₦airaland Forum

Snowale:
what distance are you referring to!!! They both spend 6 years in school, 1 year internship and 1 year service. What are you talking about? What qualifies an MBBS graduate to be called a given Doctors is the extra workload. A pharmacist also face similar stress and struggle in school.

Even abroad, a pharmacist can change the dosage and prescription. He reviews what the consultant demands. If a consultants already knows everything about a drug, why does he still needs to write to a pharmacist, why not get it himself, Because a pharmacist knows almost everything about drug, and he needs a pharmacist to reveiw his prescription if it's correct or wrong. You can't compare someone that studied pharmacology as a borrowed course in just one year, with someone that did it almost throughout his 6 years in school.

If a pharmacist can't be referred to as a doctor, the same should go with dentist, Vetenarians, pathologist, surgeons etc.

Pharmacology is not a borrowed course for medical students. Besides, it's not done for a year. It's much more than that. Also, pharmacy students don't do pharmacology throughout the six years. Doctors are better pharmacologists than pharmacists. During presentations, pharmacists who claimed to have studied pharmacology for years couldn't even defend themselves very well. Despite the Pharm.D, Nigerian pharmacists cannot produce drugs. They like titles.

Snowale:
You think after just 6 years in school, you know everything in all health fields and you can step into any of those fields.and come out successfully, pharmacy is too broad to be thinking about being a consultant, what's the big deal about being a consultant. When there are even better things a licensed pharmacist would do, that most consultants wished to do, I know doctors that come back for pharmacy and I know consultant that send their children to study pharmacy instead of M.bla bla bla.

I hope you won't talk about which is more lucrative, or which is paying more.
An average Doctor of Pharmacy gets more than an average of Doctor of medicine. And in terms of lucrativeness, LOL, we all know about the residency training, and how most of them later run abroad

Stop lying. How many pharmacists are richer than medical doctors? Besides, an optometrist isn't trained to do an eye surgery. He or she cannot do it. A nurse cannot do surgery too. Is it those pharmacists that roam the streets looking for jobs that you said that they're richer than doctors?

MrEgghead:
The job of a pharmacist is not to consult, diagnose and treat but they do that in disguise.

These days they even do that openly without qualms.
As a dentist you can interpret the work of a pathologist for diagnosis and treaatment...btwn a pathologist is a specialist.

There are dentists who are oral pathologists. There are dentists who are also oral and maxillofacial surgeons. There are also those ones who are consultants in oral medicine. These three do purely medical work. It's periodontists, orthodontists and paedodontists that do mainly dental work. There are even oral radiologists, prosthodontists and public health dentists too. They all undergo specialist residency training in hospitals to become consultants.

Snowale:
Just like a Dentist wouldn't do the work of a pathologist. Even though they are all Doctors.

You're funny. There are dentists who are consultant "ORAL and MAXILLOFACIAL" pathologists or simply oral pathologists, while a medical doctor colleague is a general pathologist. The difference is just the regions of the body they work on. Both of them passed through the same National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria or West African Medical College and were licensed as consultant pathologists. The general dentist is just the one who didn't specialize. There's even a specialty called general dentistry run as a residency now in the National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria for those ones who wouldn't want to go deeper in their career. Oral cancer, jaw cancer, ameloblastoma (big benign tumor in the face and/or jaw) and other pathologies in the mouth, jaw and face are being diagnosed by oral pathologists, not general pathologists.

MrEgghead:
You're right.
When I was going through the list of interns for OAUTHC, even those that had pharmD and O.D were only addressed as Mr and Mrs.
it's for the sake of the gullible populace, even the so called graduates in Nigeria can be sometimes gullible.. That's why Ph.D is as irrelevant as p in psychology in hospital setting.

That's the problem in Nigeria. Everyone wants to be called a doctor in the hospital. This is wrong.

Snowale:
Pharmacist is the specific name, just like surgeons, pathologist, Dentists, optometrist, otorhinolaryngologist, veterinarians etc. The are all Doctors. They can all be called doctor. But, a veterinarian would never risk doing the work of a Optometrist, while a pharmacist would never try doing the work of an ENT doctor.

They can all be called doctors, but in the hospital, only medical doctors and dentists are ethically permitted to bear it or answer to the title when he or she is called a doctor in the hospital. Outside of the hospital, others can answer to it when they're called doctors.

