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Oga rotecch77

Trust you are good.
I used PPR pipe in the end, and TBH It cost more than what I envisaged. However, I like to think that local PVC pipes, as long as they are well fitted and not disturbed (no breaking of walls and when buried underground, the depth needs to be very good to avoid it squashing), they will equally last as long as PPR when running cold. I also used PPR for hot as well, apart from heat loss which is minimal and the fact that non welded joints can have a tendency to leak due to the fact that where there is movement, leaks can happen. Whilst working with heating engineers here, they told me that they always prefer to use compression welding of 15mm pipes in hard to reach areas (like under floor boards) and sockets/joints on surfaces that they can easily reach. Are there such standards in Nigeria or is it anything goes ?

I dont see any problems using copper pipe. Older houses used copper pipes and majority of them are still standing today and no issues.

Please correct me if i am wrong with any of my analysis above.

rotecch77:
Oga truthinlife, do you have mechanical drawing for this, if yes let me see so that i can help with the qoute , also materials to be use determine the cost, for example if you are using Nigeria made pipe for the cold water supply and copper pipe for the hot water supply the cost will lesser, but if you using encho pipes and fitting, technogreen pipe and fittings mean you most ready to spend more money but the quality is there

In my experience, I found that with the screeded cement wall, the paint that I used was somewhat less. It also meant that the finish after painting was very beautiful, when you also have water splashes it easily washes off.

twinskenny:
This is the house with cement screeding

LooooooooooooL
He could be a reformed man who knows (its possible to repent). Maybe that's the reason for the new moniker.

back2sender:
I knew he was the one. The pattern naa the same

Madam

I have sent it again, abeg check please.

gabbytabby:
I just checked i no see your email o.

Conspiracy theory don start again looooool
Looking at the registered date does make me say hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn !! who knows who is who these days, it could even be the Donald i.e Trump

3strikes:
[size=20pt]This colorful comment remind me of somebody.....#mrcrayola
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Afternoon Madam.

I sent you an email ooo.
Lets not pray for WW4 oo. I think Trump is going to be all noise and no action. Forget those electoral promises, its not how things work in Capitol Hill.

The Mexico wall, the only way he can do it is to tell them that build the wall or else i will slap 40% tariff on exports, and why would Americans want to pay more for thier tomatoes because of Trump, think of the effect on inflation etc. In this day and age, not a lot of people care where things are made, they just want it cheaper and to get good value for money.

If I see 2 laptops, one made in the UK and one made in China, both thesame and of identical specs, but the UK one cost 30% more, why would I buy it because I want to be a nationalist ?

Always a good idea to have roots back home, I know some folks in thier late 50's and early 60's with no Abode back home, and they complain when friends remove mattress from their backside, whilst staying at the home of others.

gabbytabby:
When I was in my 20s I though I was done with 9ja. As I moved into late 30s and early 40s I learnt to appreciate having a fatherland and having roots there.

I feel more balanced now and know what both diaspora and my roots give to me.

The world is changing and some are going back to what we all agreed is bad legacy to the human race.

There is recession all over the world and people are looking for who to blame. A hungry man is indeed an angry man.

I seriously pray we do not get a 4th World War. Its looking like arrmagedon to me.

I try to stay clear from endorsements, but this is an exception. Abdulwastec has my vote and support in this case.

Qc1:
any 3rd or 4th ?

See chairman
I don't know isheri north very well. But I have been inside the lagos state scheme 6 years ago or so.
This was when a nearby river used to overflow.

Is yours lagos side or ogun side.
I wonder what the soil condition is there. I was told raft was a definite 6 years back.

Qc1:
@ skimanski, segcymoor, spyder880, abdulwastecx....etc

Good morning all.

I have a land in Isheri north from Opic, I need a good suggestions on who to award the building contractor to, I have already contacted one of my favorite builders here but it seems he is busy with another project right now. I need to start this project ASAP since I have some funds to go all the way to carcass right now.

Below is a picture of something similar to what I have in mind. A 4 bedrooms duplex in front and a pair of 2 bedrooms flat in the backitchen.

Egun, Hajj Mufu....over to you!

Thanks.

