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Shelumiel:Lol. After insulting her, you are asking for a debate. You are funny. No one was talking about when or whether you asked her for a debate instead we are discussing who insulted first. You insulted first. Christians and logic are two strangers that hate them each other. |
TheArranger:As in . I don't think he slept well yesterday night. |
Vic2Ree:Don't mind him. He wants to eat his cake and have it. He went about insulting Sabrina but got offended when she insulted back. If you go about insulting others, you had better not mind being insulted. He is telling me "If I wanted to rain insults , oga Seun would ban my account for life because I would give it in full measure , pressed down and running over . But , I chose to ignore her because I value this account very much..." Lol He tried it the other day but failed ![]() |
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Xisnin:So you are saying that we should just believe the women? You are still emotional and writing trash. What concerns me with double standard people? Didn't I say that the court ASSUMES an accused innocent until proven guilty? Fail judicial system or not, every accused is to be assumed innocent until proven guilty? Mtewwwww. #innocentuntilprovenguilty |
Shelumiel:Lol. Be careful with the tigress. In fact I suggest you delete this post. Mind you, you started the insults but it seems you don't like being paid in your own coin. ![]() |
openmine:Xisnin, I hope you can see this? I am sure that before that man went to jail, the theatrical emotional display by the women were believed by id1ots like Xisnin. I even know of a similar case but the man spent 6 years in jail. #innocentuntilprovenguilty |
openmine:Xisnin, I hope you can see this? I am sure that before that man went to jail, the theatrical emotional display by the women were believed by id1ots like Xisnin. I even know of a similar case but the man spent 6 years in jail. |
RTSC:Ogbeni use your head. How do you know he did that? Any concrete evidence to assert such or are you just going emotional like the soyboys and feminists on this thread? #innocentuntilprovenguilty. |
Vinstel:gbam! #innocentuntilprovenguilty. |
mvem:Ogbeni shut it! Children have been manipulated, pressured and brainwashed to testify falsely in the court of law. What if her mother is brainwashing her? Have you not seen when such has happened? Stop all this childish emotional tantrum. R. Kelly is innocent until evidences say otherwise. #innocentuntilprovenguilty |
Xisnin:Anyone can be against your success even your blood. Mtewwwww. #innocentuntilprovenguilty ![]()
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I have all chapters sorted out but I am taking a few days break. Thank you. ![]() |
TimiRume:Bring out evidence and we leave R. Kelly's side or else all what these women dey yarn na story for the gods. #innocentuntilprovenguilty ![]() |
Xisnin:What the hell is wrong with you? I never said court determines innocence and I never mentioned the court, did I? In fact in the court of law, every accused is ASSUMED innocent until proven guilty except if the evidence says otherwise. If the evidence says you are guilty, you are convicted but if the evidences are not concrete, you are acquitted and assumed innocent until proven guilty. This is a very logical position by the court of law for good reasons and to prevent false allegations. ![]() @bold You can see why I said innocent until proven guilty. How do you know that they were rapist? The only way for them to escape prison is if there is no concrete evidence to find them guilty. So if there is not concrete evidence, how do you know that they were rapist? They are assumed innocent until proven guilty. ![]() R. Kelly is to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. Basically, you are just emotional at the expense of your reasoning and this is how many women are and that is why I said people should disregard the emotional display by women and focus in the evidence. Lastly, don't act as if there are no instances of false rape allegations in the past because that would be very dishonest. Very dumb girl. ![]() @red Na you sabi. Dumb girl. ![]() |
NB: this is fiction and it's under no obligation to conform with reality. CHAPTER SEVEN : clash in the royal court. After Mattan had confronted the people that morning, they went home excited by what they've heard and a blanket of radical awakening had covered the entire lower class. They could not stop talking about Mattan's beliefs and the discussion about Mattan's words preoccupied them from that morning till evening. Unsurprisingly, word reached the king very late in the evening through Jothem, the royal informant and servant, about what was happening. JOTHEM : (runs into the palace with a sense of urgency and bows before the king). my king! Your highness! I bring urgent news, very urgent news. KING : what could that be? JOTHEM : three subjects of yours has spread heresies that propose that ancestors do not reincarnate and that the sun, moon and earth are mere objects and are not to be worshiped. They also said... KING : (exceedingly furious and offended. He interrupts Jothem and scream at the top of his voice). silence! Silence I say and do not go any further. Such blasphemy and defiance must not be spoken by any man, especially in my palace. Who are responsible for this nonsense? Answer me! JOTHEM : three men are responsible. They are Mattan, Zadok and Achim. They... GENERAL : (walks in, bows before the king and interrupts Jothem) your highness, I was just informed by someone called Sephias about the spread of some blasphemies by three friends. They said... THE KING : (interrupts) I have just been informed by Jothem. First thing tomorrow morning, you and your men shall seize those friends, bring them to the royal court and have them put them on trial. (to Jothem) Make sure you inform the priests, elites and everyone that there shall be a trial tomorrow. (to both) That shall be all for today, have I made myself clear? GENERAL AND JOTHEM : yes my Lord! (bow and leave). Early next morning, while Jothem had gone to deliver the king's message, the general was assembling his men in front of the royal court and suddenly, a large crowd shouting "long live the creator" was rapidly approaching