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 Islam › Re: The Quran Testifies: David And Elizabeth Worshiped Jesus As God! by malvisguy212: 6:29am On Oct 05, 2014 |
davien:see my friend,it was clearly written that jesus is the spirit of God,which mean he prexisted right at the begining of creation but only as the spirit of the same God who created the world. Be sincer for once mr athiest. |
| Islam › Re: The Quran Testifies: David And Elizabeth Worshiped Jesus As God! by malvisguy212: 10:38pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
davien:the quran called jesus the spirit Of God, now what's the difference between spirit of God, son of God and Lord? Surah 4:171: “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit from Him.” The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-minhu, “a Spirit from him.” Thus, the Qur’an clearly describes the human, Jesus, as a Spirit from God himself. With Jesus being the only exception, no humans are ever depicted as such. However, no attempt is made to explain this absolutely unique statement of belief in the Qur’an. Yet, the Qur’an strongly supports the Christian belief that Jesus was a pre-existing Spirit creature who took on a human form. Surah 4:171 presupposes that Jesus existed before he was conceived by a virgin-woman. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Difficult Bible Questions by malvisguy212: 10:01pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
udatso:the sacrifice of abraham to isaac is a foreshadowing event of what God will do to his son as a sacrifice to the world. It take 3DAYS AND 3NIGHT for the sacrifice to happen, and ond the THIRD DAY God substitute isaac to the LAMB, on many occation bible liken jesus to be the LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKE AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD,JESUS OTHER NAME IS LAMB OF GOD. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Difficult Bible Questions by malvisguy212: 9:59pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 9:50pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
lanrexlan:let do it this way. Did God forbid sacrifice? Give me verse were God reject sacrifice. |
| Islam › Re: The Quran Testifies: David And Elizabeth Worshiped Jesus As God! by malvisguy212: 9:48pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
coolebux:am not a religeonist, am a christian by his grace. Christianity is not a religeon. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 9:44pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
lanrexlan:i will have mercy not sacrifice dosent mean God forbid sacrifice,to obey is better than sacrifice, how dos it sound in your brain? When your have quarrel with someone and you want to offer sacrifice to God, God will not accept it because you have no mercy to forgive your friend, that whhat it mean. So paul gave no condition mean he contradict jesus teaching? It is clear that you did not read what you copy and paste. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 9:35pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
lanrexlan:expect a new thread from me, very soon, i will point out were jesus is being called the son of God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 9:33pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
lanrexlan:did you go through the thread you paste? god promies to make ismeal a great nation but the prophethood is with isaac If Allah intends to include Ishmael, his name would be placed before Isaac, as he was older than Isaac by fourteen years. But as it can be noted, Surah 29:27 completely omits any reference to Ishmael, raising the question as to why he was totally ignored if he was as important as Muslims claim him to be. |
| Islam › Re: The Quran Testifies: David And Elizabeth Worshiped Jesus As God! by malvisguy212: 8:57pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
coolebux:who is lord lugard? Who worship him? Is he a spiritual leader? In the quran it was clearly written no one is to be called Lord yet jesus is called Lord. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 8:51pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
lanrexlan. I created a thread, even when i pleaded for the thread not to be transfer to the islamic section still the mod transfer it, i was ban there, uptil today no muslims has been able to reply the thread. Centuries before the Qur’an came into existence, the Holy Bible speaksof the Covenant of Jehovah with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: Exodus 2:24-25: “…and God remembered his covenant with ABRAHAM, ISAAC and JACOB So God looked on the sons of Israel and God took notice. ” 2 Kings 13:23: “But Jehovah was gracious unto them and had compassion upon them and turned to them because of his covenant with ABRAHAM ISAAC and JACOB” Psalms 105:7-10: “He is Jehovah our God. His judgement are in all the earth. He has remembered his covenant even forever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations, the covenant which he concluded with Abraham, And his sworn statement to Isaac, And which statement he kept standing as a statue even to Jacob,As an everlasting