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budaatum:
Now I know why you have no peace. You have not accepted Jesus as your Lord and Saviour so you are tormented with so much hatred towards everyone and everything.

I will pray for you. May you find peace someday degbu. In Jesus Mighty Name.

have you accepted JESUS as your Lord ?

NgeneUkwenu:
The same way Ikpeazu and Otorm which you spend your entire life defending online also made life hell for Abians and Benue...

Hypocrite!

so two wrong can make a Right ? indeed we still have long way to go. God will come.

^^^ Repeating the same thing. ola ask how did life began ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks bro.

Exactly! I'm not surprised none of them has said anything. I will expose more of the folly of rejecting God's existence soon.

lol. just last week till yesterday the atheists on nairaland are on rampant ( dem just dey disturbed us ) all of a sudden they are no were to be found.

welcome back bro. good to see you again. watch how atheists avoid this thread like plague because it exposed their sinful desire.

Enterusernamehe:
Even I as a Christian, knows it is wrong to judge by religion

Surah 8:67: It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. (Pickthall)

Silence in the face of evil is evil itself. Unless a physician can identify the disease, it will be impossible to cure the patient. It is futile to treat the
symptom and not the disease.Worse still,if you cannot even name your enemy, how can you defeat them?

BeLookingIDIOT:
As if your Bible says anything about paedophilia ....Oh,it does...and worse more.

Numbers 31:17-18 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

the problems with you atheists is BIBLE ILLITERACY.

the medinite and moab descended from Abraham through his other wife Keturah. and had EVERLASTING covenant with Abraham. The children of Israel were on the journey to the Promised Land. God had already told them the land of the Moabites did not belong to them and he was not given them this land. They were to go around it on the way to the land he promised them.when the Israelites arrived near the city, the moabites and medinites came out to war against them, a spiritual war.

Numbers 21v4 The Moabites said to the
elders of Midian, “This horde is going to lick
up everything around us, as an ox licks up the
grass of the field.” So Balak son of Zippor,
who was king of Moab at that time, 5 sent
messengers to summon Balaam son of Beor,
who was at Pethor, near the Euphrates River,
in his native land. Balak said:
“A people has come out of Egypt; they cover
the face of the land and have settled next to
me.6 Now come and put a CURSE ON THEM
people, BECAUSE THEY ARE TO POWERFUL for me.
Perhaps then I will be able to defeat them and
drive them out of the land. For I know that
whoever you bless is blessed, and whoever
you curse is cursed.” 7 The elders of Moab
and Midian left, taking with them the fee for
divination. When they came to Balaam, they
told him what Balak had said.

balaam was a prophet , he was summoned to lay curse on the Israelites, why ? the Israelites are to powerful
So my question is ,if another nation comes to wage war against you; will you defend yourself by attacking them back?

now, concerning the virgins that was saved. because God had everlasting covenant with Abraham through his wife katurah so He want to preserved the virgins,

Numbers 25v1 While Israel was staying in
Shittim, the men began to indulge in sexual
immorality with Moabite women, 2 who invited
them to the sacrifices to their gods. The
people ate the sacrificial meal and bowed
down before these gods. 3 So Israel yoked
themselves to the Baal of Peor. And the Lord’s
anger burned against them.

the Israelites engaged in sexual immorality with the women, even the Israelites men who engaged in this Acts are not spared .
Numbers 31v15 And Moses said unto them,
Have ye saved all the women alive? 16 Behold,
these caused the children of Israel, through
the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass
against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and
there was a plague among the congregation of
the Lord. 15 “Have you allowed all the women
to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the
ones who followed Balaam’s advice and
enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the
Lord in the Peor incident so that a plague
struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the
boys. And kill every woman who has slept
with a man, 18 but saves for yourselves every
girl who has NEVER SLEPT with a man.

God plan to raised a faithful generation through the virgins girks

JJOF:
I think something is missing in the bolded line. So you're saying it's not possible to loose your salvation once you've laid hold of it. Does this claim still holds if a saved person, for reasons best known to him choose to live a perpetual life style of sin, even though he doesn't have the nature of sin?

a believer can loss his salvation:


Mark 4:16 (Luke 8:13), "And in a similar way
these are the ones on whom seed was sown on
the rocky places, who, when they hear the word,
immediately RECEIVED IT WITH JOY ; ( THEY
BELIEVE FOR A WHILE ) and they have no firm
root in themselves, but are only temporary; then, when
affliction or persecution arises because of the
word, immediately they FALL AWAY"

Hebrews 6:4-6, "For in the case of THOSE WHO
HAVE ONCE BEEN ENLIGHTENED AND HAVE
TESTED OF THE HEAVENLY GIFT AND HAVE
BEEN MADE PARTAKES OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT,and have tasted the good Word of God
and the powers of the age to come,
and then have FALLEN AWAY, it is impossible to
renew them again to repentance, since they
again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and
put Him to open shame."

