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Oga spyder880

Pls correct me, but I thought the polystyrene parapet gets plastered in with cement, so why would cats/rodents chew it. Abi which kind cats we get for nija . Pls enlighten me because polystyrene parapet will be considered by myself in the future.

spyder880:
The cost compensates for the eventuality, the polystyrene parapet is about 60% (or less) of the cost of the concrete parapet. That is a small part of the problem. But in case of any eventuality, making repairs in an inhabited house and the attendant inconvenience to the occupants should be quantified in monetary terms too.

Credit to diordaves, I was going to bring this up yesterday.

The building in question was put up in the last 5 years after they demolished an old building sitting on the plot, anyway thats not the main point.

With new building regulations in the UK, the flooring of new builds needs to be insulated. In fact during a renovation 2 yrs ago, I noticed this similar material used on a kitchen floor and it was damaged, what we did was completely rip it up, fill it up with sharp sand and then tiled it. What I see with this building was that they used it on the floor of the car park and probably didnt cover it with some heavy material, when the water company supply pipe burst (12 inch pipe with continuous water pressure), it must have damaged what was used to hold the polystyrene onto the ground and then made it float. When it started to rise, the inevitable happened with the ceiling of the cars hitting the decking above and crushing the cars.

Here is my question, when I did my insulation myself I used what we call a 100MM Celotex board which is similar to polystyrene, I then used plaster board/plywood to screw it onto the batons of a dry wall frame, could something not have been used to cover the polystyrene boards, such that if they float that material will pin it down ?

abdulwastecx:
Good question sir, I will try do some justice to the best of my ability.

To start with, polystyrene in most cases is a non structural form that can be use to reduce weight and cost of structural members like slab, portion walls, roof and concrete fascia ( from a structural perspective). It can be use for non structural form like ceiling, window hood and so many other design.

Can polystyrene be use for foundation? Absolutely yes... Polystyrene can be use for ribbed or waffle foundation as a replacement of concrete volume where a series of rib beam are introduced both ways (waffle) or one way (ribbed slab).

Can polystyrene be use for suspended slab? It can also work like in the foundation as ribbed and waffle slab.

Can it be use as a partition materials? Yes, it can be use as a partition wall and have a great advantage of lightness and faster mode of installation. It made it possible to have a more flexible structural layout because portion load will be negligible. It also make it possible to reduce beam thickness and numbers because lesser load is transmitted.

I had to do this only once, so am sure there are a lot of experienced heads that can also chip in.
Here are my checklists.

# Ensure you have more than enough cement, if they tell you 200. have 250 on site
# Granite and sharp sand also follows the advice up here, dont worry if it remains you will still need it for lintel and other works
# Get your caster to come and view it and plan how they would deck it, for my first decking we used 2 machines and entry/exit points by either sides.
Your concrete biscuits should be in place, square shaped concrete used to lift up the iron works so that its buried inside concrete and not too close to the ceiling surface downstairs.
# Ensure that you consult your structural drawings or your engineer checks that all pillars are in place etc, its easy to add now but more difficult and less effective later.
# Settle omonile before hand if such applies
# Tell your caster they need to be on site by 6AM and it must not pass 1 day
# Make sure you finalise your electrics, I really hate it when something gets missed or pipes blocked, i hate hearing that word chisel. So much so that I now have angle grinder destined for nija.
# Ask about the mix and the ratio etc.
# Make provisions for water
# Make it clear that they must use poker vibrat0r (only costs 5K to rent), I nearly sacked my caster because of this. Dont let them tell you they will tap it, you don't want none of that nonsense. The tapping means that the mix will be watery, they will now use stick to tap it to avoid pores/holes in the concrete.
# Ensure all the wood work is in place and plum. I saw a decking done for someone, the thing be like a magicians shoes, low on one side and high on the other end.
# Before they cast, ensure that the board work is clean and clear. No rubble etc.
# The demarcating walls can be filled with broken blocks to avoid concrete wastage, but make sure they sweep the board and no rubbles on the formwork. Any rubbles you will chisel off and fill with mortar, why why why when you can just sweep the formwork and ensure no rubbles.
# Study the weather before the day.
# Relax and take chill pill

Good luck and all the best.

erico2k2:
Plz lets talk Decking, who has just done his/hers, share your expirience

TGIF

Happy Friday.
With this kind recession, i wonder if intelligence officers still work.

