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God2man:
I was in Jos last year for more than three weeks, although i travelled to nassarawa within those period, i usually returned back to Jos by weekend. I am talking about aprii to may last year 2O1O it was for an official assingnment. All i can say about these clashes in Jos is that, religious killing was not rampant during those period, my conclusion is that the press seem to worsen the situation by sensational headline, up till now,our people are still there, yoruba,ibo. Morever, christians and muslims must accept the fact that, one cannot go for the other, that is you cannot destroy one for the other to stay, it is not possible, we must imbibe the spirit of tolerance. Great effort had been taking during the period of 14 to 19 century to eliminate christian, there is a name for them MARTYR, christians were crucified, beheaded,slain with sword, thrown to lion den, tied to fire stick and burned alive. Now, christianity is still waxing stronger. Could you please inform those who are trying to eliminate christianity that it is not a new thing, what they are doing is to expand the Gospel of our Lord Jesus christ, Nobody can stop God. The more the persecution, the more spreading of the gospel.

Mention the word "crusade" to anyone and you'll engender visions of either wild-eyed religious fanatics charging off to kill the infidels, or esteemed holy warriors taking up the burden of a religious mission far greater than themselves. There's no single judgment that can be made about the Crusades or even crusading generally, but it is a subject which merits closer attention than it usually receives.

What is crusading, exactly? The term "Crusade" can be used generally to refer to any of the military operations launched during the middle ages by the Catholic Church and Catholic political leaders against non-Catholic powers or heretical movements. Most crusades, however, were directed at Muslim states in the Middle East, with the first starting in 1096 and the last in 1270. The term itself is derived from the Latin cruciata, which means "cross-marked," i.e. cruce signati, those who wear the insignia of scarlet crosses.

Today the term "crusade" has generally lost its military implications (in the West, at least) and has acquired more metaphorical meanings. Within religion the label "crusade" may be applied to any organized drive to convert people to a particular brand of Christianity or just to stoke the fires of devotion and faith. Outside of religion the label is applied to reform movements or zealous undertakings designed to make significant changes in structures of power, authority, or social relationships.

Understanding the Crusades requires understanding that, contrary to traditional stereotypes, they weren't simply an aggressive military campaign against Muslim lands, nor were they merely a defensive military campaign against Muslims on the Iberian peninsula and in the Mediterranean. The Crusades, all of them, were in the first place an attempt to impose orthodox Christianity via military force across a wide swath of territory, and second, the product of Christian contact with a militarily powerful, culturally self-confident, and economically expansionistic religious civilization.

The Crusades, but especially the "true" Crusades launched against Islam in the Middle East, are arguably the most important aspect of the Middle Ages. It was here that medieval warfare, art, politics, trade, religion, and ideals about chivalry all came together. Europe entered the crusading age as one type of society but left it transformed in vital ways which were not always immediately obvious, but which nevertheless contained the seeds of change which continue to impact European and world affairs today.

Furthermore, the Crusades also fundamentally altered the relationship between Christianity and Islam. Although they constituted a decisive military "win" for Islam, the image of barbaric Christian Crusaders continues to haunt Arab Muslim perspectives of Europe and Christianity, especially when combined with the more recent history of European colonialism in the Middle East. It is curious that an ostensibly Islamic military and political triumph could be transformed into a touchstone of Islamic defeat and despair.There is some arbitrariness to any categorization or division of the Crusades — over 200 years of almost continual fighting on multiple fronts. Where does one Crusade end and the next begin? Despite such problems, there is a traditional system that allows for a fair overview.

