,He says the word “Be” and it happens,

Quran 40:68 “It is He who gives life and causes death; and when He decrees a matter, He but says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.”

The first step in human procreation is the biological union between male and female reproductive cells in addition to the will of God. Since Jesus was born without a father, he was not conceived by the male sperm cells. Instead his creation, similar to Adam, is solely attributed to the Word of God, ‘Be.’ God says.

Quran 3:59 “Indeed the likeness of Jesus to God as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, ‘Be,’ and he was.”

The Quran gives details of Jesus’ conception. Mary was not impregnated by a man. Angel Gabriel, referred to in the Quran as the Spirit, brought the soul of Jesus – his soul was created by God like other human souls - to breathe it into Mary. On seeing the angel, she expressed with surprise,

Quran 3:47 “‘My Lord,’ said Mary, how shall I have a son when no man has ever touched me?”

The angel answered,

Quran 3:47 “Thus it is: God creates what He wills: When he decrees a matter, He only says to it: ‘Be,’ and it is.”

Gabriel then blew the soul of Jesus into Mary, “so We blew into it (her womb) through Our angel.” (Quran 66:12)

In essence, Jesus is God’s ‘Word’ because he came into existence by God’s Word - ‘Be’ - as the Quran describes in another passage,

“His word which He conveyed unto Mary...” (Quran 4:171)

[size=15pt] “Spirit” from God [/size]

The Quran describes Jesus to be a ‘Spirit’ proceeding from God:

“We breathed into her (Mary) from My Spirit.” (Quran 21:91)

“…a Spirit created by Him.”(Quran 4:171)

“We blew into (her womb) through Our angel.” (Quran 66:12)

Jesus was a spirit, or more correctly, a soul created by God,brought by Gabriel, a mighty angel of God, and breathed into Mary:

“We blew into (her womb from her garment) through Our angel.” (Quran 66:12)

Jesus was not a ‘part,’ ‘person,’ or ‘activity’ of God that separated and dwelled inside Mary. He is called a ‘Spirit’ from God as a symbol of respect and honor, not divinity.

Likewise, God also gives Adam this characteristic of being His spirit. God said when He ordered the angels to prostrate to Adam upon his creation.:

Surah Sad, Verse 72:
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My Spirit, then fall down before him prostrate,
(English - Pickthlal)

read this verse pay attention,when mary say she know no man and she was a virgin,the angel give her the real reason of the virgin birth.
1:30-35: And the angel said to her: “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold! You will conceive in your
womb and bear a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and the Lord
God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule as
king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his
kingdom.” But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am a virgin?” In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you and power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy — the Son of God.”


but the quranic angel did not give the real reason,what the angel in the quran was trying to say is"you know how allah created man,he say be and it was"if that shuld be the case then no need for the virgin birth.

THE QURAN CALLED JESUS SPIRIT OF GOD BUT FAIL TO GIVE REASON WHY THE SPIRIT OF GOD WALK IN THE REALM OF HUMAN.

Mintayo:
If the post is about sex in the sexuality section or if its a romantic story in the romance section,you will read and reread,you will even ask the writer to finish the story if he didnt,now someone gave you an answer to your question twice which will take you only 1minute to read and you are saying you are allergic to the truth? Well,Satan is also allerggic to the truth,no wonder he gave ppl like you time to read fictitious stories about sex and romance which add nothing to you,but to read the Bible,hell no!
May God help us!

thank you my brother.i thought she was open minded that why i answer her,my first post was from the conversation jesus had with the pherasees,it was boldly written"you a mere man claim to be God"yet she disaggre,than i quote the word of paul to her,she dosent believe in paul,so sad,people are using the internet to brainwash innocent christians.

Empiree:
these christian fellas have not been reading their bible very well. They need lots of schooling. The reason I have to get off this thread or not even respond to these folks anymore is becuz they and their bible blasphemed and realized it. Instead of accepting Bible is wrong, they resulted to name calling, stylish derailment and famous Christians way of backing away by saying muslims want to force their belief down their throat. This kind of stupid excuses usually put me off intelligent discussion. That's exactly what limamintruth did. malvisguy212 seems to caution himself going that extent. As you can see limamintruth back down from that issue after seeing road block. Maybe Op can see clearly right and wrong in this discussion. Evidences are quiet obvious. These guys are not that smart.

mr interlingent,you havent answer my qustion.why the quran dint mention this important prophet of God,isaiah?

Abraham smash the idol of his father but muhammad join his family in worshiping idol,infact he was in the cave of hira praying to idol when his allegdly calling,even the hadith prove it,the way of worship in islam is the same way pagan worship there gods.

Rilwayne001:
What is to read there

That Abraham father was a christian? LOL

abraham himself smash the idol,moreover the idol his father worship dos not relate to the true God,but muhammad father worship allah as pagan.his grandfather name is abdulahi meaning servent of Allah. I can even use ur hadith to prove to you that the way muslims worship allah that how pagan worship there gods.