3strikes:
My brother Ericko Dey PH? So Intelligence no carry you for airport go Army barrack? abi they no scan your passport? only few can get this joke

gabbytabby:
Mavverick, Mavverick. Mavverick hom many times I call you hmmmm...

3 times maam.
I greet you/the house, and happy Friday to all.

Maam/All, have you ever been involved in Landlord association before, any pros and cons. I told those on my street to go and form a company and also have a bank account in the name of the association, it feels as though I am talking to a brick wall. Elect a chairman, elect a treasurer/signaturies and have like 2 standing committees since we are not that much. They are behaving like illiterates, and these are people who work in banks.

The proactive one there told me it will cost over 150K to form a ordinary company, I now said to him that the estate i am close to, we have a company and like 6 standing committees (power / security / sanitation / legal / finance etc). I am not comfortable with paying any contribution into a neighbors personal account. Any advice from the house/madam Gabby.

Bross

How you dey, and how PH. Trust you full ground
Those kind letters, you read it and you laugh and laugh na real comedy

erico2k2:
ahah baba U bookmark that letter ni

Thank you for getting back in the rabbit box. The thread can now serve its usefulness.

Thank you for listening for once.

@Larwin

why do some wells etc dry up and is it true to say that Borehole in a place like Lekki is unlikely to dry up ?
Also, in most western countries they have chlorine in the water, obviously at safe levels to disinfect the water. I wonder in Nigeria, if you do not have the typical water treatment apparatus, is there something that one can put inside a tank that will be melting away slowly, whilst also making the quality of the water better i.e chlorine style.

Larwin:



https://www.nairaland.com/3236298/know-geophysical-investigation-borehole-drilling

Haji

Please ignore lastpage/excuseme, after all the BS he types, he will now claim its his wife or aunt that typed it . Clearly not one to be taken seriously. Dont let him drag you into his illicit life and into the hole he has dug for himself, and after he will claim he has older children , I wonder if those ones never disown am.

On a more serious note, the drive to push out fraudsters is everyone's responsibility. A lot of people from diaspora read the forum, I started reading over 4/5 years ago, and back then the landscape was much better, it was always a case of reading about one diasporan/non-diaspora or the other breaking ground, very inspiring and i must admit one of the things that led me to also start my site. If it was full of fraudsters like we now/used to have, it would be a turn off for most people.

So lastpage/excuseme, back in your rabbit box and let us all learn before we write petition letter to your wife abi na ladyboy now . It is clear you are a lone wolf and a trouble maker. Leave us alone in peace and carry your trouble elsewhere.

mufutau55:
At first, I was going to overlook this post, but then that would have made me a real COWARD with a Tail.

So, it has nothing to do with Moderator but with Hajji M?
Where was the Moderator when this thread was on page 19x and they said it was not going to make 200, now you are talking about page 506?
Where was the Moderator when I was repeatedly sending him a PM to close this thread when it was going out of hand?
It wouldn't have gone to this extent in other forum..

Well, let's talk about you calling me coward... do I have the right to defend and clear my name as being associated with SCAMMERS?
What do you think you are doing now when they labelled you a Scammer?
Coming to defend you? You are doing a good job of that already..

I have introduced many Clients to Brabus in the past... when Brabus was Brabus.. but he messed-up my friend's site very badly, and he was the last Client I introduced to him.. I had to get Rotecch here on Nairaland to go and make all the corrections... Thank God my friend knows me very well, if not, the term "Scammer" would have entered his mind... so before that happens and I am associated with Brabus as a scamming partner, I had to issue a Disclaimer. This may not seat well with you but you really think I cared?
But if you still believe I am so coward.... and scared of Maverick, 3Strikes, Brag3, and even Lastpage, please think again.

I am sorry I do not have time to throw words back and forth with anyone; so do no draw me into all these childish tantrums.
So please I have tried very hard to stay out of this wahalas, don't draw me into it.