First Crusade: Launched by Pope Urban II at the Council of Clermont in 1095, it was the most successful. Urban gave a dramatic speech urging Christians to swarm to Jerusalem and make it safe for Christian pilgrims by taking it away from Muslims. The armies of the First Crusade left in 1096 and captured Jerusalem in 1099. Crusaders carved out small kingdoms for themselves which endured for some time, though not long enough to have a real impact on local culture. Timeline

Second Crusade: Launched in response to the Muslim capture of Edessa in 1144, it was accepted by European leaders primarily due to the tireless effort of St. Bernard of Clairvaux who travelled across France, Germany, and Italy to exhort people to take up the cross and reassert Christian domination in the Holy Land. The kings of France and Germany answered the call but the losses to their armies were devastating and they were easily defeated. Timeline

Third Crusade: Launched in 1189, it was called because of the Muslim recapture of Jerusalem in 1187 and the defeat of Palestinian knights at Hittin. It was unsuccessful. Frederick I Barbarossa of Germany drowned before he even reached the Holy Land and Philip II Augustus of France returned home after a short time. Only Richard the Lionheart of England stayed long. He helped capture Acre and some smaller ports, only leaving after he concluded a peace treaty with Saladin. Timeline

Fourth Crusade: Launched in 1202, it was in part instigated by Venetian leaders who saw it as a means to increase their power and influence. Crusaders who arrived in Venice expecting to be taken to Egypt were instead diverted towards their allies in Constantinople. The great city was mercilessly sacked in 1204 (during Easter week, yet), leading to greater enmity between Eastern and Western Christians. Timeline

Fifth Crusade: Called in 1217, only Leopold VI of Austria and Andrew II of Hungary participated. They captured the city of Damietta, but after their devastating loss at the Battle of Al-Mansura they were forced to return it. Ironically, before their defeat they were offered control of Jerusalem and other Christian sites in Palestine in exchange for the return of Damietta, but Cardinal Pelagius refused and turned a potential victory into a stunning defeat. Timeline

Sixth Crusade: Launched in 1228, it achieved some small measure of success — though not by military might. It was led by Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II of Hohenstaufen, King of Jerusalem through his marriage to Yolanda, daughter of John of Brienne. Frederick had promised to participate in the Fifth Crusade but failed to do so, thus he was under a great deal of pressure to do something substantive this time. This Crusade ended with a peace treaty granting Christians control of several important holy sites, including Jerusalem. Timeline

Seventh and Eighth Crusades: Led by King Louis IX of France, they were complete failures. In the Seventh Crusade Louis sailed to Egypt in 1248 and recaptured Damietta, but after he and his army were routed he had to return it as well as a massive ransom just to get free. In 1270 he set off on the Eighth Crusade, landing in North Africa to convert the sultan of Tunis to Christianity but died before he got far. Timeline

The Ninth Crusade: Led by King Edward I of England in 1271 who tried to join Louis in Tunis, it would fail. Edward arrived after Louis had died and moved against the Mamluk sultan Baibers. He didn't achieve much, though, and returned home to England after he learned that his father Henry III had died. Timeline

Reconquista: Launched against the Muslims who had taken control of the Iberian peninsula, it began in 722 with the Battle of Covadonga when the Visigoth noble Pelayo defeated a Muslim Army at Alcama and didn't end until 1492 when Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile conquered Granada, last Muslim stronghold.

Baltic Crusade: Launched in the north by Berthold, Bishop of Buxtehude (Uexküll), against local pagans. Fighting lasted until 1410 when at the Battle of Tannenberg forces from Poland and Lithuania defeated the Teutonic Knights. Over the course of the conflicts, though, the pagan population was gradually converted to Christianity. Timeline

Cathar Crusade: Launched against the Cathars (Albigenses) in southern France by Pope lnnocent III, it was the only major Crusade against other Christians. Montsegur, the largest Cathar stronghold, fell in 1244 after a nine month siege and the last Cathar stronghold — an isolated fort at Quéribus — was captured in 1255. Why were the Crusades launched? Were the Crusades primarily religious, political, economic, or a combination? There is a wide variety of opinion on this matter. Some argue that they were a necessary response by Christendom to the oppression of pilgrims in Muslim-controlled Jerusalem. Others claim that it was political imperialism masked by religious piety. Still others argue that it was a social release for a society that was becoming overburdened by landless nobles.

Christians commonly try to defend the Crusades as political or at least as politics being masked by religion, but in reality sincere religious devotion — both Muslim and Christian — played a primary role on both sides. It's little wonder that the Crusades are so often cited as a reason to regard religion as a cause for violence in human history. The most immediate cause for the Crusades is also the most obvious: Muslim incursions into previously Christian lands. On multiple fronts, Muslims were invading Christian lands to convert the inhabitants and assume control in the name of Islam.

