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 Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 1:33am On Jan 17, 2019 |
The thread has been wonderful. Good night everyone. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 1:30am On Jan 17, 2019 |
HellVictorinho:His topics show that he is a christian(or at least spiritual. Lol) but the stupidity is so great that one would think he is trolling at all times. In this topic, titled YOU BECAME AN ATHEIST DUE TO LIMITED KNOWLEDGE, he has a message for atheists. Enjoy  https://www.nairaland.com/4932666/atheist-due-limited-knowledge 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 1:23am On Jan 17, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel: 4 Likes 1 Share
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 1:14am On Jan 17, 2019 |
If you exhibit your stvpidity and people are confused as to whether you actually being stvpid or trolling, then your stvpidity is great indeed. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 1:05am On Jan 17, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel:Eyah but It's not too late. Maybe if you can surprise us with moments of rationality, you may have a chance.  No girl wants males with m0r0nic genes. HellVictorinho seems to have intelligent genes. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 1:01am On Jan 17, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: 3 Likes
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 12:52am On Jan 17, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:True. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 12:48am On Jan 17, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel:@red That's your claim. How do you know this? Can you provide sound evidence? If you can't, don't expect anyone to embrace your claim. @blue If I can't find proof, I can't accept such claims. That's rational. Only retarded dogfaces blindly accept claims that have no evidence to back them up. @boldblack It seems you have taken it upon yourself to be r.etarded to the best of your abilities. Didn't you read where I said those that make a claim have the duty to prove and defend their claim? It's not my duty to disprove or prove your claim. If you have no sound evidence, don't expect people to accept your claims. @green Atheists don't know. Not knowing doesn't mean your god and bible are legitimate. No atheist ever claimed to have all the answers. You christians are the ones with claims, you have proofs and evidences to present. Asking us questions we don't know doesn't prove your point in anyway. Not knowing something is not a crime. You don't know advanced calculus and I don't think you see that a crime, do you? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 12:17am On Jan 17, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX and HellVictorinho, here is a topic of ElidaxZiel titled A STRONG EVIDENCE THAT GOD EXISTS . Truly, he has no answers. Strong evidence indeed https://www.nairaland.com/4958986/strong-evidence-god-exist 5 Likes 2 Shares
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 12:09am On Jan 17, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Lol. I know he won't answer. He has nothing to say hence it is convenient for him to shift the task to atheists. How hypocritical to lambast atheists as delusional for not having answers while he doesn't have his own answers. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 12:05am On Jan 17, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel, I am waiting for answers. You laughed at atheists for not having answers, will you not have answers too? 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 12:02am On Jan 17, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Don't mind him. Having to say we don't know the answers to certain questions is, for some reason, a crime to them. They irrationally think that atheist not knowing how the universe came to be validates their precious holy book. Since he seems to have the answers, I have asked him questions and I await his answers. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 11:57pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel:Well, you have been asking the questions and irrationally placing the burden of proof on atheists. Now, let me turn the tables and ask the questions. Where did human cells come from? Provide your answer backed by sound evidence. I dare you. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 11:52pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel:Are you trying to say that organic molecules can't be synthesised from inorganic molecules? @bold Why don't you tell me? You've been claiming that we don't have answers (as if that's a bad thing) but you have failed to provide yours. It seems you are comfortable putting the burden of proof and questions to Sabrina, let me do the reverse and ask you to answer these questions and provide evidence. Answer the question in bold. I dare you. 4 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 10:24pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
JMAN05: 4 Likes
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 10:15pm On Jan 16, 2019*. Modified: 10:57pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
alfaman3:Lol. Wait let me carve the statue of batman, I am coming. 1 Like |
| Sports › Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Rape Case: Lawyer To Interview Ex-girlfriend Jasmine Lennard by Martinez19(m): 9:08pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
PaChukwudi44:It's our today's world. Feelings and emotional theatrics speak louder than evidence. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 8:59pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
alfaman3:Until I see evidence for the existence of amadioha, I will have no reason to acknowledge his existence. Your experience is your own evidence not mine. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Fireworks by Martinez19(m): 8:42pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