Once again I did not open this thread for Brabus, Maverick, 3 Strikes, Lastpage or anyone else to come and throw insults at each others; this thread was opened as a General Topic thread to serve people for any discussion that cannot fit in other threads.

I am taking my scary as$ and cowardice out of this place... Thank you.

Hajji M.

Like a school kid,crying he called me this, he called me that .
I thought soldiers were built of strong thing, by the way is this Mr or Mrs Lastpage ? Well irrespective of Brabus, I still get job for you so as to get you off this place, I am sure you have noticed a lot of trouble makers like yourself have had thier careers ended . What is your motive here and why are you fixated by Mavverick ? Mrs Lastpage, I NO WAN DO !! Na by force ?

lastpage:
OPEN LETTER

Good Morning everyone.

I am the wife of Lastpage.

As husband and wife, we use this same account on Nairaland.
Sometimes, l make it known that it is a female/wife that is posting if l think there may be confusion. Other times l dont bother.


I opened the (Give birth thread) that has been quoted as Lastpage (My Husband) sometimes ago, to assist my former school daughter when she came up with the idea of giving birth abroad and asked me for assistance. I could not help her directly because we are not related so l promised her l would help her get information from people with similar experience. She insisted she has the money to fund it and kind people volunteered all those information and many other people that l dont know, as you can read from the responses, also benefited from the information provided.
This is why my husband (Lastpage) insisted that l should not delete the thread otherwise l would have done so a long time ago.

She gave birth in the U.K, paid her hospital bills and all was done and documented properly.
As luck will have it, she also won the Visa lottery in 2012 and eventually relocated permanently to the US, with her child. she has three kids now.
This is the summary of it.

Now, l have been reading things posted by some posters here which at best is uninformed and just mischievous.
I cannot stop anyone from making any post they want to make so, they can continue to make the post till kingdom come.

I had a serious discussion with Lastpage himself about his exchanges with some characters on this particular thread and l have made it clear to him that he does not need this sort of lowering himself, to the level that others have put themselves.
At least, if children are behaving as children, what about him? Should older person not know better?
Anonymously and online, people would say things they dare not say in person, because they dont have to defend it.

He takes to Nairaland as entertainment and unwinding but l have made it known to him that even at that, he has to carefully chose those he responds to. There is a limit to such things.
I wrote this to clear the air once and for all, with regards to many people who hold him in very high esteem on Nairaland.

Those that want to hold unto their rumour (one even said he is a woman, one even called him Brabus, imagine?) are free to do so, since that is their upbringing.
I have specifically pleaded with him to ignore those who are like children here but he is still free to have an adult discussion.
That is why l am his wife.

I will not respond to whatever insult as l cant identify the person making it.



Lastpage (Mrs)

You know those fradulent emails that you get from a Nigerian NNPC worker who needs $100,000 to release like $10,000,000 locked up in some safe. Does that open letter just not come across like that ?

If i show Oyinbo man to read, I wonder what they will think.

3strikes:
Fastshipper I think Maverick just dug out some of the proofs you need......Lets not all be blind to the obvious.

BTW : How Business na?

Also forgot to say, those who are fixated on Mavverick ( lastpage/Excuseme). Make una get a life, I thought you already had a lady writing you lover letters every week. Is that not enough for you Mr or Mrs Lastpage.

See this one ! I use people like lastpage/excuseme/brabus to make examples, often associated with negative things. You need to ask yourself, how come your name rarely comes to mind when it comes to positive things ?

By the way, I would not bother getting into any hajibaji with you, got far better things to do. I would also like to know if this is the Wife or husband so that should I change my mind, I can know how to respond ?

lastpage:
OPEN LETTER

Good Morning everyone.

I am the wife of Lastpage.

As husband and wife, we use this same account on Nairaland.
Sometimes, l make it known that it is a female/wife that is posting if l think there may be confusion. Other times l dont bother.


