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leofab:
if atheism is when someone doesn’t believe in the bullshit about Yahweh the fictional God.. then yes I’m

hey, you have the right to chose what you believed, but you shouldn't abuse the right by insulting others people belief, you can only ask question. or are you a militant atheist ? see this
https://www.nairaland.com/3288341/how-satan-deceived-atheists

leofab:
ignorance and pride is the bane of Christianity

shouldn't you be more proud of you belief ? answer my question, are you an atheist ?

The Greek word for “forgive” in the New testament is the word “aphes”, which also means to dismiss or FREE. God forgiveness is about totally freed and released from sin

Gideon97:
All religions speak highly of Jesus? Can you give an example of a non Abrahamic religion (anyother than islam,judiasm and Christianity) that speaks hihly of Jesus?

Jews believe Jesus was Mary’s son, was
a teacher (Rabbi), had many disciples,
was respected, performed miracles,
claimed to be the Messiah and was
crucified on the cross. They also
acknowledge His followers reported
Jesus was raised from the dead.
Muslims believe Jesus was born of a
virgin, is to be revered and respected,
was a prophet, a wise teacher who
worked miracles, ascended to heaven,
and will come again.

Ahmadiyya Muslims believe Jesus may
have been born of a virgin, was a
prophet and wise teacher, worked
miracles, and was crucified on a cross..

Bahá’í believe Jesus came from God,
was a wise teacher who had a divine
and human nature, worked miracles, and
was crucified and resurrected as an
atonement for humanity.

Hindus believe Jesus was a holy man, a
wise teacher, and is a ‘god’.

Buddhists believe Jesus was an
enlightened man and a wise teacher.
New Age believers maintain Jesus was a
wise moral teacher.
https://coldcasechristianity.com/writings/who-is-jesus-according-to-other-religions/

TVSA:
how is Jesus the center of all religion?

all religion speak highly of Him.

Gideon97:
Let's have a civil discussion.

if you are confused about religion, then FOCUS on Jesus, ALL religion reference Him . He is the center of ALL RELIGION.

this should be your first step.

sparkyJ:
The rainbow around the sun is something geographic on its own. Before laying d coffin, d atmosphere was normal but d moment pastor Olugbenga's coffin touched Mother Earth, a large ring of Rainbow surrounded Sun. People shouted so loud dat passers-by started running into d commentary to collect d burial programme all bc they wanted to know who he was. It truly happened before my eyes, behold a rainbow circling d sun. If i no see am, wud av said its fake news but i was there. I tot of uploading it too. Others will also come here on Nairaland to bear witness of what they saw. D rainbow ring lasted over an hour. When i got to my place in maraba, i asked d shop owners on my street if they saw anything they said no. i was so shocked to my bones dat it was only Gudu residents dat witnessed it.

don't waste your time explaining, even if God should come down and reveal Himself , the reprobate minded atheists will not believed.

Nuclear99:
Tell us something we don't know

OK, here is something you don't know ..... ARE YOU READY TO DIE ? DO YOU FEAR DEATH ?

leofab:
Does common sense has anything to do with being theist or not

well, I won't argued with you, you take to be fake or not , at list you understand the message in the Bible, and you know what Christianity stand for, this alone can stand as a witness against you.

THE BOOK contains the mind of God,the state of man, the way of salvation,the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its histories are true, and its
decisions are immutable.

leofab:
who Invented your culture and traditions ? The Bible is just a written record of the Middle East’s culture and tradition...

are you an atheist ?

The Bible must be the invention either of good men or angels, bad men or devils, or of God. However, it was not written by good men, because good men would
not tell lies by saying ‘Thus saith the Lord;’ it was not written by bad men because they would not write about doing good duty, while condemning sin,and themselves to hell; thus, it must be written by divine inspiration”.

the bible is THE WORD OF GOD IN THE WORD OF MEN”. This means that God utilized the culture and conventions of his penman’s ,God controls in His sovereign providence. Thus history must be treated a history, poetry as poetry, hyperbole and metaphor as hyperbole and metaphor, generalization and
approximation as what they are, and so forth.

Clint02:
Ok,that's true. Thanks for the correction.

I admired your humbleness.

shadeyinka:
Shame on you!
And your accent is neither British nor American!!

So colonized you even lost your language! SMH!!!
I won't be surprised is you are also bearing the names of your oyinbo slave masters.
Go educate yourself, then come back

hahaha. I suggest that militant atheist run with his tail in between his lags. Weldon bro.

Luke 11:9-10, "And I say unto you, Ask, and it
shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find;
knock, and it shall be opened
unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth;
and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that
knocketh it shall be opened.".