Wow
A different perspective. So you think Nigerians didnt vote for Bubu, but Obama pushed him onto us ? If i remember/correct, Obama has not even stepped foot into Nigeria before.

greenermodels:
i believe trump is not as bad as the establishment media paints him in bad light and that distorts the public image of him, Obama foisted buhari on us,they deployed soldiers in Ghana when we went on presidential polls, they issued threatening and lengthy public statement with Britain's Cameron on the evil that would befall us if buhari should lose without doing much to even sound political correct about it,Hilary is a war monger who can actually deploy troops even in Nigeria, we need an American president that would actually mind American business and believe me, most illegal immigrants are going nowhere.

You are not alone. Even Haji self must be disappointed. I just wonder what Egun's take is on the matter.
Is Nigeria an option sha ? For this recession. I pray one day it becomes a viable option for most o. On the racist police, can it really get worse than this ? I mean even when a black dude was in power, what did he do about it ? Nothing in my book o.

I feel if someone like Trump calls the police to order, they might listen more. But for now USA can forget about restricting gun ownership.

true2home:
I'm just glad i have Nigeria as an option. I see why African American are bleeped up...Pussy grabber and Putin
s playmate is now the most powerful person in the world. This is a disaster, i couldn't sleep all night. I have always believed that Americans will always do the right thing, but after last night, that believe has dissipated. I'm totally lost right now...very disappointing.

I work with bunch of them Deplorable s and come see how they are celebrating this guy that going around assaulting ladies and i just dont want to think about what the racist police are going to start doing to us!!! this is a license to kill all at will

Chai !

Coming from a strong man o.
Anyway, wetin we never see. Life goes on my brother. Trust our Nija joke politicians, PDP are now saying they are ready to work with Trump . Na una type Trump dey find ? Abi wetin PDP wan help them do, building the Mexico fence or what !!

3strikes:
[size=20pt]@ Maverick...I dont even know how to comment on the election. lets just continue to talk about buildings. thanks [/size]

Its a tricky one, remember how Obama had the 2 houses for the first 2 years and done nothing with it. Paul Ryan didn't like Trump, hows that going to play out now that he has to work with him.

2 years is not a long time in politics, only felt like yesterday when young Obama came into office, that's 8 years ago now. In Yoruba, "Aiye n'lo, a den to "
Let small scandal happen now, which trust me there will be plenty of, before you know it, there will be mid term elections and he might not hold the 2 houses again. Obama I felt was a missed opportunity. Any legacy the guy put for ground, Trump will destroy it guaranteed !

kopell:
They have the house the senate and now the president, and they will pick Supreme Court judges, man they have everything, the damage these will do with power. This are my concern, I hope things go back the way the are in the 50's.

@Haji/3strikes/Egun

(In an American voice) What happened mehn ? Not really liked the 2 candidates, but i felt Hilary was the better of the 2 bad apples.

How could Trump get into office ?

Was it that Email Fiasco ?
Was it the lack of black votes ?
The Rust belt (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Detroit) white working class (Blue Collar workers) getting angry ?
What happened to the Latinos ? and how could Trump have won Florida. I mean this state is not Kansas or Alabama !
Or like Brexit, people secretly liked Trump but would keep quiet or pretend to be Hilary so as to be politically correct ?


I dont think he will do half of what he promised anyway, its not how it works.

Wow

Glad to know you are close by, really good to know that.
Let me know if you need anything, learnt so much that If I was ever to build another house, I expect 70% less stress and at least deliver 95% of what I actually want . I have learnt that in Nigeria, if you want them to build you a car, you need to tell them it needs 4 tyres, an engine, a wiper, a steering, bumper, ignition. Just never assume there are standards

amanikondo:
Wow!!! This is inspiring. I give you Beyonce hand . You have tried a lot at this stage. The finishing is superb. I am at the other side of the road to your side and 90% of the work were done by Nairalanders too. I plan to document mine too when the time comes but that will be early next year. I will connect with you for some vendors you can recommend for some tasks.

3strikes:
[size=20pt]Anyone miss pictures of chateau de Brabus yet?[/size]

Give me a break, na that Buhari mud house i for like see.

Oga

Thanks for the compliment; you will also be able to build your own house by God’s grace (if you have not done so already), AMEN. For now it’s just the last leg that one is trying to wrap up.

You see the Journey in the last 18 months has been very challenging, interesting, good learning curve and I can only thank God. You know people like us don’t like noise on top kobo-kobo project, and when you look at what Otedola et all are doing, you know we are tiny when compared.