I opened the (Give birth thread) that has been quoted as Lastpage (My Husband) sometimes ago, to assist my former school daughter when she came up with the idea of giving birth abroad and asked me for assistance. I could not help her directly because we are not related so l promised her l would help her get information from people with similar experience. She insisted she has the money to fund it and kind people volunteered all those information and many other people that l dont know, as you can read from the responses, also benefited from the information provided.
This is why my husband (Lastpage) insisted that l should not delete the thread otherwise l would have done so a long time ago.

She gave birth in the U.K, paid her hospital bills and all was done and documented properly.
As luck will have it, she also won the Visa lottery in 2012 and eventually relocated permanently to the US, with her child. she has three kids now.
This is the summary of it.

Now, l have been reading things posted by some posters here which at best is uninformed and just mischievous.
I cannot stop anyone from making any post they want to make so, they can continue to make the post till kingdom come.

I had a serious discussion with Lastpage himself about his exchanges with some characters on this particular thread and l have made it clear to him that he does not need this sort of lowering himself, to the level that others have put themselves.
At least, if children are behaving as children, what about him? Should older person not know better?
Anonymously and online, people would say things they dare not say in person, because they dont have to defend it.

He takes to Nairaland as entertainment and unwinding but l have made it known to him that even at that, he has to carefully chose those he responds to. There is a limit to such things.
I wrote this to clear the air once and for all, with regards to many people who hold him in very high esteem on Nairaland.

Those that want to hold unto their rumour (one even said he is a woman, one even called him Brabus, imagine?) are free to do so, since that is their upbringing.
I have specifically pleaded with him to ignore those who are like children here but he is still free to have an adult discussion.
That is why l am his wife.

I will not respond to whatever insult as l cant identify the person making it.



Lastpage (Mrs)

I just knew it.
Last week, all my call plans to Nigeria got cancelled, no notice nothing and this is despite paying for it already. I cant complain much as the deal only had a day or two left to expire. I knew something had changed in Nigeria, all of a sudden all the call providers said they no longer have bundles for Nigeria again and the call costs literally doubled in some cases. I think its some kind of directive from NCC, but this didnt get reported or picked up anywhere I think.

Its now whatsapp calls mainly, and voice calls to those with no data or old phones. The lady Abiki Dabiri, its worth writing her a note as she is supposed to be Buhari's adviser on Diaspora affairs, so this is how they are planning to plug the hole in the budget ? There is God oo.

Juokorow:
Has anyone noticed the recent drastic increase in the calling rates from USA to Nigeria, a result of the inept effort by our government to raise revenues from international calls. Bossrevolution rates increased from less than 3 cents to 10 cents per minute, effective Sept. 26. The $1 that yielded over 30 minutes, can only fetch 10 minutes. At 460 naira for 1 minutes, why should I not channel 99% of my calls via VOIP, using Whatsapp, FaceTime, etc? The mentioned ineptitude relates to the neglect of "elasticity of supply and demand" ( which even market okra sellers understand in practice) in price setting even in monopolies. A 500% rate increase driven by Nigerian FedGov. tariff increase shows a deplorable, self destructive price modeling, assuming any, particularly at a time of increasing availability of cheap internet based phone calls!

Change ( economic, financial, production, commercial, etc) is often measured in nominal and relative terms, both important! Illustrative is the fact that I usually spend about $100 a month on calling home. This change means a nominal increase to $500 a month, a relative increase of 500%, all of a sudden. Had they raised it by 100 % immediately, many will say , " I understand". The upto date dizzy devaluation of the Naira is still less than 300% YTD even on the back market. Guess what, 500% or 1 zillion % times of nothing is zero. They have actually done me the favor of compelling the discipline of making my calls via the internet. The savings can go to innumerable charitable ends back home. Lest you ask, I also pay, through family support, call receipt in Nigeria. Obviously, data is cheaper than voice at home. So why should informed persons not make individual decisions that collectively may turn Our Govt. policy-----self defeating!

Pardon any heightened passion and frustration about how we "move our country" forward-ly back!

Oga Juokorow
Wetin na
The thread is now serving its usefulness, we do not have people like Brabus and his cohorts and also people like Lastpage/Excuzeme and Co supporting what any sensible person would call Evil/dubious/sharp practices.

