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When was excuseme and lastpage registered ?
Lets all ask a question.

Most people who come here to read the thread generally fall into one or two of the following categories.

* Have an existing building
* In diaspora, learning about construction in Nigeria.
* Currently building
* Seriously considering building
* Building professional
* Contractor offering a service etc.
* Fraudulent people looking for victims.


[size=16pt]Now, I think you belong to the last category (fraudulent people looking for victims) because nobody really knows your motive, what category do you belong to and show us proof ?
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you come here with crayons, support brabus, talk a lot of rubbish, claim to be soldier, claim to know airport contacts when a NL lands at airport, claim to be EFCC. Can you prove me wrong because you are not making sense and your presence here is ruining things for everyone else.

For the record again, I didn't beg you (Beg a fraud supporter/fraudster ). You simply wrote your messages because you wanted to know my intentions so that you can leak them to brabus, and when I asked you for your contact number so that I can verify the faceless baboon, you absconded. Abi was it your wife who contacted me using your Excuseme/Lastpage handle ?

Excuzeme:
Shut your silly mouth there Maverick!

I only reproduced what Adeekiti wrote about you, his Client, on his own thread.
How does pasting what was already written and in public space for many months, become "single handedly destroying somebody's brand"?
Are you implying that even you (Maverick) has not read these things (afterall, you both exchanged these words back-to-back for many weeks)?
Are you saying it has prevented Adeekiti form getting other jobs since then?
Are you saying Adeekiti was lying back then and he is now apologizing?

Finally, are you saying 'm0wr0ns' like you are seeing what Adeekiti wrote about his "fraudulent Client", for the first time?


it has nothing to do with me, l just brought it up to confirm that even Maverick that his pretending that he is a honorable person, is more fraudulent than Brabus because he cheats ALL his Contractors (as the posts on that thread says)

If one looks closely, you would see that it is the same maverick using another moniker to stir things up between @Adeekiti and @Excuzeme.
That is your style of ganging-up.

This Moniker was registered August 20, 2016 just for this purpose! B-U-S-T-E-D

Damaged goods !
Finished man or woman.
Still repeating thesame old BS. You be LePar self abi wetin dem call you.

EXECUSEME / LASTPAGE, WHY ARE YOU A V*YEUR ?

How many times have you been told to move on and get a life ! Adeekiki say he no wan DO. Na by force ?

quote author=Excuzeme post=48747694]@adeekiti:

I dont find it enjoyable to have to use your old thread and raise these issues.

I know you are a Contractor and as expected, you will want to keep a cordial relationship with past, current and even potential customers hence, you wont want to be involved in any controversy.
I have read your 'general apology' and see it in that light as well

I just have to bring that thread here to let others know that this Maverick is as bad as they come.
He will make worse Brabus, if he was a Building Contractor because he steals from his artisans/workers/contractors.

I also want to show that he is a hypocrite, a liar and a bully.
Finally, he is a coward! All that boasting about using the Police to arrest his workers (in that chat he posted on that thread) is nothing but just loud-mouthing.
If he has any balls to arrest anybody, he would have arrested Brabus instead of begging me to assist him in arresting Brabus.
Even when l gave him the links, including phone numbers of the EFCC, he still wanted me to go there and do it for him.

I even explained to him that you cannot institute a fraud action against someone except you are the aggrieved person that was defrauded (because you have to make a written statement the EFCC/SFU will act on).
My own was to ensure that the matter is acted upon quickly and justice is served to anyone found guilty.

Maverick backed out and instead was asking for my own 'personal phone number' as if that was needed for him to make a report of his case at those agencies.
Then he started giving me unending excuses about how he cant make the report so, l just decided that he was most likely a criminal himself (shady background at best, even before l read your thread and what happened) or his source of money was 'dirty' thus, he cannot show himself to the authorities otherwise, he will implicate himself.
KARMA works in ways we cant understand or predict

I do feel for the people who lost money in their transactions with Brabus (that one is another serious case that needs to be dealt with) but my only sin is asking them to TAKE ACTION and stop wailing endlessly and derailing this thread, or just carry the noise-making to no less than THREE separate threads set-up to deal with such issues.

It was not my intention to put you in the spot-light again as l know that is one thing that any Contractor tries to avoid: CONTROVERSY.
But nothing to worry about, it is either your work is good and sell you or your work is bad and destroys you.
We know which one it is about you

If you think what you wrote on that thread are not a 'true reflection' of what transpired between the two of you (i.e you lied against him), you are free to delete them and l will urge you to do so, except you feel otherwise.


I have made my point and will drop it here, except ofcourse, if Maverick wants it to continue, in which case, l will respond.

Partly what i was saying, my context was a standard everyday builder, dont let us go into JB territory . The bolded below is exactly what my major concern is.