Period007:
Check the current HOD from University of Benin teaching Hospital

Didn't you see where it was shown as Pharm.D in bracket? It's unethical to write their qualifications in the hospital setting without properly indicating that it's Pharm.D. It would have been wrong if it was not indicated in bracket. Besides, it's only in writing; they don't bear it while at work in the hospital. It's appalling that Nigerians don't adhere to ethics, and nobody is punished for flouting it; that's why anybody who is not a medical doctor or dentist wants to be addressed as a doctor in the hospital. It's ok to write it and indicate it properly as Pharm.D, but it's wrong to answer it when people call him or her a doctor in the hospital.

BiggyB242:
Examination malpractice and is not like it happened that year the case was on for about 3 years. I just heard there is a new vc and he promise to call them all back. (pharmacy dept)

Ok

Samgreguc:
How do u mean endangering patients lives please?

pharmacists want to do ward round. With this Pharm.D, they'll claim they're medical doctors in the hospital. Most of them do it in their pharmaceutical shops, siting IV lines and treating patients as if they're medical doctors. Medical laboratory scientists are not left out too. They do uncountable tests and prescribe drugs. These are unethical.

Samgreguc:
Bro.. I work in a hospital and I assure u, what u are saying is fake.

In the hospital setting, only medical doctors and dentists are entitled to bear doctor. That any worker behaves anyhow or bears a doctor in the hospital doesn't mean it's proper. Nigerians condone a lot of unethical behaviour in Nigeria. We see it as a norm. It's totally wrong!

Snowale:
As far you are a pharm.D graduate, you can be called Dr. anywhere, anytime.
it doesn't affect patients at all, because all professionals knows their assigned responsibilities

It's not true. It's unethical in the hospital setting. He or she is just a pharmacist in the hospital. Nothing more.

Snowale:
they don't care if its typographical error or not. as far you are an offender you must face the panel. any one that input c in maths instead of f will face similar punishment with someone the imputed A instead of b.

you talk about reg. number, that's a minor issue, your waec and jamb results determine whether one would be admitted or not, they are more interested in knowing whether the admitted student is eligible or not

Ok; I now got your point. That means she later went back for correction, because she wouldn't have used that very one that had an error again.

Snowale:
2008, then you can only get your waec results from your school or watch office

the school you graduated would type it and print it out for you as transcript

In that case, she didn't make an effort to get her certificate. I finished secondary school many years before her, but I still collected my certificate 2 years after I wrote it. I hate statement of result.

Snowale:
There is nothing like endangering a patient's life here. anyone that goes to the hospital knows where consultants are and where pharmacists are.

meanwhile, not only doctors in human medicine and dentists are referred to as doctors. others include. vet. doctors, doctors of optometry.

I've told you that it's in the hospital setting. Others can bear it elsewhere. Veterinary doctors are also included in my list of professionals that should use it in the hospital setting, but it has to be in their veterinary hospitals and clinics.

Snowale:
No one is pure bro. Stop trying to dig into the issue.
She was suspended because there was mistake in her WAEC result. It wasn't intentional, those days WAEC results are either hand written on typed. But now, it can easily be printed directly from their site.

Mind you, she used thesame result to secure admission into another university and she was admitted. Meaning, she had a complete result. Just a typographical error occured when typing the results

I disagree with you. If it's a typographical error, it'd be corrected and she'd not be rusticated. Somebody even said here that his WAEC statement of result bore an incorrect registration number, and he was about to be expelled from UNN. He then rushed to his Alma mater and it was corrected, and UNN didn't expel him again. So, her own case must have been much more than a typographical error.

Snowale:
As a Pharm.D graduate. She are automatically a Doctor, just like Human medicine, Vetenary medical, optometry, Dentistry, etc. See doesn't have to be a PhD holder for her to be referred to as doctor

In the hospital setting, only medical doctors and dentists are qualified to be called doctors. Others can use the title elsewhere other than in the hospital. This is to avoid endangering patients' lives.

centpado:
It was WAEC statement of result , the typist made a mistake in the registration number

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Tuatara:
Impressive, however, the time it took her to get a PhD after graduation seems too short. I admire her tenacity though.

Pharm.D (doctorate in pharmacy) is a first degree, not a PhD.

ojtopsy:
Yes they do. if you claim an ELDS state and you were admitted, in your final year your sin will be revisited and you'll be asked to bring proof, na that time you go know say aboki is not smiling because they will not give you any LGA status letter to support your claim. you be Bamidele and you are claiming Maiduguri to gain game the system, continue. then you will have no choice than to go to Oluwole to seal your fate. they will give it to you their and then but that will finally nail your coffin for expulsion.

It's not true. I've seen so many people who are non-indigenes, but went directly to the local government of residence and were offered LGA indigeneship. LGA status letter is easier to get. People go with someone they know and it'll be given to them. Besides, you must present it in first year registration.

centpado:
Op congratulations to you


I read biochemistry in UNN (nsukka) and during my third year , the school had to paste my name for admission problems.... I was scared

Later found out that my WAEC results that was printed , and used for admission had an incomplete registration number , so I travelled back to my secondary school to request for my original WAEC result.