I am thinking of writing something called “Building from the diaspora”. It’s a summary of my experience so far. I have advised other friends especially from diaspora about building in Nigeria. It’s definitely not for the faint hearted. The pleasure is when it is all done, may God give us the strength, good health to enjoy what we have worked hard for and keep us away from those whose sole aim is to do evil/ cheat others using their deceptive techniques. AMEN

So far

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amanikondo:
@Mavverick, I dey see your edifice as I dey pass Lekki Epe Expressway, you no go give us update for Nairaland? That thing is not for salary earner in Naira. More grease to your elbow.

Miss ke !!!
Love the fact that the thread is serving it's usefulness.
I had rather look at the new NAF HQ https://www.nairaland.com/3441670/olonishakin-commissions-naf-headquarters-complex

NL1960:
This one that you are mentioning brabus name, i hope you are not missing his google inspired builds and solutions that he normally post here.

Well
I don't usually put emails on public thread unless one is as silly as brabus.

I suggest you message me via NL.
Thanks.

back2sender:
Oga Maverick i need to get in touch with you. Is there a dummy email you Use so that i can reach you. I ask for dummy email so that oniranu people that abounds here will not flood it uneccesary with thier penchant dubiousity
You will know its me when i send the email.
Thanks

Must admit, I was always told that finishing will cost almost as much as the carcass. This is the time when you wished your build was smaller . Talking from experience, you can spend 15M and you will ask yourself, where has the money gone to, and yet there are still things to do. Its very mind bugging, my own take is to know what things are important to you and what things are less important/you can compromise a little on. In Nigeria, everything get grade, and every grade get price. Even palmwine self, as I found out .

skimanski:
My Oga how I wish most clients can be as realistic as you are.

ANytime i tell someone finishing your house will cost 40m - 45m They respond as if I do not know what i am saying. I dont know if they want me to tell them 25m and yet comfortably pay not wandering how it will get done. They come up with the story of building been sold at 45m Plus land in places.

Very true observation. Hot pots, soaked with water, butchering blocks, knife marks, deep scratches. Name it all. This is what can happen with a tenanted property when the tenants dont send you.

Anyone actually thought of tiles ?

marylandcakes:
That was one of the reasons I used granite, cos it was for a tenant and I thought they don't really care about your worktop, so something hard wearing like granite will be the best. My brother used laminate top for his tenanted flat, at the end of the tenancy, it was all burnt out because the tenant put hot pots, and knife marks, it looked so horrible, he had to redo the whole kitchen again.

Is that 18 million kobos ?
To me I see nothing special in this kitchen, I can get same thing or even better self, I will also get one with real granite, spot lights under the cabinets, Island with gas cooker in the middle and drop designer lights there plus all other sorts of upgrade, and i will barely touch N5m.

I have exact same kitchen door and handles, but not bullet proof and I know how much I buy am. Same with the built in larder fridge/freezer stuff, it does not cost a arm and a leg (I dont know about Nigeria o). Also can the maker test that its bullet proof and will he stand in front make soldier nack Ak47 ontop am ?

I dont see anything funky in it at all, in fact its standard kitchen in the western world to me, just that it has a lot more cabinets etc.

segcymoor:
Guy! Has any one hear craziest money spent on kitchen cabinet or spent baddest money on kitchen cabinet before!

Guess d amount this funky kitchen cabinet gulp.



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Without exaggeration. 18million naira only!

In my experience with commercial properties, its due to lifestyle behaviors. For example most people dont like opening bathroom windows to let moisture out, when moisture hits a cold surface it can cause condensation which can then lead to damp issues. It happens everywhere even in developed countries. Other times its due to lack of care on the path of the occupants.

In cases like this, what can one do ?

gbadexy:
Mould occurs on persistently damp wall.
Get rid of the damp and there won't be mould or any growth.
There are anti algae and fungi additives for paints though. But those too won't be effective for long in a damp condition.
Use undercoat and matte or any paint with high polymer content.
Be sure to identify the source of the damp first for any longlasting effective treatment.

This is what i am talking about.
Okun Mopo is definitely Ibeju, Kopell any idea what the place is like now. I last visited 6 yrs ago. Sandy and very deep inside that you may not even know what is going on elsewhere in Lagos.