One thing you can say for sure is that a man who doesn't ask is not going to get it, a man who isn't looking for it isn't going to find it, and a man who doesn't knock on the door will never get it open.

lol

perfectly said my good friend. indeed the media is the devil trap, many believers are careless about this.

rolams:
Have you forgotten the origin of Ishmael? Study the history from the base. Don't forget the movement/settlement from one land to another.

your question will make sense only if the Quran provide the Genealogy of Muhammad.

If Ishmael rather than Isaac was chosen or included in the origin of the prophets, why was there only one alleged prophet from the line of Ishmael? Guess who that lone prophet was? Yes, it was Muhammad, a non-Israelite. The rest – Moses, Samuel, Nathan, Elijah, Elisha, Hosea, Amos, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel, Jesus and many others – were all Israelites. All these prophets were descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob just as it is sworn in Surah 29:27. Why did all these prophets come from the line of Isaac, with the
exception of Muhammad who descended from Ishmael? Why was Ishmael’s name left out at the most
significant moment when the Qur’an revealed the lineage of the prophethood ? Did not Allah know
that his greatest prophet would be born through the lineage of Ishmael?

Surah 29:27: And (as for
Abraham), We bestowed
upon him Isaac and (Isaac’s
son) Jacob, and caused
prophethood and
revelation to continue
among his offspring.

Surah 29:27 mentions that prophethood and Scriptures came uniquely through the seed of Isaac
and Jacob. It speaks of the prophetic office as having been entrusted to isaac and Jacob and their
descendants. And Allah also declared in the above Qur’anic verse, that the prophethood would “remain” in the lineage of Isaac and Jacob.

If Muhammad is a descendant of ishmael, then he cannot be a descendant of Isaac at the same time, given the fact that Ishmael and Isaac are half-brothers. Thus, it is evident that Muhammad is not a
descendant of Isaac. As Muhammad was neither a Jew nor a descendant of Isaac and Jacob, this automatically disqualifies him as a prophet of God.

CAPSLOCKED:
WHAT IS THE BIG ONE?

VERY SOON. THE BIG WEEDING IS AROUND THE CONNER .

shadeyinka:
And they told you that a city that doesn't need the sunlight for seeing need the candlelight to see.

Rev 22:5:
"And there will be no night there. And they need no lamp, or light of the sun; for the Lord God gives them light. And they will reign forever and ever."

the op doesn't deserve your reply, he is not sincere, a reprobate minded man , he has already reject the Truth. bless you

Chosen1984:
Giving/Tithing is Scriptural.....

Infact it's a Principle through which anyone will be Blessed on this Earth.

The issue we have heard is that A whole lot of Pastors and Teachers have left the Main Reason which our Lord and Savior, JESUS CHRIST Died, Which is To Seek and Save the Lost..

They have Left the Primary Focus of the Gospel and Turned the Churches to Prosperity and Marketing centers.

They have left the Reason JESUS CHRIST Paid the utmost price and gone after Earthly acquisition like its a competition..

They have left the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST and have gone for the gospel of Marmon..

good point. they are mixing tithing and prosperity gospel. okay, tithing is old testament law ( although I disagree) because we are in the dispensation of Grace, should the old testament priests refund the tithes they received ?

what 90% cannot solve ,can 10% solved it ? and if 90% did solve it, why complained of the 10% ? I believed almost 80% of Christians, there heart are tied to there money and not God.

Michellekabod2:
Science is a neutral ground and doesn't take sides with atheism and theism. It only gives us answers to questions bothering humanity. You theists throw darts on science because you believe it's shielding us
The burden of prove rests on the shoulder of a theist to prove there is God and not vice versa. It is he who is peddling a commodity that proves to prospective customers that the commodity is of optimium value .
Hold on a second,so you feel an atheist must have scouted the entire cosmos for the existence of God before getting his reasons? You have no right to set standards for atheist. An atheist reason for being an atheist may be as petty as "if God existed he will prevent children from being raped" ,and he owes no damn soul an explanation.
Keep calling a puppy a wolf because you want to kill it.


I did send you a PM because to talk to you, meaning that I don't have time for obfuscating or back to back argument on forums but on email I can do that

to believed in God is conditional considered this word of Jesus :
And Jesus said to him, “ IF YOU CAN BELIEVE all things are possible to him who believes.” Mark 9:23.

The only ‘if’ in the statement above is whether you have faith or not. if so how was it that the burden of prove is on the believers ? at list shouldn't you be sure of what you deny ?

you exalt reason and logic, shouldn't you be sure of REALITY , before you take a position on the existence of God ? what is your gain of being an atheist ? to live life not accountable to sin ?

