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Islam for Muslims / We Will Destroy America ... We Will Destroy Britain by mantraa: 9:44am On Jun 21, 2013
Please watch this short 2min video then let me know if you share his aspirations for Islam to dominate the world and also what it will mean for non believers like me if sharia law was finally implemented in the uk and worldwide. Would my life be worth living if I don't believe in Allah and the prophet Mohammed? Will I be forced to pay a jizya (tax) or be executed?
Respects


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I7LbG1rAq8
Religion / What Religion Has Contributed To The World This Month. Episode 7 (May/June 2013) by mantraa: 8:39am On Jun 21, 2013
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslims Must Reject Jihad. by mantraa: 10:19am On Jun 20, 2013
^^^^^
Don't need to watch it. The title is enough
No muslim will reject jihad. A hypocrite can, an apostate has ...but a Muslim?
Will Christians reject "Jesus is the son of God"?

Please watch the video then express your opinions.

How is islam ever going to progress from a 7th century religion to a 21st century religion if you wont even discuss the changes that are necessary. We are obviously not living in the 7th century anymore when the Qur'an was written, and society has changed dramatically since then. To live in peace and harmony with atheists and people of different faiths, dont you think it is important to discuss the issues that said people have about the implication of certain religious texts in the Qur'an.

I believe that most muslims want to live in peace with atheists, christians, jews, hindus, etc. and see them as equals even though they have different beliefs. How can we bring Islam into the 21st century without demanding different rules and rights for believers and non believers (who will be forced to pay a jizya tax if they dont convert to islam).
I dont want to pay a tax to remain a non believer, just like a muslim would find it unfair to pay a tax to live in a non muslim country, give up his/her belief and convert or be executed.

Respects
Islam for Muslims / Muslims Must Reject Jihad. by mantraa: 4:19pm On Jun 17, 2013
Hello my Muslim brothers and sisters.

Do you agree with the contents of this video. And if not, which part do you have a problem with and why?
All opinions are welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz267A6jhbw
Religion / Re: Christopher Hitchens - Christianity Is Immoral by mantraa: 9:01pm On Jun 16, 2013
Sure I can. What help do you need?
Religion / Oh Lord Jesus It's A Fire!!! by mantraa: 8:50pm On Jun 16, 2013
Religion / Re: Atheist Comedy - Jesus And The Dinosaurs by mantraa: 8:29pm On Jun 15, 2013
The scientific method makes more sense to me than creationism based on faith in the truth of an ancient book written by men.

Lets just agree to disagree ok
Religion / Re: Atheist Comedy - Jesus And The Dinosaurs by mantraa: 6:26pm On Jun 15, 2013
The authors imagination was a hypothesis without the benefit of modern DNA evidence which has now shown that whales slowly evolved over tens of millions of years from hippo like mammals in the shallow seas as India slowly inched on its continental plate towards mainland Europe. Not a bad guess though to suggest that whales evolved from land mammals. Would you agree with that fact?

It's good that you have a sense of humour though. Most religious people don't like any jokes about their beliefs at all. Especially Muslims.
Religion / Atheist Comedy - Jesus And The Dinosaurs by mantraa: 9:56am On Jun 15, 2013
Standup by Eddie Izzard. Jesus goes down to earth to minister to the dinosaurs. Hilarity ensues!!!
Enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afsa5gkvmlU
Religion / Christopher Hitchens - Christianity Is Immoral by mantraa: 9:35am On Jun 15, 2013
If you are Christian please watch this excellent talk by Christopher hitchens about the nature of your beliefs. You might be surprised.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaQpRZJl18


