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Christianity EtcRe: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 3:23pm On Jan 12, 2019
Shelumiel:
Bro, why not post the part where I asked her if she wanted a debate , huh?
Lol. After insulting her, you are asking for a debate. grin You are funny. No one was talking about when or whether you asked her for a debate instead we are discussing who insulted first. You insulted first. Christians and logic are two strangers that hate them each other.
Christianity EtcRe: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 3:14pm On Jan 12, 2019
TheArranger:
Leave him alone. Its still paining him that's why he wants to insult her now lol.
As in cheesy. I don't think he slept well yesterday night.
Christianity EtcRe: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 3:12pm On Jan 12, 2019
Vic2Ree:
This was your first response to her post. What kind of response were you expecting lol grin?
Don't mind him. He wants to eat his cake and have it. He went about insulting Sabrina but got offended when she insulted back. If you go about insulting others, you had better not mind being insulted. He is telling me "If I wanted to rain insults , oga Seun would ban my account for life because I would give it in full measure , pressed down and running over . But , I chose to ignore her because I value this account very much..." Lol grin He tried it the other day but failed cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 3:08pm On Jan 12, 2019
Shelumiel:
If I wanted to rain insults , oga Seun would ban my account for life because I would give it in full measure , pressed down and running over . But , I chose to ignore her because I value this account very much ; however , if she wants us to start slinging mud , I'm all game bro
grin

CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 3:07pm On Jan 12, 2019
Xisnin:
Court cannot handle most cases, that doesn't mean that rapist have to go scot free.
I had a friend I will never lend money again because of past experience.
Guess what?
He is neither a fraudster or thief in the eyes of the court even though he never paid
back as he promised. The court doesn't even know he exists. That doesn't mean he is to be trusted.

I am sure there are hundreds of "innocent" people in jail for fraud, robbery or
even murder but you won't find a single soul defending a regular robber, ritualist or murderer
with "false accusation" excuse when they get reported in the news even though it is possible
that they are falsely being accused.


But in case of rape, certain people get worked up because false accusation cases exist.
These same people will agree when you name certain politicians and call them corrupt
without evidence but would be quick to ask for "concrete" evidence when a rape victim come forward.

When the Catholic church was embroiled is sex abuse scandals, I didn't see the pro-rapist group
demand for solid evidence from the young boys who were victims.

If we use the standard of criminal evidence, the Catholic priest actually did nothing wrong
because the altar boys didn't have "evidence" to prove their case just testimonies.

When last did you ask for evidence when a politician in the other camp is reported stolen in the papers?
Did you create several posts talking about innocent until proven guilty?
Chances are that you automatically call for their head and berated those who doubt the charges.

You can now see that you don't really believe in innocence until proven, you are just saving your own head.
So you are saying that we should just believe the women? You are still emotional and writing trash. What concerns me with double standard people? Didn't I say that the court ASSUMES an accused innocent until proven guilty? Fail judicial system or not, every accused is to be assumed innocent until proven guilty? Mtewwwww.

#innocentuntilprovenguilty
Christianity EtcRe: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 2:42pm On Jan 12, 2019
Shelumiel:
Disgraced me ? How please ...?Look , Sabrina is a nobody, so why should I stoop to her level of insults. If she wanted to debate , should wouldn't be throwing insults , but such should be expected from a degenerate
Lol. Be careful with the tigress. In fact I suggest you delete this post. Mind you, you started the insults but it seems you don't like being paid in your own coin. grin cheesy
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:36pm On Jan 12, 2019
openmine:
Am actually shocked by the reactions that an "allegation" is generating esp from well educated celebrities who should know that one is innocent until the person is pronounced guilty!

Same happened to Star actor Steven seagal who was accused last year by a lady to have sexually abused her 30 years ago....ofcourse steven seagal denied it and the story has died a natural death since then!

The worse is the daughter who should have kept silent rather than saying what she doesn't know simply because of the hatred she has for her father as seen in the post!