A "Crusade" had been underway on the Iberian peninsula since 711 when Muslim invaders conquered most of the region. Better known as the Reconquista, it lasted until the tiny kingdom of Grenada was reconquered in 1492. In the East, Muslim attacks on land controlled by the Byzantine Empire had been going on for a long time. After the battle of Manzikert in 1071, much of Asia Minor fell to the Seljuk Turks, and it was unlikely that this last outpost of the Roman Empire would be able to survive further concentrated assaults. It wasn't long before the Byzantine Christians asked for help from Christians in Europe, and it's no surprise that their plea was answered.

A military expedition against the Turks held out a lot of promise, not least of which was the possible reunification of the Eastern and Western churches, should the West prove capable of defeating the Muslim menace which had for so long plagued the East. Thus the Christian interest in the Crusades was not only to end the Muslim threat, but also to end the Christian schism. Aside from that, however, was the fact that if Constantinople fell then all of Europe would be open to invasion, a prospect that weighed heavily on the minds of European Christians.

Another cause for the Crusades was the increase in problems experienced by Christian pilgrims in the region. Pilgrimages were very important to European Christians for religious, social, and political reasons. Anyone who successfully made the long and arduous journey to Jerusalem not only demonstrated their religious devotion, but also became beneficiaries of significant religious benefits. A pilgrimage wiped clean one's plate of sins (sometimes it was a requirement, the sins were so egregious) and in some cases served to minimize future sins as well. Without these religious pilgrimages, Christians would have had a harder time justifying claims to ownership and authority over the region.

The religious enthusiasm of the people who went off on the Crusades can't be ignored. Although there were a number of distinct campaigns launched, a general "crusading spirit" swept across much of Europe for a long time. Some Crusaders claimed to experience visions of God ordering them to the Holy Land. These usually ended in failure because the visionary was typically a person without any political or military experience. Joining a Crusade was not simply a matter of participating in military conquest: it was a form of religious devotion, particularly among those seeking forgiveness for their sins. Humble pilgrimages had been replaced by armed pilgrimages as church authorities used the Crusades as part of the penance people had to do to repay sins.

Not all of the causes were quite so religious, though. We know that the Italian merchant states, already powerful and influential, wished to expand their trade in the Mediterranean. This was being blocked by Muslim control of many strategic seaports, so if Muslim domination of the eastern Mediterranean could be ended or at least significantly weakened, then cities like Venice, Genoa, and Pisa had a chance to enrich themselves further. Of course, richer Italian states also meant a richer Vatican.

In the end, the violence, death, destruction, and continuing bad blood that last through to the present day would not have occurred without religion. It doesn't matter so much who "started it," Christians or Muslims. What matters is that Christians and Muslims eagerly participated in mass murder and destruction, mostly for the sake of religious beliefs, religious conquest, and religious supremacism. The Crusades exemplify the way in which religious devotion can become a violent act in a grand, cosmic drama of good vs. evil — an attitude which persists through today in the form of religious extremists and terrorists.
The Crusades were an incredibly violent undertaking, even by medieval standards. The Crusades have often been remembered in a romantic fashion, but perhaps nothing has deserved it less. Hardly a noble quest in foreign lands, the Crusades represented the worst in religion generally and in Christianity specifically.

Two systems which emerged in the church deserve special mention has having contributed greatly: penance and indulgences. Penance was a type of worldly punishment, and a common form was a pilgrimage to the Holy Lands. Pilgrims resented the fact that sites holy to Christianity were not controlled by Christians, and they were easily whipped into a state of agitation and hatred towards Muslims.

Later on, crusading itself was regarded as a holy pilgrimage — thus, people paid penance for their sins by going off and slaughtering adherents of another religion. Indulgences, or waivers of temporal punishment, were granted by the church to anyone who contributed monetarily to the bloody campaigns.