covenant to Israel.” WITH THE ABOVE VERSES IN THE BIBLE,ALL PROPHET ARE TO COME THROUGH THE LINAGE OF ABRAHAM,ISAAC AND JACOB.ANY OTHER PROPHET THAT CAME OUT SIDE OF THIS IS A FALS PROPHET. WHAT THE QURAN SAY ABOUT THIS? In harmony with the above stated Covenant, Surah 29:27 affirms that the Prophethood will remain in the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Given below are four different translations of Surah 29:27. " Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham), We bestowed upon him Isaac and (Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused prophethood and revelation to continue among his offspring. (Asad)" " And We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed. (Pickthall)" And We granted him Ishaq and Yaqoub, and caused the prophethood and the book to remain in his seed. (Shakir)" And We bestowed Ishaq and Yaqub to him, and kept the Prophethood and the Book among his descendants. (Faridul Haque)" Surah 29:27 mentions that Prophethood and Scriptures came uniquely through the seed of Isaac and Jacob. It speaks of the prophetic office as having been entrusted to Isaac and Jacob and their descendants. And Allah also declared in the above Qur’anic verse, that the prophethood would “remain” in the lineage of Isaac and Jacob. In other words, anyone claiming to be a prophet of God must be born in the Prophetic Race. Since the Qur’an states that prophethood belongs exclusively to the lineage of Isaac and Jacob, we must then ask whether Muhammad was born in the line of the prophets. In other words, was he born in the Prophetic Race? Muslims scholars claim that Muhammad was a descendant of Ishmael. But Ishmael is entirely excluded in the prophetical line in Surah 29:27. If Allah intends to include Ishmael, his name would be placed before Isaac, as he was older than Isaac by fourteen years. But as it can be noted, Surah 29:27 completely omits any reference to Ishmael, raising the question as to why he was totally ignored if he was as important as Muslims claim him to be. Thus, the Qur’an clearly teaches that the prophetic line came through Isaac – not Ishmael. If Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael, then he cannot be a descendant of Isaac at the same time, given the fact that Ishmael and Isaac are half-brothers. Thus, it is evident that Muhammad is not a descendant of Isaac. As Muhammad was neither a Jew nor a descendent of Isaac and Jacob, this automatically disqualifies him as a prophet of God. The followingSurahs also concur with Surah 29:27. "Surah 45:16: And verily We gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood, and provided them with good things and favoured them above all peoples. (Pickthall) " "surah 2:47: “O Children of Israel! Remember My favour wherewith I favoured you and how I preferred you to (all) creatures.” (Pickthall) " Further evidences in the Qur’an alluding to the fact that the prophethood belongs solely to the line of Isaac and Jacob are provided below: Surah 19:49: So, when he had withdrawn from them and that which they were worshipping beside Allah. We gave him Isaac and Jacob. Each of them We made a Prophet. (Pickthall) Surah 21:72-73: And We bestowed upon him Isaac, and Jacob as a grandson. Each of them We made righteous. And We made them chiefs who guide by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds and the right establishment of worship and the giving of alms and they were worshippers of Us (alone). (Pickthall). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 8:41pm On Oct 04, 2014 |
lanrexlan:your canalm mind will not allow you to understaand, did you border to read what you copy and paste? How dos this word from jesus"if you forgive dos that sin against you,how much more will your heavenly fathe forgave you" contradict paul word in colossian 2:13,? Matthew 20:28. just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransomr for many.” Matthew 26:28 . This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 8:40pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
TeamSimple: Sorry sir, I don't think I need any clarification from you on who prophet Muhammed(saw) is,was talking to my fellow muslims. Don't have strenght to convince you or reason with you,because its of no use to both of us.do you want to ignore the truth and continue living in lies? Do you believe in jesus christ? I understand muslims believe in him but the bible say the devil also believe in him, dos that make him a child of God? No, you must confess him . |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Immortal Soul Is Of The Devil by malvisguy212: 6:37pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