I still remember a picture message I saw some years ago about a football player who was accused of sexually assaulting a lady and was jailed!
After 12 years,this same lady goes to court asking the judge to drop the charges and acquit the football player!
Her reason was that she had lied all this time and the player never raped her!
You can imagine how the guy felt after spending 12 years in prison for a crime that he never committed!

I am not in any way trying to condone sexual abuse from anyone....however,we must be very careful how we react to accusations from rape victims....Let the court do their job!
Xisnin, I hope you can see this? I am sure that before that man went to jail, the theatrical emotional display by the women were believed by id1ots like Xisnin. I even know of a similar case but the man spent 6 years in jail.

#innocentuntilprovenguilty
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:35pm On Jan 12, 2019
openmine:
Am actually shocked by the reactions that an "allegation" is generating esp from well educated celebrities who should know that one is innocent until the person is pronounced guilty!

Same happened to Star actor Steven seagal who was accused last year by a lady to have sexually abused her 30 years ago....ofcourse steven seagal denied it and the story has died a natural death since then!

The worse is the daughter who should have kept silent rather than saying what she doesn't know simply because of the hatred she has for her father as seen in the post!

I still remember a picture message I saw some years ago about a football player who was accused of sexually assaulting a lady and was jailed!
After 12 years,this same lady goes to court asking the judge to drop the charges and acquit the football player!
Her reason was that she had lied all this time and the player never raped her!
You can imagine how the guy felt after spending 12 years in prison for a crime that he never committed!

I am not in any way trying to condone sexual abuse from anyone....however,we must be very careful how we react to accusations from rape victims....Let the court do their job!
Xisnin, I hope you can see this? I am sure that before that man went to jail, the theatrical emotional display by the women were believed by id1ots like Xisnin. I even know of a similar case but the man spent 6 years in jail.
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:32pm On Jan 12, 2019
RTSC:
Maybe when he fingers your daughter, or turn her into a sex pet like he did other people's daughters you would know the gravity of the nonsense you are vomiting.
Ogbeni use your head. How do you know he did that? Any concrete evidence to assert such or are you just going emotional like the soyboys and feminists on this thread?

#innocentuntilprovenguilty.
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:27pm On Jan 12, 2019
Vinstel:
I think the monsters are people who accuse someone and go ahead to pronounce him guilty without giving him a chance to defend himself or recourse to due process like taking him to court or presenting whatever "evidence" they have to law enforcement to prosecute him. Those are the real monsters here. A universally accepted legal maxim says Audi alterem patem, always give both sides a fair hearing before passing judgement
gbam!

#innocentuntilprovenguilty.
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m):
mvem:
...how will a 12 year old come out to talk... How!... The guy is a paedophile and you still defending him... I think you say all this because none of your young sister or relation was involved if not you will understand the gravity of what this guy has been doing for more than 20 years..... He had the money to shut people mouth and settle out of court... Go read in details right from the 90s... You love a sick mofo
Ogbeni shut it! Children have been manipulated, pressured and brainwashed to testify falsely in the court of law. What if her mother is brainwashing her? Have you not seen when such has happened? Stop all this childish emotional tantrum. R. Kelly is innocent until evidences say otherwise.

#innocentuntilprovenguilty
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:20pm On Jan 12, 2019
Xisnin:
Everyone like his daughter.
What a failure of a man. It is unfortunate that a monster who is universally hated
by friends and family is your role model.
Anyone can be against your success even your blood. Mtewwwww.

#innocentuntilprovenguilty tongue

Christianity EtcRe: The Origin Of Madness : The Three Smart Crooks by Martinez19(op): 2:14pm On Jan 12, 2019
I have all chapters sorted out but I am taking a few days break. Thank you. grin
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:12pm On Jan 12, 2019
TimiRume:
Sexists all over the thread. They said we should wait until proven guilty but they are on R Kelly's side already.
Bring out evidence and we leave R. Kelly's side or else all what these women dey yarn na story for the gods.

#innocentuntilprovenguilty tongue
CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 2:09pm On Jan 12, 2019
Xisnin:
Very dumb comment.
The court doesn't determine innocence.