Juokorow:
Whoa! I can get used to "this" Mavverick, the peace maker, flame quencher, fight breaker! Joke aside, thanks for brokering peace that, I assume, entails respect and civility in arguing divergent views on an issue. Peace!

Abeg

Make una take am easy, lets learn to respect each others opinions as long as its not prejudiced by tribe/religion/race etc. It was just a conversation which relates to property, as most will find that very few materials are locally made once u are about to start roofing till you probably finish a typical house.

Good concepts here, a change to see real things rather than random google pictures. I have some questions.

# The metal one would not be as strong as the concrete one, will you have something like a rail for it or will it be open like that ?
# A friend of mine who built at cooperative villa told me he used wood to cover his steps, I told him to polish/wood stain it, and then lacquer it for a nice finish. Would you be doing the same and would you be wrapping wood on all sides, as if it were my house, I would not want to be seeing any metal.
# The concrete one, what thickness of reinforcement did you use for the spine that runs in the middle ?
# Tiles/marble would look better on that, again how about kids in the house (you know kids, they may want to take shortcut and jump down) ? Any safety measures here
# Do you also think it would have been better to lock the edges onto the wall as well on one side of the concrete steps ?

A simple google search, I found some ideas. See how some of the stairs are locked into the walls, that way if something heavy is being lifted up the stairs, I would feel more comfortable.
Also, is there a concept of using aluminium railings and glass balustrades in Nigeria ? Abi we go import that one also ? Simple tempered glass see through.

segcymoor:
Designed steel step

Hello Madam

A very good point you raised, what I have found out is that the cost of construction is comparable in most areas of Lagos, made worse if soil test confirms you need raft etc. I feel if one can avoid raft/pile (depending on soil test), you can save a lot and get things done quicker. Lets start by the reduced cement, iron rod, planks, casting labour, carpenter, iron bender. Then Ikorodu starts to look like a bad idea compared to Lekki, up to roofing costs are comparable its the finishing that may be cheaper depending on the choice. If I was building a rental property, I would not use the same level of finishing in Ikorodu compared to say Agungi, what I cannot compromise on is if both require raft foundation, if that was the case, then Ikorodu would not make sense to me.

As Sege pointed out, some places in the mainland cost more to construct when compared to Lekki where everyone assumes would cost a arm and a leg. See this story here https://www.nairaland.com/3375436/alligator-caught-gbagada-lagos-used, to build where Aligator lives would not be cheap.

gabbytabby:
Contrary to what you think it actually makes better financial sense to build in this area than some of the egbeda, agege, ikorodu, ota, alimoso etc areas better income and ROI better capital appreciation.


Also, it is too simplistic to put down to herd mentality peoples reason for choosing to live in this area. I choose to not go into it in a public forum but I have lived in both and know the difference for me and my family.

Some Eastern European countries are so poor, yet I dont think there is any country in the world where you will not see a Nigerian representation.
Also those Eastern Bloc countries are being propped up by the EU to some extent to develop infrastructure, improve education etc, and this might be thier undoing, and hence why countries like the UK voted to leave the EU, they didnt like the idea that the standard of countries like Romania was now being equalised (freedom of movement for goods and labour) with countries like the UK. When the EU first started, it was with countries with similar GDP's and hence things worked well to some extent (UK, France, Germany, Holland etc).

What has ECOWAS achieved since inception, apart from Mercedes S class rolling in during every summit and big fat Sofas for them to sit on during the summits, you then wonder if its a beer parlor summit self .

abdulwastecx:
So many eastern European nation are poor, Infact majority of the world population leave in abject poverty. Prosperity is not a European thing

South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and other East Asians nation has proved to us that it is possible to developed a great nation comparable to the west Europe or North America when the citizen are focus, ready and willing to sacrifice.

We are to blame for Nigeria under development and any foreign film or European expertriate is interested in taking from us.

What you say is true, but we also have to ask ourselves what have our leaders achieved in the last 56 years, with particular emphasis on the last 30 years. Do you know that once upon a time $1 = N1 in fact self there was a time that Naira was stronger ?