the royal court. They crowd were fearless because Mattan had told them that they have the creator's backing and to the general's horror, he and his men were taken unawares. GENERAL : (steps in front of the crowd and scream). stop this madness. You cannot defy the royal court. Don't you know that... MATTAN : (interrupts in a mocking manner and savoring his new authority) who the hell do you think you are? GENERAL : (so shocked) Mattan! MATTAN : are you for the creator or not? GENERAL : blasphemy! (draws out his sword and tries to arrest the friends). The people were having none of that and they easily subdued the general and the few soldiers there. They stab and killed the general and his men. They people were fierce and fearless. The general's decapitated head was held by Mattan and the rest were placed on spikes. KING : (looks out from his window, terrified and shocked and what he is seeing). what is going on? The noisy crowd, still chanting "long live the creator," storms into the royal court. In the court, the priests, lawyers, judges, scholars and elites were present. They were all shocked and horrified at what saw. MATTAN : (signals to the crowd to be calm). THE PEOPLE : (suddenly become silent). MATTAN : (subtly sending a political message to the king). you know that whatsoever power a king has is given to him by the people and the people can decide to take it back. (raises the general's head) as you can see, general was respected and revered when he spoke and he was readily obeyed because the people wanted it so and now we have taken it back and look where he has ended. Don't you think that the same applies to the king now that he is surrounded by his people who are ready to kill at my command? Are you for the creator or not? KING : (petrified and confused, he speaks in shaky voice) creator? Who is this creator? Before Mattan could explain, there were chants of "long live the creator" from a small group behind the crowd and to the three friends delight, they were 99% of the remaining soldiers. The soldiers too had bought into the belief system on hearing the rumours yesterday. The three friends smiled to themselves because this was total victory and there was no stopping them. The king himself understood this. MATTAN : (to the royal families and elites with glee and pride) as you can see, either you are for the creator or you die because we can't permit sin in the land and lose the creators benefits. (to the people) isn't that so? THE PEOPLE : (scream at the top of their voices while lifting their weapons) long live the creator! Down with the creator! KING : tell me about this creator. MATTAN : I shall tell you about the creator but you and the elites must promise not to interrupt. Do I make my self clear? ROYAL FAMILY AND ELITES : okay! MATTAN : (clearly and cleverly explains his belief system, it's answers and benefits to the upper class for the next forty-five minutes and hoping they fall for it like the people). Thanks to human stupidity, an overwhelming majority of elites were won over except five scholars and the king who is biased towards his beliefs and angry at being humiliated by Mattan. These scholars had been atheists and non-worshippers but had pretended to worshippers so as not to upset the king. The rest of the royal family fell for the belief system. As usual, it was still the same "only the creator could have known this." fallacy. There was an uproar and panic in the royal court. KING : (hiding his anger and knowing that he has to play along) I accept the creator. In fact, it shall be a law that only the creator shall be worshipped from henceforth. THE PEOPLE : (joyous) long live the king! Long live the creator! MATTAN : my king, since you have agreed to believe in the creator and do his will, he approves your kingship and you shall treat the people better. You must also agree that a new constitution shall put in place and this constitution shall be based on the creators directives. I shall relay these directives later to you. You know that the people shall not lose the creators benefits. Agree or be purged, what says the king? KING : (gets more angry but decides to hide it and play along) of course, so shall it be. Long live the creator. THE PEOPLE : (joyous) long live the king! Long live the creator! Long live the king! Long live the creator! KING : (thinking to himself) I have indeed lost the people to this blasphemy and I cannot control them and keep my throne except I accept this blasphemy. I have to play along or lose my throne and die. Even my queens, children and elites have have fallen for this blasphemy. How dare Mattan humiliate me? Indeed, I now realise that power is given by the people. My saving grace are the scholars and I shall discuss with them later to see how I can salvage my people from this blasphemy. I have to find a way to deal with the three friends but it seems that's going to be hard because the soldiers are now for him. MATTAN : we have indeed succeeded today and it's a great victory for the creator. We shall be here on the next work free day to make the new constitution and hand over our land and throne to the creator. KING : no problem, as the creator leads I shall follow. MATTAN : very well then, we shall leave for now. (signals to the people to leave). THE PEOPLE : (leaving for their homes). long live the creator! Long live the king! Long live creator! Long live the king! A minute after the people had left the royal court, the five scholars approached the king. ATHEIST SCHOLAR 1 : my king, the kingdom is surely at a critical moment in it's history. Grant us a meeting with you. (bows). KING : I was about to say the same thing. Indeed we need a meeting. I will call you when I am ready. I have to take a rest. (signals for all the to leave the royal court). * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The three friends were walking home through a different route after visiting the king. ZADOK : it was like a dream when I saw the king helpless right before us. If not for Mattan, I would have unleashed my wrath on that corrupt and condescending fool. Our authority is confirmed. ACHIM : I was glad when we stabbed and killed the general. He was so full of himself. I can't wait for our next meeting with the king. It's only a matter of time before we start earning our ten percent. MATTAN : of course, that shall be in the new constitution. The people wouldn't mind when they start reaping steadily. We have to not get over excited for there is more to do. I observed that the king and some scholars were not buying into our bullshit but I don't care about the scholars, the king's allegiance is very important and advantageous. There is indeed more to be done. |
