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If at all you want to tame wild animals, go for lions not tigers, crocodiles and venomous snakes. RIP!

A white woman would come here and integrate peacefully but illegal muslim immigrants would enter Europe, refuse to integrate and be shouting for rights and superiority like say na only them waka come.

God is not a magician but he did the following :

*) separating the red sea.
*) making an axe head float.
*) multiplying bread and fish.
*) turning water into wine.
*) resurrecting the dead.
*) healing deaf, dumb, blind, infirmed and crippled.
*) walking on water.
*) turning a stick into a snake.
*) setting a bush on fire without burning it.
*) reigning fire from heaven.

Saffi:
I honestly get so disgusted when I meet a guy, and he’s broke, struggling and dirty. Is that one worthy to be called a man? Can’t even afford 3 square meals yet you have the audacity to open your filthy mouth to ask any babe for her number. It actually irritates me.

A guy that is broke, struggling and dirty shouldn't be concerned about dating but he is still a man albeit a struggling and dirty one. If he is not a man then broke, struggling and dirty girls are not girls. People just need to set their priorities right. Stop hating broke boys, loving them like brothers doesn't mean you will get pregnant or married to them by force. You can still treat everyone with respect and still marry your rich boyfriend.

Valerie47:
If someone like me should UnCloth in from of you, you will know wthat khaki no be leather .

I heard your pipe got broken, can I get your address so I would come and fix it? You know leaking pipes are not good.

Ubenedictus:
you just don't get it.


The accused is ALWAYS presumed innocent I am not debating that, but the evidence required for historic abuse cases is totally different from what is required in a recent abuse case.

Testimony of a trusted witness including the accused is considered sufficient evidence. The burden of proof is usually different and there are plans in many western countries to still lessen the burden .




Child sexual abuse criminal court cases from a 12-month period were reviewed to determine the frequency and significance of physical evidence in legally "proven" felony cases with penetration. One hundred fifteen consecutive cases were reviewed, and 87 (76%) had resulted in conviction of the perpetrator on felony charges. Charges of vaginal rape were made in 88 cases, and oral and/or anal sodomy in 67 cases. Physical evidence was present in only 23% of all cases that resulted in felony convictions. Felony convictions were obtained in 67 (79%) of 85 cases without physical evidence and in only 20 (67%) of 30 cases with physical evidence. Eight of the 10 cases without physical evidence that did not result in conviction involved victims younger than 7 years of age. Cases involving the youngest victims had a significantly lower conviction rate (12 of 23), despite a very high frequency (13 of 23) of physical evidence (P less than .0005). Physical evidence was neither predictive nor essential for conviction. Successful prosecution, particularly in cases involving the youngest victims, depended on the quality of the verbal evidence and the effectiveness of the child victim's testimony.
googleweblight.com/i?u=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1881730&hl=en-NG



As you can see physical proof is not necessary, very few of such cases involved physical proof

*face-palms and sighs* have it your way. If you insist then there is nothing I can do.

5thElement:
what I don't get is how people can think that because they can't see something so that means it doesn't exist. yet these same people will believe in the concept of gravity, black holes even distant galaxies that they've never set eyes upon just because some scientists think it is possible.

talk about pontificating and dogma. its quite hilarious to listen to these same people come at you that you have no right to believe in the existence of God because we can't see him lying around taking a sun-bath somewhere.

nonsense and ingredient.

@bold
5THELEMENT : atheists think god doesn't exist because they can't see god.

ME : atheists don't believe in god because there are no evidences to prove god exists. In fact, critical analysis of religious claims shows that they are all made up by men.

@red
5THELEMENT : they believe scientific concepts because scientists say so.

ME : atheists believe scientific concepts because scientists say so with evidence.

@blue
It's your right to believe in any god want. In fact you believe that your mother's bum is your maker then no problem, it's your right. If you believe in a god, the burden of proof lies on you not the atheists. Atheists have nothing to prove.

5thElement:
I see you are referring to "we atheists". I guess you have an organization now right? don't worry, you'll form your own "church" soon.

for whatever their shortcomings, at least Christians have more things in common than a group of atheists whose only commonality is their shared belief in the non existence of a deity.

and I don't know what you mean by you know it's painful. that what happened now? that you don't believe in God? is painful to me? you must have overrated this discussion on Nairaland.

