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Agbegbaorogboye:
Growing up as a child and attending Sunday school, the idea of Jesus I got from Sunday school teachings was of a lowly and poor man who left his glory in heaven to come and die for my sins.
But it seems pentecostal teachings are now at variance with this especially with some preachers saying Jesus hates poverty and poverty is a sin.

So fellow Christians in the house, please I need your thoughts on this.

Based on your bible knowledge, was Jesus poor?

YES!
Jesus was poor and he taught his closest confidants to give away whatever they had to remain focused if they want to be with him in heaven:

“Stop storing up for yourselves treasures on the earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal. Rather, store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Matthew 6:19-21

These set of humans are no longer going to inherit the earth as God His promised righteous servants of old {Psalms 37:29} rather they will be transformed into angels having no gender {Luke 20:34-36} that's why they must be born again {John 3:3-5} all their earthly possessions they must forgo to support others in doing the work Jesus assigned to them all! Luke 18:22

So Jesus himself set the pace by having no possession of his own on planet earth:

“Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” Matthew 8:20

His Apostles (supposed corulers with him in his Kingdom) followed the same pattern:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

So if any religionist is accumulating assets on planet earth surely he is not part of those going to rule with Christ in heaven because such a person has nothing stored up for him or her there! Matthew 6:19-21

May you have peace!

MightySparrow:
You abuse Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo even talked against Babalola in his grave. Haba! Which Jesus sent you to be doing that?

Saying they are false prophets is not an abuse but a statement of fact, going by what Jesus Christ said regarding FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} which of these people has gathered followers that is doing well like what this man said:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

That's what makes them FALSE!

achorladey:
The bold is correct and he wants to draw attention to his religious organization likewise like a marketer does.

Is that why you've been following me up and down the forum?
So my jazz for attention catch you shey?

Lucifyre:
You intelligent?! 🤣 🤡

Atheist!

achorladey:
That your madness and insanities peddling brains go learn last last
Violence in your madness and insanities peddling brains is not limited to your father beating your mother to death whether as a Muslim or one of Jehovah's Witnesses even if your father does so it is part of it.
What I am saying is a man that killed his wife in the community of Jehovah's Witnesses as one of Jehovah's Witnesses is an evidence that your dad is a member of a religious organization where Jehovah’s witnesses kill Jehovah’s witnesses just like you want me to believe that Catholics kills Catholics while at war and they cannot be true Christians

The churches in your community always preach that whenever their members see Jehovah’s witnesses they should not allow them go alive.

Those three questions only requires a YES or NO response not story telling nah?

Maximus692:
Did your own dad beat your mum to death? YES or NO
Are you saying that since a violent man killed his wife that makes your own dad a killer because they both belong to the same organization? YES or NO
Does the organization promote violence in any form? YES or NO

achorladey:
What is my problem with inside or outside? Will it change the fact that members of Jehovah's Witness are child abusers?

YES!

It's impossible for such to be happening only within their midst you can't tell me that they are never attracted to other children except those in their group nah!

There are child molesters and terrorists in Islam the fact is confirmed when they are crossing boundaries but in this case you are saying something that you have never seen before in your neighborhood.

Remember what APOSTOSIS said:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

Highlighted in blue shows that this man (even though may not be a believer) is active in line with what is written in the scriptures:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21

achorladey:
The epistle is to make your madness and insanities peddling brains understand that violence in the community of Jehovah's Witnesses is not done by one man alone.

Did your own dad beat your mum to death?
Are you saying that since a violent man killed his wife that makes your own dad a killer because they both belong to the same organization?
Does the organization promote violence in any form?

achorladey:
Members of Jehovah's Witnesses have been caught abusing children in their midst, tried and convicted several times in court.