I don't like unfruitful argument. it only involved me when you mentioned CHRISTIANITY. thank you.

Michellekabod2:
I took a big leap of faith? Lol...no offence but you can read right? SMH...
I used to think that amongst you theists they are open minded ones.... Just to justify you faith in supernatural beings et Al, you have to nail faith on me....you are the type of fellow that does the "blame" shifting to justify yourself...
I will not argue this with you because it's like speaking to a wall....keep having your faith

YES!!! it is a giant leap of Faith , atheism seem to put a lot of stock in the empirical method and logic, why not think about this and used logic here : to prove there is no God , you need to understand the COMPREHENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF REALITY , traveled to the farthest place in the universe? The nearest star to the earth. if you haven't, I am sorry, your Faith is Even STRONGER than mine , I admire it, I must confess.

I am sorry for mentioning you, I understand you don't like it

Michellekabod2 . good evening my Lady. sorry, can't read email.

Michellekabod2:
nawa o, so God(or gods) now chose spouses for people? Your choice of a life partner isn't based on who you love and who your soul synchronizes with but with who your God wants? This delusions will not end soon,it seems

sound foolish , Right !?

Michellekabod2:
Malvisguy212, is gloating that I am mute , unbeknownst to him it's because I decided his not what my time....

alright, I accept I did not worth your time, who am I !!! almajiri ( disciple ). a weak man who don't want to jeopardize His eternity on an in complete knowledge of the univers.

Michellekabod2:
Lol I ignored the thread because of the derailing and strawmans created by you theists.. silenced who? You theists remain a butt-joke to me. The thread hijacked by your likes to obfuscate was left for you and I stopped following the thread . ..
Jubiliate as long as you can around a bonfire..all you put up there is a pile of horse poo

isn't this thread about Faith ? as an atheist , how can you defend your atheism ?;that you just woke up one morning and conclude, God does not exist , and if I ask why ? because you say so ? by FAITH we believed God exist and Jesus has PROVE IT for everyone.

if faith is delusional, so does love, fear and evil, would you confidently say that the love your mother had for you is delusional ? from childhood, your parents BELIEVED in you, they had FAITH in YOU that's why they put you in school and INVEST in your education. so you're saying they are in delusion ? I pray atheism will not bring disrespect to our LOVES one. you cannot make yourself believe that there is a pink dragon in your living room.

our desperate move is not for cleaver argument, but how you can have a powerful encounter with the one you deny, for you to encounter it you need to believe FIRST .

YOU ARE THE PROVE OF HIS EXISTENCE.

shadeyinka:
You nailed it on the head.

Atheists deny the spirit realm of which they don't know they are pawns and slaves in. In Satan's kingdom running errands (for the spirit they claim doesn't exist).

Check all over, Atheists rarely attack other religions apart from Christianity or broadly the God of Abraham. Only after they die would they see their foolishness.

Their unbelief will not stop God from existing . God bless my brother

shadeyinka:
I am honestly looking forward to when this examination here on earth will end and the final Sabbath commence.

Till then, Maranatha!

you have done Justice to this thread, the self proclaimed militants atheists , you have silent them, the bully atheist are no were to be found, the atheists may deny it, but the Truth is people walk by FAITH EVERYDAY including atheists .When you drive in your car you TRUST the brakes and you BELIEVE that when you need to stop suddenly your brakes will work, but sometimes, break do failed us.

FAITH IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE OBJECT (person or thing) IN WHICH IT IS PLACED!!! Is it possible to trust
something or someone that will never fail us? Is there someone that we can put our faith in who will never disappoint us or let us down?

Without faith there is no salvation, salvation is NOT 'what a man is doing' salvation is what God has DONE! Michellekabod2 God has already done it for you before you were born.

should the holy Communion be considered taking meal ? in fact during fasting , it is the right time to take the HOLY communion, because you shouldn't take the holy communion if you have no intension or desired to stop sinning.

shadeyinka:
Ok!
I never said you believed what you said you don't believe in.

For clarity:
1. You believe there is no creator God
2. The implication is that the universe created itself from nothing
3. You have no Empirical Evidence for the universe creating itself from nothing
4. You are no better than Christians who believe God created the Universe while not having any Empirical Evidence
5. In other words, just like the Christians, you are a FAITH man.

According to the OP, is your Faith really delusional?

Just to leave you with this quote

If the idea of your universe creating itself cannot be proved then why should you believe it?

Even though you'll disagree: Atheism is a kind of FAITH!


Cc: budaatum

succinctly. perfect.