Part 2 is mainly about the even worse immorality of New Testament belief.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHuvErbpd0
Religion / Atheist Monument In America by mantraa: 7:23am On Jun 13, 2013
An atheist monument is to be erected outside an American courthouse next to the Ten Commandments listing the barbaric punishments for breaking those commandments and listing some secular / atheist quotes.
I think it's a great idea. If you can't beat them join them and hopefully it will get people thinking more rationally about their beliefs. We should do the same thing in Nigeria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plY3A4VkeUM
Religion / Atheist Comedy by mantraa: 12:17am On Jun 13, 2013
God is like a crappy girlfriend - very funny interpretation of the Abraham / Isaac story. grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQuyC3eLgVA
Religion / Re: My Dear Christian by mantraa: 7:04pm On Jun 10, 2013
Ok that's interesting, I thought that Christians believe the only way to heaven is by believing in the story of Jesus being the son of god. So do you believe that atheists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. all go to heaven if they live a good enough life?
Religion / My Dear Christian by mantraa: 10:41pm On Jun 09, 2013
Christians please watch this short sincere video then share your thoughts on it. Its about heaven and and is very thought provoking in a respectful way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VbMAwN0u7I
Religion / Religion Reverses Everything by mantraa: 10:29pm On Jun 09, 2013
This is very good, it breaks down the psychology of religious belief very well. Includes some very racist pears soap adverts from decades ago. And sexist ones too. These were considered acceptable back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vquOuWx6NlA
Religion / Re: Imagine If Everybody Was An Atheist? by mantraa: 10:10pm On Jun 09, 2013
Its a well known fact that the countries that are the least religious are the most peaceful. Religious people find it hard to compromise on their beliefs when they believe they are following their god's law. This rigid stance is always bound to cause deadly conflict especially when people are prepared to kill and die for their supernatural beliefs convinced that they are going to live an everlasting life in 'paradise'. Just look at the nightmare situation in the middle east and any other country that is as deeply religious as Nigeria for examples. I'm sure you all know this already though.
Religion / Religious Fundamentalism And The Abuse Of Children - Must See Panel Discussion by mantraa: 9:54pm On Jun 09, 2013
Excellent speakers and discussion about the abuse of children in the name of religion.
Panel: Richard Dawkins (moderator), Sean Faircloth, Janet Heimlich, Katherine Stewart, Liz Heywood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDERUr5JATw
Religion / Re: Imagine If Everybody Was An Atheist? by mantraa: 7:46pm On Jun 09, 2013
The divisions between peoples of different religions and the thousands of different interpretations within those religions will be gone, leading to a much more peacefull and rational world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhq-yO1KN8
Islam for Muslims / Re: Violence, Racial Hate, And Murder In The Qur'an? by mantraa: 10:46am On Jun 09, 2013
Thanks for the link to the online Quran. I checked and cannot see how you think my op is lies.

Here are the quotes taken directly from the online Quran:

51You who believe, do not take the Jews and Christians as allies:a they are allies only to each other. Anyone who takes them as an ally becomes one of them– God does not guide such wrongdoers.

53and the believers will say, ‘Are these the men who swore by God using their strongest oaths that they were with you?’ All they did was in vain: they have lost everything.
54You who believe, if any of you go back on your faith,b God will soon replace you with people He loves and who love Him, people who are humble towards the believers, hard on the disbelievers, and who strive in God’s way without fearing anyone’s reproach. Such is God’s favour. He grants it to whoever He will. God has endless bounty and knowledge. 55Your true allies are God, His Messenger, and the believers– those who keep up the prayer, pay the prescribed alms, and bow down in worship. 56Those who turn for protection to God, His Messenger, and the believers [are God’s party]: God’s party is sure to triumph.
57You who believe, do not take as allies those who ridicule your religion and make fun of it– whether people who were given the Scripture before you, or disbelievers– and be mindful of God if you are true believers. 58 When you make the call to prayer, they ridicule it and make fun of it: this is because they are people who do not reason. 59Say [Prophet], ‘People of the Book, do you resent us for any reason other than the fact that we believe in God, in what has been sent down to us, and in what was sent before us, while most of you are disobedient?’ 60Say, ‘Shall I tell you who deserves a worse punishment from God than [the one you wish upon] us? Those God distanced from Himself, was angry with, and condemned as apes and pigs,a and those who worship idols: they are worse in rank and have strayed further from the right path.

29Fight those of the People of the Book who do not [truly]c believe in God and the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, who do not obey the rule of justice,d until they pay the tax e and agree to submit. f 30 The Jews said, ‘Ezra is the son of God,’a and the Christians said, ‘The Messiah is the son of God’: they said this with their own mouths, repeating what earlier disbelievers had said. May God confound them! How far astray they have been led!