Early on, crusades were more likely to be unorganized mass movements of "the people" than organized movements of traditional armies. More than that, the leaders seemed be chosen based on just how incredible their claims were. Tens of thousands of peasants followed Peter the Hermit who displayed a letter he claimed was written by God and delivered to him personally by Jesus. This letter was supposed to be his credentials as a Christian leader, and perhaps he was indeed qualified — in more ways than one.

Not to be outdone, throngs of crusaders in the Rhine valley followed a goose believed to be enchanted by God to be their guide. I'm not sure that they got very far, although they did manage to join other armies following Emich of Leisingen who asserted that a cross miraculously appeared on his chest, certifying him for leadership. Showing a level of rationality consistent with their choice of leaders, Emich's followers decided that before they traveled across Europe to kill God's enemies, it would be a good idea to eliminate the infidels in their midst. Thus suitably motivated, they proceeded to massacre the Jews in German cities like Mainz and Worms. Thousands of defenseless men, women and children were chopped, burned or otherwise slaughtered.

This sort of action was not an isolated event — indeed, it was repeated throughout Europe by all sorts of crusading hordes. Lucky Jews were given a last-minute chance to convert to Christianity in accord with Augustine's doctrines. Even other Christians were not safe from the Christian crusaders. As they roamed the countryside, they spared no effort in pillaging towns and farms for food. When Peter the Hermit's army entered Yugoslavia, 4,000 Christian residents of the city of Zemun were massacred before they moved on to burn Belgrade.

Eventually the mass killings by amateur crusaders were taken over by professional soldiers — not so that fewer innocents would be killed, but so that they would be killed in a more orderly fashion. This time, ordained bishops followed along to bless the atrocities and make sure that they had official church approval. Leaders like Peter the Hermit and the Rhine Goose were rejected by the church not for their actions, but for their reluctance to follow church procedures.

Taking the heads of slain enemies and impaling them upon pikes appears to have been a favorite pastime among crusaders. Chronicles record a story of a crusader-bishop who referred to the impaled heads of slain Muslims as a joyful spectacle for the people of God. When Muslim cities were captured by Christian crusaders, it was standard operating procedure for all inhabitants, no matter what their age, to be summarily killed. It is not an exaggeration to say that the streets ran red with blood as Christians reveled in church-sanctioned horrors. Jews who took refuge in their synagogues would be burned alive, not unlike the treatment they received in Europe.

In his reports about the conquest of Jerusalem, Chronicler Raymond of Aguilers wrote that "It was a just and marvelous judgment of God, that this place [the temple of Solomon] should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers." St. Bernard announced before the Second Crusade that "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."

Sometimes, atrocities were excused as actually being merciful. When a crusader army broke out of Antioch and sent the besieging army into flight, the Christians found that the abandoned Muslim camp was filled with the wives of the enemy soldiers. Chronicler Fulcher of Chartres happily recorded for posterity that ", the Franks did nothing evil to them [the women] except pierce their bellies with their lances."

deb:
Only fake professing christian who happens not to practise islam kills. No true christian kills, but u are a fake muslim if u don't kill. The truth is that all these yoruba muslims are fake and the true muslims are the Osama bin ladens of this world. Go and read the book "Who is this Allah?" u will understand better that a muslim that does not kill is fake and christians and muslims don't serve the same God. Its all in their quoran.

Old Testament

The principle of "an eye for an eye" is often referred to using the Latin phrase lex talionis, the law of talion. The meaning of the principle Eye for an Eye is that a person who has injured another person returns the offending action to the originator in compensation. The exact Latin (lex talionis) to English translation of this phrase is actually "The law of retaliation." At the root of this principle is that one of the purposes of the law is to provide equitable retribution for an offended party.

Dr Ian Guthridge cited many instances of genocide in the Old Testament:[32]:319-320
“ the Bible also contains the horrific account of what can only be described as a "biblical holocaust". For, in order to keep the chosen people apart from and unaffected by the alien beliefs and practices of indigenous or neighbouring peoples, when God commanded his chosen people to conquer the Promised Land, he placed city after city 'under the ban" -which meant that every man, woman and child was to be slaughtered at the point of the sword. ”

The extent of extermination is described in the scriptural passage Deut 20:16-18 which orders the Israelites to "not leave alive anything that breathes… completely destroy them …".[33] thus leading many scholars to characterize the exterminations as genocide. Niels Peter Lemche asserts that European colonialism in the 19th century was ideologically based on the Old Testament narratives of conquest and extermination.[44] Arthur Grenke claims that the view or war expressed in Deuteronomy contributed to the destruction of Native Americans and to the destruction of European Jewry.