edogho: @malvinsguy, stop playing smart. refer to obanz's comment above, its glaring that u're wrong. be humble like me and accept the truth. if after going through obanz's comment u still hold dis same idea u are propagating, don't bother to quote me. as for all those second hand or third hand stories of ppl speaking or seeing ghosts, u can quote me if u want to know the secret behind that.the op say soul die,how do soul die? Who killed them? Bible only say God destroyed soul, destroy dos not mean He killed soul, He destroyed them in hell,you dont die in hell, do you?the poster you reffer me to qoute from the book of isaiah, as of that time, when human die, there are not realy dead but they are sleeping spiritualy , the soul will go to abraham bossom, the moment jesus give up the ghost, the dead saint ressurect and becaus jesus was the first born amoung the dead, the dead saint waited until he ascended to heaven. Peace |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 4:37pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
TeamSimple: S/alaikum brothers..honestly I don't like it when muslims try to convince the christians or any other religion about Islam. Allah have said it,Islam won't be for everybody except those he guilded. So leave them let them blaspheme,hypocrite and tell lies about Allah. He knows how to deal with them. Suratul Qaf ,Waqiyat and Kahf among others are enough to make even a believer drown in tears. Please my muslim brothers let save ourselves the insults,not on us but our holy prophet (saw) and book Quran. Jazakumlahkairan. Ma salam.you cannot convince anybody here because even the quran disqualify muhammad as a prophet. Centuries before the Qur’an came into existence, the Holy Bible speaksof the Covenant of Jehovah with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: Exodus 2:24-25: “…and God remembered his covenant with ABRAHAM, ISAAC and JACOB So God looked on the sons of Israel and God took notice. ” 2 Kings 13:23: “But Jehovah was gracious unto them and had compassion upon them and turned to them because of his covenant with ABRAHAM ISAAC and JACOB” Psalms 105:7-10: “He is Jehovah our God. His judgement are in all the earth. He has remembered his covenant even forever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations, the covenant which he concluded with Abraham, And his sworn statement to Isaac, And which statement he kept standing as a statue even to Jacob,As an everlasting covenant to Israel.” WITH THE ABOVE VERSES IN THE BIBLE,ALL PROPHET ARE TO COME THROUGH THE LINAGE OF ABRAHAM,ISAAC AND JACOB.ANY OTHER PROPHET THAT CAME OUT SIDE OF THIS IS A FALS PROPHET. WHAT THE QURAN SAY ABOUT THIS? In harmony with the above stated Covenant, Surah 29:27 affirms that the Prophethood will remain in the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Given below are four different translations of Surah 29:27. " Surah 29:27: And (as for Abraham), We bestowed upon him Isaac and (Isaac’s son) Jacob, and caused prophethood and revelation to continue among his offspring. (Asad)" " And We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed. (Pickthall)" And We granted him Ishaq and Yaqoub, and caused the prophethood and the book to remain in his seed. (Shakir)" And We bestowed Ishaq and Yaqub to him, and kept the Prophethood and the Book among his descendants. (Faridul Haque)" Surah 29:27 mentions that Prophethood and Scriptures came uniquely through the seed of Isaac and Jacob. It speaks of the prophetic office as having been entrusted to Isaac and Jacob and their descendants. And Allah also declared in the above Qur’anic verse, that the prophethood would “remain” in the lineage of Isaac and Jacob. In other words, anyone claiming to be a prophet of God must be born in the Prophetic Race. Since the Qur’an states that prophethood belongs exclusively to the lineage of Isaac and Jacob, we must then ask whether Muhammad was born in the line of the prophets. In other words, was he born in the Prophetic Race? Muslims scholars claim that Muhammad was a descendant of Ishmael. But Ishmael is entirely excluded in the prophetical line in Surah 29:27. If Allah intends to include Ishmael, his name would be placed before Isaac, as he was older than Isaac by fourteen years. But as it can be noted, Surah 29:27 completely omits any reference to Ishmael, raising the question as to why he was totally ignored if he was as important as Muslims claim him to be. Thus, the Qur’an clearly teaches that the prophetic line came through Isaac – not Ishmael. If Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael, then he cannot be a descendant of Isaac at the same time, given the fact that Ishmael and Isaac are half-brothers. Thus, it is evident that Muhammad is not a descendant of Isaac. As Muhammad was neither a Jew nor a descendent of Isaac and Jacob, this automatically disqualifies him as a prophet of God. The followingSurahs also concur with Surah 29:27. "Surah 45:16: And verily We gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood, and provided them with good things and favoured them above all peoples. (Pickthall) " "surah 2:47: “O Children of Israel! Remember My favour wherewith I favoured you and how I preferred you to (all) creatures.” (Pickthall) " Further evidences in the Qur’an alluding to the fact that the prophethood belongs solely to the line of Isaac and Jacob are provided below: Surah 19:49: So, when he had withdrawn from them and that which they were worshipping beside Allah. We gave him Isaac and Jacob. Each of them We made a Prophet. (Pickthall) Surah 21:72-73: And We bestowed upon him Isaac, and Jacob as a grandson. Each of them We made righteous. And We made them chiefs who guide by Our command, and We inspired in them the doing of good deeds and the right establishment of worship and the giving of alms and they were worshippers of Us (alone). (Pickthall). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 3:50pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