NL1960:
So you think a builder that can build a duplex can build a skyscraper?. Do you see Julius Berger doing street roads of about 200meters or do you see the construction companies like 'mavverick and sons' that go to hire equipment to do a small street road of 200meters wanting to do a dual carriage road?. The fact that somebody can drive a car does not mean that he can drive a trailer or truck. Abi, you wan tell me steering na steering. The problem we have is that people that are not competent in an area will tell you that they can do it. If your build was a bungalow, you think it would have been messed up?. Five inches self can be used for a bungalow and not for a duplex.

Not to be sarcastic, I can supervise the build of a bungalow myself without the need for a builder, as long as I have a good architectural/structural plan which would have been done based on the survey plan and also valid soil test, I will check everything to the core and ensure it is exactly as stated in the plan. I will bring my own plum, spirit level, square checker L shape thing, measuring tape literally everything I can lay my hands on.

Does that mean that builders are classed as 2 or more tiers ? Bungalows only and upstairs & bungalow.

I still feel that a builder that is only able to build bungalow is not yet a fully fledged builder, maybe an apprentice or at least if at the beginning, you make it clear you want to build a duplex and he/she honestly says, sorry I cant execute such as its more than my capability. How many would say that in present day Nigeria ?

The guy who performed below my expectations with regards to my build (Brabus Bosun Shoyoye) did it out of spite/prove a point, not because he didn't know the right thing to do. He did bad jobs on another peoples site, when they got someone else to clean up the mess "He told them that he was surprised he hasn't been called yet, because there were some secrets he needed to tell them that only he knows about"

NL1960:
Have you ever heard of experience on the job or job experience?. The experience needed on a duplex is not the same as bungalow. You can build a bungalow without pillars. There is no decking in bungalows. Do you think the builder who 'messed up' your project does not know how to build a bungalow?. How many collapsed bungalows have you seen or been hearing about?. Building a duplex is not for every Tom, Dick and Harry.

Is there really such a thing ? a builder that can only do bungalows but is not competent to do upstairs (in this case single story), I think I would just walk away if I knew that.

If it was a case of a builder that can build a standard duplex, and one that can build a structure like 3rd mainland bridge, I can understand that level of expertise and perhaps a team of consulting engineers would be required. Lets remember that some well experienced bricklayers can build a standard duplex and it will be as good as the same duplex built by the engineers who constructed third mainland bridge. I am not saying that engineers should not be consulted, I just feel that a builder that can only do a standard bungalow but not a standard residential duplex is not worthy of being called a builder. Just my 2 cents.

NL1960:
Johnny Eghosa was advised to desist from building duplexes and focus on his area of strength which is bungalows. He took the advise and i doubt there had been complaints against him since then.

Excuseme/Lastpage

I was already bored after reading 2 paragraphs and I didnt bother reading the rest, so you argue with Eriko / 3strike / Topsy and now Mavverick. So did you not sell enough oranges to hawk today or is it me that said that they should refuse your British passport application when person give you/you give belle, and you wan come born pikin abroad ?

[size=14pt]Remember, I stand by what I said Excuseme/Lastpage (Mr or Mrs), you are all psychopaths and sociopaths ![/size]



Lets get your point, you are trying to stir up what has been long settled and buried, so if you no get job to do, let me give you an objective, Nigeria only won one BRONZE in Rio 2016, if you wan dey fight online, make you channel your anger and start learning GIDIGBO, maybe you can win a medal for Nigeria in 2020 in Tokyo.

Adeekiti has said the below, so what he said about my workers was misguided and a statement that wasn't wise/isn't true, he has come to learn his mistakes\regret it, and admitted to it, that's what you call courage which a man/woman like Excuseme lacks in great portions, what does Excuseme not lack ? A lot

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So you lack credibility, and whatever you say is borne out of jealousy, being a supporter of fraud yourself and an enemy of progress. I recommend that should shut your dirty mouth/hide your fingers and [size=18pt]GET A LIFE[/size], If you dont find one, I will find one for you, you can start by showing us your 5 houses and your finished burglary !

Excuzeme:
At times, you say 'I worked there', at times you say 'l did not work there"!
Anyway, l was only quoting what was written by another person who worked there and felt cheated by Maverick.
I did not write those things. See below, where @topsy was mentioned.



Are you saying NOW, it never happened? are you saying you lied against him?
There is a difference between IT HAPPENED and was RESOLVED and IT NEVER HAPPENED.
Are you saying you did not write those things with your user i'd?
When it has been resolved, why then did you not remove/delete those weighty allegations from the net to show that it was not true and you were lying against him?
It is not just one quote, its in over eight different quotes!
Mind you, l am not asking you to fall out with him again (if l could quote this without mentioning you, as a CONTRACTOR, l would but it is not possible), l am just showing "What was said about him, by ONE of those who worked for him.[/b]
Things that finally came to pass.