An invincible virus of the human psyche. 1 Like |
| Jobs/Vacancies › Re: How A Youth Corper’s ‘richness’ Hindered Her From Getting Employed #thread by Martinez19(m): 8:36pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
Just say you did not want to employ her. The excuse is too irrational. 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 8:20pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
continued. I hope this time around, christians who have read this thread would be informed and up their game. We atheists don't have time for the nonsense of "tons of historical evidences and a lot of reputable scholars agree that Jesus existed." If you can't bring something extraordinary, forget it. I also hope that it's now clear that the burden of proof lies on you christians and if you can't prove your claim, don't expect anyone to believe you. To read more on the burden of proof, check out a thread, created days ago, by XxSabrinaxX https://www.nairaland.com/4952457/christianity-burden-proof If you still don't understand where the burden of proof lies, either you are an id1ot or you are willfully dishonest . I also hope that no one would say atheism is a belief system. Finally, for those christians that would dishonestly say that there is no way I can be sure my sources and historical evidences of dead scientists are correct, I would say that, in the same way, you can also not be sure that your bible and "tons of historical evidences" are correct . Even if I blindly believe in the existence of Sir Isaac Newton just as you blindly believe in your god, it does not make you god exist; it doesn't make the bible legitimate and it does not change the fact you still have something to prove. I understand the need for safety in numbers. Question is where is your sound evidence? ******* THE END ******** |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Ten Questions I Have For Christians by Martinez19(m): 6:49pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
godwinstringed1:Any human that is brain dead is a loser in life. 3 Likes
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| Christianity Etc › Re: I Challenge Pastordavidawuj To Answer My Questions On His Claims by Martinez19(m): 6:43pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 5:30pm On Jan 16, 2019*. Modified: 6:34pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
continued. As I said, rather than letting god prove himself or back their claims with extraordinary evidences, they dish out the "there are tons of historical evidences and a lot of reputable scholars agree that Jesus existed" nonsense. Truth is that outside the bible, there are no sound evidences, logical or material, for the existence of Yahweh and Jesus. There are no evidences that Adam and Eve, Moses, Noah's ark, David and Abraham existed. If Jesus existed and did the miracles he did, how come contemporaries did not put it down into writing? I dare anyone to come up with a sound history evidence of Jesus' time on earth. If we assume that a man called Jesus existed, how can we prove that he was divine and did the things he did? Remember that the mere existence of a mortal does not indicate that he/she is divine or performed miracles so if your so called "tons of historical evidences" said Jesus exist and that's enough for you to then believe that he is divine and performed miracles then you must also believe that Muhammad is a divine prophet and he split the moon in two. Unlike Jesus, Muhammad existed. Historical evidences show that Muhammad existed but historical evidences cannot prove that a man performed miracles or was divine. So if mere "tons of historical evidences" convince you that Jesus is divine and performed miracles, why don't you also believe that Muhammad is a divine prophet and he split the moon in two? After all, there are actual historical evidences that Muhammad existed. What are these tons of historical evidences christians keep talking about? Who are these reputable scholars? Turns out that when you press them for answers they have nothing more than the so called writtings of Eusebius and Josephus. It also turns out that they can't even mention the names of these reputable scholars and historians and the "reputable scholars" are vague and made up. Fact is most scholars believe that Jesus did not exist and the writings of Eusebius have been shown to be complete forgery. The Testimonium Flavianum by Josephus which many christians refer to as historical proof were shown to be bastardised works of Josephus. A christian scholar bastardised Josephus' work to promote and validate christianity. Outside Eusebius and Josephus, what other historical evidences do christians have? Who are these "reputable scholars" that agree on Jesus' existence?Christianity was, and still is, a lucrative hot cake when it comes to fooling and exploiting people so one shouldn't be surprised when they forge their "historical evidence." In the past, the Roman Catholic Church had the so called wooden cross, robe and nails used for Jesus but they soon abandoned that. 1) Eusebius forgery http://www.christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/fathereusebiustheforger.html 2) Josephus http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html There are other sources but I can't post them, I guess it's best you do your research. 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 3:21pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
I am not surprised that stvpidity is roaming about in this thread. CHRISTIAN LOGIC 101: 1) you have no answer, therefore it's Yahweh. 2) I have no answer, therefore it's Yahweh. 7 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 3:19pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel:how christ-like of you. Good day. 5 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 3:03pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
ElidaxZiel:No time for nonsense questions, state your belief and provide evidence sharp sharp or gerraut. 