It either convicts or acquits based on available evidence.
It is funny when rapist who escaped prison always talk about false allegations
when anyone with a brain cell knows that convicting a person with a good lawyer
is very difficult regardless of the crime.

The good news is that life will become more difficult for rapists going forward as
paying victims to keep quiet will no longer work as they would take the money and
still come forward on time when the evidence is still fresh.
What the hell is wrong with you? I never said court determines innocence and I never mentioned the court, did I? In fact in the court of law, every accused is ASSUMED innocent until proven guilty except if the evidence says otherwise. If the evidence says you are guilty, you are convicted but if the evidences are not concrete, you are acquitted and assumed innocent until proven guilty. This is a very logical position by the court of law for good reasons and to prevent false allegations. tongue grin tongue

@bold
You can see why I said innocent until proven guilty. How do you know that they were rapist? The only way for them to escape prison is if there is no concrete evidence to find them guilty. So if there is not concrete evidence, how do you know that they were rapist? They are assumed innocent until proven guilty. tongue

R. Kelly is to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. Basically, you are just emotional at the expense of your reasoning and this is how many women are and that is why I said people should disregard the emotional display by women and focus in the evidence. Lastly, don't act as if there are no instances of false rape allegations in the past because that would be very dishonest. Very dumb girl. tongue

@red
Na you sabi. Dumb girl. tongue
Christianity EtcRe: The Origin Of Madness : The Three Smart Crooks by Martinez19(op): 1:41pm On Jan 12, 2019
NB: this is fiction and it's under no obligation to conform with reality.

CHAPTER SEVEN : clash in the royal court.

After Mattan had confronted the people that morning, they went home excited by what they've heard and a blanket of radical awakening had covered the entire lower class. They could not stop talking about Mattan's beliefs and the discussion about Mattan's words preoccupied them from that morning till evening. Unsurprisingly, word reached the king very late in the evening through Jothem, the royal informant and servant, about what was happening.

JOTHEM : (runs into the palace with a sense of urgency and bows before the king). my king! Your highness! I bring urgent news, very urgent news.

KING : what could that be?

JOTHEM : three subjects of yours has spread heresies that propose that ancestors do not reincarnate and that the sun, moon and earth are mere objects and are not to be worshiped. They also said...

KING : (exceedingly furious and offended. He interrupts Jothem and scream at the top of his voice). silence! Silence I say and do not go any further. Such blasphemy and defiance must not be spoken by any man, especially in my palace. Who are responsible for this nonsense? Answer me!

JOTHEM : three men are responsible. They are Mattan, Zadok and Achim. They...

GENERAL : (walks in, bows before the king and interrupts Jothem) your highness, I was just informed by someone called Sephias about the spread of some blasphemies by three friends. They said...

THE KING : (interrupts) I have just been informed by Jothem. First thing tomorrow morning, you and your men shall seize those friends, bring them to the royal court and have them put them on trial. (to Jothem) Make sure you inform the priests, elites and everyone that there shall be a trial tomorrow. (to both) That shall be all for today, have I made myself clear?

GENERAL AND JOTHEM : yes my Lord! (bow and leave).

Early next morning, while Jothem had gone to deliver the king's message, the general was assembling his men in front of the royal court and suddenly, a large crowd shouting "long live the creator" was rapidly approaching the royal court. They crowd were fearless because Mattan had told them that they have the creator's backing and to the general's horror, he and his men were taken unawares.

GENERAL : (steps in front of the crowd and scream). stop this madness. You cannot defy the royal court. Don't you know that...

MATTAN : (interrupts in a mocking manner and savoring his new authority) who the hell do you think you are?

GENERAL : (so shocked) Mattan!

MATTAN : are you for the creator or not?

GENERAL : blasphemy! (draws out his sword and tries to arrest the friends).

The people were having none of that and they easily subdued the general and the few soldiers there. They stab and killed the general and his men. They people were fierce and fearless. The general's decapitated head was held by Mattan and the rest were placed on spikes.

KING : (looks out from his window, terrified and shocked and what he is seeing). what is going on?