An issue being SETTLED/RESOLVED does not mean it never happened, it just means both parties decided to forgo the issue.
Unfortunately, in this age of internet, [b]EVIL is NEVER FORGOTTEN COMPLETELY or why is the matter still ONLINE till today?

I know there is a lot of HYPOCRISY going on here and many others have said it before.
I also know that if you as a contractor, you depend on Clients (here) to give you jobs and it is not uncommon to say something today, and then deny it tomorrow afterall, Man must Chop!
I also know there is a lot of 'phone-conversations' going on in the background, to make it seem it never happened.
But it still there on that thread for all to read[b] and it was not written by @Excuzeme. I just made reference to it[/b]

In my former post, l made a reference to KARMA!
You do evil, expect Evil to follow you when you least expected it.
You do good, expect good to follow you.
We all (including me) will reap whatever we sow, sooner or later.
That is what KARMA is all about.

That word came about when l realized that Maverick is NOT ACTUALLY different from Brabus in manner of behaviour - People who deny others of their wealth/entitlement
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Just that in one case, Maverick was the Client who got 'brabused' when he himself have 'mavericked' Artisans/Workers who worked for him.

That an issue of cheating your workers was 'resolved', does not mean it never happened. It changes nothing because it should not have happened in the first place. These are people who have a family and live on those small-small amounts they laboured for, mostly in the hot sun.

I did not write those quotes.
Adeekiti wrote them.
Except he is saying he was lying against Maverick when he wrote those things (in which case he deserves punishment from above),
Those things HAPPENED.
Just read those comments again and you will get it.

Just like this Brabus matter will become HISTORY one day, (after being resolved), it does not mean it did not happen.
Those things HAPPENED.

I only made reference to them so that we all know that (in my own understanding), Maverick is reaping some of the Evil he sowed.
One day, Brabus will reap his own. maybe he will go somewhere to ask for help against his oppressors but it is just KARMA having a laugh at him.

I will enjoin everyone here, if you want GOOD to always happen to you, DO GOOD to others.
If you do otherwise, when KARMA pays you back, you will know in your heart that you deserve it but ego and pride will not let you confess the truth.

If l took time to read the 'history' of the one of these LEPERS called Maverick, l would not bother myself one bit because l would have understand that he is only reaping what he has sowed in the past.

We learn everyday. I have learnt to check the background properly, before dabbling into a matter, if l should even.

'Those who 'kill others' to survive, will one day meet same as their reward, when they hope to survive.
Maverick, STOP crying, you have only reaped what you sowed (wickedness) into your Artisans/Workers life by cheating them.

When it is time for Brabus and anyone else to reap what they sowed, we would all reap our own.
You just got served.

That one go hard O bros.

Rates ke ? In Nigeria where a bottle of groundnut that has a market rate of say N1,500 when you ask they start from N5,000, if you are not very sharp, cant haggle or you are forming "Brother AMERICA" you will pay that N5,000 like that.

I think this is the beauty of this site, and the GREAT service some of our engineers/users/elders (Madam Gabby springs to mind) who share their project and cost offer us, what I tend to do is look around, get an idea of rates, ask around also and then whatever I get as the consensus plus or minus 10 - 15 % is fine, as long as its reasonable. This is because several factors can come into play which also affects the rates, location also matters.

Some of my workers do not reside in Lagos, others are a mere 5 minutes walk away. I find that this can also affect costs, then the FX thing doesn't help, because that is not in their hands. Also there is a culture of secrecy when it comes to property ownership, a lot of folks in Nigeria are shocked that in most western countries you can get the owner of a property and also how much they paid for it, this info is freely available (in the UK at least), in Nija I doubt if this could ever happen.

Builders directory, who publishes it, who polices it, what is the criteria, quality checks, feedback.
We can have a directory of known NL builders, however I still think its good for each builder to showcase their works, and for every potential client to also do their due diligence. I like to think there is a wealth of info out there these days compared to a few years ago.

battleaxe:
In light of recent statements and to steer the conversation in a different direction, I think some of what we lack generally is like a builders directory or standard rates that are applicable for services.

I do not believe that most of the people based in diaspora, especially who have worked/work by the hour would be against paying people their dues.

The issue is, what is this standard pay?

How do I know when I am paying a premium, or when someone is cheating me?

To be clear, it's fair for everyone to put a premium on their rates and say this is what I am offering extra that you cannot get by paying Mr. A, X amount.

Until such a time, people will have to wander in the dark, negotiate and perhaps give the impression that they're trying to score a cheap deal.

So, is it possible to have a directory of rates? It can be updated per time as required.

You mean proper paved with interlocking or ashplat road ?. Thats nice.
Thats a good idea, means chairman plenty for that your side be that. I wonder how to get a road done in the community by the residents. Personally if they ask me to contribute, I do not mind. Its just that some people will say that, abeg leave am like that jooor.