I'm sure you know that I couldn't pick you out from a two person queue, neither can you, me. so please let's cut the theatrics OK.

you are entitled to your thought process. so am I. and so are all the other religious people all over the world. stop waving your non-belief in our faces like it's some flag we should regard.

you have nothing to prove, so keep a lid on it. but lemme guess, you can't because even though you were brought up to believe in God, you have become disillusioned after many prayers and no answers. right? and now you must mock those who believe in the existence of this Deity who has refused to answer you in the past.

Lol. Still desperately trying to put atheism in the box of religion in order to gain leverage. So if someone says "we Nigerians", you would assume that they have an "organisation" and "church"?

@bold
Who told you I left god because of unanswered prayers? Do you know me? Have you seen me before? I left religion because... Oh wait, go ask the Holy Spirit. Let's assume I left god because of unanswered prayers, doesn't that make me a wise man? If I thoroughly applied biblical principles and it did not work, wouldn't it be wise of me to conclude that it's untrue? Have you seen scientists clinging to a theory that has failed upon testing it? Only retarded horsefaces defend an obvious failed idea against all odds.

Athiests don't believe in god because there are no evidences to support the existence of god. It is like not believing that unicorns are real because there are no evidences to support such. Those that claim unicorns are real are the ones that are to prove their claims. Similarly, those that say god is real are the ones that have to prove their claims.

By the way, what proof do you have that god exists?

Ubenedictus:
the accused is always presumed innocent even in those cases, in historic abuse cases the word of mouth testimony of a supposed trustworthy victim is considered evidence and if a jury disbelieves the accused then he is going to jail.


Read up on historic abuse cases in America

How man times will I correct you on this issue? Even in historic abuse cases, it's still innocent until proven guilty as those with history of sexual crime can still be falsely accused. My sister can wake up one morning and decide to say that she was raped by Bill Cosby, should you believe her because Bill Cosby has a history of sexual assaulting women? IN ALL CASES, THE LEGAL PROTOCOL IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. The fact that some liberal stupid crackhead judges ignored the legal protocol doesn't mean what they did is legal. That's the injustice in the system. It's like telling me that because politicians have looted funds through out history then it is acceptable and legal.

At least, if doesn't want pics on social media, make sure your family and her family are aware of the upcoming wedding.

Man Utd shouldn't get too excited. This match was saved by De Gea and Spurs were superior.

5thElement:
What evidence do you have that God doesn't exist?

Johnydon22, 1Sharon, myself and other athiests have said this over and over again ever XxSabrinaxX, a newcomer, just said so few days ago. We atheists don't believe in religious gods because there are no evidences to support their existence not because we have evidence that they don't exist. I know it's painful to lose your perceived leverage of atheism being a religion and requiring faith but truth is that we atheists have nothing to prove and their is no faith required in atheism. For the last time, we don't believe in a god because there are no evidences to support such. It different from saying that we are atheist because we have evidence that god doesn't exist.

On the hand, it is you guys who have something to prove as you are the ones making the claim. What is your evidence that the christian god or whatever god you believe in exists?

5thElement:
Oh I can't believe in a Creator but you can believe in the big bang. How nice.

I didn't say that you can't believe in a Creator. All I am is that Einstein wasn't religious; wasn't a catholic as you claimed and that scientists believing in god is not a good reason to believe in god. You have to look at the evidence.

5thElement:
Even if I concede that to you about Einstein, how about the other scientists too. There must be at least 15 on that list I posted but it was only Einstein you saw right?

So if 99% of scientists believed in the great juju at the bottom of the sea, you will believe as well? Enjoy your safety in numbers .

5thElement:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/dec/04/physicist-albert-einstein-god-letter-reflecting-on-religion-up-for-auction-christies

Lol. The writer is just playing mental gymnastics , the letter of Einstein says it all. At least, it shows Einstein wasn't a catholic like you claimed. As an avid student of Einstein's biography, Einstein said repeatedly that he wasn't religious in any way except in the adoration of the universe and trying to unravel it's mysteries. Einstein was a confirmed atheist.

I know many religious folks like to use the argument from authority eg. "this intelligent scientist believed in god therefore god must exist and that god is my god" because when you are supporting bullshit lies, there is safety and validity in numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble, Albert Einstein was an atheist.