From the above passage in the bible we can deduce that it encourages killing.I want to refute your claim that,only muslims kill based on religion.

strangest:
The two groups

1. Yusufiyya Islamic Movement (YIM)
2. Buhari Ayotalla Movement (BAM)

1.Movement of ebele to nonsense democracy(MEND) in tanderm with the Niger-delta destructive corporation (NDDC) through the ministry of Niger-delta(nigerian-destruction) have promised to pay boko-haram 65,000 naira monthly from  bunkerd oil.

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ChinenyeN:
Nigeria should just hurry up and divide.

So you'l have a free hand in subjugating the minority tribes.The thing is no matter which way nigeria divides there will be intra fighting within the break away regions between local area tribes(LAT).just as evidenced from the bitterness exhibited btw individuals of different tribes on this forum.

If ogoni land,oloibiri,and other oil spill devasted part's of the niger-delta could be turned into another abuja
If only no other religion,tribe or region would not want to subjugate another
If only no pastor or imam will venture into politics
If only we don't view each other from the prism of religion or ethnicity
If only we harbour good will to each other
If only our leader's were selfless
If only we were 'thy brother's keeper'
If only majority tribes hausa/fulani,yoruba and igbo live in peace and harmony with all minority tribes
If only there was justice and fairness in our land .
The europeans fought the 100year war's,world war 1 and 2 but they saw it futile and ended up with the european union
Whether we like it or not we need each other.
Majority of the 9/11 attacker's were saudi arabian's yet america buy's saudi oil,america sold weapons to iran in the contra affair,the british navy once saved a distressed russian rescue mini-sub.
I hope and pray we prosper.

The federal and state governments should slash the salaries and allowances of their various legislature and see if we don't just have more than enough to not just pay the minimum wage but also provide the basic infrastructure of good roads,free education,affordable healthcare and uninterrupted power supply.

Ride on tinubu.Ngerian's await the announcement of presidential ambition  with none other but sanusi lamido sanusi as your running mate.

New tactic by bokoharam to instill fear in southern-christian nigeria.

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Be real. There's a war going on in a northern and you don't want people to be concerned. Don't play ostrich here. Nigerians are worried because of exactly this kind of attitude, the failure of fellow Nigerians to condemn such actions in its entirety. If profiling is to be avoided why is there no opposition whatsoever in the north against this group. No protests, nothing. Just apologies and muted responses while people are killed daily. You think those policemen, youth corpers and civilians slaughtered have no right to life. People have died and all you are concerned is about profiling. After 911 what happened to muslims in the US - profiling. When a man is killed in a community and the murderer is let out of jail what do you expect - a glorious welcome. How many whites are operating in the Niger Delta today. You think they have no stories. For goodness sake Force headquarters was assaulted with explosives, a truck load is found a few weeks later enroute Abuja loaded with explosives and you expect a red carpet welcome.

Men and women of the armed forces and security outfits are under great stress. Yes some may be naive and incompetent so you cannot fault their over zealousness. If I was trading in explosives today should anyone tell me to inform security agencies in advance before driving up to the gates of Abuja. I bet if it was Afghanistan and some explosive detection device tracked that truck, strike aircraft will never let it get near the city gates.

I am not positing for government for they have done more harm than good and fertilized the ground on which the weeds of militancy have grown but you cannot fault the tension in the populace. They should not be victims of this war. The press is merely capitalizing on their trauma.