Has anyone experienced a situation where the landlords on the street constructed the road ? How did they go about this and I am guessing this is only going to be possible if the road is fully occupied or a high occupancy level. How about gutters ?

msogunro:
Yes, there is a road leading to the site. From the express way to the site the road is paved. The paved road ends in the area I bought land which was Virgin land up until this past April when people started buying and clearing their land. My site is in an established neighborhood, but it's just a new section that has been sold.


We have a "neighborhood chairman". When the time comes, he is supposed to get in touch with owners about paving the remaining roads.

I thought as much, but deliberately wanted to ask.
from what I know, i don't think its possible to lacquer finished MDF, the reason being that the surface will not allow liquid ingress unless it has been damaged or peeled off. I stand to be corrected though, we are all learning.

gabbytabby:
I use real wood and plywood. That is the spelling lacquer.

Pls confirm the material used here ? I have only used lacquer on real wood or pine wood.

gabbytabby:
First and foremost is not to leave property unoccupied for extended periods to avoid the insects opportunity to build a colony. Dusting and wiping regularly also helps.

We tend to use sandy sealer and lacker to polish after installing which gives a slightly slippery shine and also treats the wood. I think it serves as a kind of repellant

I do not know much about kanfor balls save for its use for clothes. Also my understanding of fumigation is just to do away with the smell or stench.

I saw the above contributions after and interesting to know people's experiences. That is what is so good about this exchanges

There is no mention of the following:

Title
Survery plan
Gazette
Excision
If its under Lagos state or Ogun state.

If you are selling a property, I think you should be open with information.

Madam

How do you think family and friends have looked at you if they knew you had property in Nigeria ? Would it be the same or are you viewed differently ?

Could that be the reason why one can become an ATM ?

Morning Madam

Please any advice here on those wood boring insects, because I have personally seen a kitchen reduced to dust because of these insects, this is why for my commercial rental units, I didnt use wood for the kitchen worktop.

I know that MDF/HDF do not like liquid treatment moreover the edges get taped, so the wood cannot be treated like ply of proper hard wood etc, from my little research I found using hardwood expensive in the long run. Is the solution to use those KANFOR balls, you know those white balls they put inside cabinets ?

Also, what are your thoughts about fumigation, I have some of these pressure sprayers that I use in the garden, so was thinking that one can buy fumigation chemical and do it as a precaution or perhaps get someone to do it.

gabbytabby:
I just wonder the effect of lagos ikon and other wood eating insects on these materials.

Larwin

In my small experience, I tend to find that if the person that you are calling for project monitoring can also do the real thing, if they do not supply the materials or bring the workers, they hardly put their all into it, unless you find a really God fearing person, shebi na to dey send picture, remember how 3strike was being sent pictures even though his builder then (BRabus) was no way near site.

The best person to supervise is you yourself who owns the project. Its just that those in diaspora do not have that luxury, thats why the likes of brabus thrive, saying that there are some really good people on here, spyder, segemoore , abdulwastec to name a few, diaspora or no diaspora, the work gets done as agreed.

Good that you report back to a client after you visit thier site, I really like that. It just shows you care. Keep it up

Larwin:
There is what we called Project monitoring. You can employ a company for ds or individuals with good integrity. they will make sure you get the best service.

If I go to any Nairalander site to work, I always try to give them a feedback on what is happening on their site.

Erico

How you doing bros ?
How is your site, when we go come chop jollof as per house warming ?

erico2k2:
U will need to have a quality you want in mind then you chose the quantity, is this for personal or commercial use?

Chai

One should always thank God o.
My borehole never stop and how much I do am self, 140K if i remember.

kolnel:
A hole is classified as low medium or high yield
You will be very lucky to have a continuous flow of water on that site for one hour

From my years of experience I have not seen a yield of 3 hours continuous water even with high yield
You should pls try and get the ground water history of that area so as to envisage what to be expected by looking at nearby wells or boreholes

Adeekiti

No hard feelings between us, to be fair to you. I think you got too close to some unsavory characters. Yes we talk a lot, and I used to speak to you as a brother, I was shocked when you started leaking private confidential chat on a faceless forum. I wish we had settled earlier, and I offered you an olive branch of a meeting on site, you spat on it and said no.

Adeekiti, I wish you all the best in all your endeavors.

adeekiti:
Here is an apology over every issues regarding mr Maverrick windows and Im appealing to everyone over the misunderstanding with him. I appreciate your advice and huge thanks to you sir/ma and our customers

I think you can help us by telling us the size of the wardrobe, what kind of material, kind of finish, and most importantly the kind of wardrobe. I didnt do a wardrobe for a personal house, the the requirement was very simple, 4 ft size, and 2 drawers at the bottom. Fixed location, not movable. So I calculated and vetted exactly how many boards a wardrobe takes, so I do not want anyone to BS me. I know how much the boards cost, so I have an idea what is a fair price.