When I was a little boy, Uncle Kunle told my dad "nothing in this life can make me kill myself, I dey mad?" Today makes it two months since uncle Kunle drank sniper.

LordReed:
Einstein was not an atheist, he was sort of an agnostic deist.

He was an atheist notorious for using the word "god", god to Einstein was the universe and Einstein adored and venerated what he taught were the beautiful dynamics, synchronisation and structure of the universe. He saw the worship of this god as studying and discovering it's secrets.

In the 1927 solvey conference where quantum mechanics, a fast rising field then, was being discussed, there was a debate between two groups of scientists : one (in which Neils Bohr was part of) which supported the results of quantum mechanics that the universe does yield probabilistic outcomes and the other (in which Einstein was among) which said that the entire universe give deterministic and predictable outcomes. It was during that debate the Einstein said "god does not play dice." Though Einstein's team lost.

A mixture of little "truths", over generalisation and oblivion of obvious facts. I will address it later.

5thElement:
Lol. Albert Einstein was Catholic. Even if h wasn't the fact that he didn't believe in organized religion doesn't automatically make him an atheist.

Lol. He was never catholic. This is ignorance of the first kind.

SHOCKER: Einstein was an atheist.

The Catholic is popular and ancient. It's exorcism doctrine is dramatic for movies and the environment is enabling.

5thElement:
this is the reason why I hate arguing with NL peeps. a one minute Google search would have ensured you stopped embarrassing yourself like this.

below is a list of top scientists who believed in God. and the link is also below in case you aren't too lazy to click it.

now can you get off my back and ponder that list?

https://www.famousscientists.org/25-famous-scientists-who-believed-in-god/

Lol. Albert Einstein did not believe in god. In fact a letter he wrote stating his disbelief in organised religion was auctioned recently

5thElement:
the proof of God's existence stares right back at you when you stand in front of a mirror.

One thing my grandpa was fond of saying is "any answer the human mind is bent on seeing is what it sees."

hahn:
Rape and abuse is not easy to prove and there is also the psychological implications on the victim.

I guess the main reason why women find a hard time getting support is because men have experienced their manipulative capabilities.

My wife's cousin once had a crush on a her elder brother's friend and because the guy didn't reciprocate she accused him of raping her and reporter to her brother who is a black belt karate holder.

He beat the guy black and blue only for her to confess years later that she lied and there are many men who are either dead, in prison or even worse because of a lie a woman told.

@ bold
very very very true.

@blue
Exactly. That's why I hate it when women make false rape claims as they just make it harder for real victims to be taken seriously.

@red
That's why men have grown tough and insisting on "innocent until proven guilty" no matter the emotions and drama involved. Women and many real victims are not speaking out against false rape accusers and they should.

I hope the girl got her own beating?

5thElement:
the proof of God's existence stares right back at you when you stand in front of a mirror.

One thing my grandpa was fond of saying is "any answer the human mind is bent on seeing is what it shall sees."

cococandy:
It’s not a fact because you said it. If anything,
You saying it removes from it

False rape allegations are common.

cococandy:
False rape accusations are not common. Stop spreading falsehood

They are common.

czarina:
Magical kwa? What's magical about seven?


@op, yes, it's statutory rape

Lol. I was just kidding. Pastors is Nigeria make out seven to be a magical number.

What the Op did was rape.

HellVictorinho:
Divine consciousness doesn't exist.
It is a theoretical term.
And the "whole" idea behind it doesn't make sense.

Exactly!

STILESGANG:
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STILESGANG:
Mj is innocent but kelly isnt abeg he has a tape of him of bleeping and peeing on a 14 year old.i can give you the link to watch the tape if you want

Bring the link.

cococandy:
You’re victim blaming. Because the well being of women means nothing to you

No. It is common for women to make false rape allegations. R. Kelly is innocent until proven guilty. If these b*tches are really serious, why are they shoting a documentary to make money and gather fame and sympathy when they could have gone to court? Where are their evidences?

I am concerned about the well being of women. False rape accusers makes real victims not to be taken seriously. That's why we try to fish out false claims. If you care about your fellow women who have been assaulted, you would tackle false claims and slam women who are making and profiting from false rape accusations. Why didn't they take their issue to court?