With all due respects you are still confusing the mayhem going on in maiduguri were as i stated earlier on another topic that 90 percent of the attacks of boko haram are in maiduguri the borno state capital not and i repeat not the whole of northern nigeria,the point here is stop lumping the entire north with borno.
Upon presenting your green passport in any foreign country the first experience most nigerians face is that of profiling,you are seen as a potential drug peddler,419er,or yahoo yahoo which all nigerian's complain off bitterly then why should we come back home and do the same.
Apologies but your thought process must be distorted to insunuate that i take more offence at profiling than the killing's going on in borno.
You are also overlooking,ignorant or not current as to  does felled by boko haram,amongst them are cordinary citizen's who  report their activities to the authorities,islamic clerics who critisize thier use of religion to commit violence  and just because people  don't protest and condemn them on the street doesn't make accomplices they are simply afraid for thier life's.
The trauma you say the press is capitalizing on is exactly what i suggest they should be held responsible.

When the story made the round that a truck load of dynamites was stopped by soldier's Nairalander's heaped abuses and rained curses on muslims and northerner's but events have proved otherwise.As the saying goes Falsehood shall always perish and truth will forever prevail.Yesterday it was a fulani woman caught trying to plant a  bomb at a filling station in lagos,the other day northerner's transporting bombs caught in abuja,soon they will start arresting petrol tanker driver's because petrol can be used in making petrol bomb,trailer's conveying fertilizer's too will be intercepted as they can be used in making explosives,when hydrogen peroxide is found in your first aid kit you'll be a suspected bomber too.It is high time our journalist's are held to account for their unproffessional conduct just as rupert murdoch is being grilled in the UK,Australia and the US and at the same time never believe all you read in a newspaper.

The writer of this topic is deceitful and disingenuous.The questions to be asked are

1.where did a potential suicide bomber ever beg/negotiate to place a bomb,
2.A suicide bomber with a baby  on her back
3.Police taking the woman to police station  along with the suspected bomb .
4.which government or security target is present at the filling station to warrant an attack there.
5.Where in the world have you heard police keeping a bomb in the police station.

A supposed educated journalist wrote this just to sell his paper the least we expect of someone posting the piece is he or she should weigh the  sense vis a vis the rubbish in it before posting.

chux76:
The Big Debate

Back ten centuries ago, the Pope decided that all the Muslims had to leave Jerusalem. Naturally there was a big uproar from the Muslim community. So the Pope made a deal. He would have a religious debate with a member of the Muslim community. If the Muslim won the debate, all the Muslims could stay. If the Pope won, all the Muslims would have to leave.

The Muslims realised that they had no choice. They looked around for a champion who could defend their faith, but no one wanted to volunteer. It was too risky. But they finally picked their representative, an old Mullah who unknowingly agreed without knowing what he was getting himself into. He agreed only on the condition that neither side be allowed to talk but communicate by miming. The pope agreed.

The day of the great debate came. The Mullah and the Pope sat opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed three fingers. The Mullah looked back at him and raised his middle finger,


The Pope waved his fingers in a circle around his head. Mullah Nasruddin pointed to the ground and stamped his foot.

The Pope pulled out a wafer and a glass of wine. Mullah pulled out an apple. The Pope stood up and said, 'I give up. This man is too good. The Muslims can stay.'

An hour later, the cardials were all around the Pope asking him what happened. The Pope said: "First I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity. He responded by holding up one finger to remind me that there was still one God common to both our religions. Then I waved my finger around me to show him that God was all around us. He responded by pointing to the ground and stamping on it, showing that God was also right here with us. I pulled out the wine and the wafer to show that God absolves us from our sins. He pulled out an apple, reminding me of the first sin. He had an answer for everything. What could I do?"

Meanwhile, the Muslim community had crowded around the Mullah in total astonishmen. "What happened?" they asked. "Well,"said the Mullah, "First he said to me that we Muslims had three days to leave Jerusalem. I told him up yours. Then he told me that this whole city would be cleared of Muslims. I said none of us leaving this land!"

"And then?" asked a woman.

"He took out his lunch and I took out mine," said the Mullah.