Some facts

MDF is cheaper than HDF
You should not need HDF for wardrobe, perhaps kitchen would need HDF.
MDF has different level of thickness.
If you do one that is movable, I suggest you get original tyres fixed on it, from my experience of Ikea wardrobes and other flat pack wardrobes, what makes them weak is when you start moving it.
One board is usually 2.4M long, cant remember the width.

Thinking of our local ply wood is somewhat hard-work, it may not be cheaper than MDF when you add it all together (sanding, spraying, perping ad the finishing), unless you want make dem rub am with palm oil
If you want to save cost, buy the boards yourself and pay only labour, get the guy to give you the design and draw it on a piece of paper, get like 2 quotes for materials. Go to Amu market and buy it yourself, that way you also reduce the chance of being shafted if they run away with your money, since you are only paying for cutting and assembly/labour.

If you are not on ground, try to get a God fearing person, who comes recommended and know where they live .

peaceland:
@gabbytabby, @brag3, @Qc1, @mavverick, @mufutau55, @all
Good day madam/sirs,l
Please I need help and advice on getting wardrobes.
The bills I have been getting has been to say the least fantastically exorbitant.
practically half a million for 4 units!!!
Will appreciate you please sharing practical experiences on how to go about this without breaking the bank; block work in place; space already tiled just to put the wood and that's all
Thanks a lot.

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peaceland:
@gabbytabby, @brag3, @Qc1, @mavverick, @mufutau55, @all
Good day madam/sirs,l
Please I need help and advice on getting wardrobes.
The bills I have been getting has been to say the least fantastically exorbitant.
practically half a million for 4 units!!!
Will appreciate you please sharing practical experiences on how to go about this without breaking the bank; block work in place; space already tiled just to put the wood and that's all
Thanks a lot.

Oga msogunro

Is there an access road to your site, i ask because almost 3 decades ago when I used to holiday in Ibadan, my aunt had a house someone near ring road or so, it was a hilly secluded area and I think they must have had to construct the road by themselves.

msogunro:
But it's not only getting water at 80m is it? Doesn't the water have to flow consistently for at least 5 or 6 hours before it's considered a success?

Either way, it appears that I will need to prepare to pay this lump soon because the fence is going up!!!!

Sir Larwin

Why people from Diaspora, are they the only ones who want quality but cheap services ? I think i have to disagree, just because you have painted everybody with thesame brush, you do however make very valid points, however let me add some salt to the cooking.

As brag previously pointed out, even the most expensive service isnt always the best value for money. I look at value for money and not necessarily cheapest.

Let me throw out some questions.

# FG discovers fake malaria tablets, do you think that someone from diaspora would have sanctioned the importation/production of fake malaria products, I am sure its cheaper than the real thing.

# I watched a documentary a very long time ago, then the woman that was busting fake stuff through NAFDAC was in focus busting so many fake pharmacies supplying fake drugs, the indians where the drugs came from said that it was Nigerians on the ground who asked them to fill the capsules with chalk. I cant remember the womans name, she had so many death threats because of her patriotic actions.

# Topsy/Apocatelic or some username like that have lamented on the high number of fake electrical cables in the market, was that sanctioned by people in Diaspora wanting quality stuff for cheap prices ? I do not know the sales figures, but I would not be suprised if such cables are selling faster than coleman, Kabelmetal etc.

What everyone should also know is that I started following Brabus 4/5 years ago, then the wealth of information available now was not available then, for starters NL had so few builders then. I was really inspired by a chap who finished a house called OLUWA CHAMPION. It takes courage and determination to expose fraudsters, the people doing so now do not get paid for thier time, they are doing so, in order to ensure that we do not have a repeat of their experience, and to also be each others brothers keeper.

Larwin:
Have been following this thread for quite a while now. I ve follow and unfollow. I think where most people in the diaspora missed it is the point that they want quality but cheap services. It all started when you begin to compare quotes.

Comparing of quotes shouldn't make u decide on going for the cheapest. In the real business world, most people go for the highest quote and not the lowest. You can even smell anything fishy from quotes and that will prevent you from getting into the wrong hand.

You should know dat d person giving you cheaper quote will make sure he cut corners so as to meet his own ends. It's normal... Some firms do lower their quotes but by comparing several standard quote, u should be able to make some wise decision.

It saddens me hearing so many people were defrauded but I believe you guys will definitely come over ds. It's painful not seeing what you ve paid for.

I am into Borehole drilling geophysical investigations and from my little experience dealing with people abroad, I can boldly say what they want is cheap and quality services which Is not possible to get.

I guess this is a lesson to every other million Nigerians living abroad.
I will advice Brabus to contact all his clients and settle any disagreement. I guess he would have learnt his lesson too. Good name is better than money.

Not an expert, so pls treat my comments with caution.
The smaller drill might mean a smaller diameter of pipe to go into the ground to draw the water. A smaller drill might not be able to go as deep as a bigger one. Have you tried asking them about these 2 points ?

msogunro:
My people, I need your help in confirming borehole drilling.