Rilwayne001:
I guess you need a recommeded glasses

I said Abraham's parent not Abraham himselglf..Okay??

go and read the whole chapter of joshau 24.

Empiree:
Isaac's grandpa and most and perhaps all family members were pagans sorry born again Christians . Un-following now. This thread is getting ridiculous unintelligent christian folks

see ignnorant. Give me prove that they worship idol.

Rilwayne001:
Another Mumu..

Joshua 24:2 Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, 'From ancient times your fathers lived beyond the River, namely, Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, and they served other gods .'"

LMAO

you are a very big disKing James Version: Joshua Chapter 24 1 And Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem, and called for the elders of Israel, and for their heads, and for their judges, and for their officers; and they presented themselves before God. 2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. 3 And I took your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him throughout all the land of Canaan, and multiplied his seed, and gave him Isaac.

They serve God,God called them.

Rilwayne001:
To mention a few

The parents of Abraham are hardcore christians


LMAO

is that what you can say?abraham father worship the true God including the rest great men.why will God go back and chose someone from a pagan family,not only that,his message contradict the word of God,quran say all prophet were giving a message,were is the message of isaiah? That is were we can find the prophecy of the coming of christ,is'nt it strange that the quran dint mention any of this major prophet?

Rilwayne001:
How does this answer my question

nobody has ever answer you qustion.beside i notice you dint answer mine.

How do you reconcile this:the quran called jesus spirit and word of God and the bible called jesus son of God,how do you reconcile it?

Empiree:
And go up and read over where i replied with those names. Guess you missed that.

and i say,quran is wrong for mentioning the two sons of abraham,one must be left out,the both cant have the same convenant.when isaac gives his blessing to jacob,and esau pleaded for his blessing,even dough he was bless but it not the same with that of jacob.

Muhammad is not a prophet because he has a pagan baground,all God prophet ,non of them has a pagan in there family ONLY MUHAMMAD HAS,WHY? Why will God violate his principle of chosen a prophet by chosen a. man from pagan baground?

Xtarxhyne:
Can u pls tell us d reason(s)

bible called jesus son of God.quran deny it,bible say he was crush because of me.quran deny it,what more do you want to know ? They are not the same God.jesus say my peace i give to you, but in the quran.muslims are to invoke the peace of God to all prophet ,mostly muhammad . This dosent make sens to me because why shuld i invoke peace on someone who is said to be in heaven were is more peacfull than were i am?

Empiree:
sura 3:84 'Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."

4:163-64
"Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms].

And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.

It's said that some 124,000 prophets were sent to the world. Only some 25 are mentioned in the Quran. We are commanded to respect them all including those mentioned in Christian Bible and Tawrat(Torah). Most others not mentioned in the Quran were sent to Isrealites ([size=5pt]they are pig-headed stubborn people[/size])I am sure those you mentioned up there, that's not their original names. Those are their English versions.

i told you to give me verse were this names where written,this are the major prophet of God,why the quran dint mention there names?they are the ones that prophecies the birth of jesus.

The verse you qoute is wrong,dont you think it wrong to mention the name of the two sons of abraham? God has no convenant with ishmeal,both the quran and bible prove it.

Empiree:
@limamintruth malvisguy212Blackfire

Clearly you guys have no idea what you talking about but it is not your fault. You only read what you know of from the Bible. Perhaps, you haven't ask yourself critical question 'why would high profile kings like David and Solomon beloved by God, endowed with wisdom would commit "grave mistakes", crimes etc according to your Bible?. Can't you see that someone or group of people have re-wrote your Bible with these confusion and blasphemies you exhibit on NL?. Bible trashes these great servants of Allah while Quran praises them. Well, according to Quran, Prophet Dawood and Sulaimon are granted paradise. It's never too late to open your eyes to reality.

We can perhaps see moral differences between Quran and Bible on this issue. Allah praises all His noble prophets in the Quran. Both Prophets Dawood and Sulaimon (Allah's Peace And Blessing Be Upon Them) are great, they were prophets and kings, they were obedient servants of Allah Most High. And their souls are in Paradise. Becareful what you wish for @ limamintruth malvisguy212 Blackfire.

so you mean someone change the word of God?david was a king.did the quran mention the following prohet.elijah,isaiah,jerimaiah,ezekiel,elisha,amos and the rest?

ifeness:
Hahaha christianity put to the sword again lol.

so you agree with the rubish he wrote? It clear you guys dont understand the concept of salvation.can someone from the blood of adam wash away the sin of his forefather?

Abdulsalam20:
LOLZ...THAT IS WHAT I SAID ADAM WAD CREATED MORE MIRACULOUS THAN JESUS THEREFORE ADAM IS GOD HE HAS NO FATHER AND MOTHER


I DONT REALLY WANT TODEBATE WITH YOU BECAUSE ITS OUR FESTIVE PERIOD


YOU SAID JESUS COME TO SHED HIS BLOOD FOR YOUR SIN .......THIS VERSE WILL SHOCK YOU

Jesus was teaching his disciples in the outer court of the
Temple and one of them said unto him: [b]
Master, it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no
remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take
away sin? And Jesus answered: No blood offering, of
beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the
conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent
blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of
the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verses 1-2)

see what paul said

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood;
and without shedding of blood is no remission.
(Hebrews 9:22)


CHRISTIANITY IS FRAUD
AND LEADS TO HELL

EZEKEIL18:20
New International Version
The one who sins is the one who will die. The
child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will
the parent share the guilt of the child. The
righteousness of the righteous will be credited to
them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be
charged against them.


FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR MORE

www.nairaland.com/1934376/word-begoten-been-removed-frm

your knowlegd of the word of God is soo weak,can a blood of an man cleans the universal sin of adam? Adam sin affect mankind and we all have the same root,it impossible for a man blood to wash away the sin of adam,only an immortal bein like jesus who has the nature of godliness can. The sin of adam is univeral,mankind pay for it.but the sin the book of ezekiel was talking about is not universal,it all about father and son.

Rilwayne001:
This is that the Quran says

Quran 5:72 Indeed, they have disbelieved who say, "Behold,God is the Christ, son of Mary" - seeing that the Christ [himself] said, "O children of Israel! Worship God [alone] , who is my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer."" Behold, whoever ascribes divinity to any being beside God, unto him will God deny paradise, and his abode shall be the fire: and such evildoers will have none to aid them.




Trulu Jesus said the above in the bible.

MARK 12:29-34 — And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; [size=15pt] The Lord OUR God is ONE LORD: [/size] And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. And the scribe said unto him……………"

Only a blind man will not see the ONE LORD in the verse above.

UNTIL ANY ONE OF YOU (morons) CAN PROVE TO ME THAT JESUS WAS TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF HERE. ELSE YOU ARE ALL RE.TARDED INCLUDING THE OP

who said God is 3? Jesus said" i and my father are ONE" HE DID NOT SAY TWO BUT HE SAY ONE.

Abdulsalam20:
IF JESUS IS GOD BECAUSE HE WAS BORN A VIRGIN THEN ADAM SHOULD BE A GREATER GOD BECAUSE HE HAVE NO FATHER AND HAVE NO MOTHER

Adam was created without the agency of a human father or mother
because, as the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly
parents. Such an act of creation was necessary at the beginning of the
world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of
Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process
of procreation had long been in existence. Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of
procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might
thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held
a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this
miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other
prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely
close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ.

Rilwayne001:
Mr. man please address my First post on this amd stop being stupid.

Kindly create a thread abt Quran 4:171 afterall it is bot the basic question from the OP.

Please do that asap.

Answer my question in my first post then create a thread about Quran 4:171.

relax man, dont stress your self, i have already told your brother lanre that he shuld expect a thread from me maby next week, i will prove to you that quran called jesus son of God,but because you guys are ignnorence you culd'nt see it, let me give you an assignment, read the account of the angel gabriel giving the glad tiding to mary , study both quran and bible and observe the qustion mary ask the angel and read the reply of the angel, compere the both reply in the bible and quran, i think somthing is not right there.

ifeness:
Scriptures are for fools....cant you see my proof in the church every sunday?

yes, am a fool and you are wiser. "God has chosen the foolish thing to put to shame the wise."

Rilwayne001:
You know what?

I dont like replying you, cos you dont know anything.
Let me just clear your st.upidity here..



LUKE 1:15 New International Version
for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born.

Before John was born he was filled with the holy spirit of God.

Is John also God as you have claimed for jesus with the above

Lets start from here.

you are a disappointed to your belief.is this what you can comes up with? Do you think you are chanting with a stranger to the wordd of God? Even though the bible say holy spirit but you interprete it diff, ok let agree to what you say.

The verse say john was FILLED with the spirit of God, what dos this mean? It mean that john is POSSESED with the spirit of God, but the quran clearly say JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND WENT ON TO SAY HE IS THE WORD OF GOD. how do you reconcile this with the passages in the bible that called jesus SON OF GOD?

ifeness:
Yes God came to man to extort money from them every sunday through aa religion called christianity

that is your opinion,without any scriptural proof.

Empiree:
Christianity keeps getting magnificently ridiculous by day. Blasphemies and attributed falsehood against prophets of Allah. Becareful what you say. Really smell lots of confusion in your post. Good luck pal.

So limamintruth, what is the fate of Nabi Daud and Nabi Sulaimon (God's peace and blessing be upon them) in afterlife according to the Bible?

david was a man after God heart ,but because his hands is full with blood stain, God forbid him to buld the temple instead solomon is son buld it,david even send his soldier to war for him to die so that he can marry his wife, david is not a prophet he is a leader. Samuel was the one that anointe him, samuel is a prophet but david is'nt.solomon is not a prophet, he was carried away by worldly plassure, marry hundreds of wife and having to many cuncubine, prophet dont do like this.

ifeness:
Define religion?

religeon is man finding God making decision for God, just like the tower of babel, they make decision to meet God.but christianity is God coming to meet man and gives man the kingdom adam lost. Jesus said they kingdom come,he bring the kingdom to us.