Curtisaxel7:
So did the boy choose to be born blind?

the boy is the product of his parents. there is nothing wrong with the boy, the problems is with the parents.

OLAADEGBU:
That is why I said that most atheists have no moral values. No ethics. No values. As long as the law permits it they have no ethical value to decide what is right or wrong as long as they can get away with their sinful behaviour legally.



The Canadian government has now changed the law this year which now makes it illegal to have sexual pleasure with animals. Before now mosts atheists were happy to derive sexual pleasure with animals as long as does not involve penetration because the law ruled against it but they have no moral compass to know whether it is right or wrong because their conscience has been seared with their fishy morality.

perfectly said bro. do you think the 10 commandments is the opinion of 10 men ? if it is, will it be relevant till now ? man left alone will chose calamities.

NEIGHBOUR:
So sad!!! Why does God allow suffering in the world? why do good people die early while bad and wicked people grow old? Why do bad things happen mostly to good people.?
This world is truly a mystery! An innocent boy who never begged to be brought to this world!!! The best time for the world to end is NOW.!!! May the peace of God that passeth all understanding be with the family.

come in here and read https://www.nairaland.com/2552255/god-love-innocent-wouldnt-suffer

Curtisaxel7:
Your analogy doesn't fit because

1. Skateboarding is an enjoyable activity. Blindness has no joy attached to it.

2. My father is a fallible man. God is a perfect infallible being.

considered the parable of the prodigal son. did the father love the son ? yes. did this love prevent the Son from making decisions ? no. and the son decide to collect his inheritance and move to a foreign country and ended up in a pig swamp. will you blame the father for his wrong decisions ? No.

did God love sinner ? yes. did this love mean that God will alter judgment to accommodate rebellion ? I believe you know the answer. so why blamed God ?

Curtisaxel7:
How can an omnipotent and omnibenevolent God stand by and let this happen?. What justification can he possibly have?.

God is either evil or impotent.

how can your dad allowed you to skateboard even though he know as a little child, its is dangerous ?

partnerbizn:
Lol

What do you understand by God's omnipotence and omnibenevolence? Have you seen Thomas Aquinas' works on these?

I wouldn't say some things so as not to make people despondent.

Any philosopher here?
Can anyone engage?

Note that you aren't replying a neophyte or one who has no smattering of the issues.


So you must be a pundit a tad before you qualify to delve into these issues.

engage in what ?

what if God reveal Himself to a lady ( though privately) Even if the evidence for such encounters is not publicly accessible to the atheists. the theist persuaded about God’s existence through such
encounters is warranted in that belief, the atheist can not fairly rule out this possibility.

Now what if I am speeding down the highway but not paying attention to the signs ? If the highway patrol stops me, I could not say, “I am innocent ; I did not seen the sign.” My ignorance would be culpable since I have an obligation to pay attention to speed limit signs. I am afraid many people who claim ignorance about God’s existence are more like this.

off course they are religious. they have a position concerning God. they have strong Faith , God does not exist.

budaatum:
Some people and their unreasoning! So going to "an area where many of the LGBT community reside" to make them "angry and violent" is not provocation?

I suspect you are there when he was preaching. for you to make this conclusion, you are among the listener.

Emusan:
Let me share this my true story with you then you can conclude for yourself.

During my service in cross-river state, on that faithful day, I had a dream. Behold in reality, it was Saturday/Sunday but in the dream it was Friday/Saturday.

So in my dream, I saw two villages fighting and everywhere was rowdy and killings everywhere. I saw Corpers running for their lives but to my greatest surprises, I heard the villagers making a vow that they'll ensure nothing will happen to any corps members in their village.

While still in the dream, I woke and I narrated everything to my colleagues and we were all afraid, I then round it up that "if this dream is true, let our pastor confirmed it on Sunday"

After this, I woke up to life behold it was around 4-5am on Sunday morning.

I called of one of my colleagues and I told her, she was frightened too....

To cut the long story short, we headed for service, on getting to church, we had normal service and everything went well and we share the grace...

But something so amazing happened shortly, what was that?

I just heard pastor telling everybody to come back that nobody should go, people who are already outside or even on their way came back and the pastor began to say....