I spoke to another borehole drilling operator and I was given another quote of N450K.

He later said it can be done for N300K if they use a smaller drill.

My question is, has anyone heard of using a smaller drill for a borhole?

I wasn't aware of varying sizes of drilling machines allowing one to do the job at a cheaper cost.

Just to burtress brags's point, this is the cheapest option that i found if you dont have the side walls for wardobe done already. What happened in my case was that I had already tiled the floor, and to cast the wardrobe would have meant the following.

# breaking the plastered walls
# breaking some of the floor tiles to set block
# setting new blocks, and anchoring it into the existing wall which will be slightly broken.
#If you want the top to be concrete, you will also need iron bender to set like 12mm rods.
# I was also told the concrete wardrobe na old school, truth is that me I do not care. If I had the blocks set from day 1, thats what i will implement for practicality sake and keep cost down.
# plaster the walls back again.

I felt that was too much, so I have a fixed wardrobe made from MDF, I will share some pictures next week. In one of the flats, I had a 5ft space created for wardrobe from the onset, this is where they just put a side shelf and a standard 4ft wardrobe, and it was not necessarily cheaper, the guy talk say the extra mdf he carry do shelf nko.

brag3:
No o. This is the cheapest option. Believe it. This is also built in. You dont need to cast anyting. Just wood on either side and front doors.

For built in wardrobes if u already have the area made for it from the onset then that may be cheaper but in my case i did not have that so this was my cheapest option

As eye don take open now, you cannot afford to to brabused again. I have said to a few folks, if i was ever to build in nija again, I know where to cut costs drastically and still achieve quality, it may not be very fine but it practically works.

Oga QC1, as a chairman porsha jeep no too big for you oo.Last time i saw tinubu in lagos he was driving a G Wag, you can do better than that oga QC1. Me no like that jeep (looks like a matchbox), unless the fully souped AMG's, I will take an overpowered porsha.

Qc1:
^^^

Chai...! Oga mavvrick, if you have a junior sister, your brother-in-law don buy market oooo!






On a more serious note, you're right. I will be damned if I get "brabused" again.

Lol. E be like say u sabi brabus well well.

He gets people in by doing this:

# Giving you a cheap unrealistic quote, how can you blame people in diaspora, some do not know the going rate and dont want to be cheated either.

# With cement, if you need 100 he quotes like 220 and then lowers the unit cost, so you think you are getting a bargain, but he's shafting you on one side. If you go buy your own, he brings a van to come to steal it. if you question am, he tells you he knows the wife of dangotes friend, so cheaper prices. That same dangote friend wife calls you to complain about the lack of payment from brabus on other deals they did, so you end up consoling that one, even though e no concern u.



# With iron rods, same thing. lower unit cost but inflated quantity, yet he doesnt pay the suppliers so those ones end up coming to your site to moan. where you need 2 tonnes, he tells you 3 or 4 but slightly lower prices compared to market rate.

I was just lucky that I had a supplier in the Lekki Axis, I call him up and make my own arrangements. Despite that self, brabus dey park white van for my site stealing materials, then telling me to call a scientist to estimate the amount of cement he has used. I am being serious, and this na same person Excuseme/Lastpage dey go into bed with

jossy26:
Baba no go build house wey go collapse oo; irrespective of the clients taste that amount won't fly; don't cut corners, don't be too desperate....abi are you one of brabus protégé?

High taste oo. I am sure madam would love this.

I would not give someone this kind of kitchen to do if i am not there in person or if the worker cannot show me similar stuff he has done which looks like this. Get madam this kitchen and a grand living room, then throw in a porsha jeep for those bad roads. If i be woman, i no go too far from Nija oo with all that

Qc1:
My Oga, I'm thinking of these kitchens set up o...the wahala is where one will get a competent & skills contractor! If its up to me, I may compromise but my I've promised my wife she will never regret staying in naija and the kitchen is my weapon to ensure that.Had I know, I would have shut up!

Finishing is definitely more expensive, remember that Nigeria produces nothing these days, so you are at the mercy of the current exchange rates.

For the interlocks, I have a policy of buying my own materials where possible, so this is what I did.


1 x 30 tonne of stone dust with chipping.
I have some left over cement, but i initially bought 100 to start with even though they requested for 150, and even the 100 self hasnt been fully used. So be careful here. The cement was also used for plastering fence, so hard to know exactly how many they used here.
I bought red pigment, for like 20k.
The guy gets paid N550 per SQM and he provides everything else (rammer, diesel, molding containers, nylon etc)
I will give him some free nylon as its the left over from a previous phase.
I also casted my stones and I want wet curing,whereby the stones are immersed in water where possible or water wetting, this makes the stones stronger. I went to some of the sites that the interlocking guys did, I saw dips and stones breaking, so I want to avoid this if possible. I also filled the compound, almost a year ago to ensure natural compaction so that when the stones are laid, the ground is hard and well compacted as this is what causes dips where there are movement or where the ramming/compacting isnt done well. I understand from some interlockers that when the compound is quickly sandfilled and only rammed in a haste, this can also happen.