Has any JW ever been caught abusing a child outside the organization?

achorladey:
So says the madness and insanities peddling brains. From the brains of a person whose intelligence and wisdom on so many topics goes into the drainage all the time. First remove the madness and insanities peddling in your brains laced with lies and manipulations Tell me one of the twisted thing I said about your so called peaceful religious organization. Just one is enough. I don't need two just one.
The madness and insanities peddling brains started with one man. Lies and manipulations number 1. He added more madness and insanities peddling by saying......couldn't get any support. That's the wisdom of your madness and insanities peddling brains I am highlighting My point your madness and insanities peddling brains knows is the very same thing that makes others not peaceful are found in your midst in their numbers. Now you want to make it insignificant to remove your so called religious organization while you keep pointing fingers at others Your madness and insanities peddling brains will need that reset than mine because shunning it is not the main problem here in this discussion but the fact that your so called Jehovah’s organization that you say is peaceful is doing the very same thing you use to identify those you class as Satan's organisation
Use your madness and insanities peddling brains to reason the above.
Here is the Romans again your GODS of men housed in USA manipulated and packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains as NEUTRALITY stands
for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath* against the one practicing what is bad.
Open your eyes and see the AVENGER.
The madness and insanities peddling brains turned it to one man vs a group. In your madness and insanities peddling brains it is only one man that had been caught killing their wives in the community of Jehovah's Witnesses or perpetrating violence against their wives or husbands.
The reason you need the brain reset more. Your wisdom no grade enough ;

What has this epistle got to do with using the WRONGDOING of one man to judge an organization that condemns his violent attitude?

Please make it make sense!

Lucifyre:
🤣 cap from now till eternity, nothing changes fact.

Facts but you have never seen such in real life, shey?

MightySparrow:
Start reading without bias from chapter 1: 1. Your position as an organization doesn't hold water. Read objectively without the spectacle of your GB.
Romans is so clear about most Bible doctrines. Taking one verse and building doctrine around it doesn't make sense.

OK if you have read from the beginning can you explain what Paul meant in verse 7?

MightySparrow:
How does Roman 6:7 fit into the equation if you start reading Paul's argument from chapter 1 to the end?
Delusional interpretation.

Romans 6:7 reads:


Anyone who has died has been set free from sin.


WHY?

Because death is the wages of sin! Romans 6:23; Genesis 2:17; 3:19

Or do you think Satan is the one telling us the truth about the condition of the dead? Genesis 3:4

Jokerman:
Lol... There is a place of peace too.
God does not lie.

This is what God said before Jesus came in to the world:


They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind. ‭Jeremiah 7:31 NIV‬


Burning people alive has not entered the mind of God rather what He said in the beginning is that death ends Adam's rebellion {Genesis 2:17; 3:19} perhaps you believe God lied to Adam about death and Satan is the one saying the truth! Genesis 3:4

Jokerman:
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Why not take this message seriously??

Remember we humans are created in God's image, and since God is eternal, that means the human spirit and consciousness cannot die, and since spirit cannot die, all rebellious spirits will receive eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire

God cannot change His word, neither will He lie. For He is not a man and not a respecter of persons.

Why not escape now, and come to the saving grace of Jesus Christ who has made it possible with His Blood and with His word.

Humans are specially, fearfully and wonderfully made by God. Don't be rebellious against your father like Satan and the demons.

Jesus spoke in parables, no spirit survives death, at death man has been discharged of all his wrongdoings! Romans 6:7

What is the meaning of that word:

"WITNESS"

UncleKoboko:
Good.
Today is the day some people think:
God, the creator of the universe, multiverse and beyond, CAME TO THIS TINY SPEC OF DUST TO DIE!
BE KILLED BY HUMANS THAT HE IS NOT HAPPY WITH...
So he needs to make them commit more sins (murder), and he will be committing suicide...
All in the name of him needing the blood of an innocent man (himself), for his own atonement and in order to forgive the sinners...
YOU SEE HOW THIS MAKES SENSE....
People are dàft sha

You misconstrued it all but it's OK since those claiming believers in Christ are not even real disciples of Christ.

achorladey:
The bold to him don't count. It is those that carry weapons and fight in wars that are not peaceful. That's why he will never respond when asked those Jehovah's Witnesses that don't go to war but beat their wives up till death are they peaceful?

This is where you need wisdom!

How can you grasp the significance of a peaceful organization when your mind is twisted?