1) great wealth 2) sound health and "complete" body. |
HellVictorinho:Okay. ![]() |
HellVictorinho:I don't think I ignored anything, show me where I ignored something. I was only asking you try to express your idea clearly. You write-up had unnecessary word salads. I know anyone can use word salads, all I am saying is that if you use them very unnecessarily, bright minds won't take you seriously and you would come across like a fraud or proponent of bullshit. @ red No it can't and doesn't. Can you give an instance? I challenge you to. @bold I never said you were. I was simply asking why "7D"? How did you come about "7D"? Why not "8D" or "9D"? That's my question. |
HellVictorinho:Bacterium is known to exist not because it is a word that affects us physically but because it can be seen through a microscope and it has been studied. Had it been it cannot be seen, bacteria infections would have described by modern medicine as ailments with an identifiable cause. Scientists didn't believe in bacteria until they saw it using a microscope and the same applies for spiritual claims -- seeing is believing. It is described as extremely tiny to human sight which is understandable.I wouldn't use the word "understandable." It is described as "tiny" to the unaided human eyes because it is so indeed except with the aid of a microscope. But all the conditions you have given for your conviction will never be met by the proponents of the reality of the other-Normals.word salads with pepper stew . Try to be simple and lucid in explaining your ideas. Only frauds and proponents of ridiculous garbages use meaningless word salads. They do this to confuse people they are trying to win over and confuse intellectuals who are trying to debunk and call them out. Please, be clearer on what you mean. You must contend with at least one of these side effects including :pure insanity,doubled life(involving a death-induced connection),and a myriad of encounters with unexpected phenomena that can only take you back to what you screwed to become what you understand as Normal again.....more word salads. If you can't express simple things in simple words using their proper definition, no bright mind should take you seriously. I don't believe in "spirits/gods/crazy designers/first cause to no cause/beginning without beginning/divine consciousness/confused 'Alls'"Skepticism should be cherished and never be abandoned. It is that skepticism that science expanded to benefit you and me. And we have to stop using words like "more powerful/more intelligent" to describe supposed 7D/Spirit Realm Beings.Why do you call them 7D? Who told you they were 7D? We are just talking about supposedly spiritual beings from the perspective of religious claims. Isn't god more powerful than Satan and the angels on both sides? Based on what we know about the pointless and illogical impression given by what we call 'Nature', "Super-Nature" can only provide us with the greatest magnitude of obscure absurdities.What do you mean by "Super-Nature"? If it means the supernatural then I would agree with you here. Why put "nature" in quote? Lastly,what can only be described as nonsense must be described as nonsense so Religion (a Crime against Humanity) as well as certain traditions/customs/movements/systems, etc must be regarded by only those who are overly attached to them as anything else other than practical nonsense!!!!!This is clearly illogical despite the word salads. Why don't you be clear and simple on what you mean? ![]() |
ME : aren't talking donkey, the creation story and talking snake irrational? CHRISTIAN : it depends on what you mean by "irrational"? ME :
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CHRISTIAN : god has already provided healing and miracles for his children. ME : how come they are still dying from cancer and HIV? CHRISTIAN : god has provided but it's left for them to receive it by faith. ME :
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Innocent until proven guilty. No matter the emotions and theatrical display, never trust women when it comes to sexual abuse/assault if there is no shred of evidence to back up their claims. If you see the manner and number of false rape allegations and the damages it has wrecked on many men, you will fear women. So if there is no evidence, discard their claims like it never happened. Thanks to false rape accusers, no one takes the mere complaint of real victims seriously. |
drake2000x:Lol. I too was wondering. If the guy's parents were as broke as her parents and couldn't afford the bills, what shall he become? If you have a lot of money and you are a lady's fool then you are a nice person. That's the only way. |
Originakalokalo:foolishness shrouded in childish emotional display. |
Legend has it that Shelumiel is still on the run. ![]() |
Niflheim:Don't mind them. They claim their god is omnipotent yet he needs ten percent of their salary. Not even a horse would flop like that. |
MhizAngel99:I agree. Seun, please come and archive this thread. |
XxSabrinaxX:Blood of Christ!
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Vic2Ree:Sabrina is one of a kind, I will start following her thread for fun. For too long we atheists have been gentlemen and gentlewomen presenting our sound arguments only to be subjected to resounding stvpidity and insults from the christards. Nice to see someone who can repay them in kind when it comes to insult and it seems the christards are angry when insulted but they wouldn't mind insulting atheists. |
Vic2Ree:It seems the heavy burden of proof has crushed Shelumiel. ![]() |
Heartbender:How did you know this? Who told you this? |
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You are funny. No one was talking about when or whether you asked her for a debate instead we are discussing who insulted first. You insulted first. Christians and logic are two strangers that hate them each other.
. I don't think he slept well yesterday night.