88[Believers], why are you divided in two about the hypocrites, when God Himself has rejected them because of what they have done? Do you want to guide those God has left to stray? If God leaves anyone to stray, you [Prophet] will never find the way for him. 89 They would dearly like you to reject faith, as they themselves have done, to be like them. So do not take them as allies until they migrate [to Medina] for God’s cause. If they turn [on you],a then seize and kill them wherever you encounter them.b Take none of them as an ally or supporter.

101 When you [believers] are travelling in the land, you will not be blamed for shortening your prayers, if you fear the disbelievers may harm you: they are your sworn enemies.

70 Leave to themselves those who take their religion for a mere game and distraction and are deceived by the life of this world, but continue to remind them with the [Quràan], lest any soul be damned by what it has done– it will have no one to protect it from God and no one to intercede; whatever ransom it may offer will not be accepted. Such are those who are damned by their own actions: they will have boil- ing water to drink and a painful punishment, because they used to defy [God].

59The dis- believers should not think they have won; they cannot escape.

5When the [four] forbidden months are over, whereverb you encounter the idolaters,c kill them, seize them, besiege them, wait for them at every lookout post; but if they turn [to God], maintain the prayer, and pay the prescribed alms, let them go on their way, for God is most forgiving and merciful. 6If any one of the idolaters should seek your protection [Prophet], grant it to him so that he may hear the word of God, then take him to a place safe for him, for they are people with no knowledge [of it]. 7How could there be a treaty with God and His Messenger for such idolaters? But as for those with whom you made a treaty at the Sacred Mosque, so long as they remain true to you, be true to them; God loves those who are mind- ful of Him. 8[How,] when, if they were to get the upper hand over you, they would not respect any tie with you, of kinship or of treaty? They please you with their tongues, but their hearts are against you and most of them are lawbreakers.

80You [Prophet] see many of them allying themselves with the disbelievers. How terrible is what their souls have stored up for them: God is angry with them and they will remain tormented.

96 [Prophet], you are sure to find them clinging to life more eagerly than any other people, even the polytheists. Any of them would wish to be given a life of a thousand years, though even such a long life would not save them from the torment: God sees everything they do.

191Kill them wherever you encounter them,d and drive them out from where they drove you out, for persecution is more serious than killing.e Do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they fight you there. If they do fight you, kill them– this is what such disbelievers deserve.



As you can see, it is not too difficult for a follower of Islam to consider the wests foreign policy in Arab lands as an act of aggression and Muslims need to fight and kill all unbelieving aggressors wherever they find them. I know that most Muslims don't take these commands to kill unbelievers literally, but a lot do consider America and Britain to be unbelievers at war with Islam and justify Muslims who carry out terrorist attacks against the west as legitimate.

Also now that the war in Iraq is over, it is Muslims (sunni and shia) killing each other over the different interpretations of the Quran. Boko haram killing Christians in Nigeria due a different interpretation of Gods words. Taliban shooting little girls in Pakistan.. Apostates be heeded in Saudi Arabia. A young man beheaded in broad daylight on the streets of London with many Muslims calling the murderer a hero and saying they have no sympathy for his mother.

If you agree with me that Islam promotes hatred of non believers, violence and murder and decide to leave Islam and become an atheist, what will be your punishment according to sharia law?
The punishment for apostasy is death! How is this not violent? There is no way out for you is there. You have to be a Muslim for life even if you disagree with the violence committed in the name of your religion. I hope that one day you find the mental strength to see through it all and accept people as equal whether Muslims, Christians, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.
We are all evoved out of Africa and want peace, equal rights, justice, unity etc . Atheists are good people too you know. We don't want to be beheaded or pay a jizya.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Violence And Hate In The Quran by mantraa: 6:41pm On Jun 08, 2013
Sorry for posting this twice. I don't know how to delete this one.
Religion / Re: Interesting Videos On Evolution/creationism/spirituality; ETC by mantraa: 5:01pm On Jun 08, 2013
Please watch this video by a 15 year old girl explaining the basic facts of evolution. Its not that difficult to understand. You just need to try to get your head around the vast timescale involved in the process, and remember that 99% of mutations are not beneficial, leading to the fact that 99% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct. However, in a constantly changing environment due to the slow process of continents moving because of plate tectonics, a very small percentage of mutations are advantageus to the new environments and climates and animal ends up in. Over millions of generations this enables natural selection to run its course and species to branch out into new variations, and eventually new species altogether. For example, All humans evolved out of Africa. The species that came out of africa first, Homo erectus are now extinct, as are homo neanderthal, and many other species of hominids whose fossils have been found. Homo Sapiens are the last surviving human specie left due to our intelligence which allowed us to manipulate our environment, create tools, use fire, farm animals and plants, build shelters etc.
In the last 100 years We have learned so much about the history of life on this planet. Dont throw it all away because of a book written by ignorant goat herders 3000 years ago who knew nothing compared to what we know now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrAQpUAfgW8
Islam for Muslims / Violence, Racial Hate, And Murder In The Qur'an? by mantraa: 3:56pm On Jun 08, 2013
Dear Muslim brothers and sisters.
Please explain how a book that contains these passages can be considered as promoting peace amongst your fellow human beings.
Or are these passages not relevant anymore?


Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. Quran 5:51

Jews and Christians are evil-livers. Quran 5:59

Don't choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians. -- Quran 5:57

Jews and Christians are losers. Quran 5:53

Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." 9:29

Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them. 9:30"

Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests. -- Quran 5:63

Christians will be burned in the Fire. -- Quran 5:72

Allah has cast enmity and hatred among the Jews. -- Quran 5:64

Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. Quran 3:73

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. Quran 4:89

The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. Quran 4:101

Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. Quran 6:70

Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. Quran 8:59-60

Don't make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted. Quran 9:7-9

Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. Quran 4:56

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.Quran 4:91

Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61

Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66

Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you. Quran 3:118

Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. Quran 5:80

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. But if they desist in their unbelief, (become Muslims) then don't kill them. 2:191-2
Islam for Muslims / Violence And Hate In The Quran by mantraa: 2:50pm On Jun 08, 2013
Dear Muslim brothers and sisters.
Please explain how a book that contains these passages can be considered as promoting peace amongst your fellow human beings.
Or are these passages not relevant anymore?


Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them. Quran 5:51

Jews and Christians are evil-livers. Quran 5:59

Don't choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians. -- Quran 5:57

Jews and Christians are losers. Quran 5:53

Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." 9:29

Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them. 9:30"

Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests. -- Quran 5:63

Christians will be burned in the Fire. -- Quran 5:72

Allah has cast enmity and hatred among the Jews. -- Quran 5:64

Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim. Quran 3:73

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. Quran 4:89

The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. Quran 4:101

Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. Quran 6:70

Don't let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. Quran 8:59-60

Don't make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted. Quran 9:7-9

Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. Quran 4:56

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.Quran 4:91

Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61

Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66

Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you. Quran 3:118

Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. Quran 5:80

Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. But if they desist in their unbelief, (become Muslims) then don't kill them. 2:191-2
Religion / Re: Atheism Has Denominations by mantraa: 11:29pm On May 30, 2013
Atheism is not a religion, it's a personal relationship with reality.
Religion / The Very Best Of Christopher Hitchens. Part 2 by mantraa: 11:51am On May 27, 2013
Excellent montage of the late Christopher hitchens at his very best. Just released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR1uorQWNDg
Islam for Muslims / Re: Statement On The Woolwich Killing By London Based Shia Muslim Scholar by mantraa: 12:08pm On May 26, 2013
Excellent speech. Well done
Religion / Re: "Good Atheists Will Go To Heaven" - Pope Frances by mantraa: 11:43am On May 26, 2013
Yay!!!
Islam for Muslims / Tommy Robinson Speaks About The Woolwich Murder Of A British Soldier by mantraa: 11:33am On May 26, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjNfQGm2HeI

Freedom of speech is important if we are to understand each others perspectives
Please watch, then share your opinions
Islam for Muslims / Woolwich Attack: English Defence League Chief And Muslim Share Hug At Protest by mantraa: 9:03am On May 26, 2013
Believers and non believers unite. Mutual respect is the only way forward. At the end of the day We are all equal regardless of race, religion, or gender. Hatred will get us nowhere.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-english-defence-league-1912413

Religion / Religion Is Unbelievable by mantraa: 8:37am On May 26, 2013
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Religion / God Is Everywhere by mantraa: 4:31pm On May 25, 2013

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