I went to view a beachfront land then, but found the sellers a bit dodgy (title is still under processing after they said it had good title). I just enter car zoom away .

kopell:
Yes it has a lot of things to do with Area. When was the last time you did one? By the end of Monarchy Road in Sangotedo by the left just about less than a quarter of a mile, all those area are under Ibeju Lekki. Many people thought it was in Eti Osa, until you do your survey then you find out it is actually in Ibeju Lekki. The exact location I am trying to describe is by the end of Okun-Mopo in Ibeju. Very close to Eti-Osa. Again in regards to your argument that survey has nothing to do with area, it does have a lot to do with area. Here is my prove to survey fees, or else it was changed last month I believe this is the most up to date information. Even in Ogun state it does not matter any village as of two months ago it will still costing an average of 180,000 from genuine registered surveyor.

Hello Madam

So you think that Banana Island survey will be thesame as say Epe ? If we were to follow state wide theory.

When i wanted to price mine over a year ago, the guy made it clear to me that there is a minimum fee he has to pay to his association or something like that.
Having done surveys in Ajayi Apata also, even though I know the surveyor the man still collects his 300K (non-negotiable).

In the end, I prefer to use a registered surveyor that can give me the right documents and make sure its dropped at Alausa as well, he showed me proof of lodging at alausa including a receipt of payment etc, in the end I got my Governors consent so i know its legit and not a anyhow survey.

What can sometimes happen with quack surveyors is that they will collect a low amount, then when you want to perfect your title, you will start encountering problems. Mind, I know what i am talking about here.

gabbytabby:
Oga mavverick its usually between 120-150 unless its more than a plot then it might go up to 200k

About 300K
Ensure you use a registered surveyor.

Itstyme:
Please can anyone give a precised cost of land survey? Property is located around Sangotedo axis, Lagos. Thanks.

Hello Madam

Maybe he/she doesnt want to be quoted abroad price

gabbytabby:
Me I be old school so unless I know you or have invited you to facebook or whatsapp me I will not respond to whatsapp from a total stranger.

Even if you dey abroad this no be ijebu matter and that is coming from iya ijebu.


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wealthlift:
Can someone hook me up with a reputable supplier of Stone Coated Roofing Sheets?

The roof is 278 sqm

Hello

I will always advice that you have some form of security on site o, things go missing easily otherwise, it could also be workers/opportunist etc. I have had people come with vans to pack materials from site, and one even came with his car to pack remaining roofing sheets. This same person was approached to return it back, and thats what we used to roof security/power house.

With plumbing also, there are some small materials that can easily enter bag before you know it. Even big heavy materials dey fly comot site.

B3sty:
Ok...Thanks for the reply, it's really helpful. No fittings yet, was just asking about the piping, materials & workmanship. I just want to knw the average amount I'm going to budget for this project that's why I'm asking anyway...hope the piping won't be tampered with cos there is no provisions for Doors / windows yet.

Amen and you too.
Good luck and all the best with your project.

back2sender:
God bless you Maverick for this check list. At my decking stage too for my 8 Mini-flats. This will be very helpful

I have to agree with you Oga Spyder

Given the choice of cheaper and quicker construction material at the expense of a harder wall to break, i would prefer blocks/harder walls to break, at least 2 eyes go close, belle go rest for night .

spyder880:
Which other ways do you suggest we use it, as wall partitioning?

Then again, the problem of our security. In this country, bricks are sometimes preferred because of the relative difficulty in breaking down a wall and gaining illegal entry into a room/house.

What about the possibility of noise transfer in between the partition? Will it be possible to listen to what is happening in the next room just because the walls are not bricks?

thanks for the info.
I would have thought this could be fixed by spraying some kind of hardner on it that would make it very hard. Just an idea.

spyder880:
Yes, a thin layer of cement and bonding gum is applied as screeding for the external surfaces of the polystyrene parapet. But nothing is applied inside ceiling space. If rodents can burrow into this exposed part, and work on it, they can create a space which can lead to the outside.

Oga spyder880

What kind of issues/repairs might be needed for an inhibited building apart from dirt/dead rodents etc ?
What steps can one take to minimise such repairs or even avoid it self, the problem most people in diaspora experience is that if they put someone inside the house they person might use the house anyhow, when they eventually come back and they see the state of the house, it causes animosity and to even evict the person (especially family member) self na another wahala.

So I am just trying to see whether there is a middle ground from a builder like your good self.

spyder880:
The cost compensates for the eventuality, the polystyrene parapet is about 60% (or less) of the cost of the concrete parapet. That is a small part of the problem. But in case of any eventuality, making repairs in an inhabited house and the attendant inconvenience to the occupants should be quantified in monetary terms too.