OK you think the action of one man who couldn't get any support is enough to disqualify the organization he associate with shey?

Ọmọ you need a brain reset because no JW will support such act rather they will all shun it but your people on the other side will wilfully carry weapons in support of someone seeking vengeance to kill other people that's the difference between one man's action and that of a group.

The one and only true religion!

Lucifyre:
What else do you want me to say, you've already bleeped up and contradicted urself making it clear it's nonsense. Btw are the happy people amongst the rapists amd molesters?! 😅 Of course they'd be happy when they have an Epstein like cult to sheild em so they can freely abuse. There's a reason countries are beginning to place bans on your cult.

Be honest with yourself at least for once even though you're a sadist.
How does it make sense to you if all the accusations you're leveling against one group has never been found outside the group?
The activities of religious terrorists has affected people in other religions so we can all say it confidently that they are guilty of terrorism but when you are here accusing a religious group of something that has never affected you or anyone you know in person or people of other religions ọmọ that's shows how dishonest you are!

Lucifyre:
Very dishonest person.

Funny atheist!
How can you know true honesty when you despise it?

God2man2again:
That's when God used the match maker.

That's the import of God's true servants with the holy Spirit active in them they'll be the best matchmakers.

Terrorists everywhere all in the name of God.
https://www.nairaland.com/8401302/blood-flowing-like-water-dr
https://www.nairaland.com/8401581/perpetrators-incessant-killings-nigeria-must
https://www.nairaland.com/4283604/fulani-herdsmen-apostle-johnson-suleman
https://www.nairaland.com/4288017/killings-nigeria-paul-enenche-speaks

But JWs would make this planet a haven where peace reigns!

Unah go cry tire!

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.

There is no single religion on this planet that comes close to this wonderful performance by God's people!

God2man2again:
I partially agree with you but the match maker is not God to know everything about the person thought is good enough. That's why it is important to commit your ways into the hands of the Lord even though the match maker has finished the work.

I prefer matchmaking than putting what God has ordained in the beginning back into God's hands.

Lucifyre:
Talked so much nonsense they banned your account? 🤣

You don't have anything tangible to say it's obvious you're just a bitter soul that's seeking ways to terrorise happy people.
Go to get a life!

Lucifyre:
🤣 In other words you're talking undemonstrable subjective nonsense that can't be truth, do you know what objective means?! It's like you reason half a step forward and five steps back, so even when you end up contradicting urself, your few working braincells can't process it. Kind of interesting to watch. Besides since when did peace become synonymous with sexual abuse, pedophilia, molestation, assault theand shunning? And since when do people who peacefully coexist shield abusers and silence the abused. If anything that's a cult full of piss, stinking concentrated old piss. I should instead be asking when you guys are going to Guyana to drink the cool aid, there might be actually be peace then.

No matter what you think, say or do it's up to you just present the worshipers of your own god your insults and abusive speeches doesn't change the fact that you don't believe in any god.

How many sexual abuse, pedophilia, molestation, assault cases have you found among Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighborhood?

God2man2again:
The occupation of arranging marriage for others, getting unmarried people together with the main purpose that they will eventually get married.
In the case of Adam and eve, Adam was not looking for Eve, it was God that said that it is not good for a man to be alone.
Was Adam looking for Eve to marry?

You got the definition of matchmaking but you missed the practical application of it.
Matchmaking has nothing to do with you looking for a wife but others chose for you even when that's not your choice or you aren't even thinking about it.
So when talking about matchmaking it's a person the matchmaker thought is good enough for you not what you are thinking.

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lawless lost false jw mad max

u r unable of course, to stop making up lies in your head like the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Madman so it's only me you should be following up and down the forum shey?

God2man2again:
Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
How is this match making Sir?

What do you mean by matchmaking?
Please define matchmaking!

johnw47:
lost falsejw mad max
you mean lawless peope of a god:
forum rule 19. Don't use alternate accounts to access Nairaland after being banned. If you do, make sure we don't find out.

Useless church boy.
If i do and they find out what happens?
Your obsession after my posts shows you are lifeless without me!

Peaceful and happy people of God.