The noisy crowd, still chanting "long live the creator," storms into the royal court. In the court, the priests, lawyers, judges, scholars and elites were present. They were all shocked and horrified at what saw.

MATTAN : (signals to the crowd to be calm).

THE PEOPLE : (suddenly become silent).

MATTAN : (subtly sending a political message to the king). you know that whatsoever power a king has is given to him by the people and the people can decide to take it back. (raises the general's head) as you can see, general was respected and revered when he spoke and he was readily obeyed because the people wanted it so and now we have taken it back and look where he has ended. Don't you think that the same applies to the king now that he is surrounded by his people who are ready to kill at my command? Are you for the creator or not?

KING : (petrified and confused, he speaks in shaky voice) creator? Who is this creator?

Before Mattan could explain, there were chants of "long live the creator" from a small group behind the crowd and to the three friends delight, they were 99% of the remaining soldiers. The soldiers too had bought into the belief system on hearing the rumours yesterday. The three friends smiled to themselves because this was total victory and there was no stopping them. The king himself understood this.

MATTAN : (to the royal families and elites with glee and pride) as you can see, either you are for the creator or you die because we can't permit sin in the land and lose the creators benefits. (to the people) isn't that so?

THE PEOPLE : (scream at the top of their voices while lifting their weapons) long live the creator! Down with the creator!

KING : tell me about this creator.

MATTAN : I shall tell you about the creator but you and the elites must promise not to interrupt. Do I make my self clear?

ROYAL FAMILY AND ELITES : okay!

MATTAN : (clearly and cleverly explains his belief system, it's answers and benefits to the upper class for the next forty-five minutes and hoping they fall for it like the people).

Thanks to human stupidity, an overwhelming majority of elites were won over except five scholars and the king who is biased towards his beliefs and angry at being humiliated by Mattan. These scholars had been atheists and non-worshippers but had pretended to worshippers so as not to upset the king. The rest of the royal family fell for the belief system. As usual, it was still the same "only the creator could have known this." fallacy. There was an uproar and panic in the royal court.

KING : (hiding his anger and knowing that he has to play along) I accept the creator. In fact, it shall be a law that only the creator shall be worshipped from henceforth.

THE PEOPLE : (joyous) long live the king! Long live the creator!

MATTAN : my king, since you have agreed to believe in the creator and do his will, he approves your kingship and you shall treat the people better. You must also agree that a new constitution shall put in place and this constitution shall be based on the creators directives. I shall relay these directives later to you. You know that the people shall not lose the creators benefits. Agree or be purged, what says the king?

KING : (gets more angry but decides to hide it and play along) of course, so shall it be. Long live the creator.

THE PEOPLE : (joyous) long live the king! Long live the creator! Long live the king! Long live the creator!

KING : (thinking to himself) I have indeed lost the people to this blasphemy and I cannot control them and keep my throne except I accept this blasphemy. I have to play along or lose my throne and die. Even my queens, children and elites have have fallen for this blasphemy. How dare Mattan humiliate me? Indeed, I now realise that power is given by the people. My saving grace are the scholars and I shall discuss with them later to see how I can salvage my people from this blasphemy. I have to find a way to deal with the three friends but it seems that's going to be hard because the soldiers are now for him.

MATTAN : we have indeed succeeded today and it's a great victory for the creator. We shall be here on the next work free day to make the new constitution and hand over our land and throne to the creator.

KING : no problem, as the creator leads I shall follow.

MATTAN : very well then, we shall leave for now. (signals to the people to leave).

THE PEOPLE : (leaving for their homes). long live the creator! Long live the king! Long live creator! Long live the king!

A minute after the people had left the royal court, the five scholars approached the king.

ATHEIST SCHOLAR 1 : my king, the kingdom is surely at a critical moment in it's history. Grant us a meeting with you. (bows).

KING : I was about to say the same thing. Indeed we need a meeting. I will call you when I am ready. I have to take a rest. (signals for all the to leave the royal court).

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
The three friends were walking home through a different route after visiting the king.

ZADOK : it was like a dream when I saw the king helpless right before us. If not for Mattan, I would have unleashed my wrath on that corrupt and condescending fool. Our authority is confirmed.