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 3:00pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 2:53pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
Before I continue on my topic, let's distract ourselves with some entertainment. In the comment section of Dr. Ray Hagins' and Dr. Richard Carrier's videos, christians couldn't handle the fact that Jesus in the bible never existed and they went bananas  . Here are few of them for the sake of those with little data. 1 Like
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 2:27pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
Hahn, CAPSLOCKED, HopefulLandlord, HardMirror, Tozara aka Tollzara, Anas09, Paxonel, Originalkalokalo, 1Sharon aka Sharon6, budaatum, vaxx, johnydon22, dalaman, ranchhoddas, HellVictorinho, MrPRevailer, XxSabrinaxX, MhizAngel99, bloodofthelamb, MrPresident1, 0temSapien, MrBrownJay1, OpenYourEyes1, alfaman3, jesusjnr, lightblazingnow, Seun, Niflheim etc. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Comparison Of Proof Of God, Jesus, Mohammed And Great Mortal Men by Martinez19(op): 2:25pm On Jan 16, 2019*. Modified: 2:45pm On Jan 16, 2019 |
continued. Carl Sagan, a dead American astronomer, said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences." That is a simple truth. The proof I would expect for the existence of great mortal men like Sir Isaac Newton, Socrates, Einstein, Aristotle etc. is not as extraordinary as the proof I would like expect for an omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient immortal god. The great mortal men made no claim to be gods and they are dead so they cannot answer for themselves hence the most reasonable way of verifying their existence is to go through historical records. Mind you their existence and identities are not as important as their ideas and works unlike the case for Yahweh and Jesus. If it turned out that Sir Isaac Newton never existed, it wouldn't affect the legitimacy of calculus, gravity and the Philosophiae Naturalis Principa Mathematica (a book written by Newton). If it turns out that Einstein never existed, it doesn't make general relativity untrue but if Jesus and Yahweh never existed then christianity cannot be true. This points to the great importance on evidence when it comes to existence of Yahweh and Jesus and the analysis and acceptance of biblical claims. Did Sir Isaac Newton, Socrates, Albert Einstein and Aristotle exist? Yes they did because their written academic works, their letters, portraits and pictures (in some cases) and citations by other contemporaries are available and a critical analysis of these materials make their existence very plausible. Though we cannot see them because they are dead but we know they existed because of historical evidences. How do I know I had a great grandfather? Well, I don't expect to see my great grandfather to know I had one (besides, he is dead) instead my existence is enough proof that I had a great grandfather because the spermatozoa that gave rise to me came from someone and that someone came from a spermatozoa. You can take it like this to get back in time to any generation you want. As to his identity, it's not important to me so I don't know who he was or what he did for a living. When asked for evidences that the Jesus of the bible existed, christians start saying "well, there are tons of historical evidences and reputable scholars agree that Jesus Christ existed ." Seriously? Is that all you've got to offer? A being that's immortal is still alive, let him speak for himself. A being that's omnipotent can do all things, let him reveal himself to me. A being that's omniscient knows it all, he knows what he will do to convince me of his existence. He is omnipresent, he is everywhere I go so he can always locate me. Despite all this, all you've got is "tons of historical evidences and all scholars agree," isn't it? No extraordinary evidence for such extraordinary claim. Given the attributes of Yahweh and Jesus, asking for a clear cut miracle or signs and wonders in order to believe is not so much to ask at all and it wouldn't stop him from being god if he did that. So if you or your god isn't doing something spectacular to prove his existence then hush and don't waste my time with your "tons of historical evidences and reputable scholars agree" nonsense . Despite all what I wrote in blue, why am I still an atheist? Before I address the so called "tons of historical evidences and most reputable scholars agree," here are threads and videos to help you concerning the issue of Jesus Christ's existence. 1) A fantastic thread by HopefulLandlord https://www.nairaland.com/3206708/reasons-scholars-know-jesus-christ 2) A fantastic video by Dr. Richard Carrier. If you have data and time for a good laugh, be sure to go through the comments on this video because christians weren't having any of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYRoYl7i6U 3) A fantastic video by Dr. Ray Hagins (though I don't agree with many of his views). Here he goes deep on the origin and invention of Jesus Christ. If you have data and time for a good laugh, be sure to go through the comments on this video because christians weren't having any of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqFtpV4i4zs 4) Christopher Hitchens on the Jesus Myth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMo5R5pLPBE 4 Likes 3 Shares |
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