I consulted our resident Engineer Abdulwastec on this before proceeding, so stones are already molded but I will only lay it after external painting.

danowena:
A lot of times, I have also heard that finishing is more expensive.

Please at what rate was your interlock molded and will be laid? I am scouting for someone to do mine.

In as much as I would not be surprised if Bosun did this, but I will urge us all to calm down till babalose presents us with more details.

FastShipping:
Are you saying you paid him to build carcass and roofing, yet he turned around to say he ran out of money?
If so, that is a strong allegation against Brabus. Brabus needs to state why he failed to deliver. This is terrible. It is one too many.

Na window I carry give Adeekiti, of which at the end with the nets, he messed up big time. He collected extra 70K and we resolved the issue.I since moved on with my life after he fixed the window nets. If he can get in touch or if he has more details about those issues, I for like to know because me who is the owner of the site isnt aware of any issues I have with any worker. So how Adeekiti who wasnt focusing on the way he fixed his nets would not concentrate on that, but will be concentrating on complaints, I do not know.

topsy23:
Yes we do electrical installation, I have checked Adeekiti thread he only mentioned some people that worked on maverick site had issues with him but am not among oooo. I knw the man that did the electrical installtions and I do go there to check his work then during piping and wiring stages. I and maverick are friends and no issue between us

Thanks

When I was first told that finishing cost more than carcass, at first I didnt doubt it, but i thought with careful spending and no middleman one can make some savings. True, to some extent, but let no one deceive you. Finishing is the Koko. And then with this my budget, one FAKE ENGINEER for NL is telling me that If I do not give him contract to supply the entire finishing materials and labour to do, he cannot answer a question i asked. Some people are just BAD !

The cost of my tiling alone is definitely more than the cost of roofing, and this is NZ stone coated roofing. And that is just tiling alone.
I was lucky/unlucky to have bought my electric cables back in October, when I look at the cost today, I say to myself Ohh dear me, and you never even talk of Pop or doors or electrical fittings oo.

God help us, the end is very close now as the interlock molding is all done. I would love to write a book about the last year or so, and I am sure it will help a lot of people.

@Brag3, I do not like looking at the total, I know that feeling.

brag3:
Oga QC1.
You made me laugh with your post.
10m for finishing in Nigeria? I go laugh tire.
I was talking with my guys on here and I jokingly said after roof stage say na 10m kill the rest. Little did i know that I was fooling myself.
When you imagine having to tile everywhere with even cheap chinese stuff and you still spend over 3m on that then we no get choice.
I dread looking at my spreadsheet but lets say if its less than 20m I will be happy.

Finishing is a killer and I never even finish o. Interlocking happening now then paint go follow and you know that there is always one wahala or the other.

Whoever said property market in Nigeria is cheap needs to show me the book so i can learn where I went wrong

Forcing you to take a side like as if they pointed a gun behind the back if your head to take a side. Like I said, its not you that got into Bosuns head to pay the money he's paid so far. He knew what was coming which will still come and so much goes on behind the scenes.

What most sensible people do is read from 2 sides, and use thier own initiative to dignify a response. The problem is that psychopaths do not do that.

Who supports this ?

* Defrauding clients during a construction arrangement
* Planting charms on a clients site
* Stealing clients materials
* Constantly lying
* Engaging workers, not paying them despite charging the client
* Engaging suppliers, not paying them despite charging the client
* Supplying and aiding the provision of forged government documents
* Reveals clients confidential material on a public forum
* Delivering substandard quality of work
* Collecting payment for work that was/hasn't been delivered.


And then shows off his own house to say that this is what the Chaeteau has, and clients sites dont have. And you support that Excuseme/Lastpage ?

You seriously need to check your conscience and need a brain reset !


NB: The thread will never stop because thesame right that Bosun has to post his internet jamboree pictures or his building whereever, so does other members of the public which also include some of his ex clients have to post whatever they feel is right, just because you do not like it does not give you the right to tell them to shup up, [size=18pt]its either you yourself, PUT UP OR SHUT UP. SIMPLE ![/size]

Excuzeme:
Alhaji M,
I salute your maturity.
I am pained that you are forced to make the post above, even though you have restrained yourself from getting directly involved in recent past.
I know about your efforts in the past, even offline (I hope you remember that you are the one who asked that the matter be taken offline when l became involved.
It is all documented from page 124/127 and below is my own comment made on January 30, 2016).


https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/124#42478911

What else can anyone do to satisfy another person, on a matter that you are just trying to HELP?