This is the most interesting,thought provoking piece i've read in naira land.were did you come across this story?

gonzaga:
This forum is sure made up of some peeps who are hell bent on trivializing every issue no matter how important. For the records, Major General Sarkin Yaki was the first commander of the JTF in the Niger Delta. Nobody raised the issue of ethnicity then. Now because a group of useless and Godforsaken elders have come togeather to make unsubstantiated allegations, we are all falling in line with the north as usual. Did anyone ever hear a group by that name before now? How are we sure these so called ''elders'' are not the patrons of the BOKO HARAM group? It is high time we face the truth and say it as it is. The north has been pampared for too long! We always try to differ to them in all aspects of our national life. The constitution says there will not be a state religion, we allowed them to have sharia, spend billions every year transporting people for hajj, cancel any program they feel offends their religion even if the rest of the country does not feel so, tolerate their killing spree each time they feel like, burn churches at will, allow them to marry little girls who end up VVF patients and we still use state funds to treat the patients, make educationally less develop state a parmanent feature in our educational system all becuae of the north! I can go on and on. But a time comes in the life of a nation, when enough is enough, and I think that time in now. Whatever anyone thinks, the bitterness of GEJ as president cannot be divorced from the activities of these vampires. Some people have vowed before now to make this country ungovernable if power does not return to the north or are we all suffering from collective amnesia that we have forgotten soo soon? Let everone sit and introspect, the north has been and will continue to be the problem of this country untill something drastic is done.

When niger-delta monarchs called for the disbandment of JTF in their no one abused them,when plateau elder's called for the replacement of the muslim commander of the military task sent to keep the peace no one called them insane,but now that borno elder's call for the removal of JTF the whole north is to blame.Borno state along does not make up northern nigeria.90 percent of the boko haram attacks are in borno,not the whole of  northern nigeria.They don't even have a mass followeship in borno,Islmaic cleric's,politician's,police men,ordinary citizen's who have critisized them have been targeted and killed,Even the SHEHU of borno is a target and you condemn the whole of the north for what is happening in borno.On hajj,do you want to tell me that gorvenment dnt foot the bill for christian going to jerusalem.about sharia i wonder why it is right for a church to build universities but muslim can't practice their legal system.on marrying liitle girl's it is a social problem which no society is immune too(,the girl's in edo who look forward to italy)is an example.you continue to say the north is the problem with nigeria,all the five bank chief that dipped their hands into depositor's funds were all southerner's.importer's of  fake drugs are southerner's,the first coup in nigeria were by southerner's,pastor king is a southerner,anini was a southerner,forger's of all documents in lagos island are all southerner's.ALL 419's and drug pusher's are southerner's.Is it not in lagos that streets are barricaded to ward of armed robber's all in southern nigeria and yet you come to this forum and say north is the problem.The problem in this country is not one ethnic group or religion it is injustice,corruption,nepotism,greed,selfishness and general indiscipline which cuts across  all geopolitical,ethnic,religiouse and social divide in this country.The earlier we own up and stop placing the blame on another the beeter.

umechuma:
Iran is an official sponsor of terrorists around the world including Boko Haram and adopted Sharia Law in the country in 1979.Any meeting with them and Nigeria will be on how to adopt Sharia law and Islamic banking in Nigeria and possibly anti-west policy.Nigeria does not need the help of an Islamic country if we want to develop because Islam is an evil religion and no full time Islamic country has developed in the world.Saudi Arabia,Libya,Syria,Jordan,Iraqi,Lebanon,Pakistan,Egypt,Tunisia,Sudan,Somalia,Afghanistan etc have been practising Sharia law which lead to poverty,unemployment,Life presidents and corruption in the region for decades now.
Unfortunately northern Nigerian leader have refused to learn anything from the experiences of the countries above because of their illiteracy and backwardness.