[quote author=haffaze777][/quote]God did not created me with suffering, he created me perfect, infact i am god[genesis1:27] i no longer dwell in the adamic nature, christ dwell in me the hope of glory, my name is moses i can now be called moses christ. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 3:41pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
haffaze777: .adam sin is universal, he was the first man, the foundation of the world start from him,any mistake from him will cost our foundation to sink, psalm11:3"if the foundation is faulty, what can the righteous do?" so the fall of adam sink our foundation. Ezekiel18:20 is not a universal sin, it personal, it all about the father and son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him: Isaiah 3:10 will fully explain this passage; it shall be well with the righteous, for he shall eat the fruit of his doing, he shall be rewarded as a righteous one. The wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him; the reward of wickedness, i.e. woeful punishment, shall be executed upon the wicked, as Isaiah 3:11. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 2:11pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
lanrexlan: Cost of salvationyou were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away.Then God made you alive with Christ. He forgave all our sins.” (Colossians 2:13). if you forgive those that sin aginst you how much more will you heavenly father forgive you. How dos this contradict paul teaching? 13. you, being dead—formerly (Eph 2:1, 2); even as Christ was among the dead, before that God raised Him "from the dead" (Col 2:12). sins—rather as Greek is translated at end of this verse, "trespasses," literally, "failings aside" from God's ways; actual transgressions, as that of Adam. uncircumcision of your flesh—your not having put off the old fleshly nature, the carnal foreskin, or original sin, which now by spiritual circumcision, that is, conversion and baptism, you have put off. he quickened—God "quickened together with Him (Christ)." Just as Christ's resurrection proved that He was delivered from the sin laid on Him, so our spiritual quickening proves that we have been forgiven our sins (1Pe 3:22; 4:1, 2). forgiven you—So Vulgate and Hilary. But the oldest manuscripts read, "us," passing from the particular persons, the Colossians, to the general Church (Col 1:14; Eph 1:7). all trespasses—Greek, "all our trespasses." |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 1:25pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
[quote author=AgentOfAllah post=/post/26823562]I hate confining myself into boxes. It suffices me that I'm human. Yeah, except the events leading up to the so-called salvation were blatantly copied from other ancient religions. Read on Mithras HERE Indeed, every ambiguous statement, such as the one above, makes perfect sense...never mind my sarcasm lad, what you said above does not cut it into the realm of sense, let alone perfect sense.[/quote]ok mr athiest, it a chioce,either you believe or you pass by. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 1:24pm On Oct 03, 2014 |
[quote author=haffaze777 post=/post/26823173]even though bible say nobody will bear d inequalities of anybody,why den did u say dat Jesus bear all our sin cos mine is excluded[/quote]did God created you with pain and suffering? If no, what causes it? And who bring pain and suffering into the world? Is it not after the fail of adam God causes man? bring the verse in the bible that say nobody shall bear the iniquetie of anybody. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:31am On Oct 03, 2014 |
plaetton: Lazy Coward.i repeat, what he quote are wrong interpretation of the bible.paul preaches faith witout work is dead,the interpretation he give in ephsians2:8-9 is way out of line. " For it is by free grace (God’s unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ’s salvation) through [your] faith. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [of your own doing, it came not through your own striving], but it is the gift of God" paul was explaining salvation to the jew,it is not by there work, it is already a finishing work by christ jesus himself on the cross. What is grace? Somthing i do not work for,unmerited favour from God, i dont deserv his grace but by God grace am save. Thank you for your abusive word. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:12am On Oct 03, 2014 |
tintingz: Paul and the Romans are the founder of Christianity.paul was in jerusalem killing christian and when he learn that many christian are hiding in damascus, he seek for permision to go and killed them on his way that was when the Lord apper to him.paul even say the Lord apper to 5000 apostles of which am the LAST. How is he the founder of christianity? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 7:06am On Oct 03, 2014 |