If you read further between pages 124 and 127 you will see further contributions from me and many other good people, until Brabus decided to agree to our requests to start paying him. For that alone, he has my own respect because he listened to other people's request.

I have come to notice that these group of people have this habit of FORCING you to take a side.
They also have a method of FORCING you to OPENLY pit yourself against Brabus otherwise they would call you a Fraudster, say you are sharing money with Brabus, you are in cahoots with Brabus, until you capitulate. They did same to Agarawu, Lastpage, , Egun(when Brabus has not called his house a name), Excuzeme, many more people and now YOU.

They have pushed you to CAPITULATE and make your post above and l am sad at that sort of bullying someone into submission.

They use all sorts of tricks like:

-You are afraid of Brabus (when we all know that they are the ones afraid of Brabus otherwise they would have done something about it or stop dealing with him financially).
-You did not rebuke him (when we all know the efforts you have made in correcting him in the past)
-Attach you to another Moniker or call you last page or Brabus himself, to cause confusion (when we know who this people are, from their history of posts
-You did not ban him (when they know that you dont have that authority, since you are no longer a Mod here)
-They insult you until you submit
All these methods are just a strategy to pressurise you into submission, to do what you dont want to do, and it seems they have succeeded once again.
But these COLONY of LEPERS and Scallywags are just wasting their time with me, when it comes to online intimidation.

But then, as an elder, maybe you dont mind.
Now that they have forced you to take a position and make a public show of it, (even though we all know your position from time), they have come back to accept you and play to the gallery with you.
Its so sad that you need to state in capitals that you are not afraid of Brabus, just to satisfy them. .

One thing l know is that we will all reap what we sow.
Those who sow EVIL will reap it one way or another and when they do, they would blame others for it not knowing that it is KARMA!

I think the next thing is that they would force you to change the name/title of the thread or tell Brabus that he cant post here anymore, even when you cant enforce that.
But what they cant do is force @Excuzeme to dance to their tune.

Edit: Destruction11, l just saw you walking out of the thread now, after making my post.
Now they will be happy and thinking 'we drove him out'.
Anyway, its your right.

You see yourself !

You went to topsy - he came out to tell you that we are very good friends, he worked at my site and no issues.
You dug up another post - Now let me tell you this. He did my windows, and so what, we agreed a price, he took a photo of a piece of paper and said that price including some thousands of Naira more was what we agreed, I sent him a screenshot of what we agreed. He took a stupid shortcut as a way out, and I told him i would not accept it (who fixes nets on the outside of a window permanently so the nets blocks the glass, apart from Excuseme/Lastpage ?). In the end, we settled it and both have moved on after I paid him extra in the end and he went to my site to correct the mess he did. Misunderstandings happen, but in the end he apologized and I moved on. Whats the big deal ?

Now with you, this is what you do. You try to dig up non issues and try to turn it to issues, you were a brabus supporter because the evil and hate inside of you thinks, that is a way to get at those that Brabus have defrauded to make your point and fester the evil/hate which lives right in your heart.

Let me tell you this, you are a nobody, no do not command any respect here and you are a man or woman destined for the pits if you do not change your ways.

Let me ask you something Excuseme/LastPAge. [size=18pt]Are you a psychopath or a Sociopath ? [/size]

I think the answer is yes or you are on your way to becoming one, why are you trying so hard to stir up shyt that isnt just there ?

Do something better with your life, have friends, read books and pray to God to lift you up in life. Don't come here and exhibit psychopathic/Sociopathic behavior.

You are asking another professional if he's COREN or whatever, what is your ancestors business with that, you dont have anything or work to give him and a jobless baggar like yourself is looking for another issue to stir up, [size=14pt]just because he said we are good friends and no issues with our business relationship, you are looking for a way to attack him or discredit him[/size]. Look here, you have bigger problems in life, and NL is not the solution. [size=18pt]Go and pick on Brabus, leave Topsy23 alone [/size]! abi because you have gone into bed with him due to burglary that baba Shaki can knock up for you, you are unable to criticize him.

Excuzeme:
I read on this Nairaland that you worked on Maverick's thread and there were issues back then that required some Elders to intervene and that is why l quoted the poster.
The Aluminium man who did his windows also mentioned you among others, in that quote l made above.
I know you have settled and some of the posts have been edited to reflect that, that is a nice thing as a Contractor cannot afford to take a strong point on issues, in public.

Read it here if still unsure: https://www.nairaland.com/2423617/professional-touch-aluminium-fabrication-windowsdoorsrails/30



As to Electrician/Engineer/Electrical Engineer, it is all Titles.

But you know this is online, unless you say so, l cannot assume you are a qualified, COREN-Registered Electrical Engineer.
Some people here have claimed Building Engineer when they are no where trained and qualified as such or should we now be asking to see people's Graduation Certificate and COREN registration number?
But l know that you do the job of an Electrician (by definition), as l have seen that in your posts.