Below are the list of the world's poorest countries and only three out the list you mentioned are in it,the rest are mainly christian populated countries and tell me if sharia is playing a role in their poverty too. Afghanistan, Angola, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Kiribati, Laos, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nepal, Niger, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé and Príncipe, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, Sudan, East Timor, Togo, Tuvalu, Uganda, Tanzania, Vanuatu, Yemen, Zambia.In 1988, the murder rate in Saudi Arabia was 1.1 per 100,000 population, the rate of sexual offenses was 21.9 per 100,000 population, and the rate of theft offenses was 70.5 per 100,000 population.In 2002, a total of 84,599 crimes were reported in Saudi Arabia which was 387 crimes for every 100,000 people.Compared with other countries, the United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world. As of 2006, a record 7 million people were behind bars, on probation or on parole, of which 2.2 million were incarcerated.Since 1964, the U.S. crime rate has increased by as much as 350%, and over 11 million crimes were reported in the year 2007 alone.The US homicide rate, which has declined substantially since 1991, is still among the highest in the industrialized world. There were 17,034 murders in the United States in 2006 (666,160 murders from 1960 to 1996).Again compare saudi arabia that practices sharia and america which is a christian nation.you claim you don't need the help of ismaic country but is it not the delta state government that is going to build the biggest refinery in africa with saudi arabian help?where is the christian cleric that led demonstrations against islamic banking in delta state,why is he mute on this one?age long christian hypocracy at work.You say islam is evil,at least islam wont be held responsible for priests who vow celibecy only to prey and comfort in young boy's brought under their care in the catholic church with active conivance of the pope who sweeps everything under the carpet after allegations surface.
You just sit in front of a computer because you are privilaged to access one and write rubbish.you've  forgotten how the bible was used in justifying slavery,how the inquest(sanctioned by the church) was used to torture,maim and kill scientist in europe.About 6 million jews were killed by german nazis who were all christian's,that you don't mention.Who run the IMF and WORLD BANK with their draconian policies?christian's.Stop writing with sentiments and reign in your emotions.

For all those who are ignorant or know the truth and want to mislead other's it pertinent to know that iran is a regional power in central asia,it is the most technologically advanced counttry in the middle east and they are being punished with sanctions just because they have the guts to stand up to aggressors.Imagine if you are a democracy and a super power overthrows that democracy,yes that' exactly what happened in 1953 when the US for the first time openly overthrew a democraticaly elected gorvenment and imposed on the iranian people the most hated shah and ordered the CIA to teach them torture techniques.when iranian revolution took place one of the student leader's that stormed the US embassy and took american's hostage was and now the current president of iran ahmedinajad and hence one of the sore points of american antagonism toward iran.Upon all the sanction's placed on iran today their scientist's are performing,they have developed their military industry,produced tanks,apc,guided missiles,submarines,guided missile destroyer's,radar systems,helicopter's,and fighter planes.Iran scientists are helping construct the compact muon solenoid, a detector for CERN's large hadron collider.iran's institute of biochemistry and biophysics is a unesco chair in biology.iran is the ninth country in the world capable of both producing satellite and sending it into space from a domestically made launcher.The west is hell bent on thwarting and misinforming the world about iran.a wise person will know not to pick a fight for another person.

It's high time the federal gorvenment withdraws and stops posting corpers to borno,bauchi,plateau and kaduna state.

This is a ridiculous Country.Why should they face trial for the killing of a foolish man who also sent many police officers and citizens to their earlier Grave?Many of those families who lost their breadwinners are currently suffering for his insensitivity.The guy deserve to die to serve as deterrents to others.Those police officers deserve medals for getting rid of the society of him.He does not belong here.

The problem of Boko Haram has long been there. The Former Governor of Borno State,Sheriff also have a case to answer.The body Language from the Muslims in this country suggested that they are in support of Boko Haram.None of their so called Northern leaders have called them to order.Where is Ciroma and his group?I am sure the Illiterates northerners are still not aware of the full impact of what this will generate to if Christians and the South decide to hit back.They are laughing behind the scene and cheering.Let see who will laugh last.

With the kind of sentiment you exhibit and you wonder y nigeria is not better.When timothy Mcvei bombed a federal building in america the government did not use extra-judicial means to kill him, and upon all the atrocities committed by the Nazis in europe they were sentenced after the due process of law was exhausted.For your information islamic cleric's have been killled for criticising the boko haram sect which of cause is an offshoot of political machination and not based on any genuine islamic ideology.If you hate northerner's and muslim's in particular, hate them for that but not becuase they support boko haram,they don't have a place in islam,muslims and northerner's in general.