"Please something escapes my mind which we need to pray seriously about, I had a dream tonight three times, the dream first came, I pray and slept and the same dream came again second time, same thing also happens the third time."

He said "please we need to pray for a fight that will happen between two villages to the extent that people will die and especially our corps members"

My brother I was dumbfounded, honestly I couldn't pray much as the whole thing was just ringing through my mind....i was like God you're soo marvelous.

Lo and behold, it's not up to two weeks, when a fight broke out between two villages in the border of Ebonyi state and Cross-river though not our own village but it's not that far from ours.

If you listen to news towards ending of 2012, you we hear about it, many people were killed but no single corps member was affected and the corps members shared their testimonies how the villagers helped them to escape and NYSC had to redeployed all the corps members from that village. In fact, one of the Corper stays with us for almost a month before she could get another PPA.

God bless you for sharing. God is Good.

A true believer is safe and secure in Christ JESUS , but The problem is that some believers are not familiar with the statements and promises of God concerning their absolute security in Christ . The true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever because it is impossible for a true believer to become "UN-SAVED."

If a believer sins, then Christ will cast him out ( John 6:37)one thing we know for sure a believer can NEVER be UNWASHED, UNSANCTIFIED , UNJUSTIFIED AND UNREDEEMED. For a person to lose his salvation he would have to become UNWASHED, UNSANCTIFIED, UNJUSTIFIED and UNREDEEMED! Is this possible? will God undo the GOOD WORK He begins in a person or He brings it to it's climate completion?

most atheists will probably condemn this law, but on what basis do they condemn it? They have no objective standard by which to measure this law. All they have is their own opinion, their own judgment, and why would their opinion be better than the opinion of a minority of atheists who accept this law ?

if the Canadian government go into poll and elect new leader in the next election, and the leader reject this law. Does this mean that it once was right but now is wrong? Is it possible that in the future it may become right again? If there are no absolute standards, then
nothing is absolutely right and nothing is absolutely wrong. People's ideas of right and wrong keep changing because everything is relative in a world that has rejected absolute truth. I shake my head in amazement. indeed the Bible warn us for such people:

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and
good evil; that put darkness for light, and
light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet,
and sweet for bitter!

SKYloafFISH:
Good morning @ malvisguy212 I believe the question is straight forward.
For me, dream is a natural occurrence but can be used as a means of divine communication.
Divine communication is not limited to any religion. Divine also covers the aspects of both pure and impure spiritual essence

morning mam. we almost say the same thing. hey, we can even control what we do in out dream.

there is a difference between studying a book and
allowing someone read it for you....you will forever
remain a slave to that person who reads for
you...

last time I checked,every believer was never
deprived of the bible in any way...

So if some believers worship a minister,and carry
him like the pics you put up,it simply means they're
zombies who accept Whatever the minister or pastor
says without studying to find out wat the bible
says...

2 timothy 2:15 "study to show thyself approved
unto God...a Workman that needeth not be
ashamed,rightly dividing the word of truth..."

A believer is meant to study the word in other not to
be deceived by those who claim to be minister , ,especially those who speak as though dey are d only ones who have access to God's number...

there will always be false prophets, teachers and
preachers of the word...they are every where even
in Nigeria...but just the way you have good and bad
people,you will always find both sides of the divide....
the logos which is the word of God will show u the
difference....

in spite of the awesome things Jesus did on
earth,he never asked his disciples or his
followers to carry him or not let his feet touch the
ground like that shame on the pastor on the pic...on the contrary,he humbly washed the feet of his
disciples... just to teach them the virtues of
humility....

Dreams come from God and some come from our heart.

FROM GOD:
Elihu speaks of it:
Job 33:14-18, "For God may speak in one way, or in another, yet man does not perceive it. IN A DREAM, IN A VISION OF THE NIGHT, when DEEP SLEEP falls upon men , while slumbering on their beds, then HE OPENS THE EARS OF MEN, and seals their instruction. In order to turn man from his deed, and conceal pride from man, He Keeps back his soul from the Pit, and his life from perishing by the sword."

Here, Elihu speaks of the work of God upon men in their sleep (in their night visions). It is a way in which the Lord speaks to men in their dreams in an effort to turn them away from evil.

Job 33:14-16, "then He opens the ears of men, and seals their instruction."

Why?

Job 33:17, "In order to turn man from his deed . ... .."

FROM OUR HEART.
In Jeremiah 23:16, the Lord says, "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They make you worthless; THEY SPEAK A VISION OF THEIR OWN HEART."