You may find that if you ask the common man on the street, things are so bad now that they might prefer to bring back colonial masters, as grimy as it sounds. They will tell you to leave sentiments and focus on survival.

abdulwastecx:
Colonialism us a crime against humanity and one the most absurd concept used by so called WHITE to steal and kill most third world nation.

White don't developed the indigenous population, they dominate, exclude and marginalized host community wherever they settled. Look at the native American in the state, look at black South Africans in South Africa, look at aborigines in Australia, look at native Canadian etc. The so called WHITE create all these mess all over the world.

Our biggest problem is the type and quality of education we inherited from the so called white, they rule us for more than 60years and leave us in a serious mess, with no infrastructure, an artificial nation build on divide and rule etc.

Black or dark skin people are also capable of building a great nation if left alone, we can build our roads, electricity, factory etc if allowed to live in peace.

South Africa is in trouble because of apartheid which discriminated against native.
How would you feel if you are not allowed to attend the University just because you are Black/dark skin?
How would you feel when you are systematically camped in a getto, all your ancestorer land taking away from you because you are black?

South Africa black are one of the poorest group in South Africa because of white injustice.

I will take up arm to fight any white or Chinese invader that want to take over my country

Chai

Ijoba AWOLOWO !
That would not happen now o, I doubt it sha. When I have discussed this during beer parlour talk of the country splitting by the river Niger and Benue lines. Everybody seems to think the hausa's would be worse off, but I do not believe that. They have abundance of untapped resources and fertile ground, you saw what happened with the tomato fiasco. And you also know the SS people will say they are not Igbos

If they (Hausas) stop doing BankaDEDE, they will not be worse off. I also hear oil exists within the Chad basin, may not be in commercial quantities to warrant exploration activities. I read the Northern governors have contracted a British firm to search for Oil in the North.

gbadexy:
As long as the foreign technocrats are given free hand to operate which I doubt is possible.
Perhaps too much diversity in tribe and religion is our problem.
Successful European countries are nations with similar race and religion so they only choose leaders based on merit. Same could be said to be the reason for the relative success experienced under the regional government in nigeria.

Thanks for your honest and candid views.
No need to apologise to anyone, you are perfectly entitled to hold your views and opinions. Same way nobody should apologise for practicing any form of religion.

Safe to say that referendum is least LIKELY to happen. Just imagine how it would sound to our neighboring African brothers and sisters. Would you favour a system where we are ruled by technocrats only, not really the Chinese model but something like the communist party of technocrats? or what they tried to do with the TCN (Transmission Company of Nigeria) by bringing in foreign management consultants to manage its affairs and make decisions.

gbadexy:
Apologies to anyone that finds this offensive, but I would prefer it if the colonial masters still rule us till now. In fact if it's possible for them to rule us on request based on referendum, I would be delighted .
The presence of the whites presently in south africa is the reason they are still making progress. I don't think the blacks contribute much to their development asides from being in government.

Oga gbadexy

I salute you.
Whilst I share your views, let us look at it from another angle.

# Oil money is easy compared to other source of mass wealth, the infrastructure is already on ground, just switch on the pumps and the dollars will be flowing in.
# Various cartels exist and you will upset them if you turn off thier oil money.
# Few foreign companies would want to setup shop in Nigeria, especially European and American ones. Why ? Corruption and the fact that few things work.
# To get anything done, you need to give brown envelopes and kick backs. Most countries, at least I know UK and USA have like anti bribery laws, such that any of thier companies should get caught bribing Nigerian officials, if caught they can get heavily fined and jail terms. The Chinese spring to mind, they operate like this, dont ask, dont tell. Let us do what we want to do, and we will make sure all deals are secret. This is the reason why you see a lot of south Asian countries and the Chinese primarily operating in Nigeria, look at construction, engineering, importation and car/franchise dealerships and i am sure many more.