ACHIM : I was glad when we stabbed and killed the general. He was so full of himself. I can't wait for our next meeting with the king. It's only a matter of time before we start earning our ten percent.

MATTAN : of course, that shall be in the new constitution. The people wouldn't mind when they start reaping steadily. We have to not get over excited for there is more to do. I observed that the king and some scholars were not buying into our bullshit but I don't care about the scholars, the king's allegiance is very important and advantageous. There is indeed more to be done.
RomanceRe: Mention Two Things You Know Are Sweeter Than Sex by Martinez19(m): 4:53pm On Jan 11, 2019
1) great wealth
2) sound health and "complete" body.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 4:50pm On Jan 11, 2019
HellVictorinho:
I never used or admitted to using "'word salads"'!!!!!
I only implied that I can call or describe anyone's writings as "word salads" just as you did in my case!!!!!!
I am not proposing any idea!!!!!
7D stuff was mentioned as a way of making the possibility of spirit realms look unreal!!!!
It could have been 20D!!!!,
Skepticism involves doubting things for whatever reason and it exists in the science field as well (forget about spirits)!!!
If anyone can't read or is overly stupid thereby calling me a fraud,he or she can as well stick to his or her predicament because I only give a Bleep when I'm ready!!!!!!
Okay. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 4:09pm On Jan 11, 2019
HellVictorinho:
I don't need your approval here.
And you started by taking out "also" and "names" in one of my sentences.
I can't believe you think I am actually supposing 7D stuff.
The spirit realm can only be possible if 7D stuff is possible. (get it?)

I used the word 'understandable' for a reason dude,you can't know everything!!!
It is also stupid to state that I am proposing ideas.
I am not proposing anything.
And you are not in the position to lecture me on the use of "nature".
You also ignored my use of "if" in one or two of my sentences,which was stupid.
Cherishing skepticism leads to rejecting propositions even when they are verifiable.
But you think you can determine the meaning of words like a dictionary!!!
Lastly,"word salads" can be used by anyone.
I can also use it to describe anything anyone is saying.
I don't think I ignored anything, show me where I ignored something. I was only asking you try to express your idea clearly. You write-up had unnecessary word salads. I know anyone can use word salads, all I am saying is that if you use them very unnecessarily, bright minds won't take you seriously and you would come across like a fraud or proponent of bullshit.

@ red
No it can't and doesn't. Can you give an instance? I challenge you to.

@bold
I never said you were. I was simply asking why "7D"? How did you come about "7D"? Why not "8D" or "9D"? That's my question.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 3:00pm On Jan 11, 2019
HellVictorinho:
All these for conviction?
Anyway, as regards the matter of what is unseen,I can't see "bacterium" but I know it exists because it is also a word that names what affects us physically.
Bacterium is known to exist not because it is a word that affects us physically but because it can be seen through a microscope and it has been studied. Had it been it cannot be seen, bacteria infections would have described by modern medicine as ailments with an identifiable cause. Scientists didn't believe in bacteria until they saw it using a microscope and the same applies for spiritual claims -- seeing is believing.

It is described as extremely tiny to human sight which is understandable.
I wouldn't use the word "understandable." It is described as "tiny" to the unaided human eyes because it is so indeed except with the aid of a microscope.

But all the conditions you have given for your conviction will never be met by the proponents of the reality of the other-Normals.
And that is why they are other-Normals.
For the sake of those that have experienced the "Screwing of the Normal"(by acclamation: a situation whereby someone witnesses the suspension of natural processes in a strange manner),it will be necessary for the "Screwing of the other-Normals"(a situation whereby the most strange/bewildering of occurrences are deciphered as regards their possibility considering the magnitude of their significance) to take place by the purposeful and strategic attempt of demystifying the most strange and mysterious possibilities which will involve the unimaginable act whereby all the accessible non-religious/non-spiritually inclined individuals under a certain umbrella decide to go on the most unimaginable of adventures where the sole objective is to destroy every possible remnant of truth in the claim that there are places where 7D-Realms can be actualized.
If the 'Possibility of Spirit/7D-Realms' is not down to Mind-Projections,Death must be involved and that is where the story begins.......
You can't actually screw the other-Normals and remain Normal.
word salads with pepper stew grin. Try to be simple and lucid in explaining your ideas. Only frauds and proponents of ridiculous garbages use meaningless word salads. They do this to confuse people they are trying to win over and confuse intellectuals who are trying to debunk and call them out. Please, be clearer on what you mean.