AgentOfAllah: And then throw you inside a pit of fire for eternity if you disobey him...so many options, I feel I have a choice. Aah...the perks of genuine love.are you an atheist? No religeon preaches salvation the way God did it in christ jesus, it make perfect sens that man with a sinful nature can be made holy through jesus because God fullness dwell in jesus. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Immortal Soul Is Of The Devil by malvisguy212: 11:42pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
CANTICLES: ..... " Look! ALL souls to me they belong, as the soul of the Father, so also the soul of the Son , the soul dat sinneth - it itself shall *Die "Eze 18:4 ! Dis is clear for somone who believe the word of God , humans are mortal souls prone to death ... " all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Rom 3:23 ! Since all av sinned, den its certain that all souls die , God neva promised Adam life after death .. Did he ? If u say yes, am calling u a flat liar bro " in the sweat of your face u will eat until u return to the ground, for from it u are taken, YOU (ADAM) ARE DUST AND TO DUST U ( ADAM) SHALL RETURN " GEN 3:19 !the soul that sin shall die, by your interpretation , the earth will be empty by now because people make mistake, people sin.is this what they teaches you in jehovah'witness church? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 11:25pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
haffaze777: I don't wanna say anything before but I just think I should ask u dis,what will be d fate of dose dat came before jesus ,remember moses,Aron,Joshua,David and Solomon none of dem confess Jesus as dia lord and savior, so what will be dia fate on d day of recompensebecause they were still waiting for the promise of the messaiah jesus christ, God judge them according to there deed. The dead saint are not spiritualy death , they are sleeping, after the death of jesus the ground open aand the dead saint were ressurected,THEY DID NOT GO TO HEAVEN IMMEDIATLY UNTIL JESUS RESSURECTED. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Prophet Of Allah by malvisguy212: 10:29pm On Oct 02, 2014 |
AgentOfAllah: If your god created man perfectly, how could man have sinned?God created us perfect, give us the freewill to chose between right and wrong.if you father wanted you to love him genuely, he will give you option to chose, either you disobey him or obey him,but adam fail and he lost everytin including the Godly nature God created him with,we have ONLY one option to adopt back the godly nature, unless you confess jesus, you can never be save.that is why he was born of the spirit of God, both the quran and bible prove it.i know you will say muslims believe in jesus ,but the devil also believe in him. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Muslim ,i Despise Bokoharam by malvisguy212: 8:13am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: IF YOU SAY JESUS[PBUH] IS GOD BECAUSE HE HAS NO FATHER OR BECAUSE HE WAS BORN BY A VIRGIN MOTHER THEN ADAM[PBUH] IS A GREATER GOD BECAUSE HE HAS NO FATHER AND HE HAS NO MOTHER..........adam is the first man, that is how it soppose to be,and that how the begining shuld be,but the world is already populated when jesus was born YET he was miraculosly giving birth to,why God did not just allow a normal human being to give birth to jesus? It is because he want us to adopt the nature of Godliness in jesus christ. Moreover adam fail the temptation of the devil but jesus dint. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:53am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: "...to the Jew I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without Law, as without Law (not being without law towardyou want to preach to the pagan,you will behave like one of them, humble yourself like them in other for you to get there attension.behave like them did not mean practice ther belief. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:49am On Oct 02, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Proverbs 21:3 New Living Translationdos thag mean the Lord forbid sacrifice? Dint you read my post?to obey is better than sacrifice, what dos better 'sound to you? god prefer mercy more than sacrifice. Paul say "if a man love God and hate is brother, he is a lier" you must first settle it with you brother in other for God to accept your offering. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Concept Of Immortal Soul Is Of The Devil by malvisguy212: 7:42am On Oct 02, 2014 |
CANTICLES: ... Oh my God ! Are you now denying ur immortal soul doctrine , didnt u say d soul is d real person and it neva die , whereas scriptures said " soul dies " Eze 18:4,20your knowlegd of the word of God is soo weak, "the soul that sinneth it shall die" how dos this sound to you?do soul sin?this is spiritual and not physical as your canal mind see it. God created us perfect,genesis1:27. Man was created in the image of God, this mean man is god, man are not soppose to die, but when man disobey God,he lost everytin. |
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