What was he speaking of ? Jeremiah 23:25 explains further:

"I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in My name, saying, I have
DREAMED, I have DREAMED !"

Their dreams were the "deceit of their own heart" (Jeremiah 23:26). These false prophet's dreams were coming from their own deceitful hearts. Note further:

Isaiah 29:7-8, "The multitude of all the nations who fight against Ariel, even all who fight against her and her fortress, and distress her, shall be as a DREAM of a night vision. It shall even be as when a hungry man dreams, and look - he eats; but he awakes, and his soul is still empty; or as when a thirsty man dreams,
and look - he drinks; but he awakes, and indeed he is faint, and his soul still craves: so the multitude of all the nations shall be, who fight against Mount
Zion."

As illustrated above, a hungry man or a thirsty man, because he is hungry or thirsty, has it in his heart to dream about food or drink. His dreams come from his desires (from his heart).

In Daniel 4:5, Nebuchadnezzar calls the dream he received from God, "thoughts on my bed" . This is simply what a dream is , thoughts in your mind while you sleep. They may be from God, or maybe simply from your own heart.

Being that Jeremiah 17:9 is true, men will have evil dreams. And, just as Jesus said that evil thoughts come from the heart of man (Matthew 15:19; Mark 7:21), so do evil dreams come from the heart of man. They are evil thoughts in his sleep.

Don't get caught up in dreams. Get caught up in fearing God, and loving Him, and your sleep will be sweet. Ecclesiastes 5:7, "For in the multitude of
dreams and many words there is also vanity. But fear God."

peggywebbs:
All you atheists should keep quiet. For some reason you people think you have superior intelligence. Most of the successful Inventors in the world today are not atheists.

Just as you strongly believe there is no God, Christians belief their God exists. People should have freedom to believe what ever they want. You don't have to force people to accept your false ideas.

You say people are Christians because they were told to believe something. Many Christians have experienced the reality of their God in many ways. If you fail to see what they see, it is not our fault. It is because you have decided to limit your mind and as such limit your wisdom.

You rely on what scientists and philosophers feed you with and yet you complain that Christians are being tutored?

If you are an atheist focus on your atheism and stop insulting other people's religion. Let people be free to follow where their heart leads them. You don't even know where your begining or origin and neither do you know your end but you wake up everyday disturbing Christians. Stop persecuting people for their religion. Stay on your lane

perfectly said my sister. Justification is the concept that provides our belief with the assuredness of its truth. People believe things for reasons,which provide the warrant for their belief. Without these reasons,you do not have knowledge of what you believe. If a belief is JUSTIFIED, then we have the right to believe it. Atheists got it wrong, there view was; " since you cannot know something with 100% certainty, you cannot obtain the truth (or knowledge), you just have to believe ,God did it". The bible say otherwise, in Isaiah 1:18 God is calling human to "come and let us
REASON together"

sulasa07:
Quran talked about it to prove it doesn't exist anymore,ALLAH did not preserve all other Prophets idea,why?Coz its only for their time but Muhammad is the last and it has to be preserved forever.
You people always claim Quran copied the bible but how come the ideas in the two books are two way different things.

I am very sure you are not a Muslim.

Anas09:
I could explain myself, but that wld be being defensive which is pride. All I have to say is, I am sorry. I will do better, I promise.

Anas . God bless you. I always have confidence in you.

Michellekabod2:
I think the apology should be from me because I was the one who quoted you and was rude to you. Please forgive me Anas.. am sorry...lots of love to you

I like your humbleness. just as scholar8200 say These three words " I am sorry " would prevent a lot of calamities.
Proverbs 15:1
A gentle answer deflects anger,
but harsh words make tempers flare.

Rashduct4luv:
That can't happen. You want us to be like you Christians with no country/State?

We follow Islamic law till death.

you can only make yourself to believe that there is a pink elephant in your living Room but not us. you can only deceive yourself.

true2god:
Thanks bro, being a while.

good to see you again.

true2god:
The Arab muslims will never allow religious freedom in their coutry but will spend millions of dollars promoting Islam in non-muslim country. It is not about religion but cultural and social conquest of non-muslim lands, by the Arabs, using Islam as a means to an end.

longest time my brother.

Scholar8200:
Hello bro, how is life? thanks for checking up. Stay blessed

we miss you bro. if I did not mentioned you, you wouldn't bother to check on your sheeps, lol. try to be the good Shepard . good to see you, stay bless.

Rashduct4luv:
Off point as usual. Thank you for marking a register on my thread.

how is he off point ? allow freedom to practices other religion in the Arab world and see if Islam can survived