You must contend with at least one of these side effects including :pure insanity,doubled life(involving a death-induced connection),and a myriad of encounters with unexpected phenomena that can only take you back to what you screwed to become what you understand as Normal again.....
more word salads. If you can't express simple things in simple words using their proper definition, no bright mind should take you seriously.

I don't believe in "spirits/gods/crazy designers/first cause to no cause/beginning without beginning/divine consciousness/confused 'Alls'"
But skepticism should neither be cherished nor abandoned.
Skepticism should be cherished and never be abandoned. It is that skepticism that science expanded to benefit you and me.

And we have to stop using words like "more powerful/more intelligent" to describe supposed 7D/Spirit Realm Beings.
Why do you call them 7D? Who told you they were 7D? We are just talking about supposedly spiritual beings from the perspective of religious claims. Isn't god more powerful than Satan and the angels on both sides?

Based on what we know about the pointless and illogical impression given by what we call 'Nature', "Super-Nature" can only provide us with the greatest magnitude of obscure absurdities.
What do you mean by "Super-Nature"? If it means the supernatural then I would agree with you here. Why put "nature" in quote?

Lastly,what can only be described as nonsense must be described as nonsense so Religion (a Crime against Humanity) as well as certain traditions/customs/movements/systems, etc must be regarded by only those who are overly attached to them as anything else other than practical nonsense!!!!!
This is clearly illogical despite the word salads. Why don't you be clear and simple on what you mean? grin
Christianity EtcRe: How Religious People Think The Burden Of Proof Works by Martinez19(m): 2:16pm On Jan 11, 2019
ME : aren't talking donkey, the creation story and talking snake irrational?

CHRISTIAN : it depends on what you mean by "irrational"?

ME :

Christianity EtcRe: How Religious People Think The Burden Of Proof Works by Martinez19(m): 2:10pm On Jan 11, 2019
CHRISTIAN : god has already provided healing and miracles for his children.

ME : how come they are still dying from cancer and HIV?

CHRISTIAN : god has provided but it's left for them to receive it by faith.

ME :

CelebritiesRe: Buku Abi, R. Kelly's Daughter Reacts To Sex Abuse Scandal, Calls Him ''Monster by Martinez19(m): 1:46pm On Jan 11, 2019
Innocent until proven guilty. No matter the emotions and theatrical display, never trust women when it comes to sexual abuse/assault if there is no shred of evidence to back up their claims. If you see the manner and number of false rape allegations and the damages it has wrecked on many men, you will fear women. So if there is no evidence, discard their claims like it never happened. Thanks to false rape accusers, no one takes the mere complaint of real victims seriously.
RomanceRe: "What My Fiance Did For Me After Breaking My Leg In An Accident". Photos by Martinez19(m): 11:22am On Jan 11, 2019
drake2000x:
Very touching but all I read was she is benefiting from him. What are you doing for him? You mentioned her was from a wealthy family when you met him...would you have given him a chance if he was from a poor family?
Lol. I too was wondering. If the guy's parents were as broke as her parents and couldn't afford the bills, what shall he become? If you have a lot of money and you are a lady's fool then you are a nice person. That's the only way.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 9:04am On Jan 11, 2019
Originakalokalo:
I was a chronic fornicator....i have done the unimaginable...

Now, I have a life in Jesus.

I live a holy and righteous life....by the help of the Holy Spirit...

Fasting was difficult.... I loved my food.

Now, I could go seven days..... Fasting is easier.

Vigil was very difficult. I loved my sleep. Now, I can go on and on in vigils...

It is easier to listen to the Holy Spirit....