Let me ask you a question and to others as well, Would you have preferred if Nigeria was under colonial/apartheid rule (like South Africa before they were set free) for another 30 years after 1960 or you prefer it like this the status quo (independence 1st October 1960)?

gbadexy:
My esteemed Oga!
I was discussing with an automobile and marine industrial paint manufacturer just yesterday about the persistent rise in dollars and imported materials. The man said the gypsum export is the major forex earner for Tunisia. Most of the gypsum imported into the country us from Tunisia.
The man said there is over abundance of the gypsum in the north and was cursing the crude oil that has made us lazy.
I dare say the solid mineral present in the country can earn us more money than the crude oil but our political leaders are used to free oil money.
Many of these minerals are already being mined illegally and exported. Someone told me some Chinese export some woods back to their country weekly in containers and they are cut at arm size. We just both laughed over it and concluded it's no ordinary wood but as we don't know the value, we couldn't do anything. Perhaps it's the type ideal for toothpick or matchstick.
The oyinbos barely scratched the surface of the minerals we have due to the limited technology they had when they colonized us and stole our resources.
This country is the perfect definition of irony. Lacking in the midst of plenty.
We just want easy business. Only the foreigners invest money prospecting and targeting profit on the long term.
Your comment may just be the solution with licence given to a foreign firm and they should be taxed heavily or have a public private partnership with equal stake with the state government.

Oga back2sender

Na u dey talk like this, people are not smiling oo.
For those old enough to remember Jim Nwobodo as sports minister during his tenure, and before a football competition the scoreboard at national stadium surulere was stolen. So pop would only take a few minutes

Also read this extract from the Guardian.

back2sender:
Oga mave why you dey patent your work like this, Nobody go steal am

I see, used a lot for various purposes. The pic below is a site I drove pass. It was used to hold back lateral pressure from neighboring buildings (I think)
What do you think about its potential use in Nigeria ?

segcymoor:
Oh! This. It's here .used manly for Jetty area

Thanks for all your answers, learnt a lot.
Below are pics from sheet piling from a Canadian firm. I dont recall ever seeing such in nija, all tends to be concrete. This is much quicker.

segcymoor:
#300mm with 4m depths (short bore pile)
#Yeah. Lekki, Ologolo area (Kenny site )
#Basically, there is something we call safe bearing capacity underneath the soil. Which need to be determined in d process of soil test.In fact, that's the essence of d soil test. So It is expected to bore below water table ,clay etc to reach good sharp sand which we may refer to as safe bearing capacity.
#That is d essence of using sack and even chemical where necessary
#Sheet pilling? I no no that one o . Do u mean case pilling?
#Absolutely. Na so we wan do am
#U don't need inverted beam having pile.... Just beam to chain d pile

Have to support you on this one. Let everybody buy whatever they want to buy after all the owner of the site no come ask us for contribution to complete his site.

Besides, how about Eko Atlantic and Banana Island. All those people cannot be stupid na. They spend thier money on whatever they like, so no need to criticize them for thier choice. We all have choices and preferences, and just because others do not follow our choices, no need to harshly criticize.

segcymoor:
To start it, this is back side of our site due to recent heavy down pour.However, I think it is unfair to conclude that people craving to get properties in Lekki out of inability to think differently .(Bros,they fit think because u no fit afford am o ) But me no u fit sha.
Na value dey dey buy not the land.Water no be big.deal if done properly. As a matter of fact, many place in Lagos worst than this still no value
A case study is this where we are working recently. I ve done atleast 3 pilling in Lekki but d terrain no bad as this mainland pilling.... 12m deep!!!!..we even ve 35m deep in some area in mainland. Which can never happen in Lekki.

Does anyone know what the Pop is made of, and why is it impossible to have a Pop manufacturing plant in Nigeria. This is one area Dangote can explore if he wants to expand his empire.

Empiree:
I dont think i would bother myself supplying material. I'd prefer to let them do that. I would just pay for their quote. If i am not satisfied with it, i'd try other quotes before settling for quality and affordable one. As you rightly said, that's going to happen. They even tell you the material you bought is not original just to get their way

Engineer Agba !!