That was my saving grace

UNN should start doing online O-level verification in first year like other schools do, instead of accepting WAEC certificate or statement of result. I want to get you clear: was it an online printout from JAMB that bore the incorrect registration number?

Evercurious:
If you are caught for exam malpractice, it l be best you expel yourself by applying for a change of school before facing exam malpractice panel. Get your transcript and run to the new school

Evercurious:
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I dont know about the issue of state of origin. Moreover my coursemates expelled were Igbo's from SE . so the state of origin issue shouldn't /didnt even apply here

Ok. He said it in respect of those Igbo students attending another Igbo state's university and got that state indigeneship certificate in order to pay a low school fee.

laiza:
Men of Honor!
You're the real deal. The second time you started you weren't a novice and I think that helped. Same with me but it was Medicine and Surgery and I left in year 3 to to study Pharmacy in University of Jos.

Maybe you failed 2nd MBBS.

Evercurious:
FUTO does same..Thats VERIFICATION OF RESULTS. Some of my housemates were sent out of school 4th year first semester due to fake, incomplete results etc.. But all had to do with questionable admission..

The person wey carry the 'fake' result enter school no know?

Do schools check state of origin too or is it result that they check only? Somebody told me that
state universities usually write letters to WAEC and NECO to give them the true results of their students as well as the states of origin they wrote while registering for those exams, but I told him that they only check results, not states of origin there, yet he disagreed.

BiggyB242:
I'm telling you bro, I know of someone presently who was expelled in his final year for examination malpractice and another who was done with his clearance was called back. That's pure wickedness at least give them suspension probably 1 year or 2.

Done with clearance? What did he do?

SadiqBabaSani:
its foolhardy to make anyone believe som ragtag criminals will jst go ad ambush a 3star general jst like dt

He was a 4 star general. He was Air Chief Marshal.

Mikkysmum:
My very strong friend....we were together in UNN and she studied hard even when things were looking grim.....I thank God for success at last

Why was she expelled?

Randy100:
I don't want to sound insensitive to her case but she is to be blamed for what happened to her at UNN. I stil like her courage and determination in fighting till last. She is welcomed to the noble profession of druggist.

What caused it?

boookworm:
I can no longer see the "shit is getting real" crew or are they tired?

Where are all those who predicted that Nigeria would be a major hit cos of her poor health system, well I'm happy to announce to u that borno state alone discharged 135 Covid patient in a single day. Lol. Is God not wonderful. That porous health system is discharging 135 Covid 19 patient in a single day.

What happened to all the mysterious deaths in Kano, they have just stopped all of a sudden. And now, people are no longer falling sick and dying mysteriously in Kano, they are even recording 6 cases in 2 days with that large population

NCDC defense panel here on nairaland keep getting more questions to answer each day.

Believe it or not these figures are inflated
Covid 19 is in Nigeria but have been blown out of proportion.

You're right. I see that 40 cases of Ebonyi State as a fat lie. They're good at holding people against their wish (even when they're negative) in the stadium that he converted to an isolation centre. Truly, it's real, but it has changed from COVID 19 to COVID 419.

brain54:
illiterate: with little or no education; unable to read or write; showing such ignorance.... you call somebody with a PhD illiterate? pls convince me your not the illiterate here bros...I wonder how you know she does not advice her husband sef...or you just like talking.

Somebody with a PhD can still be an illiterate. Did her comment show that she attended school? Besides, PhD can be bought. So many people bought it, yet there's nothing in their brain. When a supposed educated person lacks humanity in him or her, he or she cannot be said to be literate. You only read my comment on the surface; you seem to lack the ability to decipher the import of my comment.

Her comment implied it. Her comment has put her out as a callous human being. The other time, her son made an unsavoury comment, and she supported him. And when the backlash was too much, she retraced her footsteps. That woman and her husband are birds of a feather. By her comments so far, I need not be told that she doesn't advise her husband. By the way, she's not a PhD holder.

MetaPhysical:
You guys use "one of the most" wrongly.

If Hadiza, with her buy one get half off phd is one of the most educated, it has to be within a pool of educated women in the North. Definitely not in Nigeria!

She can be educated and still be an illiterate. For sure she is.

PhD is now being bastardized in Nigeria. If it's not gotten from a reputable private university in Nigeria or abroad like Ghana, South Africa, etc, I don't have regard for it. Besides, it's not a measure of wisdom.