He tells me ...You have to forgive that man.... You have no Choice.... and I just obey....

I have experienced miracles.....
I have heard revelations.... things I dare not say....

Do you want evidence?

Just take a look at my life. It is a transformed life.

That's my evidence....of the realness of Jesus...

Of the Holy Ghost...

A. Miracle that was documented by YouTube.... It was a lame woman.... Someone had brought her to a crusade in Russia to spite pastor kumuyi...

He positioned the woman at the entrance to spite him.

So that after the crusade he would just show people... To spite Jesus...

Unknown to Pastor kimuyi, as he prayed.. The woman got up and walked.

The woman's picture of before and after flooded Russian internet...

That was when pastor kumuyi knew what had happened...

The woman's name, etc is online.

People who had seen cannot be convinced.
.

You will only waste your time with them.

Yes, there are fake miracles.... Many.

But People had witnessed what the name of Jesus can do through pastors who are Gods ambassadors INDEED.

On nairaland, there is no proof of Jesus, people are living Christianity...

While in the real world,

A lot is happening in Jesus name.

Let Pastor kumuyi of deeper life bible church call a crusade close to your house...

You will know that Jesus reigns.

All rants and gimmicks end here.


Go out there and see Jesus.

You have read my experience.. you haven't even read anything.... many more abound.

Ask people who have experienced Jesus Christ first hand.... They will tell you a lot.


Jesus is Lord.
foolishness shrouded in childish emotional display.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 11:43pm On Jan 10, 2019
Legend has it that Shelumiel is still on the run. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 11:37pm On Jan 10, 2019
Niflheim:
"Park well useless animal"...........says the Christian who Belongs to a religion where they eat grass like gullible goats, eat rats like r.etarded ruminants, eat frogs like foolish fucktards and eat snakes like senseless
shitheads!!!
Don't mind them. They claim their god is omnipotent yet he needs ten percent of their salary. Not even a horse would flop like that.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 11:34pm On Jan 10, 2019
MhizAngel99:
Hands down one of the most legendary Nairaland threads, it needs to be archived grin.
R.I.P Shelumiel's NL account. And he only joined last year lol.
I agree. Seun, please come and archive this thread.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 11:01pm On Jan 10, 2019
XxSabrinaxX:
LMAO!! You are THE definition of lowlife grin grin. You have the audacity to call me a lowlife with that your mouth that smells like a stripper locker room when I have more talent in my smallest fart than you have in your entire body. If hell exists, its probably wallpapered with your deleted pictures. 80 % of the brain is fluid. Unfortunately, in your case, it's brake fluid. You probably sent pictures of your dick to girls in your school, and asked them "hey, can you help me finish this joke?". You're so sad you'll probably still be masturbating at age 60 grin grin grin
Keep talking, at this rate you're going to have nightmares of this thread. I promise you.
Blood of Christ!

Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 10:58pm On Jan 10, 2019
Vic2Ree:
This thread should be renamed "The Shaming & Decimation of Shelumiel" grin grin grin. @XxSabrinaxX severely flogged his ass cheesy grin
#Roasted
Sabrina is one of a kind, I will start following her thread for fun. For too long we atheists have been gentlemen and gentlewomen presenting our sound arguments only to be subjected to resounding stvpidity and insults from the christards. Nice to see someone who can repay them in kind when it comes to insult and it seems the christards are angry when insulted but they wouldn't mind insulting atheists.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And The Burden Of Proof... by Martinez19(m): 10:53pm On Jan 10, 2019
Vic2Ree:
LMAO. OP are we still talking of the burden of proof? grin
It seems the heavy burden of proof has crushed Shelumiel. grin
Christianity EtcRe: If God Is Beyond This Universe How Is There Gold In Heaven? by Martinez19(m): 10:40pm On Jan 10, 2019
Heartbender:
Heaven is not a part of the universe. Gold, in this context, is a metaphor. It represents something close to what human knowledge can grasp and imperfect language can transmit. Indeed, anything so precious is often called gold to "communicate" the writer's sense-perception in mortal understanding.
How did you know this? Who told you this?

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