I hail o


I have some curious questions

# what is the diameter of the bores for this fence and what is the depth below natural ground level.
# I can see this area is water logged, is it Lekki and if so which area there ?
# If you continue to drill the bore, will you not hit water table and if so what will you do if that happens ?
# If you were to hit water table, will cement mix just not be dissolving inside it ?
# Is there any concept of sheet piling in Nigeria ?
# Lets say you have your bores 3M apart, to save cost can a short beam be done and then you chain it and then blocks set ?
# If the above cannot be done for technical reasons, does it now mean that we are back to concrete beams in between bore piles, sets say 4 board ?
# Is it beneficial to have an inverted T beam between bore piles if using piling ?


I know its a lot of questions, but please remember you have a lot of students oo Engineer Agba.

segcymoor:
It may surprise to average client that ordinary fence may required pilling





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This fence collapsed due to heavy flood and. Pilling is d best option

Haji

I dont know the current going rate, but at the beginning of the year N2,400 - N2,600 was the rate and I think N1,400 for cornice or the other one if you dont want full pop, you know what dollar is saying now for market, so I dont know. I do however hear from my Pop guy that its N3,500 last, he doesn't do client supplying materials as he claims that he doesn't want to be disturbing about 1 material or the other before he does his job.

I will advise you also, be extremely careful when supplying your own material. If some of these guys see that they are not making enough profit they might want to cart away with your materials (Bosun don teach them ) or even at worse waste it deliberately. I was warned when I was about to do my pop, hence why I had to go find a God fearing person even though such are rare these days.

mufutau55:
What is the average labor charges per sqm for doing ceiling POP with the materials supplied by Client.
Just the labor charges. Thank you.

Hajji M.

You no dey fear oo.
A whole decorated US trained, UK Citizen, 5 star GENERAL u yeye like that !!
Not to forget the GCFR, GCON, OON, AFR, NL, JJC, 419 titles self !

3strikes:
[size=20pt]is this thread dead? Na wa o ...see wetin Lastpage / Excuzeme and other fraudsters don cause o. Now everybody they hide their money and building codedly.

I no blame them jare.

Make them no come use English and colorful write-ups collect all their life savings and pension.

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Not a plumber, but i used primarily PPR pipes for my build, so I can give you a customers point of view. so excuse my lack of expert knowledge

Now, its a good and strong product, but beware of these things.

# It cost a lot more than PVC
# Not as widely available like PVC
# Beware of fakes, there is the original from Turkey or so and then there are other grades of lookalikes
# It has a lot of ceremony compared to PVC
# You will need Generator if there is no electricity
# Can only be used to run hot and cold but not waste, the biggest is not up to 100mm of 4" inches. I think 60 something which they dont really use in Nigeria.

I will touch on the points above briefly, if PVC pipes cost like N1,000, PPR will be like 20-30% more expensive (I dont know the prices as of today). You can rarely interchange the accessories as well, so in my experience I found myself buying 2 sets of materials, the PVC ones and the PPR ones, the PVC ones comes in like different sizes like 15mm, 21mm etc, PPR is like 32mm etc. Sorry i cant remember the exact details, those days of going to Orile are over.

The ceremony i meant is this, when my project was starting I was asked to buy the welding machine, of which I protested that why should I be buying tools for workers, in the end I looked at it that if they finish the welding machine would be mine for later maintenance etc, little did I know that the machine would not last the entire duration of the plumbing works, it spoilt and I suspect misuse on the path of the plumbers, so lets leave that story. I also had to provide Gen for like over 6 months. In fact rental would not have been worth it, I have a gen for site use. This was before I connected to the grid, in fact we still have the Gen on site. With PVC, buy tangit glue, apply to the edges and then join your pipe, end of story.

In the end, a very good product as I believe in doing things well if you are indeed going to do it, but it came at a very high cost. With PVC pipes I can glue it myself which I do in my own house for small repairs (Not nija). After I lost my welding machine due to suspected misuse, I had to buy another from Europe, as I wanted to have one on site for future maintenance etc. I dont like being exploited.

Bagehot:
I need advice from the house . . . Currently involved in the construction of my home, and just got feed-back from a plumber I got to take a second look at my plumbing that I should replace the PVC pipes in the house with PPR Materials for water supply and UPVC for discharge. I would like to inquire about what advantages I would get from doing this. I look forward to your responses.